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http://www.clcboats.com/shop/boats/n...ng-dinghy.html
Scroll down to the bottom of the page and watch the video. I'm trying to figure out if it could be scaled up to 18 feet or so and reassembled in the water. |
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On 12/10/10 7:05 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
http://www.clcboats.com/shop/boats/n...ng-dinghy.html Scroll down to the bottom of the page and watch the video. I'm trying to figure out if it could be scaled up to 18 feet or so and reassembled in the water. Nice little boat and very well done video and site. It could be rescaled but assembly while in the water might be very difficult because of the then relatively ungainly size of the two pieces and problems in controlling them...unless you are talking about assembly at land's edge, where you could have one half of the boat wedged against the shore bottom. Thanks for the cite of the site. |
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On 12/10/2010 7:05 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
http://www.clcboats.com/shop/boats/n...ng-dinghy.html Scroll down to the bottom of the page and watch the video. I'm trying to figure out if it could be scaled up to 18 feet or so and reassembled in the water. I don't know about that, but it sure is a pretty little boat. I prefer the one that doesn't come apart in the middle. I see the site has kits. I might buy a kit. Thanks! |
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On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 08:14:28 -0500, "Paul@BYC"
wrote: On 12/10/2010 7:05 AM, Wayne.B wrote: http://www.clcboats.com/shop/boats/n...ng-dinghy.html Scroll down to the bottom of the page and watch the video. I'm trying to figure out if it could be scaled up to 18 feet or so and reassembled in the water. I don't know about that, but it sure is a pretty little boat. I prefer the one that doesn't come apart in the middle. I see the site has kits. I might buy a kit. Thanks! We have room to store a 12 to 13 foot dinghy on top of the aft cabin and use an electric hoist to launch it. Weight is an issue, maybe 400 to 500 lbs tops including outboard, fuel, anchor,etc. It looks like that Chesapeake dinghy separates into roughly 1/3 and 2/3rds of its length so I'm thinking 18 ft overall might be doable which is a nice size. I'd have to launch it in pieces and reassemble in the water however. |
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On 12/10/2010 11:13 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 08:14:28 -0500, wrote: On 12/10/2010 7:05 AM, Wayne.B wrote: http://www.clcboats.com/shop/boats/n...ng-dinghy.html Scroll down to the bottom of the page and watch the video. I'm trying to figure out if it could be scaled up to 18 feet or so and reassembled in the water. I don't know about that, but it sure is a pretty little boat. I prefer the one that doesn't come apart in the middle. I see the site has kits. I might buy a kit. Thanks! We have room to store a 12 to 13 foot dinghy on top of the aft cabin and use an electric hoist to launch it. Weight is an issue, maybe 400 to 500 lbs tops including outboard, fuel, anchor,etc. It looks like that Chesapeake dinghy separates into roughly 1/3 and 2/3rds of its length so I'm thinking 18 ft overall might be doable which is a nice size. I'd have to launch it in pieces and reassemble in the water however. Well, as a teacher of non-math/science-based liberal arts, my professorial opinion is that treading water while wrestling 12' and 6' boat sections together that also have to be bolted might be a heck of a lot to handle without drowning in the process. If you were successful, though, it would make a terrific video. I'd buy a copy. Curious, though, as to why you need an 18' semi-portable boat? |
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On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 11:13:35 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote: On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 08:14:28 -0500, "Paul@BYC" wrote: On 12/10/2010 7:05 AM, Wayne.B wrote: http://www.clcboats.com/shop/boats/n...ng-dinghy.html Scroll down to the bottom of the page and watch the video. I'm trying to figure out if it could be scaled up to 18 feet or so and reassembled in the water. I don't know about that, but it sure is a pretty little boat. I prefer the one that doesn't come apart in the middle. I see the site has kits. I might buy a kit. Thanks! We have room to store a 12 to 13 foot dinghy on top of the aft cabin and use an electric hoist to launch it. Weight is an issue, maybe 400 to 500 lbs tops including outboard, fuel, anchor,etc. It looks like that Chesapeake dinghy separates into roughly 1/3 and 2/3rds of its length so I'm thinking 18 ft overall might be doable which is a nice size. I'd have to launch it in pieces and reassemble in the water however. Yikes! Assemble in the water? 13 ft. Whaler is 320 lbs dry without motor. 450-475 with a motor. |
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On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 11:44:26 -0500, "Paul@BYC"
wrote: Well, as a teacher of non-math/science-based liberal arts, my professorial opinion is that treading water while wrestling 12' and 6' boat sections together that also have to be bolted might be a heck of a lot to handle without drowning in the process. If you were successful, though, it would make a terrific video. I'd buy a copy. Curious, though, as to why you need an 18' semi-portable boat? Heh, need is relative. :-) There are a lot of guys down in the Bahamas towing 30 ft offshore center consoles for use as a dinghy. Of course they are using them for some serious fishing also. From an assembly standpoint I'm thinking that as long as both halves have full flotation and some semblence of watertight integrity, that you could launch them as two seperate boats and then bolt them up in the water without even getting your feet wet. |
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On 12/10/10 12:01 PM, jps wrote:
On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 11:13:35 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 08:14:28 -0500, wrote: On 12/10/2010 7:05 AM, Wayne.B wrote: http://www.clcboats.com/shop/boats/n...ng-dinghy.html Scroll down to the bottom of the page and watch the video. I'm trying to figure out if it could be scaled up to 18 feet or so and reassembled in the water. I don't know about that, but it sure is a pretty little boat. I prefer the one that doesn't come apart in the middle. I see the site has kits. I might buy a kit. Thanks! We have room to store a 12 to 13 foot dinghy on top of the aft cabin and use an electric hoist to launch it. Weight is an issue, maybe 400 to 500 lbs tops including outboard, fuel, anchor,etc. It looks like that Chesapeake dinghy separates into roughly 1/3 and 2/3rds of its length so I'm thinking 18 ft overall might be doable which is a nice size. I'd have to launch it in pieces and reassemble in the water however. Yikes! Assemble in the water? 13 ft. Whaler is 320 lbs dry without motor. 450-475 with a motor. I get the idea he's going to launch one half with him in it, and then row over to the other half for assembly. There are several possible outcomes. among them: It could work. It could work and be funny to watch. It could not work and be even funnier to watch. In any case, it's adventurous and probably not too dangerous. |
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On Dec 10, 3:58*pm, wrote:
On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 13:35:37 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 11:44:26 -0500, "Paul@BYC" wrote: Well, as a teacher of non-math/science-based liberal arts, my professorial opinion is that treading water while wrestling 12' and 6' boat sections together that also have to be bolted might be a heck of a lot to handle without drowning in the process. If you were successful, though, it would make a terrific video. I'd buy a copy. Curious, though, as to why you need an 18' semi-portable boat? Heh, need is relative. * :-) There are a lot of guys down in the Bahamas towing 30 ft offshore center consoles for use as a dinghy. * Of course they are using them for some serious fishing also. From an assembly standpoint I'm thinking that as long as both halves have full flotation and some semblence of watertight integrity, that you could launch them as two seperate boats and then bolt them up in the water without even getting your feet wet. That might work if you had some tapered alignment pins to get you started and a rope, pulled through a hole, to pull it up.. Maybe add a couple of toggle clamps to hold things until you got the screws in. I built a dinghy a lot like this from plans from the net. It is called a 2-paw 9 and is 9' long and rows very well and has a lot of room. It nests together very well on the foredeck of my 28' sailboat. However, assembly is a bit odd. Using the bolts they show is absurd so I came up with a better way. I made stainless tabs on one part that slide into notches on the other half. On the outside I use stainless "draw clamps" along the gunnel that pull the two halves together. No bolts to leak. Assembly goes like this. Use the halyard to lift a half, tie a line to it and to the main boat, lower it into the water. Do the same with the other half. Get into the back half, pull the front half toward me and slide the Stainless tabs into the notches and then lock the draw clamps. So, Yes, assembly is done in the water. I also put floatation in mine by gluing in some closed cell foam. |
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On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 15:31:58 -0500, HarryK
wrote: On 12/10/10 12:01 PM, jps wrote: On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 11:13:35 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 08:14:28 -0500, wrote: On 12/10/2010 7:05 AM, Wayne.B wrote: http://www.clcboats.com/shop/boats/n...ng-dinghy.html Scroll down to the bottom of the page and watch the video. I'm trying to figure out if it could be scaled up to 18 feet or so and reassembled in the water. I don't know about that, but it sure is a pretty little boat. I prefer the one that doesn't come apart in the middle. I see the site has kits. I might buy a kit. Thanks! We have room to store a 12 to 13 foot dinghy on top of the aft cabin and use an electric hoist to launch it. Weight is an issue, maybe 400 to 500 lbs tops including outboard, fuel, anchor,etc. It looks like that Chesapeake dinghy separates into roughly 1/3 and 2/3rds of its length so I'm thinking 18 ft overall might be doable which is a nice size. I'd have to launch it in pieces and reassemble in the water however. Yikes! Assemble in the water? 13 ft. Whaler is 320 lbs dry without motor. 450-475 with a motor. I get the idea he's going to launch one half with him in it, and then row over to the other half for assembly. There are several possible outcomes. among them: It could work. It could work and be funny to watch. It could not work and be even funnier to watch. In any case, it's adventurous and probably not too dangerous. Well, it could be amusing and adventurous, but it could be dangerous in anything but calm, warm waters. I can see the upside if it were the reserve dink and not the main. |
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On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 14:07:58 -0500, I am Tosk
wrote: It could easily be scaled up... Who is gonna' build it, you? Sure, why not? I've rebuilt and repaired quite a few boats but never done a whole one from scratch. Tools are not a problem and I've got lots of time and good weather most of the time. Space is more of an issue but could do it in the driveway, down on the dock or on the back patio. |
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On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 15:31:58 -0500, HarryK
wrote: I get the idea he's going to launch one half with him in it, and then row over to the other half for assembly. It wouldn't be that different from launching the present dinghy except for the reassembly. The small section would go in first with the bow painter on it, then tie it off on the stern of the big boat. Next you'd launch the big section with a stern line on it. Next step would be to get into the big section, line it up with the small one and bolt them together. It would be difficult in windy weather but we try to avoid that even now. |
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
... On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 15:31:58 -0500, HarryK wrote: I get the idea he's going to launch one half with him in it, and then row over to the other half for assembly. It wouldn't be that different from launching the present dinghy except for the reassembly. The small section would go in first with the bow painter on it, then tie it off on the stern of the big boat. Next you'd launch the big section with a stern line on it. Next step would be to get into the big section, line it up with the small one and bolt them together. It would be difficult in windy weather but we try to avoid that even now. Reply: Actually sounds very doable. Just make a bulkhead at the front of the large section and bulkhead at the back of the front section. Make it two boats. Then merge them with some large tapered alignment bins and instead of all bolts, a zeus type fastener. Or on second thought, the alignment pins are only tapered on the front and have a course Acme type thread to spin on large nuts quickly. Then a couple more bolts if needed.Maybe need a rubber plug in the bottom bolt holes while launching. The bulkheads would allow both sections to float and with a rubber washer on the connectors, no or little water entering the skiff. |
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On Dec 11, 1:17*am, "Califbill" wrote:
"Wayne.B" *wrote in message ... On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 15:31:58 -0500, HarryK wrote: I get the idea he's going to launch one half with him in it, and then row over to the other half for assembly. It wouldn't be that different from launching the present dinghy except for the reassembly. * The small section would go in first with the bow painter on it, then tie it off on the stern of the big boat. * Next you'd launch the big section with a stern line on it. * Next step would be to get into the big section, line it up with the small one and bolt them together. *It would be difficult in windy weather but we try to avoid that even now. Reply: Actually sounds very doable. *Just make a bulkhead at the front of the large section and bulkhead at the back of the front section. *Make it two boats. Then merge them with some large tapered alignment bins and instead of all bolts, a zeus type fastener. *Or on second thought, the alignment pins are only tapered on the front and have a course Acme type thread to spin on large nuts quickly. *Then a couple more bolts if needed.Maybe need a rubber plug in the bottom bolt holes while launching. *The bulkheads would allow both sections to float and with a rubber washer on the connectors, no or little water entering the skiff. I have doubts about a long version because of the torque about the center from weight in the ends. This much less of a problem in a short one. Remember, you are really stressing the attachment points. I tried several ways to get the bolt idea to work including putting foam strips with small holes over the bolt holes to help seal the bolt holes; kinda sorta worked. I investigated "Slip nuts" for this to make assembly much faster but never used them. The seat on mine helps hold the two halves together by means of a slot cut into the seat lengthwise. I deepened this slot by putting strips on either side of the slot. This could be carried to an extreme to make the seat carry more of the torque. I also looked into using "Deep C clamps" available from Mcmaster-Carr (my toy store) but they seem very heavy. The stainless "Draw Clamps" from McMaster_Carr installed just below the rub rail on the outside so they do not extend beyond the rail work very well. They hold the halves together near the top. The seat holds them together across the boat. You still need a way to hold them together at the bottom. For this I got two pieces of 1/8" X 2" X6" pieces of stainless and bent them 90 degrees in the middle. I recessed them into the bottom of the back half with bolts and epoxy so the tab sticks up between the two halves about 1/8" from the bulkhead. On the other half, I made a recessed receptacle covered with another piece of SS. This is very strong, probably stronger than the bolts. |
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... On Dec 11, 1:17 am, "Califbill" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 15:31:58 -0500, HarryK wrote: I get the idea he's going to launch one half with him in it, and then row over to the other half for assembly. It wouldn't be that different from launching the present dinghy except for the reassembly. The small section would go in first with the bow painter on it, then tie it off on the stern of the big boat. Next you'd launch the big section with a stern line on it. Next step would be to get into the big section, line it up with the small one and bolt them together. It would be difficult in windy weather but we try to avoid that even now. Reply: Actually sounds very doable. Just make a bulkhead at the front of the large section and bulkhead at the back of the front section. Make it two boats. Then merge them with some large tapered alignment bins and instead of all bolts, a zeus type fastener. Or on second thought, the alignment pins are only tapered on the front and have a course Acme type thread to spin on large nuts quickly. Then a couple more bolts if needed.Maybe need a rubber plug in the bottom bolt holes while launching. The bulkheads would allow both sections to float and with a rubber washer on the connectors, no or little water entering the skiff. I have doubts about a long version because of the torque about the center from weight in the ends. This much less of a problem in a short one. Remember, you are really stressing the attachment points. I tried several ways to get the bolt idea to work including putting foam strips with small holes over the bolt holes to help seal the bolt holes; kinda sorta worked. I investigated "Slip nuts" for this to make assembly much faster but never used them. The seat on mine helps hold the two halves together by means of a slot cut into the seat lengthwise. I deepened this slot by putting strips on either side of the slot. This could be carried to an extreme to make the seat carry more of the torque. I also looked into using "Deep C clamps" available from Mcmaster-Carr (my toy store) but they seem very heavy. The stainless "Draw Clamps" from McMaster_Carr installed just below the rub rail on the outside so they do not extend beyond the rail work very well. They hold the halves together near the top. The seat holds them together across the boat. You still need a way to hold them together at the bottom. For this I got two pieces of 1/8" X 2" X6" pieces of stainless and bent them 90 degrees in the middle. I recessed them into the bottom of the back half with bolts and epoxy so the tab sticks up between the two halves about 1/8" from the bulkhead. On the other half, I made a recessed receptacle covered with another piece of SS. This is very strong, probably stronger than the bolts. Reply: You could make some stainless tabs that slipped into a receiver on the large section, etc. |
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On Sat, 11 Dec 2010 00:40:30 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote: On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 15:31:58 -0500, HarryK wrote: I get the idea he's going to launch one half with him in it, and then row over to the other half for assembly. It wouldn't be that different from launching the present dinghy except for the reassembly. The small section would go in first with the bow painter on it, then tie it off on the stern of the big boat. Next you'd launch the big section with a stern line on it. Next step would be to get into the big section, line it up with the small one and bolt them together. It would be difficult in windy weather but we try to avoid that even now. The important thing is to take lots of pictures and share them with us! |
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On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 11:02:22 -0500, John H
wrote: It wouldn't be that different from launching the present dinghy except for the reassembly. The small section would go in first with the bow painter on it, then tie it off on the stern of the big boat. Next you'd launch the big section with a stern line on it. Next step would be to get into the big section, line it up with the small one and bolt them together. It would be difficult in windy weather but we try to avoid that even now. The important thing is to take lots of pictures and share them with us! You know I'd do that. I'm beginning to have my doubts about the feasability of the "stretch" modification however. Some good points have been raised about the stresses at the attachment point joining the two halves. Growing the boat larger would only make that worse, especially with an outboard big enough to reach planing speeds. The design was intended as a small rowing and sailing dinghy and that is probably where it should stay. I'm thinking that one of Scott's Brockway Skiffs could probably be built as a two piece boat that would be more suitable for a big outboard if the right attachment method could be found. It would be heavy though unless built with high tech materials. http://www.yaimkool.com/ http://photobucket.com/images/brockway%20skiff/ |
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On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 12:37:57 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote: On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 11:02:22 -0500, John H wrote: It wouldn't be that different from launching the present dinghy except for the reassembly. The small section would go in first with the bow painter on it, then tie it off on the stern of the big boat. Next you'd launch the big section with a stern line on it. Next step would be to get into the big section, line it up with the small one and bolt them together. It would be difficult in windy weather but we try to avoid that even now. The important thing is to take lots of pictures and share them with us! You know I'd do that. I'm beginning to have my doubts about the feasability of the "stretch" modification however. Some good points have been raised about the stresses at the attachment point joining the two halves. Growing the boat larger would only make that worse, especially with an outboard big enough to reach planing speeds. The design was intended as a small rowing and sailing dinghy and that is probably where it should stay. I'm thinking that one of Scott's Brockway Skiffs could probably be built as a two piece boat that would be more suitable for a big outboard if the right attachment method could be found. It would be heavy though unless built with high tech materials. http://www.yaimkool.com/ http://photobucket.com/images/brockway%20skiff/ Well, I'll bet if you two put your heads together he could come up with a satisfactory design and build a damn decent boat for you. |
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On 12/12/10 1:55 PM, John H wrote:
On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 12:37:57 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 11:02:22 -0500, John wrote: It wouldn't be that different from launching the present dinghy except for the reassembly. The small section would go in first with the bow painter on it, then tie it off on the stern of the big boat. Next you'd launch the big section with a stern line on it. Next step would be to get into the big section, line it up with the small one and bolt them together. It would be difficult in windy weather but we try to avoid that even now. The important thing is to take lots of pictures and share them with us! You know I'd do that. I'm beginning to have my doubts about the feasability of the "stretch" modification however. Some good points have been raised about the stresses at the attachment point joining the two halves. Growing the boat larger would only make that worse, especially with an outboard big enough to reach planing speeds. The design was intended as a small rowing and sailing dinghy and that is probably where it should stay. I'm thinking that one of Scott's Brockway Skiffs could probably be built as a two piece boat that would be more suitable for a big outboard if the right attachment method could be found. It would be heavy though unless built with high tech materials. http://www.yaimkool.com/ http://photobucket.com/images/brockway%20skiff/ Well, I'll bet if you two put your heads together he could come up with a satisfactory design and build a damn decent boat for you. I'd rather have a nice Amesbury dory, 12' long, and weighing 300 pounds: http://www.stur-deeboat.com/dory.html I used to fish in one of these when they were built of wood. They are really solid, seaworthy little boats, easy to power, even rowable. Damned fine looking boats, too. |
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On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 14:02:59 -0500, HarryK wrote:
On 12/12/10 1:55 PM, John H wrote: On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 12:37:57 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 11:02:22 -0500, John wrote: It wouldn't be that different from launching the present dinghy except for the reassembly. The small section would go in first with the bow painter on it, then tie it off on the stern of the big boat. Next you'd launch the big section with a stern line on it. Next step would be to get into the big section, line it up with the small one and bolt them together. It would be difficult in windy weather but we try to avoid that even now. The important thing is to take lots of pictures and share them with us! You know I'd do that. I'm beginning to have my doubts about the feasability of the "stretch" modification however. Some good points have been raised about the stresses at the attachment point joining the two halves. Growing the boat larger would only make that worse, especially with an outboard big enough to reach planing speeds. The design was intended as a small rowing and sailing dinghy and that is probably where it should stay. I'm thinking that one of Scott's Brockway Skiffs could probably be built as a two piece boat that would be more suitable for a big outboard if the right attachment method could be found. It would be heavy though unless built with high tech materials. http://www.yaimkool.com/ http://photobucket.com/images/brockway%20skiff/ Well, I'll bet if you two put your heads together he could come up with a satisfactory design and build a damn decent boat for you. I'd rather have a nice Amesbury dory, 12' long, and weighing 300 pounds: http://www.stur-deeboat.com/dory.html I used to fish in one of these when they were built of wood. They are really solid, seaworthy little boats, easy to power, even rowable. Damned fine looking boats, too. I'm sure Scotty could build one of those quite nicely also. |
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On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 14:17:55 -0500, I am Tosk
wrote: Well, I'll bet if you two put your heads together he could come up with a satisfactory design and build a damn decent boat for you. Well, right now I am a bit confused about what Wayne wants his boat to do. Wayne, do you want a rowboat/sailboat for fun, or are you looking for more of a mooring tender/launch? I mean, most folks I would give the speech about tradeoffs, but I am sure you know the drill;) Either way though, I would be happy to help with the design and construction details... From what I read before I am wondering if a one peice 12 foot skiff (Brockway style) might do what he needs a boat to do.. I've already got a fairly decent 12 ft RIB dinghy and I have another 12 ft roll-up Avon that we carry as a spare. They are just fine most of the time but when it's windy/choppy extra length is always better for a smoother/drier ride. The largest I can comfortably fit on top of the aft cabin is about 12 to 13 ft so anything bigger would need to be two pieces or towed behind. Towing behind is highly problematic offshore unless it is a good sized self bailing boat, unlikely to capsize. The limit on hoisting weight is about 400 lbs all inclusive. The motor with 2 fuel tanks, battery and anchor weigh in at about 200 lbs leaving about 200 lbs for the boat (or aft half). Chances are this is not going anywhere but I saw the video of that pretty little two piece pram and started thinking... |
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On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 15:51:00 -0500, I am Tosk
wrote: That's a nice boat but it would be difficult to make it come in under 200 pounds, especially in two pieces. If I were to go for it, I might look at Kevlar but who the hell wants to work with that stuff? That's one of the attractions of a two part boat - only the stern section has to come in at 200 lbs (allowing another 200 for motor, fuel and gear). Each section would be hoisted individually and assembled in the water. Fuel tanks and anchor, maybe even the battery, could be kept in the forward section to allow more weight aft. I agree about Kevlar, nasty stuff to work with. I used it to repair a rudder once and ended up with nothing but yellow fuzz when I sanded it. Carbon fiber is not bad though, just a bit pricey. Doug King, who used to hang out here, made a beautiful carbon fiber and foam dinghy a few years back. It weighed well under 100 pounds as I recall. |
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On Dec 12, 6:15*pm, I am Tosk wrote:
In article , says... On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 15:51:00 -0500, I am Tosk wrote: That's a nice boat but it would be difficult to make it come in under 200 pounds, especially in two pieces. If I were to go for it, I might look at Kevlar but who the hell wants to work with that stuff? That's one of the attractions of a two part boat - only the stern section has to come in at 200 lbs (allowing another 200 for motor, fuel and gear). *Each section would be hoisted individually and assembled in the water. *Fuel tanks and anchor, maybe even the battery, could be kept in the forward section to allow more weight aft. I agree about Kevlar, nasty stuff to work with. *I used it to repair a rudder once and ended up with nothing but yellow fuzz when I sanded it. *Carbon fiber is not bad though, just a bit pricey. *Doug King, who used to hang out here, made a beautiful carbon fiber and foam dinghy a few years back. *It weighed well under 100 pounds as I recall. As to a dinghy, I have made an 8 foot dinghy of Occume that came in at a whopping 60 pounds.. I suppose if you used spruce framing and 6mm occoume, with 4 oz. tight weave in the seams and skin, it could be done without Kevlar or Carbon fiber... -- Rowdy Mouse Racing - Pain is temporary, Glory is forever! My 9' nesting 2-Paw-9 is about 90 lbs. She coulda been lighter. Only having to lift one half at a time makes her easy to deal with. |
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"I am Tosk" wrote in message ... In article , says... On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 11:02:22 -0500, John H wrote: It wouldn't be that different from launching the present dinghy except for the reassembly. The small section would go in first with the bow painter on it, then tie it off on the stern of the big boat. Next you'd launch the big section with a stern line on it. Next step would be to get into the big section, line it up with the small one and bolt them together. It would be difficult in windy weather but we try to avoid that even now. The important thing is to take lots of pictures and share them with us! You know I'd do that. I'm beginning to have my doubts about the feasability of the "stretch" modification however. Some good points have been raised about the stresses at the attachment point joining the two halves. Growing the boat larger would only make that worse, especially with an outboard big enough to reach planing speeds. The design was intended as a small rowing and sailing dinghy and that is probably where it should stay. I'm thinking that one of Scott's Brockway Skiffs could probably be built as a two piece boat that would be more suitable for a big outboard if the right attachment method could be found. It would be heavy though unless built with high tech materials. http://www.yaimkool.com/ http://photobucket.com/images/brockway%20skiff/ You know.. A one piece 12 foot version of that boat can be built under 200 pounds or at least close. A 12 footer can carry 4 folks comfortably with probably 6-800 pounds of gear and supplies. An 8 horse engine will make the thing fly too... -- Rowdy Mouse Racing - Pain is temporary, Glory is forever! Must be a magic boat. My 14.5 foot aluminum boat is rated for just under 900 lbs...... that is three adults and gear here in Canada. I find the 25 hp 2 stroke will make it fly...maxing out at 27 mph. |
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"HarryK" wrote in message ... On 12/12/10 1:55 PM, John H wrote: On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 12:37:57 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 11:02:22 -0500, John wrote: It wouldn't be that different from launching the present dinghy except for the reassembly. The small section would go in first with the bow painter on it, then tie it off on the stern of the big boat. Next you'd launch the big section with a stern line on it. Next step would be to get into the big section, line it up with the small one and bolt them together. It would be difficult in windy weather but we try to avoid that even now. The important thing is to take lots of pictures and share them with us! You know I'd do that. I'm beginning to have my doubts about the feasability of the "stretch" modification however. Some good points have been raised about the stresses at the attachment point joining the two halves. Growing the boat larger would only make that worse, especially with an outboard big enough to reach planing speeds. The design was intended as a small rowing and sailing dinghy and that is probably where it should stay. I'm thinking that one of Scott's Brockway Skiffs could probably be built as a two piece boat that would be more suitable for a big outboard if the right attachment method could be found. It would be heavy though unless built with high tech materials. http://www.yaimkool.com/ http://photobucket.com/images/brockway%20skiff/ Well, I'll bet if you two put your heads together he could come up with a satisfactory design and build a damn decent boat for you. I'd rather have a nice Amesbury dory, 12' long, and weighing 300 pounds: http://www.stur-deeboat.com/dory.html I used to fish in one of these when they were built of wood. They are really solid, seaworthy little boats, easy to power, even rowable. Damned fine looking boats, too. Or ..if you want a real dory.... http://www.doryshop.com/the_dory.html |
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says... "I am Tosk" wrote in message ... In article , says... On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 11:02:22 -0500, John H wrote: It wouldn't be that different from launching the present dinghy except for the reassembly. The small section would go in first with the bow painter on it, then tie it off on the stern of the big boat. Next you'd launch the big section with a stern line on it. Next step would be to get into the big section, line it up with the small one and bolt them together. It would be difficult in windy weather but we try to avoid that even now. The important thing is to take lots of pictures and share them with us! You know I'd do that. I'm beginning to have my doubts about the feasability of the "stretch" modification however. Some good points have been raised about the stresses at the attachment point joining the two halves. Growing the boat larger would only make that worse, especially with an outboard big enough to reach planing speeds. The design was intended as a small rowing and sailing dinghy and that is probably where it should stay. I'm thinking that one of Scott's Brockway Skiffs could probably be built as a two piece boat that would be more suitable for a big outboard if the right attachment method could be found. It would be heavy though unless built with high tech materials. http://www.yaimkool.com/ http://photobucket.com/images/brockway%20skiff/ You know.. A one piece 12 foot version of that boat can be built under 200 pounds or at least close. A 12 footer can carry 4 folks comfortably with probably 6-800 pounds of gear and supplies. An 8 horse engine will make the thing fly too... -- Rowdy Mouse Racing - Pain is temporary, Glory is forever! Must be a magic boat. My 14.5 foot aluminum boat is rated for just under 900 lbs...... that is three adults and gear here in Canada. 27 mph is "flying" in your neck of the woods? |
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On 12/13/10 10:08 AM, YukonBound wrote:
"HarryK" wrote in message ... On 12/12/10 1:55 PM, John H wrote: On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 12:37:57 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 11:02:22 -0500, John wrote: It wouldn't be that different from launching the present dinghy except for the reassembly. The small section would go in first with the bow painter on it, then tie it off on the stern of the big boat. Next you'd launch the big section with a stern line on it. Next step would be to get into the big section, line it up with the small one and bolt them together. It would be difficult in windy weather but we try to avoid that even now. The important thing is to take lots of pictures and share them with us! You know I'd do that. I'm beginning to have my doubts about the feasability of the "stretch" modification however. Some good points have been raised about the stresses at the attachment point joining the two halves. Growing the boat larger would only make that worse, especially with an outboard big enough to reach planing speeds. The design was intended as a small rowing and sailing dinghy and that is probably where it should stay. I'm thinking that one of Scott's Brockway Skiffs could probably be built as a two piece boat that would be more suitable for a big outboard if the right attachment method could be found. It would be heavy though unless built with high tech materials. http://www.yaimkool.com/ http://photobucket.com/images/brockway%20skiff/ Well, I'll bet if you two put your heads together he could come up with a satisfactory design and build a damn decent boat for you. I'd rather have a nice Amesbury dory, 12' long, and weighing 300 pounds: http://www.stur-deeboat.com/dory.html I used to fish in one of these when they were built of wood. They are really solid, seaworthy little boats, easy to power, even rowable. Damned fine looking boats, too. Or ..if you want a real dory.... http://www.doryshop.com/the_dory.html That's a looker, for sure, but I like the Stur-Dees for several reasons, one of which is that the hulls are made of fiberglass these days. I don't mind a modest amount of wood trim on a boat, but an all wood boat? Too much maintenance. |
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"Don Won" wrote in message ... In article , says... "I am Tosk" wrote in message ... In article , says... On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 11:02:22 -0500, John H wrote: It wouldn't be that different from launching the present dinghy except for the reassembly. The small section would go in first with the bow painter on it, then tie it off on the stern of the big boat. Next you'd launch the big section with a stern line on it. Next step would be to get into the big section, line it up with the small one and bolt them together. It would be difficult in windy weather but we try to avoid that even now. The important thing is to take lots of pictures and share them with us! You know I'd do that. I'm beginning to have my doubts about the feasability of the "stretch" modification however. Some good points have been raised about the stresses at the attachment point joining the two halves. Growing the boat larger would only make that worse, especially with an outboard big enough to reach planing speeds. The design was intended as a small rowing and sailing dinghy and that is probably where it should stay. I'm thinking that one of Scott's Brockway Skiffs could probably be built as a two piece boat that would be more suitable for a big outboard if the right attachment method could be found. It would be heavy though unless built with high tech materials. http://www.yaimkool.com/ http://photobucket.com/images/brockway%20skiff/ You know.. A one piece 12 foot version of that boat can be built under 200 pounds or at least close. A 12 footer can carry 4 folks comfortably with probably 6-800 pounds of gear and supplies. An 8 horse engine will make the thing fly too... -- Rowdy Mouse Racing - Pain is temporary, Glory is forever! Must be a magic boat. My 14.5 foot aluminum boat is rated for just under 900 lbs...... that is three adults and gear here in Canada. 27 mph is "flying" in your neck of the woods? On the open North Atlantic...... you betcha! |
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On 12/13/10 10:42 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
Must be a magic boat. My 14.5 foot aluminum boat is rated for just under 900 lbs...... that is three adults and gear here in Canada. 27 mph is "flying" in your neck of the woods? Don't mind the trolls. I have been in Don's rowboat, it's about 3 feet wide with a round bilge and stem..... Ever hear the term, "Apples and Oranges"? Going snotty again, scotty? |
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"I am Tosk" wrote in message ... In article , says... In article , says... "I am Tosk" wrote in message ... In article , says... On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 11:02:22 -0500, John H wrote: It wouldn't be that different from launching the present dinghy except for the reassembly. The small section would go in first with the bow painter on it, then tie it off on the stern of the big boat. Next you'd launch the big section with a stern line on it. Next step would be to get into the big section, line it up with the small one and bolt them together. It would be difficult in windy weather but we try to avoid that even now. The important thing is to take lots of pictures and share them with us! You know I'd do that. I'm beginning to have my doubts about the feasability of the "stretch" modification however. Some good points have been raised about the stresses at the attachment point joining the two halves. Growing the boat larger would only make that worse, especially with an outboard big enough to reach planing speeds. The design was intended as a small rowing and sailing dinghy and that is probably where it should stay. I'm thinking that one of Scott's Brockway Skiffs could probably be built as a two piece boat that would be more suitable for a big outboard if the right attachment method could be found. It would be heavy though unless built with high tech materials. http://www.yaimkool.com/ http://photobucket.com/images/brockway%20skiff/ You know.. A one piece 12 foot version of that boat can be built under 200 pounds or at least close. A 12 footer can carry 4 folks comfortably with probably 6-800 pounds of gear and supplies. An 8 horse engine will make the thing fly too... -- Rowdy Mouse Racing - Pain is temporary, Glory is forever! Must be a magic boat. My 14.5 foot aluminum boat is rated for just under 900 lbs...... that is three adults and gear here in Canada. 27 mph is "flying" in your neck of the woods? Don't mind the trolls. I have been in Don's rowboat, it's about 3 feet wide with a round bilge and stem..... Ever hear the term, "Apples and Oranges"? Is that so? Maybe Tom will act as the voice of truth here. I say it's about 67" wide with a nice wide transom.... I have, and can again, provide pictures. You've been outted as a bald faced liar Scotty........ no surprise there! http://www.princecraft.com/Content/e.../Yukon-15.aspx |
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On 12/13/10 11:19 AM, YukonBound wrote:
"I am Tosk" wrote in message ... In article , says... In article , says... "I am Tosk" wrote in message ... In article , says... On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 11:02:22 -0500, John H wrote: It wouldn't be that different from launching the present dinghy except for the reassembly. The small section would go in first with the bow painter on it, then tie it off on the stern of the big boat. Next you'd launch the big section with a stern line on it. Next step would be to get into the big section, line it up with the small one and bolt them together. It would be difficult in windy weather but we try to avoid that even now. The important thing is to take lots of pictures and share them with us! You know I'd do that. I'm beginning to have my doubts about the feasability of the "stretch" modification however. Some good points have been raised about the stresses at the attachment point joining the two halves. Growing the boat larger would only make that worse, especially with an outboard big enough to reach planing speeds. The design was intended as a small rowing and sailing dinghy and that is probably where it should stay. I'm thinking that one of Scott's Brockway Skiffs could probably be built as a two piece boat that would be more suitable for a big outboard if the right attachment method could be found. It would be heavy though unless built with high tech materials. http://www.yaimkool.com/ http://photobucket.com/images/brockway%20skiff/ You know.. A one piece 12 foot version of that boat can be built under 200 pounds or at least close. A 12 footer can carry 4 folks comfortably with probably 6-800 pounds of gear and supplies. An 8 horse engine will make the thing fly too... -- Rowdy Mouse Racing - Pain is temporary, Glory is forever! Must be a magic boat. My 14.5 foot aluminum boat is rated for just under 900 lbs...... that is three adults and gear here in Canada. 27 mph is "flying" in your neck of the woods? Don't mind the trolls. I have been in Don's rowboat, it's about 3 feet wide with a round bilge and stem..... Ever hear the term, "Apples and Oranges"? Is that so? Maybe Tom will act as the voice of truth here. I say it's about 67" wide with a nice wide transom.... I have, and can again, provide pictures. You've been outted as a bald faced liar Scotty........ no surprise there! http://www.princecraft.com/Content/e.../Yukon-15.aspx That's really funny...Scotty lying about the measurements of someone else's boat and of course doing it in an insulting way. It's funny because we've all seen photos of some of Scotty's boats and the time and effort he spends "finishing" them with leftover house paint from the "mismatched/out-of-date table" at Home Despot. He keeps them up nicely, too, what with weathered, peeling paint and checked plywood. By the way, some of the best-riding classy small boats have or had round bilges. Methinks Scotty is jealous because his stitch'n'glue technique lends itself to mostly hard chined, flat-bottomed boats, boats that pound in a head sea. See, Scotty - it takes no effort to be as snotty as you are. Are you sure you want to continue down the road to the past? I know your boy(s) Ziggy, CrotchDon, the HarryK spoofer, LG and BAR do...but do you? |
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says... "I am Tosk" wrote in message ... In article , says... In article , says... "I am Tosk" wrote in message ... In article , says... On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 11:02:22 -0500, John H wrote: It wouldn't be that different from launching the present dinghy except for the reassembly. The small section would go in first with the bow painter on it, then tie it off on the stern of the big boat. Next you'd launch the big section with a stern line on it. Next step would be to get into the big section, line it up with the small one and bolt them together. It would be difficult in windy weather but we try to avoid that even now. The important thing is to take lots of pictures and share them with us! You know I'd do that. I'm beginning to have my doubts about the feasability of the "stretch" modification however. Some good points have been raised about the stresses at the attachment point joining the two halves. Growing the boat larger would only make that worse, especially with an outboard big enough to reach planing speeds. The design was intended as a small rowing and sailing dinghy and that is probably where it should stay. I'm thinking that one of Scott's Brockway Skiffs could probably be built as a two piece boat that would be more suitable for a big outboard if the right attachment method could be found. It would be Nice insulting and name calling. That should help with the group harmony. |
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On 12/13/10 11:19 AM, YukonBound wrote:
"I am Tosk" wrote in message ... In article , says... In article , says... "I am Tosk" wrote in message ... In article , says... On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 11:02:22 -0500, John H wrote: It wouldn't be that different from launching the present dinghy except for the reassembly. The small section would go in first with the bow painter on it, then tie it off on the stern of the big boat. Next you'd launch the big section with a stern line on it. Next step would be to get into the big section, line it up with the small one and bolt them together. It would be difficult in windy weather but we try to avoid that even now. The important thing is to take lots of pictures and share them with us! You know I'd do that. I'm beginning to have my doubts about the feasability of the "stretch" modification however. Some good points have been raised about the stresses at the attachment point joining the two halves. Growing the boat larger would only make that worse, especially with an outboard big enough to reach planing speeds. The design was intended as a small rowing and sailing dinghy and that is probably where it should stay. I'm thinking that one of Scott's Brockway Skiffs could probably be built as a two piece boat that would be more suitable for a big outboard if the right attachment method could be found. It would be heavy though unless built with high tech materials. http://www.yaimkool.com/ http://photobucket.com/images/brockway%20skiff/ You know.. A one piece 12 foot version of that boat can be built under 200 pounds or at least close. A 12 footer can carry 4 folks comfortably with probably 6-800 pounds of gear and supplies. An 8 horse engine will make the thing fly too... -- Rowdy Mouse Racing - Pain is temporary, Glory is forever! Must be a magic boat. My 14.5 foot aluminum boat is rated for just under 900 lbs...... that is three adults and gear here in Canada. 27 mph is "flying" in your neck of the woods? Don't mind the trolls. I have been in Don's rowboat, it's about 3 feet wide with a round bilge and stem..... Ever hear the term, "Apples and Oranges"? Is that so? Maybe Tom will act as the voice of truth here. I say it's about 67" wide with a nice wide transom.... I have, and can again, provide pictures. You've been outted as a bald faced liar Scotty........ no surprise there! http://www.princecraft.com/Content/e.../Yukon-15.aspx When you are really short, 3' looks like 6' and 6' looks like the Grand Canyon. What say you, Scotty? Want to behave or want to be the old, Snotty Scotty? |
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"I am Tosk" wrote in message ... In article , says... In article , says... "I am Tosk" wrote in message ... In article , says... On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 11:02:22 -0500, John H wrote: It wouldn't be that different from launching the present dinghy except for the reassembly. The small section would go in first with the bow painter on it, then tie it off on the stern of the big boat. Next you'd launch the big section with a stern line on it. Next step would be to get into the big section, line it up with the small one and bolt them together. It would be difficult in windy weather but we try to avoid that even now. The important thing is to take lots of pictures and share them with us! You know I'd do that. I'm beginning to have my doubts about the feasability of the "stretch" modification however. Some good points have been raised about the stresses at the attachment point joining the two halves. Growing the boat larger would only make that worse, especially with an outboard big enough to reach planing speeds. The design was intended as a small rowing and sailing dinghy and that is probably where it should stay. I'm thinking that one of Scott's Brockway Skiffs could probably be built as a two piece boat that would be more suitable for a big outboard if the right attachment method could be found. It would be heavy though unless built with high tech materials. http://www.yaimkool.com/ http://photobucket.com/images/brockway%20skiff/ You know.. A one piece 12 foot version of that boat can be built under 200 pounds or at least close. A 12 footer can carry 4 folks comfortably with probably 6-800 pounds of gear and supplies. An 8 horse engine will make the thing fly too... -- Rowdy Mouse Racing - Pain is temporary, Glory is forever! Must be a magic boat. My 14.5 foot aluminum boat is rated for just under 900 lbs...... that is three adults and gear here in Canada. 27 mph is "flying" in your neck of the woods? Don't mind the trolls. I have been in Don's rowboat, it's about 3 feet wide with a round bilge and stem..... Ever hear the term, "Apples and Oranges"? Is that so? Maybe Tom will act as the voice of truth here. I say it's about 67" wide with a nice wide transom.... I have, and can again, provide pictures. You've been outted as a bald faced liar Scotty........ no surprise there! http://www.princecraft.com/Content/e.../Yukon-15.aspx How do you drive that thing? There's no steering wheel. -- Ziggy® |
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"Ziggy®" wrote in message ... "YukonBound" wrote in message ... "I am Tosk" wrote in message ... In article , says... In article , says... "I am Tosk" wrote in message ... In article , says... On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 11:02:22 -0500, John H wrote: It wouldn't be that different from launching the present dinghy except for the reassembly. The small section would go in first with the bow painter on it, then tie it off on the stern of the big boat. Next you'd launch the big section with a stern line on it. Next step would be to get into the big section, line it up with the small one and bolt them together. It would be difficult in windy weather but we try to avoid that even now. The important thing is to take lots of pictures and share them with us! You know I'd do that. I'm beginning to have my doubts about the feasability of the "stretch" modification however. Some good points have been raised about the stresses at the attachment point joining the two halves. Growing the boat larger would only make that worse, especially with an outboard big enough to reach planing speeds. The design was intended as a small rowing and sailing dinghy and that is probably where it should stay. I'm thinking that one of Scott's Brockway Skiffs could probably be built as a two piece boat that would be more suitable for a big outboard if the right attachment method could be found. It would be heavy though unless built with high tech materials. http://www.yaimkool.com/ http://photobucket.com/images/brockway%20skiff/ You know.. A one piece 12 foot version of that boat can be built under 200 pounds or at least close. A 12 footer can carry 4 folks comfortably with probably 6-800 pounds of gear and supplies. An 8 horse engine will make the thing fly too... -- Rowdy Mouse Racing - Pain is temporary, Glory is forever! Must be a magic boat. My 14.5 foot aluminum boat is rated for just under 900 lbs...... that is three adults and gear here in Canada. 27 mph is "flying" in your neck of the woods? Don't mind the trolls. I have been in Don's rowboat, it's about 3 feet wide with a round bilge and stem..... Ever hear the term, "Apples and Oranges"? Is that so? Maybe Tom will act as the voice of truth here. I say it's about 67" wide with a nice wide transom.... I have, and can again, provide pictures. You've been outted as a bald faced liar Scotty........ no surprise there! http://www.princecraft.com/Content/e.../Yukon-15.aspx How do you drive that thing? There's no steering wheel. -- Ziggy® The way real sailors "drive boats"..... with a tiller (handle tiller in this case) |
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On 12/13/10 11:19 AM, YukonBound wrote: "I am Tosk" wrote in message ... In article , says... In article , says... "I am Tosk" wrote in message ... In article , says... On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 11:02:22 -0500, John H wrote: It wouldn't be that different from launching the present dinghy except for the reassembly. The small section would go in first with the bow painter on it, then tie it off on the stern of the big boat. Next you'd launch the big section with a stern line on it. Next step would be to get into the big section, line it up with the small one and bolt them together. It would be difficult in windy weather but we try to avoid that even now. The important thing is to take lots of pictures and share them with us! You know I'd do that. I'm beginning to have my doubts about the feasability of the "stretch" modification however. Some good points have been raised about the stresses at the attachment point joining the two halves. Growing the boat larger would only make that worse, especially with an outboard big enough to reach planing speeds. The design was intended as a small rowing and sailing dinghy and that is probably where it should stay. I'm thinking that one of Scott's Brockway Skiffs could probably be built as a two piece boat that would be more suitable for a big outboard if the right attachment method could be found. It would be heavy though unless built with high tech materials. http://www.yaimkool.com/ http://photobucket.com/images/brockway%20skiff/ You know.. A one piece 12 foot version of that boat can be built under 200 pounds or at least close. A 12 footer can carry 4 folks comfortably with probably 6-800 pounds of gear and supplies. An 8 horse engine will make the thing fly too... -- Rowdy Mouse Racing - Pain is temporary, Glory is forever! Must be a magic boat. My 14.5 foot aluminum boat is rated for just under 900 lbs...... that is three adults and gear here in Canada. 27 mph is "flying" in your neck of the woods? Don't mind the trolls. I have been in Don's rowboat, it's about 3 feet wide with a round bilge and stem..... Ever hear the term, "Apples and Oranges"? Is that so? Maybe Tom will act as the voice of truth here. I say it's about 67" wide with a nice wide transom.... I have, and can again, provide pictures. You've been outted as a bald faced liar Scotty........ no surprise there! http://www.princecraft.com/Content/e.../Yukon-15.aspx That's really funny...Scotty lying about the measurements of someone else's boat and of course doing it in an insulting way. It's funny because we've all seen photos of some of Scotty's boats and the time and effort he spends "finishing" them with leftover house paint from the "mismatched/out-of-date table" at Home Despot. He keeps them up nicely, too, what with weathered, peeling paint and checked plywood. By the way, some of the best-riding classy small boats have or had round bilges. Methinks Scotty is jealous because his stitch'n'glue technique lends itself to mostly hard chined, flat-bottomed boats, boats that pound in a head sea. See, Scotty - it takes no effort to be as snotty as you are. Are you sure you want to continue down the road to the past? I know your boy(s) Ziggy, CrotchDon, the HarryK spoofer, LG and BAR do...but do you? I suspect that Scoty, being a long time admirer of yours, will follow your lead. -- Ziggy® |
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On 12/13/10 11:49 AM, YukonBound wrote:
"Ziggy®" wrote in message ... "YukonBound" wrote in message ... "I am Tosk" wrote in message ... In article , says... In article , says... "I am Tosk" wrote in message ... In article , says... On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 11:02:22 -0500, John H wrote: It wouldn't be that different from launching the present dinghy except for the reassembly. The small section would go in first with the bow painter on it, then tie it off on the stern of the big boat. Next you'd launch the big section with a stern line on it. Next step would be to get into the big section, line it up with the small one and bolt them together. It would be difficult in windy weather but we try to avoid that even now. The important thing is to take lots of pictures and share them with us! You know I'd do that. I'm beginning to have my doubts about the feasability of the "stretch" modification however. Some good points have been raised about the stresses at the attachment point joining the two halves. Growing the boat larger would only make that worse, especially with an outboard big enough to reach planing speeds. The design was intended as a small rowing and sailing dinghy and that is probably where it should stay. I'm thinking that one of Scott's Brockway Skiffs could probably be built as a two piece boat that would be more suitable for a big outboard if the right attachment method could be found. It would be heavy though unless built with high tech materials. http://www.yaimkool.com/ http://photobucket.com/images/brockway%20skiff/ You know.. A one piece 12 foot version of that boat can be built under 200 pounds or at least close. A 12 footer can carry 4 folks comfortably with probably 6-800 pounds of gear and supplies. An 8 horse engine will make the thing fly too... -- Rowdy Mouse Racing - Pain is temporary, Glory is forever! Must be a magic boat. My 14.5 foot aluminum boat is rated for just under 900 lbs...... that is three adults and gear here in Canada. 27 mph is "flying" in your neck of the woods? Don't mind the trolls. I have been in Don's rowboat, it's about 3 feet wide with a round bilge and stem..... Ever hear the term, "Apples and Oranges"? Is that so? Maybe Tom will act as the voice of truth here. I say it's about 67" wide with a nice wide transom.... I have, and can again, provide pictures. You've been outted as a bald faced liar Scotty........ no surprise there! http://www.princecraft.com/Content/e.../Yukon-15.aspx How do you drive that thing? There's no steering wheel. -- Ziggy® The way real sailors "drive boats"..... with a tiller (handle tiller in this case) Ziggy, like BAR, is boatless and probably tiller-less, too. |
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