On 1/17/11 8:57 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:27:09 -0800, wrote:

Yeah, just what we need... another for-profit company (like
Haliburton) looking out for our "best interest."

You are on another one of your anti-capitalism rants again. Did you
get laid off from a large corporation at the same time as Harry?


What are you smoking, Wayne?

On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 21:46:10 -0500, Harryk
wrote:

On 1/17/11 8:57 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:27:09 -0800, wrote:

Yeah, just what we need... another for-profit company (like
Haliburton) looking out for our "best interest."

You are on another one of your anti-capitalism rants again. Did you
get laid off from a large corporation at the same time as Harry?


What are you smoking, Wayne?

Are you telling us that you actually had a successful career in
corporate America that you've never told us about? Not likely in my
opinion. The vitriol of you and your proxy spokespersons says it all.

On 1/17/11 11:13 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 21:46:10 -0500,
wrote:

On 1/17/11 8:57 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:27:09 -0800, wrote:

Yeah, just what we need... another for-profit company (like
Haliburton) looking out for our "best interest."

You are on another one of your anti-capitalism rants again. Did you
get laid off from a large corporation at the same time as Harry?


What are you smoking, Wayne?

Are you telling us that you actually had a successful career in
corporate America that you've never told us about? Not likely in my
opinion. The vitriol of you and your proxy spokespersons says it all.




Early in my professional working career, I was a successful employee of
a major American newspaper, the government, the largest wire service, a
labor union and two advertising/PR agencies. In each case in those days,
I left for better opportunities. What little respect I had for the
"corporate world" dissipated during the 1980s.

In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says...

On 1/17/11 11:13 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 21:46:10 -0500,
wrote:

On 1/17/11 8:57 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:27:09 -0800, wrote:

Yeah, just what we need... another for-profit company (like
Haliburton) looking out for our "best interest."

You are on another one of your anti-capitalism rants again. Did you
get laid off from a large corporation at the same time as Harry?


What are you smoking, Wayne?

Are you telling us that you actually had a successful career in
corporate America that you've never told us about? Not likely in my
opinion. The vitriol of you and your proxy spokespersons says it all.




Early in my professional working career, I was a successful employee of
a major American newspaper, the government, the largest wire service, a
labor union and two advertising/PR agencies. In each case in those days,
I left for better opportunities. What little respect I had for the
"corporate world" dissipated during the 1980s.

I found out that there was this thing called pay for performance in the
80's. You got paid for your performance. If you performed well you were
paid well. If you were a lay about and didn't do your job you were
fired. My pay increased so much during the 80's it was amazing.

I can see why you were disillusioned Harry.

On 1/18/11 8:41 AM, BAR wrote:
In articlemMednZP5eLhY6qjQnZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...

On 1/17/11 11:13 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 21:46:10 -0500,
wrote:

On 1/17/11 8:57 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:27:09 -0800, wrote:

Yeah, just what we need... another for-profit company (like
Haliburton) looking out for our "best interest."

You are on another one of your anti-capitalism rants again. Did you
get laid off from a large corporation at the same time as Harry?


What are you smoking, Wayne?

Are you telling us that you actually had a successful career in
corporate America that you've never told us about? Not likely in my
opinion. The vitriol of you and your proxy spokespersons says it all.




Early in my professional working career, I was a successful employee of
a major American newspaper, the government, the largest wire service, a
labor union and two advertising/PR agencies. In each case in those days,
I left for better opportunities. What little respect I had for the
"corporate world" dissipated during the 1980s.

I found out that there was this thing called pay for performance in the
80's. You got paid for your performance. If you performed well you were
paid well. If you were a lay about and didn't do your job you were
fired. My pay increased so much during the 80's it was amazing.

I can see why you were disillusioned Harry.



My "pay" increased from the $50,000 salary I was making in 1976 as a
senior account exec at a DC 4A's advertising agency to $155,000 in fees
and commissions the next year as an independent marketing consultant. Of
course, I had to pay both sides of Social Security taxes that year.

I was disillusioned by the "corporate world" in the 1980s when greed
became the only driving force behind many corporations. By then, I was
10 years off of steeenking corporate payrolls.

In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says...

On 1/18/11 8:41 AM, BAR wrote:
In articlemMednZP5eLhY6qjQnZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...

On 1/17/11 11:13 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 21:46:10 -0500,
wrote:

On 1/17/11 8:57 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:27:09 -0800, wrote:

Yeah, just what we need... another for-profit company (like
Haliburton) looking out for our "best interest."

You are on another one of your anti-capitalism rants again. Did you
get laid off from a large corporation at the same time as Harry?


What are you smoking, Wayne?

Are you telling us that you actually had a successful career in
corporate America that you've never told us about? Not likely in my
opinion. The vitriol of you and your proxy spokespersons says it all.




Early in my professional working career, I was a successful employee of
a major American newspaper, the government, the largest wire service, a
labor union and two advertising/PR agencies. In each case in those days,
I left for better opportunities. What little respect I had for the
"corporate world" dissipated during the 1980s.

I found out that there was this thing called pay for performance in the
80's. You got paid for your performance. If you performed well you were
paid well. If you were a lay about and didn't do your job you were
fired. My pay increased so much during the 80's it was amazing.

I can see why you were disillusioned Harry.



My "pay" increased from the $50,000 salary I was making in 1976 as a
senior account exec at a DC 4A's advertising agency to $155,000 in fees
and commissions the next year as an independent marketing consultant. Of
course, I had to pay both sides of Social Security taxes that year.

I was disillusioned by the "corporate world" in the 1980s when greed
became the only driving force behind many corporations. By then, I was
10 years off of steeenking corporate payrolls.

Yeah, sure, more Harrylies.

In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
My "pay" increased from the $50,000 salary I was making in 1976 as a
senior account exec at a DC 4A's advertising agency to $155,000 in fees
and commissions the next year as an independent marketing consultant. Of
course, I had to pay both sides of Social Security taxes that year.

I was disillusioned by the "corporate world" in the 1980s when greed
became the only driving force behind many corporations. By then, I was
10 years off of steeenking corporate payrolls.

Show us your SS statement, the one they send to you that shows your what
you will get when you retire. It has a list of your maximum social
security income for all of the years you have worked.

On 1/19/11 8:01 AM, BAR wrote:
In , payer3389
@mypacks.net says...
My "pay" increased from the $50,000 salary I was making in 1976 as a
senior account exec at a DC 4A's advertising agency to $155,000 in fees
and commissions the next year as an independent marketing consultant. Of
course, I had to pay both sides of Social Security taxes that year.

I was disillusioned by the "corporate world" in the 1980s when greed
became the only driving force behind many corporations. By then, I was
10 years off of steeenking corporate payrolls.

Show us your SS statement, the one they send to you that shows your what
you will get when you retire. It has a list of your maximum social
security income for all of the years you have worked.




Sure, Bertie, I'm going to produce documents for your reading pleasure,
right after I put you in my will.

I will tell you I've had about 35 years paying the maximum FICA
contribution. If memory still serves me, I could have been receiving a
SS check last year of $2300 and change.

Hey, it's not my fault you are an underachiever, and I earned more in
the late 1970's than you earn today. Had you gone to college instead of
joining the marines, you might be doing better, too.

"BAR" wrote in message . ..
In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says...

On 1/17/11 11:13 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 21:46:10 -0500,
wrote:

On 1/17/11 8:57 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:27:09 -0800, wrote:

Yeah, just what we need... another for-profit company (like
Haliburton) looking out for our "best interest."

You are on another one of your anti-capitalism rants again. Did you
get laid off from a large corporation at the same time as Harry?


What are you smoking, Wayne?

Are you telling us that you actually had a successful career in
corporate America that you've never told us about? Not likely in my
opinion. The vitriol of you and your proxy spokespersons says it all.




Early in my professional working career, I was a successful employee of
a major American newspaper, the government, the largest wire service, a
labor union and two advertising/PR agencies. In each case in those days,
I left for better opportunities. What little respect I had for the
"corporate world" dissipated during the 1980s.

I found out that there was this thing called pay for performance in the
80's. You got paid for your performance. If you performed well you were
paid well. If you were a lay about and didn't do your job you were
fired. My pay increased so much during the 80's it was amazing.

I can see why you were disillusioned Harry.



Sucker. You could have joined a union and received huge pay and benefit increases for nothing more than time in service. No work required. and as a side benefit you would have contributed to breaking the back of your corporate employer.

--
Ziggy®