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On 1/5/11 10:13 AM, John H wrote:
On Tue, 04 Jan 2011 18:56:04 -0500, wrote: On 1/4/11 6:51 PM, John H wrote: On Tue, 04 Jan 2011 12:49:02 -0500, wrote: O wrote: In truth, nothing is permanent in life - including life itself, but the definition has to exist so that some order can be made out of hiring, firing, replacing labor or workers. A federal Civil Service worker is about as hard to get rid of as a tenured professor. There has not been a real RIF (layoff) since the 50s. There have been some reorganizations that eliminated jobs but the workers simply moved across the street, or in some cases just stayed where they were and GSA changed the sign on the building. (The Carter administration was probably the best example of that). A GSA guy I knew said they were thinking about using thumb screws to mount the signs because they changed so often. It is possible to fire a government worker for stealing or not showing up but if they are there every day, you can't fire them for incompetence or goofing off..They just get shuffled off to another agency if anything happens at all. Usually they just get put back in a corner and ignored. The AFGE is quite protective. They can manage to waste enough time of supervisors that it's probably cheaper to reassign the non-performer. Probably similar to the firing of worthless teachers. Where the union is strong, the non-performers are in luck. The public (and their kids) suffer. Oooooh...I just love it when righties do their best to maintain a non-confrontational atmospherein rec.boats. Me, I'll just...watch. It's January, so I'll respond. No one said anything confrontational, except you. I've had the experiences described above. As far as starting things, you just made a nice attempt to do so. It's hard, but not impossible, to believe you don't see the "non-confrontational" aspects of your union-bashing post. |
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