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A new Gallup poll, released Dec. 17, reveals that 40 percent of
Americans still believe that humans were created by God **within the last 10,000 years.** This number is slightly down from a previous high of 47 percent in 1993 and 1999. Another 38 percent of respondents believe that humans have evolved from more basic organisms but with God playing a role in the process. A mere 16 percent of respondents subscribed to the belief of "secular evolution": that humans have evolved with no divine guidance. However, this number has nearly doubled from nine percent of respondents in a poll from 1982. The poll also revealed that beliefs in creationism and evolution are strongly related to levels of education attained. When results are narrowed to those with college degrees, only 37 percent of respondents maintain beliefs in creationism. Meanwhile, the belief in evolution without the aid of God rises to 21 percent. With regards to political affiliation, a majority of Republicans (52 percent) subscribe to creationist beliefs. This is compared to only 34 percent among Democrats and Independents. Views on human origins vary based on church attendance. Of those who attend church on a weekly basis, 60 percent believe in creationism while a mere 2 percent subscribe to "secular evolution". These numbers are flipped among those who rarely or never attend religious services. In this group, only 24 percent believe in creationism while 39 percent believe in evolution without divine guidance. This represents the only subset of data reported where "secular evolution" beats out creationism. - - - "...within the last 10,000 years..." What a crock. |
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On 12/20/2010 4:00 PM, Harryk wrote:
A new Gallup poll, released Dec. 17, reveals that 40 percent of Americans still believe that humans were created by God **within the last 10,000 years.** This number is slightly down from a previous high of 47 percent in 1993 and 1999. Another 38 percent of respondents believe that humans have evolved from more basic organisms but with God playing a role in the process. A mere 16 percent of respondents subscribed to the belief of "secular evolution": that humans have evolved with no divine guidance. However, this number has nearly doubled from nine percent of respondents in a poll from 1982. The poll also revealed that beliefs in creationism and evolution are strongly related to levels of education attained. When results are narrowed to those with college degrees, only 37 percent of respondents maintain beliefs in creationism. Meanwhile, the belief in evolution without the aid of God rises to 21 percent. With regards to political affiliation, a majority of Republicans (52 percent) subscribe to creationist beliefs. This is compared to only 34 percent among Democrats and Independents. Views on human origins vary based on church attendance. Of those who attend church on a weekly basis, 60 percent believe in creationism while a mere 2 percent subscribe to "secular evolution". These numbers are flipped among those who rarely or never attend religious services. In this group, only 24 percent believe in creationism while 39 percent believe in evolution without divine guidance. This represents the only subset of data reported where "secular evolution" beats out creationism. - - - "...within the last 10,000 years..." What a crock. Everyone needs a little superstition in their lives. |
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Paul@BYC wrote:
On 12/20/2010 4:00 PM, Harryk wrote: A new Gallup poll, released Dec. 17, reveals that 40 percent of Americans still believe that humans were created by God **within the last 10,000 years.** This number is slightly down from a previous high of 47 percent in 1993 and 1999. Another 38 percent of respondents believe that humans have evolved from more basic organisms but with God playing a role in the process. A mere 16 percent of respondents subscribed to the belief of "secular evolution": that humans have evolved with no divine guidance. However, this number has nearly doubled from nine percent of respondents in a poll from 1982. The poll also revealed that beliefs in creationism and evolution are strongly related to levels of education attained. When results are narrowed to those with college degrees, only 37 percent of respondents maintain beliefs in creationism. Meanwhile, the belief in evolution without the aid of God rises to 21 percent. With regards to political affiliation, a majority of Republicans (52 percent) subscribe to creationist beliefs. This is compared to only 34 percent among Democrats and Independents. Views on human origins vary based on church attendance. Of those who attend church on a weekly basis, 60 percent believe in creationism while a mere 2 percent subscribe to "secular evolution". These numbers are flipped among those who rarely or never attend religious services. In this group, only 24 percent believe in creationism while 39 percent believe in evolution without divine guidance. This represents the only subset of data reported where "secular evolution" beats out creationism. - - - "...within the last 10,000 years..." What a crock. Everyone needs a little superstition in their lives. It's OT, bozo. |
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On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 16:00:21 -0500, Harryk
wrote: A new Gallup poll, released Dec. 17, reveals that 40 percent of Americans still believe that humans were created by God **within the last 10,000 years.** This number is slightly down from a previous high of 47 percent in 1993 and 1999. Another 38 percent of respondents believe that humans have evolved from more basic organisms but with God playing a role in the process. A mere 16 percent of respondents subscribed to the belief of "secular evolution": that humans have evolved with no divine guidance. However, this number has nearly doubled from nine percent of respondents in a poll from 1982. The poll also revealed that beliefs in creationism and evolution are strongly related to levels of education attained. When results are narrowed to those with college degrees, only 37 percent of respondents maintain beliefs in creationism. Meanwhile, the belief in evolution without the aid of God rises to 21 percent. With regards to political affiliation, a majority of Republicans (52 percent) subscribe to creationist beliefs. This is compared to only 34 percent among Democrats and Independents. Views on human origins vary based on church attendance. Of those who attend church on a weekly basis, 60 percent believe in creationism while a mere 2 percent subscribe to "secular evolution". These numbers are flipped among those who rarely or never attend religious services. In this group, only 24 percent believe in creationism while 39 percent believe in evolution without divine guidance. This represents the only subset of data reported where "secular evolution" beats out creationism. - - - "...within the last 10,000 years..." What a crock. An indicator of the distance travelled by our species since the dark ages. Really quite astonishing. Expect there are significant numbesr of countries wayr ahead of the US where distance from Taliban mentality is the measure. |
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On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 21:03:19 -0500, L G wrote:
Paul@BYC wrote: On 12/20/2010 4:00 PM, Harryk wrote: A new Gallup poll, released Dec. 17, reveals that 40 percent of Americans still believe that humans were created by God **within the last 10,000 years.** This number is slightly down from a previous high of 47 percent in 1993 and 1999. Another 38 percent of respondents believe that humans have evolved from more basic organisms but with God playing a role in the process. A mere 16 percent of respondents subscribed to the belief of "secular evolution": that humans have evolved with no divine guidance. However, this number has nearly doubled from nine percent of respondents in a poll from 1982. The poll also revealed that beliefs in creationism and evolution are strongly related to levels of education attained. When results are narrowed to those with college degrees, only 37 percent of respondents maintain beliefs in creationism. Meanwhile, the belief in evolution without the aid of God rises to 21 percent. With regards to political affiliation, a majority of Republicans (52 percent) subscribe to creationist beliefs. This is compared to only 34 percent among Democrats and Independents. Views on human origins vary based on church attendance. Of those who attend church on a weekly basis, 60 percent believe in creationism while a mere 2 percent subscribe to "secular evolution". These numbers are flipped among those who rarely or never attend religious services. In this group, only 24 percent believe in creationism while 39 percent believe in evolution without divine guidance. This represents the only subset of data reported where "secular evolution" beats out creationism. - - - "...within the last 10,000 years..." What a crock. Everyone needs a little superstition in their lives. It's OT, bozo. You putrid little bitch. You told me to **** off and die for telling Tim that his love note to Herring was OT and could be handled better via any number of methods. Time for you to head back to the bozo bin where you belong. Bye, bye, lard ass! |
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Here, if your'e gonna mock religion especially Christianity, and those
who may believe in God the Creator, and Creation theology,then make it worth your while... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah7bj...eature=related |
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On 12/21/10 6:58 AM, Tim wrote:
Here, if your'e gonna mock religion especially Christianity, and those who may believe in God the Creator, and Creation theology,then make it worth your while... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah7bj...eature=related If only there were something more than superstition, *especially* the beliefs that man was "created" about 10,000 years ago, or that every phrase in "the bible" should be taken literally. |
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On Dec 21, 6:14*am, Harryk wrote:
On 12/21/10 6:58 AM, Tim wrote: Here, if your'e gonna mock religion especially Christianity, and those who may believe in God the Creator, and Creation theology,then make it worth your while... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah7bj...eature=related If only there were something more than superstition, *especially* the beliefs that man was "created" about 10,000 years ago, or that every phrase in "the bible" should be taken literally. For an unbeliever whats it matter anyhow? |
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"Harryk" wrote in message m...
On 12/21/10 6:58 AM, Tim wrote: Here, if your'e gonna mock religion especially Christianity, and those who may believe in God the Creator, and Creation theology,then make it worth your while... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah7bj...eature=related If only there were something more than superstition, *especially* the beliefs that man was "created" about 10,000 years ago, or that every phrase in "the bible" should be taken literally. We understand that your family photo album is the only evidence you need to prove Darwin's theory. What would a tree climber like you know about religion. http://i52.tinypic.com/wa3nyf.jpg Are these your ancestors or offspring? -- Ziggy® |
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On 12/21/10 7:28 AM, Tim wrote:
On Dec 21, 6:14 am, wrote: On 12/21/10 6:58 AM, Tim wrote: Here, if your'e gonna mock religion especially Christianity, and those who may believe in God the Creator, and Creation theology,then make it worth your while... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah7bj...eature=related If only there were something more than superstition, *especially* the beliefs that man was "created" about 10,000 years ago, or that every phrase in "the bible" should be taken literally. For an unbeliever whats it matter anyhow? It matters because those who believe that myth try to force it and many other religious superstitions onto my society. I don't give a damn what the "creationists" believe, so long as they keep their beliefs in their churches, in their homes, in their religious schools. I don't want to see that crap (and it is crap) in public school textbooks or being "taught" in public schools, or being pushed onto society in general. My suspicion is that overly religious christians are made nervous by those who don't believe as they do and, like "the Borg," they feel a need to assimilate everyone. |
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On Dec 21, 6:34*am, Harryk wrote:
On 12/21/10 7:28 AM, Tim wrote: On Dec 21, 6:14 am, *wrote: On 12/21/10 6:58 AM, Tim wrote: Here, if your'e gonna mock religion especially Christianity, and those who may believe in God the Creator, and Creation theology,then make it worth your while... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah7bj...eature=related If only there were something more than superstition, *especially* the beliefs that man was "created" about 10,000 years ago, or that every phrase in "the bible" should be taken literally. For an unbeliever whats it matter anyhow? It matters because those who believe that myth try to force it and many other religious superstitions onto my society. And who started this thread and under what pretense? I don't give a damn what the "creationists" believe, so long as they keep their beliefs in their churches, in their homes, in their religious schools. I don't want to see that crap (and it is crap) in public school textbooks or being "taught" in public schools, or being pushed onto society in general. Sure you do. My suspicion is that overly religious christians are made nervous by those who don't believe as they do and, like "the Borg," they feel a need to assimilate everyone. I'm not bothered by your beliefs Harry, but something makes me feel like you're really bothered about mine... ?;^ ) |
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On 12/21/10 7:40 AM, Tim wrote:
On Dec 21, 6:34 am, wrote: On 12/21/10 7:28 AM, Tim wrote: On Dec 21, 6:14 am, wrote: On 12/21/10 6:58 AM, Tim wrote: Here, if your'e gonna mock religion especially Christianity, and those who may believe in God the Creator, and Creation theology,then make it worth your while... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah7bj...eature=related If only there were something more than superstition, *especially* the beliefs that man was "created" about 10,000 years ago, or that every phrase in "the bible" should be taken literally. For an unbeliever whats it matter anyhow? It matters because those who believe that myth try to force it and many other religious superstitions onto my society. And who started this thread and under what pretense? I don't give a damn what the "creationists" believe, so long as they keep their beliefs in their churches, in their homes, in their religious schools. I don't want to see that crap (and it is crap) in public school textbooks or being "taught" in public schools, or being pushed onto society in general. Sure you do. My suspicion is that overly religious christians are made nervous by those who don't believe as they do and, like "the Borg," they feel a need to assimilate everyone. I'm not bothered by your beliefs Harry, but something makes me feel like you're really bothered about mine... ?;^ ) Your religious beliefs are not my concern, *unless* you try to push them onto our non-religious, non-sectarian society and non-religious government. And by "you," I don't mean "you," necessarily. It's not my business if you believe in "creationism," so long as you make no efforts to push that belief into the public schools and other venues where anyone's religious beliefs have no place. I wouldn't raise a finger to try to talk you out of your religious beliefs. You are entitled to your beliefs, and you are entitled to share them with your co-religionists, your family, your church, and your church schools. Further, I appreciate your "christian efforts" to reach out to those in need and I applaud you and your religion when it does that. The more an individual does to help others who are in need, the closer he or she is to the teachings of your saviour. |
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On Dec 21, 6:50*am, Harryk wrote:
On 12/21/10 7:40 AM, Tim wrote: On Dec 21, 6:34 am, *wrote: On 12/21/10 7:28 AM, Tim wrote: On Dec 21, 6:14 am, * *wrote: On 12/21/10 6:58 AM, Tim wrote: Here, if your'e gonna mock religion especially Christianity, and those who may believe in God the Creator, and Creation theology,then make it worth your while... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah7bj...eature=related If only there were something more than superstition, *especially* the beliefs that man was "created" about 10,000 years ago, or that every phrase in "the bible" should be taken literally. For an unbeliever whats it matter anyhow? It matters because those who believe that myth try to force it and many other religious superstitions onto my society. And who started this thread and under what pretense? I don't give a damn what the "creationists" believe, so long as they keep their beliefs in their churches, in their homes, in their religious schools. I don't want to see that crap (and it is crap) in public school textbooks or being "taught" in public schools, or being pushed onto society in general. Sure you do. My suspicion is that overly religious christians are made nervous by those who don't believe as they do and, like "the Borg," they feel a need to assimilate everyone. I'm not bothered by your beliefs Harry, but something makes me feel like you're really bothered about mine... ?;^ ) Your religious beliefs are not my concern, *unless* you try to push them onto our non-religious, non-sectarian society and non-religious government. And by "you," I don't mean "you," necessarily. It's not my business if you believe in "creationism," so long as you make no efforts to push that belief into the public schools and other venues where anyone's religious beliefs have no place. I wouldn't raise a finger to try to talk you out of your religious beliefs. You are entitled to your beliefs, and you are entitled to share them with your co-religionists, your family, your church, and your church schools. Further, I appreciate your "christian efforts" to reach out to those in need and I applaud you and your religion when it does that. The more an individual does to help others who are in need, the closer he or she is to the teachings of your saviour. I appreciate the thoughts Harry, I really do, but I'm still questioning the OP's motive in starting this thread using the contents stated. Eh..... |
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"Harryk" wrote in message ...
On 12/21/10 7:28 AM, Tim wrote: On Dec 21, 6:14 am, wrote: On 12/21/10 6:58 AM, Tim wrote: Here, if your'e gonna mock religion especially Christianity, and those who may believe in God the Creator, and Creation theology,then make it worth your while... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah7bj...eature=related If only there were something more than superstition, *especially* the beliefs that man was "created" about 10,000 years ago, or that every phrase in "the bible" should be taken literally. For an unbeliever whats it matter anyhow? It matters because those who believe that myth try to force it and many other religious superstitions onto my society. I don't give a damn what the "creationists" believe, so long as they keep their beliefs in their churches, in their homes, in their religious schools. I don't want to see that crap (and it is crap) in public school textbooks or being "taught" in public schools, or being pushed onto society in general. My suspicion is that overly religious christians are made nervous by those who don't believe as they do and, like "the Borg," they feel a need to assimilate everyone. Isn't there someplace you can go to get away from all this "crap"? You know. Someplace where religion isn't part of every day life. Someplace where you won't keep bumping into religious celebrations and holidays.Someplace where history isn't taught. Someplace where you won't feel so intimidated. I do have one suggestion for you Krause. A place where you can find your utopia. Go to Hell. -- Ziggy® |
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On 12/20/2010 5:15 PM, Paul@BYC wrote:
On 12/20/2010 4:00 PM, Harryk wrote: A new Gallup poll, released Dec. 17, reveals that 40 percent of Americans still believe that humans were created by God **within the last 10,000 years.** This number is slightly down from a previous high of 47 percent in 1993 and 1999. Another 38 percent of respondents believe that humans have evolved from more basic organisms but with God playing a role in the process. A mere 16 percent of respondents subscribed to the belief of "secular evolution": that humans have evolved with no divine guidance. However, this number has nearly doubled from nine percent of respondents in a poll from 1982. The poll also revealed that beliefs in creationism and evolution are strongly related to levels of education attained. When results are narrowed to those with college degrees, only 37 percent of respondents maintain beliefs in creationism. Meanwhile, the belief in evolution without the aid of God rises to 21 percent. With regards to political affiliation, a majority of Republicans (52 percent) subscribe to creationist beliefs. This is compared to only 34 percent among Democrats and Independents. Views on human origins vary based on church attendance. Of those who attend church on a weekly basis, 60 percent believe in creationism while a mere 2 percent subscribe to "secular evolution". These numbers are flipped among those who rarely or never attend religious services. In this group, only 24 percent believe in creationism while 39 percent believe in evolution without divine guidance. This represents the only subset of data reported where "secular evolution" beats out creationism. - - - "...within the last 10,000 years..." What a crock. Everyone needs a little superstition in their lives. Paul, this is off topic for this newsgroup, not even marked OT. Moreover, it's inflammatory. Why are you, of all people, the first to respond? Hypocrite. |
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"Tim" wrote in message ...
On Dec 21, 6:50 am, Harryk wrote: On 12/21/10 7:40 AM, Tim wrote: On Dec 21, 6:34 am, wrote: On 12/21/10 7:28 AM, Tim wrote: On Dec 21, 6:14 am, wrote: On 12/21/10 6:58 AM, Tim wrote: Here, if your'e gonna mock religion especially Christianity, and those who may believe in God the Creator, and Creation theology,then make it worth your while... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah7bj...eature=related If only there were something more than superstition, *especially* the beliefs that man was "created" about 10,000 years ago, or that every phrase in "the bible" should be taken literally. For an unbeliever whats it matter anyhow? It matters because those who believe that myth try to force it and many other religious superstitions onto my society. And who started this thread and under what pretense? I don't give a damn what the "creationists" believe, so long as they keep their beliefs in their churches, in their homes, in their religious schools. I don't want to see that crap (and it is crap) in public school textbooks or being "taught" in public schools, or being pushed onto society in general. Sure you do. My suspicion is that overly religious christians are made nervous by those who don't believe as they do and, like "the Borg," they feel a need to assimilate everyone. I'm not bothered by your beliefs Harry, but something makes me feel like you're really bothered about mine... ?;^ ) Your religious beliefs are not my concern, *unless* you try to push them onto our non-religious, non-sectarian society and non-religious government. And by "you," I don't mean "you," necessarily. It's not my business if you believe in "creationism," so long as you make no efforts to push that belief into the public schools and other venues where anyone's religious beliefs have no place. I wouldn't raise a finger to try to talk you out of your religious beliefs. You are entitled to your beliefs, and you are entitled to share them with your co-religionists, your family, your church, and your church schools. Further, I appreciate your "christian efforts" to reach out to those in need and I applaud you and your religion when it does that. The more an individual does to help others who are in need, the closer he or she is to the teachings of your saviour. I appreciate the thoughts Harry, I really do, but I'm still questioning the OP's motive in starting this thread using the contents stated. Eh..... This thread was started by none other than Harry Krause with a quick follow up by his sock puppet "Paul". There is no OP involved. -- Ziggy® |
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On Dec 21, 7:50*am, Harryk wrote:
On 12/21/10 7:40 AM, Tim wrote: I'm not bothered by your beliefs Harry, but something makes me feel like you're really bothered about mine... ?;^ ) Your religious beliefs are not my concern, *unless* you try to push them onto our non-religious, non-sectarian society and non-religious government But your whole post is fantasy since we are not a "non-relitious, non- sectarian society", period! A recent poll of Americans said that while 30% of us want stores to say "Happy Holiday" a full 69% want retailers to say "Merry Christmas"... So my Christmas gift to you Harry is a chunk of truth, use it wisely, it's not often you get a chance when it comes to politics and religieon.. Anyway, the rest of your post was filled with the same kind of dishonest discourse so I snipped it, sorry... |
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says... In article 6de30094-6f35-4429-909f-d047f251d8c1 @z9g2000yqz.googlegroups.com, says... On Dec 21, 6:34*am, Harryk wrote: On 12/21/10 7:28 AM, Tim wrote: On Dec 21, 6:14 am, *wrote: On 12/21/10 6:58 AM, Tim wrote: Here, if your'e gonna mock religion especially Christianity, and those who may believe in God the Creator, and Creation theology,then make it worth your while... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah7bj...eature=related If only there were something more than superstition, *especially* the beliefs that man was "created" about 10,000 years ago, or that every phrase in "the bible" should be taken literally. For an unbeliever whats it matter anyhow? It matters because those who believe that myth try to force it and many other religious superstitions onto my society. And who started this thread and under what pretense? I don't give a damn what the "creationists" believe, so long as they keep their beliefs in their churches, in their homes, in their religious schools. I don't want to see that crap (and it is crap) in public school textbooks or being "taught" in public schools, or being pushed onto society in general. Sure you do. My suspicion is that overly religious christians are made nervous by those who don't believe as they do and, like "the Borg," they feel a need to assimilate everyone. I'm not bothered by your beliefs Harry, but something makes me feel like you're really bothered about mine... ?;^ ) Yeah, it's funny how even in this Christmas season, the intolerance of the left is so clear... Funny how the progressives are the ones who keep bringing it up here, shoving their beliefs down our throats and insulting, mocking, and trolling all at the same time.. Hey, keep it up and I'll super double snerk Snotty you. I have the power. It's my game. Pretty mature of me, eh? |
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"Tim" wrote in message ... On Dec 21, 6:50 am, Harryk wrote: On 12/21/10 7:40 AM, Tim wrote: On Dec 21, 6:34 am, wrote: On 12/21/10 7:28 AM, Tim wrote: On Dec 21, 6:14 am, wrote: On 12/21/10 6:58 AM, Tim wrote: Here, if your'e gonna mock religion especially Christianity, and those who may believe in God the Creator, and Creation theology,then make it worth your while... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah7bj...eature=related If only there were something more than superstition, *especially* the beliefs that man was "created" about 10,000 years ago, or that every phrase in "the bible" should be taken literally. For an unbeliever whats it matter anyhow? It matters because those who believe that myth try to force it and many other religious superstitions onto my society. And who started this thread and under what pretense? I don't give a damn what the "creationists" believe, so long as they keep their beliefs in their churches, in their homes, in their religious schools. I don't want to see that crap (and it is crap) in public school textbooks or being "taught" in public schools, or being pushed onto society in general. Sure you do. My suspicion is that overly religious christians are made nervous by those who don't believe as they do and, like "the Borg," they feel a need to assimilate everyone. I'm not bothered by your beliefs Harry, but something makes me feel like you're really bothered about mine... ?;^ ) Your religious beliefs are not my concern, *unless* you try to push them onto our non-religious, non-sectarian society and non-religious government. And by "you," I don't mean "you," necessarily. It's not my business if you believe in "creationism," so long as you make no efforts to push that belief into the public schools and other venues where anyone's religious beliefs have no place. I wouldn't raise a finger to try to talk you out of your religious beliefs. You are entitled to your beliefs, and you are entitled to share them with your co-religionists, your family, your church, and your church schools. Further, I appreciate your "christian efforts" to reach out to those in need and I applaud you and your religion when it does that. The more an individual does to help others who are in need, the closer he or she is to the teachings of your saviour. I appreciate the thoughts Harry, I really do, but I'm still questioning the OP's motive in starting this thread using the contents stated. Eh..... This thread was started by none other than Harry Krause with a quick follow up by his sock puppet "Paul". There is no OP involved. It's because I believe what I believe, and damn it, that means that every other person here should believe EXACTLY as I do. If you don't you are a dumfoch stupid schitt and I'll Snotty your brains out. |
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says... In article , says... "Tim" wrote in message ... On Dec 21, 6:50 am, Harryk wrote: On 12/21/10 7:40 AM, Tim wrote: On Dec 21, 6:34 am, wrote: On 12/21/10 7:28 AM, Tim wrote: On Dec 21, 6:14 am, wrote: On 12/21/10 6:58 AM, Tim wrote: Here, if your'e gonna mock religion especially Christianity, and those who may believe in God the Creator, and Creation theology,then make it worth your while... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah7bj...eature=related If only there were something more than superstition, *especially* the beliefs that man was "created" about 10,000 years ago, or that every phrase in "the bible" should be taken literally. For an unbeliever whats it matter anyhow? It matters because those who believe that myth try to force it and many other religious superstitions onto my society. And who started this thread and under what pretense? I don't give a damn what the "creationists" believe, so long as they keep their beliefs in their churches, in their homes, in their religious schools. I don't want to see that crap (and it is crap) in public school textbooks or being "taught" in public schools, or being pushed onto society in general. Sure you do. My suspicion is that overly religious christians are made nervous by those who don't believe as they do and, like "the Borg," they feel a need to assimilate everyone. I'm not bothered by your beliefs Harry, but something makes me feel like you're really bothered about mine... ?;^ ) Your religious beliefs are not my concern, *unless* you try to push them onto our non-religious, non-sectarian society and non-religious government. And by "you," I don't mean "you," necessarily. It's not my business if you believe in "creationism," so long as you make no efforts to push that belief into the public schools and other venues where anyone's religious beliefs have no place. I wouldn't raise a finger to try to talk you out of your religious beliefs. You are entitled to your beliefs, and you are entitled to share them with your co-religionists, your family, your church, and your church schools. Further, I appreciate your "christian efforts" to reach out to those in need and I applaud you and your religion when it does that. The more an individual does to help others who are in need, the closer he or she is to the teachings of your saviour. I appreciate the thoughts Harry, I really do, but I'm still questioning the OP's motive in starting this thread using the contents stated. Eh..... This thread was started by none other than Harry Krause with a quick follow up by his sock puppet "Paul". There is no OP involved. Just more of the hate speech we have to suffer here every day from the left leaning posters here... Hey, if you don't believe just exactly as I do, I'll call you names, insult you and give you a Snotty. Pretty mature and intelligent, eh? |
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On 12/21/10 10:36 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote:
On Dec 21, 7:50 am, wrote: On 12/21/10 7:40 AM, Tim wrote: I'm not bothered by your beliefs Harry, but something makes me feel like you're really bothered about mine... ?;^ ) Your religious beliefs are not my concern, *unless* you try to push them onto our non-religious, non-sectarian society and non-religious government But your whole post is fantasy since we are not a "non-relitious, non- sectarian society", period! A recent poll of Americans said that while 30% of us want stores to say "Happy Holiday" a full 69% want retailers to say "Merry Christmas"... So my Christmas gift to you Harry is a chunk of truth, use it wisely, it's not often you get a chance when it comes to politics and religieon.. Anyway, the rest of your post was filled with the same kind of dishonest discourse so I snipped it, sorry... Perhaps if you understood the term "non-religious, non-sectarian" in legal and governmental terms, you might figure out what is being discussed. Oh, and society? It means a bit more than what greetings people exchange. Christmas mostly is a retailers' holiday these days, not a day to reflect upon the birth and life of a man many believe to be their saviour. |
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On 12/21/10 8:26 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In articlee52f36d7-48d1-41cc-88b2- , says... On Dec 21, 6:50 am, wrote: On 12/21/10 7:40 AM, Tim wrote: On Dec 21, 6:34 am, wrote: On 12/21/10 7:28 AM, Tim wrote: On Dec 21, 6:14 am, wrote: On 12/21/10 6:58 AM, Tim wrote: Here, if your'e gonna mock religion especially Christianity, and those who may believe in God the Creator, and Creation theology,then make it worth your while... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah7bj...eature=related If only there were something more than superstition, *especially* the beliefs that man was "created" about 10,000 years ago, or that every phrase in "the bible" should be taken literally. For an unbeliever whats it matter anyhow? It matters because those who believe that myth try to force it and many other religious superstitions onto my society. And who started this thread and under what pretense? I don't give a damn what the "creationists" believe, so long as they keep their beliefs in their churches, in their homes, in their religious schools. I don't want to see that crap (and it is crap) in public school textbooks or being "taught" in public schools, or being pushed onto society in general. Sure you do. My suspicion is that overly religious christians are made nervous by those who don't believe as they do and, like "the Borg," they feel a need to assimilate everyone. I'm not bothered by your beliefs Harry, but something makes me feel like you're really bothered about mine... ?;^ ) Your religious beliefs are not my concern, *unless* you try to push them onto our non-religious, non-sectarian society and non-religious government. And by "you," I don't mean "you," necessarily. It's not my business if you believe in "creationism," so long as you make no efforts to push that belief into the public schools and other venues where anyone's religious beliefs have no place. I wouldn't raise a finger to try to talk you out of your religious beliefs. You are entitled to your beliefs, and you are entitled to share them with your co-religionists, your family, your church, and your church schools. Further, I appreciate your "christian efforts" to reach out to those in need and I applaud you and your religion when it does that. The more an individual does to help others who are in need, the closer he or she is to the teachings of your saviour. I appreciate the thoughts Harry, I really do, but I'm still questioning the OP's motive in starting this thread using the contents stated. Eh..... The Progressives here are a good look at progressives in general.. Not one could keep from name calling, not one can keep from the hate speech we have seen toward Christians here this week.. They are like the Taliban, they want to rule each and every aspect of our lives, even in our bedrooms... Ironic, ain't it?snerk You obviously do not know what "hate speech" is, other than the misinformed crap you spew in here. |
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says... On 12/21/10 8:26 AM, I am Tosk wrote: In articlee52f36d7-48d1-41cc-88b2- , says... On Dec 21, 6:50 am, wrote: On 12/21/10 7:40 AM, Tim wrote: On Dec 21, 6:34 am, wrote: On 12/21/10 7:28 AM, Tim wrote: On Dec 21, 6:14 am, wrote: On 12/21/10 6:58 AM, Tim wrote: Here, if your'e gonna mock religion especially Christianity, and those who may believe in God the Creator, and Creation theology,then make it worth your while... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah7bj...eature=related If only there were something more than superstition, *especially* the beliefs that man was "created" about 10,000 years ago, or that every phrase in "the bible" should be taken literally. For an unbeliever whats it matter anyhow? It matters because those who believe that myth try to force it and many other religious superstitions onto my society. And who started this thread and under what pretense? I don't give a damn what the "creationists" believe, so long as they keep their beliefs in their churches, in their homes, in their religious schools. I don't want to see that crap (and it is crap) in public school textbooks or being "taught" in public schools, or being pushed onto society in general. Sure you do. My suspicion is that overly religious christians are made nervous by those who don't believe as they do and, like "the Borg," they feel a need to assimilate everyone. I'm not bothered by your beliefs Harry, but something makes me feel like you're really bothered about mine... ?;^ ) Your religious beliefs are not my concern, *unless* you try to push them onto our non-religious, non-sectarian society and non-religious government. And by "you," I don't mean "you," necessarily. It's not my business if you believe in "creationism," so long as you make no efforts to push that belief into the public schools and other venues where anyone's religious beliefs have no place. I wouldn't raise a finger to try to talk you out of your religious beliefs. You are entitled to your beliefs, and you are entitled to share them with your co-religionists, your family, your church, and your church schools. Further, I appreciate your "christian efforts" to reach out to those in need and I applaud you and your religion when it does that. The more an individual does to help others who are in need, the closer he or she is to the teachings of your saviour. I appreciate the thoughts Harry, I really do, but I'm still questioning the OP's motive in starting this thread using the contents stated. Eh..... The Progressives here are a good look at progressives in general.. Not one could keep from name calling, not one can keep from the hate speech we have seen toward Christians here this week.. They are like the Taliban, they want to rule each and every aspect of our lives, even in our bedrooms... Ironic, ain't it?snerk You obviously do not know what "hate speech" is, other than the misinformed crap you spew in here. Another Snotty for the Harry ID spoofer. |
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On Tue, 21 Dec 2010 13:05:55 -0500, Harryk
wrote: On 12/21/10 10:36 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote: On Dec 21, 7:50 am, wrote: On 12/21/10 7:40 AM, Tim wrote: I'm not bothered by your beliefs Harry, but something makes me feel like you're really bothered about mine... ?;^ ) Your religious beliefs are not my concern, *unless* you try to push them onto our non-religious, non-sectarian society and non-religious government But your whole post is fantasy since we are not a "non-relitious, non- sectarian society", period! A recent poll of Americans said that while 30% of us want stores to say "Happy Holiday" a full 69% want retailers to say "Merry Christmas"... So my Christmas gift to you Harry is a chunk of truth, use it wisely, it's not often you get a chance when it comes to politics and religieon.. Anyway, the rest of your post was filled with the same kind of dishonest discourse so I snipped it, sorry... Perhaps if you understood the term "non-religious, non-sectarian" in legal and governmental terms, you might figure out what is being discussed. Oh, and society? It means a bit more than what greetings people exchange. Christmas mostly is a retailers' holiday these days, not a day to reflect upon the birth and life of a man many believe to be their saviour. The most Christian thing these shoppers might do in the flurry of consumption is to keep people working and our economy moving. |
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jps wrote:
On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 21:03:19 -0500, L wrote: Paul@BYC wrote: On 12/20/2010 4:00 PM, Harryk wrote: A new Gallup poll, released Dec. 17, reveals that 40 percent of Americans still believe that humans were created by God **within the last 10,000 years.** This number is slightly down from a previous high of 47 percent in 1993 and 1999. Another 38 percent of respondents believe that humans have evolved from more basic organisms but with God playing a role in the process. A mere 16 percent of respondents subscribed to the belief of "secular evolution": that humans have evolved with no divine guidance. However, this number has nearly doubled from nine percent of respondents in a poll from 1982. The poll also revealed that beliefs in creationism and evolution are strongly related to levels of education attained. When results are narrowed to those with college degrees, only 37 percent of respondents maintain beliefs in creationism. Meanwhile, the belief in evolution without the aid of God rises to 21 percent. With regards to political affiliation, a majority of Republicans (52 percent) subscribe to creationist beliefs. This is compared to only 34 percent among Democrats and Independents. Views on human origins vary based on church attendance. Of those who attend church on a weekly basis, 60 percent believe in creationism while a mere 2 percent subscribe to "secular evolution". These numbers are flipped among those who rarely or never attend religious services. In this group, only 24 percent believe in creationism while 39 percent believe in evolution without divine guidance. This represents the only subset of data reported where "secular evolution" beats out creationism. - - - "...within the last 10,000 years..." What a crock. Everyone needs a little superstition in their lives. It's OT, bozo. You putrid little bitch. You told me to **** off and die for telling Tim that his love note to Herring was OT and could be handled better via any number of methods. Time for you to head back to the bozo bin where you belong. Bye, bye, lard ass! Adios, asshole. |
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On 12/21/2010 4:15 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
Why are people that don't believe in God... .... So afraid of him? LOL! Atheists are afraid of your god like you are afraid of Zeus. |
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On Tue, 21 Dec 2010 23:12:39 -0800, shorty
wrote: On 12/21/2010 4:15 AM, I am Tosk wrote: Why are people that don't believe in God... .... So afraid of him? LOL! Atheists are afraid of your god like you are afraid of Zeus. Well said. |
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On 12/22/10 8:23 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In , lid says... On 12/21/2010 4:15 AM, I am Tosk wrote: Why are people that don't believe in God... .... So afraid of him? LOL! Atheists are afraid of your god like you are afraid of Zeus. Well then, how come I haven't spent the last three weeks bashing the faithful and Christians in particular? Oh, wait! That's because I am not intolerant and I am not trying to shove my beliefs down anybodys throat like the haters are here... You aren't very bright. I'm not proselytizing for agnosticism. I don't care whether anyone here is or becomes an agnostic, nor do I believe that agnosticism - or any other religious or non-religious philosophy - should become the "belief" of this nation. All I want are religiously neutral courts, government, public schools, et cetera, and public school systems that give no credence to religious beliefs. This is abstract, of course, and you've shown no evidence here of being capable of abstract thought. |
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I always like this quote.
"I always admired atheists. I think it takes a lot of faith." (Diane Frolov and Andrew Schneider, Northern Exposure, Seoul Mates, 1991) |
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On 12/22/10 8:25 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In , says... On Tue, 21 Dec 2010 23:12:39 -0800, wrote: On 12/21/2010 4:15 AM, I am Tosk wrote: Why are people that don't believe in God... .... So afraid of him? LOL! Atheists are afraid of your god like you are afraid of Zeus. Well said. Not really. If you look at this group this Christmas season, all you see is attack after intolerant bigoted attack against the faithful here for absolutely no good reason whatsoever... So, like most of your posts, this is a lie... So far as I can tell, the only follower of Jesus in this newsgroup is Tim, and I fully support his active christianity. You, on the other hand, are an amoral piece of crap who claims to be a christian but you are a CINO. |
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"Harryk" wrote in message ...
All I want are religiously neutral courts, government, public schools, et cetera, and public school systems that give no credence to religious beliefs. I'm sure Santa will bring you everything you wish for. Snerk! -- Ziggy® |
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On 12/22/10 8:33 AM, Tim wrote:
I always like this quote. "I always admired atheists. I think it takes a lot of faith." (Diane Frolov and Andrew Schneider, Northern Exposure, Seoul Mates, 1991) One of my closest friends is a Jesuit priest. I went to see him yesterday morning, and he told me the following: "A Jesuit priest comes running into the office of the Order's Director-General, shouting that the actual tomb of Jesus had been found in Jerusalem, and that the savior's bones were still there." "That means," the priest said, "there was no resurrection!" The Director-General responded: "Resurrection? You mean there was a Jesus?" Of course, you'd have to understand a bit about the Jesuits to get the joke. |
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"Harryk" wrote in message ...
On 12/22/10 8:25 AM, I am Tosk wrote: In , says... On Tue, 21 Dec 2010 23:12:39 -0800, wrote: On 12/21/2010 4:15 AM, I am Tosk wrote: Why are people that don't believe in God... .... So afraid of him? LOL! Atheists are afraid of your god like you are afraid of Zeus. Well said. Not really. If you look at this group this Christmas season, all you see is attack after intolerant bigoted attack against the faithful here for absolutely no good reason whatsoever... So, like most of your posts, this is a lie... So far as I can tell, the only follower of Jesus in this newsgroup is Tim, and I fully support his active christianity. You, on the other hand, are an amoral piece of crap who claims to be a christian but you are a CINO. God loves you anyway, Harry. -- Ziggy® |
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On 12/22/10 9:08 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In , says... On 12/22/10 8:23 AM, I am Tosk wrote: In , lid says... On 12/21/2010 4:15 AM, I am Tosk wrote: Why are people that don't believe in God... .... So afraid of him? LOL! Atheists are afraid of your god like you are afraid of Zeus. Well then, how come I haven't spent the last three weeks bashing the faithful and Christians in particular? Oh, wait! That's because I am not intolerant and I am not trying to shove my beliefs down anybodys throat like the haters are here... You aren't very bright. But I am honest, my word is not crap... I'm not proselytizing for agnosticism. Bull****, you and your friends are shoving it down our throats... Really? How so? I don't recall anyone asking or telling you to give up your faked christianity so you might be "converted" to agnosticism. Have the little old agnostic ladies been knocking on your door? |
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says... On 12/22/10 8:25 AM, I am Tosk wrote: In , says... On Tue, 21 Dec 2010 23:12:39 -0800, wrote: On 12/21/2010 4:15 AM, I am Tosk wrote: Why are people that don't believe in God... .... So afraid of him? LOL! Atheists are afraid of your god like you are afraid of Zeus. Well said. Not really. If you look at this group this Christmas season, all you see is attack after intolerant bigoted attack against the faithful here for absolutely no good reason whatsoever... So, like most of your posts, this is a lie... So far as I can tell, the only follower of Jesus in this newsgroup is Tim, and I fully support his active christianity. You, on the other hand, are an amoral piece of crap who claims to be a christian but you are a CINO. Another Snotty for the Harry ID spoofer. Man this is an intelligent, mature game. Nice name calling and insulting, though. |
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says... "Harryk" wrote in message ... On 12/22/10 8:25 AM, I am Tosk wrote: In , says... On Tue, 21 Dec 2010 23:12:39 -0800, wrote: On 12/21/2010 4:15 AM, I am Tosk wrote: Why are people that don't believe in God... .... So afraid of him? LOL! Atheists are afraid of your god like you are afraid of Zeus. Well said. Not really. If you look at this group this Christmas season, all you see is attack after intolerant bigoted attack against the faithful here for absolutely no good reason whatsoever... So, like most of your posts, this is a lie... So far as I can tell, the only follower of Jesus in this newsgroup is Tim, and I fully support his active christianity. You, on the other hand, are an amoral piece of crap who claims to be a christian but you are a CINO. God loves you anyway, Harry. No He doesn't. |
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