Not one boating post since midnight
 

Apparently, there have been a fairly large number of posts since
midnight, but I didn't come across any that were pleasure boat/sport
fishing related. That's really too bad.

Not one boating post since midnight
 

On 12/9/10 11:56 AM, Paul@BYC wrote:
Apparently, there have been a fairly large number of posts since
midnight, but I didn't come across any that were pleasure boat/sport
fishing related. That's really too bad.



There are very few boaters here even when the weather is nice. Plus, if
you take the time to write and post a good post about boating, the
chances are good the aforementioned assholes here will trash it.

Not one boating post since midnight
 

On 12/9/10 11:56 AM, Paul@BYC wrote:
Apparently, there have been a fairly large number of posts since
midnight, but I didn't come across any that were pleasure boat/sport
fishing related. That's really too bad.


Damn one more non boating post. Why do you bother to contribute to the
list of boring non boating post?

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On 12/9/10 12:13 PM, HarryK wrote:
On 12/9/10 11:56 AM, Paul@BYC wrote:
Apparently, there have been a fairly large number of posts since
midnight, but I didn't come across any that were pleasure boat/sport
fishing related. That's really too bad.



There are very few boaters here even when the weather is nice. Plus, if
you take the time to write and post a good post about boating, the
chances are good the aforementioned assholes here will trash it.



Which is the reason I only make posts about my deck, my UPS shipments ,
and subtle and not so subtle name calling.

Not one boating post since midnight
 

In article ,
says...

On 12/9/10 11:56 AM, Paul@BYC wrote:
Apparently, there have been a fairly large number of posts since
midnight, but I didn't come across any that were pleasure boat/sport
fishing related. That's really too bad.



There are very few boaters here even when the weather is nice. Plus, if
you take the time to write and post a good post about boating, the
chances are good the aforementioned assholes here will trash it.

Nice name calling and insulting, I guess you are completely back to you
old, nasty, mean spirited, lying, insulting name calling self, eh? Go
ahead and be the way you were before and the group will respond in kind.

Not one boating post since midnight
 

On Thu, 09 Dec 2010 11:56:21 -0500, "Paul@BYC" wrote:

Apparently, there have been a fairly large number of posts since
midnight, but I didn't come across any that were pleasure boat/sport
fishing related. That's really too bad.

With all the respect that's due, shouldn't your post have been labelled 'OT', or
just not made at all?

LMAO!

Not one boating post since midnight
 

On 12/9/10 2:15 PM, John H wrote:
On Thu, 09 Dec 2010 11:56:21 -0500, wrote:

Apparently, there have been a fairly large number of posts since
midnight, but I didn't come across any that were pleasure boat/sport
fishing related. That's really too bad.

With all the respect that's due, shouldn't your post have been labelled 'OT', or
just not made at all?

LMAO!


He did mention boats and fishing. That's more than most posters here do
these days. Therefore, he was on topic.

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On Thu, 09 Dec 2010 14:33:07 -0500, HarryK
wrote:

On 12/9/10 2:15 PM, John H wrote:
On Thu, 09 Dec 2010 11:56:21 -0500, wrote:

Apparently, there have been a fairly large number of posts since
midnight, but I didn't come across any that were pleasure boat/sport
fishing related. That's really too bad.

With all the respect that's due, shouldn't your post have been labelled 'OT', or
just not made at all?

LMAO!


He did mention boats and fishing. That's more than most posters here do
these days. Therefore, he was on topic.

And it was related to the health and well being of the group which
*should* be a topic of some concern.

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On 12/9/2010 12:58 PM, HarryK wrote:
On 12/9/10 12:13 PM, HarryK wrote:
On 12/9/10 11:56 AM, Paul@BYC wrote:
Apparently, there have been a fairly large number of posts since
midnight, but I didn't come across any that were pleasure boat/sport
fishing related. That's really too bad.



There are very few boaters here even when the weather is nice. Plus, if
you take the time to write and post a good post about boating, the
chances are good the aforementioned assholes here will trash it.



Which is the reason I only make posts about my deck, my UPS shipments ,
and subtle and not so subtle name calling.

Bull****.

I do recall mentioning the boat I just purchased.

Not one boating post since midnight
 

"HarryK" wrote in message ...
On 12/9/2010 12:58 PM, HarryK wrote:
On 12/9/10 12:13 PM, HarryK wrote:
On 12/9/10 11:56 AM, Paul@BYC wrote:
Apparently, there have been a fairly large number of posts since
midnight, but I didn't come across any that were pleasure boat/sport
fishing related. That's really too bad.



There are very few boaters here even when the weather is nice. Plus, if
you take the time to write and post a good post about boating, the
chances are good the aforementioned assholes here will trash it.



Which is the reason I only make posts about my deck, my UPS shipments ,
and subtle and not so subtle name calling.

Bull****.

I do recall mentioning the boat I just purchased.


You really didn't have much to say about it. Wassa matta? Fraid we might critique it? We won't trash it if it isn't trashable.

--
Ziggy®

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"HarryK" wrote in message ...
On 12/9/10 2:15 PM, John H wrote:
On Thu, 09 Dec 2010 11:56:21 -0500, wrote:

Apparently, there have been a fairly large number of posts since
midnight, but I didn't come across any that were pleasure boat/sport
fishing related. That's really too bad.

With all the respect that's due, shouldn't your post have been labelled 'OT', or
just not made at all?

LMAO!


He did mention boats and fishing. That's more than most posters here do
these days. Therefore, he was on topic.


Your L.A. logic is spread mighty thin, eh bozo?

--
Ziggy®

Not one boating post since midnight
 

On 12/9/10 3:35 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 09 Dec 2010 14:33:07 -0500,
wrote:

On 12/9/10 2:15 PM, John H wrote:
On Thu, 09 Dec 2010 11:56:21 -0500, wrote:

Apparently, there have been a fairly large number of posts since
midnight, but I didn't come across any that were pleasure boat/sport
fishing related. That's really too bad.

With all the respect that's due, shouldn't your post have been labelled 'OT', or
just not made at all?

LMAO!


He did mention boats and fishing. That's more than most posters here do
these days. Therefore, he was on topic.

And it was related to the health and well being of the group which
*should* be a topic of some concern.




Not to worry. There's only a handful of active boaters left here. Most
potential newbies who encounter the likes of Ziggy, Crotchrot, the ID
spoofers, LG, BAr, et al, who are not boaters, will simply leave because
the signal-to-noise ratio is so low. The "boys" have been asked to stop.
Even Herring has asked them to stop, but...they cannot. They won't be
happy until they are the only ones here.

Now, just to get back on topic, the bottom of my new boat is still
unpainted. The boat wasn't in the water very long this fall, and only
had a bit of grass here and there, which I removed. I told myself I'd
spend some time this winter investigating anti-fouling bottom paints.
The boat will be hauled at the end of every season, which points me in
one direction for paint, and I want black. My plan is to visit some of
the larger boat yards and see what they are using locally. Beyond that,
any recommendations?

Not one boating post since midnight
 

"HarryK" wrote in message ...
On 12/9/10 3:35 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 09 Dec 2010 14:33:07 -0500,
wrote:

On 12/9/10 2:15 PM, John H wrote:
On Thu, 09 Dec 2010 11:56:21 -0500, wrote:

Apparently, there have been a fairly large number of posts since
midnight, but I didn't come across any that were pleasure boat/sport
fishing related. That's really too bad.

With all the respect that's due, shouldn't your post have been labelled 'OT', or
just not made at all?

LMAO!


He did mention boats and fishing. That's more than most posters here do
these days. Therefore, he was on topic.

And it was related to the health and well being of the group which
*should* be a topic of some concern.




Not to worry. There's only a handful of active boaters left here. Most
potential newbies who encounter the likes of Ziggy, Crotchrot, the ID
spoofers, LG, BAr, et al, who are not boaters, will simply leave because
the signal-to-noise ratio is so low. The "boys" have been asked to stop.
Even Herring has asked them to stop, but...they cannot. They won't be
happy until they are the only ones here.

Now, just to get back on topic, the bottom of my new boat is still
unpainted. The boat wasn't in the water very long this fall, and only
had a bit of grass here and there, which I removed. I told myself I'd
spend some time this winter investigating anti-fouling bottom paints.
The boat will be hauled at the end of every season, which points me in
one direction for paint, and I want black. My plan is to visit some of
the larger boat yards and see what they are using locally. Beyond that,
any recommendations?


Black is a manly color. Although blue would probably match your eyes. Red is for trawlers and sailboats. Green sucks. You could always have a custom color blended if you don't like black or blue. Oh, you might want to choose a multi season hard or semi hard paint.
Hope this helps.

Well **** for brains. You won't listen to anyone without a L.A. degree. Do you really think there is someone here you would take boating advice from? DaPlume, Paul, JPS?

--
Ziggy®

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HarryK wrote:
On 12/9/10 3:35 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 09 Dec 2010 14:33:07 -0500,
wrote:

On 12/9/10 2:15 PM, John H wrote:
On Thu, 09 Dec 2010 11:56:21 -0500,
wrote:

Apparently, there have been a fairly large number of posts since
midnight, but I didn't come across any that were pleasure boat/sport
fishing related. That's really too bad.

With all the respect that's due, shouldn't your post have been
labelled 'OT', or
just not made at all?

LMAO!


He did mention boats and fishing. That's more than most posters here do
these days. Therefore, he was on topic.

And it was related to the health and well being of the group which
*should* be a topic of some concern.




Not to worry. There's only a handful of active boaters left here. Most
potential newbies who encounter the likes of Ziggy, Crotchrot, the ID
spoofers, LG, BAr, et al, who are not boaters, will simply leave
because the signal-to-noise ratio is so low. The "boys" have been
asked to stop. Even Herring has asked them to stop, but...they cannot.
They won't be happy until they are the only ones here.

Now, just to get back on topic, the bottom of my new boat is still
unpainted. The boat wasn't in the water very long this fall, and only
had a bit of grass here and there, which I removed. I told myself I'd
spend some time this winter investigating anti-fouling bottom paints.
The boat will be hauled at the end of every season, which points me in
one direction for paint, and I want black. My plan is to visit some of
the larger boat yards and see what they are using locally. Beyond
that, any recommendations?
I put more hours on my boat in a month than you do in a season, liar.

Not one boating post since midnight
 

On Thu, 09 Dec 2010 16:37:45 -0500, HarryK
wrote:

My plan is to visit some of
the larger boat yards and see what they are using locally. Beyond that,
any recommendations?

There are plenty of good bottom paints offered in black. I've been
using Micron Ultra with fairly good results considering that the boat
is usually in semi tropical water 12 months of the year. We typically
go 2 full years before repainting although it clearly is starting to
lose some effectiveness towards the end. It didn't seem to work that
well in the Caribbean however. We had types of fouling that I'd
never seen before and it grew incredibly quickly.

I'd ask around with some of your local boat yard managers. They
usually have a pretty good idea what works well in your area. In any
case you'll probably want to have a diver clean the bottom every month
or two. It makes a big difference in speed and fuel burn, easily
paying for itself.

http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|10918|296162|11000|311496|368288|586729&id=73825 7

Not one boating post since midnight
 

On 12/9/10 10:16 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 09 Dec 2010 16:37:45 -0500,
wrote:

My plan is to visit some of
the larger boat yards and see what they are using locally. Beyond that,
any recommendations?

There are plenty of good bottom paints offered in black. I've been
using Micron Ultra with fairly good results considering that the boat
is usually in semi tropical water 12 months of the year. We typically
go 2 full years before repainting although it clearly is starting to
lose some effectiveness towards the end. It didn't seem to work that
well in the Caribbean however. We had types of fouling that I'd
never seen before and it grew incredibly quickly.

I'd ask around with some of your local boat yard managers. They
usually have a pretty good idea what works well in your area. In any
case you'll probably want to have a diver clean the bottom every month
or two. It makes a big difference in speed and fuel burn, easily
paying for itself.

http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|10918|296162|11000|311496|368288|586729&id=73825 7



Thanks for the advice. I'll check out the Micron. I like this line in
the description:

"This includes warmer waters with greater land runoff and slime-causing
algae."

I don't know if we have "warmer waters," but we sure have the runoff and
algae.

Not one boating post since midnight
 

On Dec 9, 10:56*am, "Paul@BYC" wrote:
Apparently, there have been a fairly large number of posts since
midnight, but I didn't come across any that were pleasure boat/sport
fishing related. That's really too bad.

Well, post something.

Not one boating post since midnight
 

On 12/10/2010 6:26 AM, HarryK wrote:
On 12/9/10 10:16 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 09 Dec 2010 16:37:45 -0500,
wrote:

My plan is to visit some of
the larger boat yards and see what they are using locally. Beyond that,
any recommendations?

There are plenty of good bottom paints offered in black. I've been
using Micron Ultra with fairly good results considering that the boat
is usually in semi tropical water 12 months of the year. We typically
go 2 full years before repainting although it clearly is starting to
lose some effectiveness towards the end. It didn't seem to work that
well in the Caribbean however. We had types of fouling that I'd
never seen before and it grew incredibly quickly.

I'd ask around with some of your local boat yard managers. They
usually have a pretty good idea what works well in your area. In any
case you'll probably want to have a diver clean the bottom every month
or two. It makes a big difference in speed and fuel burn, easily
paying for itself.

http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|10918|296162|11000|311496|368288|586729&id=73825 7




Thanks for the advice. I'll check out the Micron. I like this line in
the description:

"This includes warmer waters with greater land runoff and slime-causing
algae."

I don't know if we have "warmer waters," but we sure have the runoff and
algae.


I use Petit Horizon in black. It is an ablative bottom coat and seems to
work pretty well. I don't know why I started using it, though. Probably
because some yard manager recommended it. Maybe they had a 500-gallon
barrel of it on hand? :)

Best advice has already been given, and that is to visit some boatyards
and ask questions. Bottom paint is not cheap.

Not one boating post since midnight
 

In article ,
says...

On 12/9/2010 12:58 PM, HarryK wrote:
On 12/9/10 12:13 PM, HarryK wrote:
On 12/9/10 11:56 AM, Paul@BYC wrote:
Apparently, there have been a fairly large number of posts since
midnight, but I didn't come across any that were pleasure boat/sport
fishing related. That's really too bad.



There are very few boaters here even when the weather is nice. Plus, if
you take the time to write and post a good post about boating, the
chances are good the aforementioned assholes here will trash it.



Which is the reason I only make posts about my deck, my UPS shipments ,
and subtle and not so subtle name calling.

Bull****.

I do recall mentioning the boat I just purchased.

Let's see some proof of that! You've been caught in FAR too many lies
for anybody but Don to believe you.

Not one boating post since midnight
 

On 12/10/10 9:08 AM, Harry Scary wrote:
In articlePYCdnV2vlvvV2ZzQnZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@giganews. com,
says...

On 12/9/2010 12:58 PM, HarryK wrote:
On 12/9/10 12:13 PM, HarryK wrote:
On 12/9/10 11:56 AM, Paul@BYC wrote:
Apparently, there have been a fairly large number of posts since
midnight, but I didn't come across any that were pleasure boat/sport
fishing related. That's really too bad.



There are very few boaters here even when the weather is nice. Plus, if
you take the time to write and post a good post about boating, the
chances are good the aforementioned assholes here will trash it.



Which is the reason I only make posts about my deck, my UPS shipments ,
and subtle and not so subtle name calling.

Bull****.

I do recall mentioning the boat I just purchased.

Let's see some proof of that! You've been caught in FAR too many lies
for anybody but Don to believe you.

I posted photos of my Parker, both the big Parker and the little Parker.
I didn't post pictures of my Hatteras, Lobster Boat or my newest boat
because the rec.boats is full of low life right wing assholes.

I don't understand what the big deal is, I did post many photos of my
deck's footings that should have keep the right-wing happy and amused
for a few months.

Not one boating post since midnight
 

"Tim" wrote in message ...
On Dec 9, 10:56 am, "Paul@BYC" wrote:
Apparently, there have been a fairly large number of posts since
midnight, but I didn't come across any that were pleasure boat/sport
fishing related. That's really too bad.

Well, post something.


He's a bit shy. Perhaps he's afraid Harry might critique his writing.

--
Ziggy®

Not one boating post since midnight
 

On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 08:13:09 -0500, "Paul@BYC"
wrote:

On 12/10/2010 6:26 AM, HarryK wrote:
On 12/9/10 10:16 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 09 Dec 2010 16:37:45 -0500,
wrote:

My plan is to visit some of
the larger boat yards and see what they are using locally. Beyond that,
any recommendations?

There are plenty of good bottom paints offered in black. I've been
using Micron Ultra with fairly good results considering that the boat
is usually in semi tropical water 12 months of the year. We typically
go 2 full years before repainting although it clearly is starting to
lose some effectiveness towards the end. It didn't seem to work that
well in the Caribbean however. We had types of fouling that I'd
never seen before and it grew incredibly quickly.

I'd ask around with some of your local boat yard managers. They
usually have a pretty good idea what works well in your area. In any
case you'll probably want to have a diver clean the bottom every month
or two. It makes a big difference in speed and fuel burn, easily
paying for itself.

http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|10918|296162|11000|311496|368288|586729&id=73825 7




Thanks for the advice. I'll check out the Micron. I like this line in
the description:

"This includes warmer waters with greater land runoff and slime-causing
algae."

I don't know if we have "warmer waters," but we sure have the runoff and
algae.


I use Petit Horizon in black. It is an ablative bottom coat and seems to
work pretty well. I don't know why I started using it, though. Probably
because some yard manager recommended it. Maybe they had a 500-gallon
barrel of it on hand? :)

Best advice has already been given, and that is to visit some boatyards
and ask questions. Bottom paint is not cheap.

Unless you're comparing it to the labor cost, then it's pretty
reasonable.

Not one boating post since midnight
 

On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 07:55:28 -0800, jps wrote:

Best advice has already been given, and that is to visit some boatyards
and ask questions. Bottom paint is not cheap.

Unless you're comparing it to the labor cost, then it's pretty
reasonable.

That's exactly right. There are very few boat yards that will allow
you to do your own bottom painting these days because of environmental
regs. When the yard is doing the work, paint is the cheapest part of
the job.

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On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 11:21:20 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 07:55:28 -0800, jps wrote:

Best advice has already been given, and that is to visit some boatyards
and ask questions. Bottom paint is not cheap.

Unless you're comparing it to the labor cost, then it's pretty
reasonable.

That's exactly right. There are very few boat yards that will allow
you to do your own bottom painting these days because of environmental
regs. When the yard is doing the work, paint is the cheapest part of
the job.

And certainly not worth scrimping on, considering the labor cost and
hassle of getting a larger vessel out and back in the water.

Buy the best damned paint money will buy!

Not one boating post since midnight
 

On 12/10/2010 11:21 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 07:55:28 -0800, wrote:

Best advice has already been given, and that is to visit some boatyards
and ask questions. Bottom paint is not cheap.

Unless you're comparing it to the labor cost, then it's pretty
reasonable.

That's exactly right. There are very few boat yards that will allow
you to do your own bottom painting these days because of environmental
regs. When the yard is doing the work, paint is the cheapest part of
the job.


Absolutely correct.

Incidentally, I appreciate your efforts to keep this newsgroup at least
semi on track, but it looks as if there's yet another ID spoofer who has
gone active, and there's nothing that can be done about it. I really
don't have the time to spend more than a few minutes a day "here," and
that means I don't have the time to shovel through the posts of the
ever-changing fake IDerss, the ID spoofers, and the just plain nasties.
The only thing being accomplished is hastening the demise of rec.boats.
Maybe that is their goal.

Not one boating post since midnight
 

On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 06:26:06 -0500, HarryK wrote:

On 12/9/10 10:16 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 09 Dec 2010 16:37:45 -0500,
wrote:

My plan is to visit some of
the larger boat yards and see what they are using locally. Beyond that,
any recommendations?

There are plenty of good bottom paints offered in black. I've been
using Micron Ultra with fairly good results considering that the boat
is usually in semi tropical water 12 months of the year. We typically
go 2 full years before repainting although it clearly is starting to
lose some effectiveness towards the end. It didn't seem to work that
well in the Caribbean however. We had types of fouling that I'd
never seen before and it grew incredibly quickly.

I'd ask around with some of your local boat yard managers. They
usually have a pretty good idea what works well in your area. In any
case you'll probably want to have a diver clean the bottom every month
or two. It makes a big difference in speed and fuel burn, easily
paying for itself.

http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|10918|296162|11000|311496|368288|586729&id=73825 7



Thanks for the advice. I'll check out the Micron. I like this line in
the description:

"This includes warmer waters with greater land runoff and slime-causing
algae."

I don't know if we have "warmer waters," but we sure have the runoff and
algae.

After reading your post, I immediately began searching Google for info on bottom
paints. Most folks said, "Let the professionals do it." That made good sense.
But the post that seemed to make the most sense, in response to the question,
"What kind of paint should I use on my hull?"

The answer, "Waterproof."

Makes sense to me.

Not one boating post since midnight
 

On 12/10/10 12:58 PM, John H wrote:
On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 06:26:06 -0500, wrote:

On 12/9/10 10:16 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 09 Dec 2010 16:37:45 -0500,
wrote:

My plan is to visit some of
the larger boat yards and see what they are using locally. Beyond that,
any recommendations?

There are plenty of good bottom paints offered in black. I've been
using Micron Ultra with fairly good results considering that the boat
is usually in semi tropical water 12 months of the year. We typically
go 2 full years before repainting although it clearly is starting to
lose some effectiveness towards the end. It didn't seem to work that
well in the Caribbean however. We had types of fouling that I'd
never seen before and it grew incredibly quickly.

I'd ask around with some of your local boat yard managers. They
usually have a pretty good idea what works well in your area. In any
case you'll probably want to have a diver clean the bottom every month
or two. It makes a big difference in speed and fuel burn, easily
paying for itself.

http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|10918|296162|11000|311496|368288|586729&id=73825 7



Thanks for the advice. I'll check out the Micron. I like this line in
the description:

"This includes warmer waters with greater land runoff and slime-causing
algae."

I don't know if we have "warmer waters," but we sure have the runoff and
algae.

After reading your post, I immediately began searching Google for info on bottom
paints. Most folks said, "Let the professionals do it." That made good sense.
But the post that seemed to make the most sense, in response to the question,
"What kind of paint should I use on my hull?"

The answer, "Waterproof."

Makes sense to me.


Gee, I wonder how well "waterproof" anti-fouling bottom paint ablates.
Probably as well as WD-40 rust and corrosion proofs the inside of an
engine, eh?

Not one boating post since midnight
 

In article ,
says...

On 12/10/10 12:58 PM, John H wrote:
On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 06:26:06 -0500, wrote:

On 12/9/10 10:16 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 09 Dec 2010 16:37:45 -0500,
wrote:

My plan is to visit some of
the larger boat yards and see what they are using locally. Beyond that,
any recommendations?

There are plenty of good bottom paints offered in black. I've been
using Micron Ultra with fairly good results considering that the boat
is usually in semi tropical water 12 months of the year. We typically
go 2 full years before repainting although it clearly is starting to
lose some effectiveness towards the end. It didn't seem to work that
well in the Caribbean however. We had types of fouling that I'd
never seen before and it grew incredibly quickly.

I'd ask around with some of your local boat yard managers. They
usually have a pretty good idea what works well in your area. In any
case you'll probably want to have a diver clean the bottom every month
or two. It makes a big difference in speed and fuel burn, easily
paying for itself.

http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|10918|296162|11000|311496|368288|586729&id=73825 7



Thanks for the advice. I'll check out the Micron. I like this line in
the description:

"This includes warmer waters with greater land runoff and slime-causing
algae."

I don't know if we have "warmer waters," but we sure have the runoff and
algae.

After reading your post, I immediately began searching Google for info on bottom
paints. Most folks said, "Let the professionals do it." That made good sense.
But the post that seemed to make the most sense, in response to the question,
"What kind of paint should I use on my hull?"

The answer, "Waterproof."

Makes sense to me.


Gee, I wonder how well "waterproof" anti-fouling bottom paint ablates.

Quite well, actually. In the case of WD-40, if you coat everything it
will indeed corrosion proof something. I know you're a liberal arts
major so you should know this, but in order for something to corrode,
there has to be an electrolyte, water or moist air. etc. Take that away,
as with Water Displacement #40 and guess what?

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On 12/10/2010 11:47 AM, Paul@BYC wrote:
On 12/10/2010 11:21 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 07:55:28 -0800, wrote:

Best advice has already been given, and that is to visit some boatyards
and ask questions. Bottom paint is not cheap.

Unless you're comparing it to the labor cost, then it's pretty
reasonable.

That's exactly right. There are very few boat yards that will allow
you to do your own bottom painting these days because of environmental
regs. When the yard is doing the work, paint is the cheapest part of
the job.


Absolutely correct.

Incidentally, I appreciate your efforts to keep this newsgroup at least
semi on track, but it looks as if there's yet another ID spoofer who has
gone active, and there's nothing that can be done about it. I really
don't have the time to spend more than a few minutes a day "here," and
that means I don't have the time to shovel through the posts of the
ever-changing fake IDerss, the ID spoofers, and the just plain nasties.
The only thing being accomplished is hastening the demise of rec.boats.
Maybe that is their goal.


Hell, Paul, I trashed rec.boats years ago.

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On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 13:18:49 -0500, HarryK wrote:

On 12/10/10 12:58 PM, John H wrote:
On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 06:26:06 -0500, wrote:

On 12/9/10 10:16 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 09 Dec 2010 16:37:45 -0500,
wrote:

My plan is to visit some of
the larger boat yards and see what they are using locally. Beyond that,
any recommendations?

There are plenty of good bottom paints offered in black. I've been
using Micron Ultra with fairly good results considering that the boat
is usually in semi tropical water 12 months of the year. We typically
go 2 full years before repainting although it clearly is starting to
lose some effectiveness towards the end. It didn't seem to work that
well in the Caribbean however. We had types of fouling that I'd
never seen before and it grew incredibly quickly.

I'd ask around with some of your local boat yard managers. They
usually have a pretty good idea what works well in your area. In any
case you'll probably want to have a diver clean the bottom every month
or two. It makes a big difference in speed and fuel burn, easily
paying for itself.

http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|10918|296162|11000|311496|368288|586729&id=73825 7



Thanks for the advice. I'll check out the Micron. I like this line in
the description:

"This includes warmer waters with greater land runoff and slime-causing
algae."

I don't know if we have "warmer waters," but we sure have the runoff and
algae.

After reading your post, I immediately began searching Google for info on bottom
paints. Most folks said, "Let the professionals do it." That made good sense.
But the post that seemed to make the most sense, in response to the question,
"What kind of paint should I use on my hull?"

The answer, "Waterproof."

Makes sense to me.


Gee, I wonder how well "waterproof" anti-fouling bottom paint ablates.
Probably as well as WD-40 rust and corrosion proofs the inside of an
engine, eh?

Are you on the rag, or what?

Is humor just too much for you?

No need to reply, Harry.

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On 12/10/10 4:07 PM, John H wrote:
On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 13:18:49 -0500, wrote:

On 12/10/10 12:58 PM, John H wrote:
On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 06:26:06 -0500, wrote:

On 12/9/10 10:16 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 09 Dec 2010 16:37:45 -0500,
wrote:

My plan is to visit some of
the larger boat yards and see what they are using locally. Beyond that,
any recommendations?

There are plenty of good bottom paints offered in black. I've been
using Micron Ultra with fairly good results considering that the boat
is usually in semi tropical water 12 months of the year. We typically
go 2 full years before repainting although it clearly is starting to
lose some effectiveness towards the end. It didn't seem to work that
well in the Caribbean however. We had types of fouling that I'd
never seen before and it grew incredibly quickly.

I'd ask around with some of your local boat yard managers. They
usually have a pretty good idea what works well in your area. In any
case you'll probably want to have a diver clean the bottom every month
or two. It makes a big difference in speed and fuel burn, easily
paying for itself.

http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|10918|296162|11000|311496|368288|586729&id=73825 7



Thanks for the advice. I'll check out the Micron. I like this line in
the description:

"This includes warmer waters with greater land runoff and slime-causing
algae."

I don't know if we have "warmer waters," but we sure have the runoff and
algae.

After reading your post, I immediately began searching Google for info on bottom
paints. Most folks said, "Let the professionals do it." That made good sense.
But the post that seemed to make the most sense, in response to the question,
"What kind of paint should I use on my hull?"

The answer, "Waterproof."

Makes sense to me.


Gee, I wonder how well "waterproof" anti-fouling bottom paint ablates.
Probably as well as WD-40 rust and corrosion proofs the inside of an
engine, eh?

Are you on the rag, or what?

Is humor just too much for you?

No need to reply, Harry.


Glad to reply. Not easy to tell your "humor" from your insulting.

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On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 15:13:38 -0500, HarryK
wrote:

On 12/10/2010 11:47 AM, Paul@BYC wrote:
On 12/10/2010 11:21 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 07:55:28 -0800, wrote:

Best advice has already been given, and that is to visit some boatyards
and ask questions. Bottom paint is not cheap.

Unless you're comparing it to the labor cost, then it's pretty
reasonable.

That's exactly right. There are very few boat yards that will allow
you to do your own bottom painting these days because of environmental
regs. When the yard is doing the work, paint is the cheapest part of
the job.


Absolutely correct.

Incidentally, I appreciate your efforts to keep this newsgroup at least
semi on track, but it looks as if there's yet another ID spoofer who has
gone active, and there's nothing that can be done about it. I really
don't have the time to spend more than a few minutes a day "here," and
that means I don't have the time to shovel through the posts of the
ever-changing fake IDerss, the ID spoofers, and the just plain nasties.
The only thing being accomplished is hastening the demise of rec.boats.
Maybe that is their goal.


Hell, Paul, I trashed rec.boats years ago.

What happened years ago gives you license to act like a pussy today?

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On 12/10/2010 4:49 PM, jps wrote:
On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 15:13:38 -0500,
wrote:

On 12/10/2010 11:47 AM, Paul@BYC wrote:
On 12/10/2010 11:21 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 07:55:28 -0800, wrote:

Best advice has already been given, and that is to visit some boatyards
and ask questions. Bottom paint is not cheap.

Unless you're comparing it to the labor cost, then it's pretty
reasonable.

That's exactly right. There are very few boat yards that will allow
you to do your own bottom painting these days because of environmental
regs. When the yard is doing the work, paint is the cheapest part of
the job.


Absolutely correct.

Incidentally, I appreciate your efforts to keep this newsgroup at least
semi on track, but it looks as if there's yet another ID spoofer who has
gone active, and there's nothing that can be done about it. I really
don't have the time to spend more than a few minutes a day "here," and
that means I don't have the time to shovel through the posts of the
ever-changing fake IDerss, the ID spoofers, and the just plain nasties.
The only thing being accomplished is hastening the demise of rec.boats.
Maybe that is their goal.


Hell, Paul, I trashed rec.boats years ago.

What happened years ago gives you license to act like a pussy today?

Years ago, I challenged a poster to find and post my personal
information. He did. Then my wife started getting telephone calls about
me. It got so bad I had to call the FBI in. Since then I have been
banished to the basement. I have guns.

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HarryK wrote:
On 12/10/10 9:08 AM, Harry Scary wrote:
In articlePYCdnV2vlvvV2ZzQnZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@giganews. com,
says...

On 12/9/2010 12:58 PM, HarryK wrote:
On 12/9/10 12:13 PM, HarryK wrote:
On 12/9/10 11:56 AM, Paul@BYC wrote:
Apparently, there have been a fairly large number of posts since
midnight, but I didn't come across any that were pleasure boat/sport
fishing related. That's really too bad.



There are very few boaters here even when the weather is nice.
Plus, if
you take the time to write and post a good post about boating, the
chances are good the aforementioned assholes here will trash it.



Which is the reason I only make posts about my deck, my UPS
shipments ,
and subtle and not so subtle name calling.

Bull****.

I do recall mentioning the boat I just purchased.

Let's see some proof of that! You've been caught in FAR too many lies
for anybody but Don to believe you.

I posted photos of my Parker, both the big Parker and the little
Parker. I didn't post pictures of my Hatteras, Lobster Boat or my
newest boat because the rec.boats is full of low life right wing
assholes.

I don't understand what the big deal is, I did post many photos of my
deck's footings that should have keep the right-wing happy and amused
for a few months.
You post only what is real. The rest is bull**** and you have a solid
reputation to back that up.

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On 12/10/10 8:35 PM, L G wrote:
HarryK wrote:
On 12/10/10 9:08 AM, Harry Scary wrote:
In articlePYCdnV2vlvvV2ZzQnZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@giganews. com,
says...

On 12/9/2010 12:58 PM, HarryK wrote:
On 12/9/10 12:13 PM, HarryK wrote:
On 12/9/10 11:56 AM, Paul@BYC wrote:
Apparently, there have been a fairly large number of posts since
midnight, but I didn't come across any that were pleasure boat/sport
fishing related. That's really too bad.



There are very few boaters here even when the weather is nice.
Plus, if
you take the time to write and post a good post about boating, the
chances are good the aforementioned assholes here will trash it.



Which is the reason I only make posts about my deck, my UPS
shipments ,
and subtle and not so subtle name calling.

Bull****.

I do recall mentioning the boat I just purchased.

Let's see some proof of that! You've been caught in FAR too many lies
for anybody but Don to believe you.

I posted photos of my Parker, both the big Parker and the little
Parker. I didn't post pictures of my Hatteras, Lobster Boat or my
newest boat because the rec.boats is full of low life right wing
assholes.

I don't understand what the big deal is, I did post many photos of my
deck's footings that should have keep the right-wing happy and amused
for a few months.
You post only what is real. The rest is bull**** and you have a solid
reputation to back that up.


Well, I could post photos of my new boat, I have decided not to. I do
have to tell you, I love having a nice tall flying bridge. I feel like
a real captain. I am thinking about getting a pipe like Popeye's. Toot
Toot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYZH_4yo170

I'm Popeye.

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"Tim" wrote in message
...
On Dec 9, 10:56 am, "Paul@BYC" wrote:
Apparently, there have been a fairly large number of posts since
midnight, but I didn't come across any that were pleasure boat/sport
fishing related. That's really too bad.

Well, post something.

Yes, the Lord knows we can't rely on the spoofers and agitators, with their
legion of aiders & abettors to actually post anything about boating.

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"YukonBound" wrote in message ...


"Tim" wrote in message
...
On Dec 9, 10:56 am, "Paul@BYC" wrote:
Apparently, there have been a fairly large number of posts since
midnight, but I didn't come across any that were pleasure boat/sport
fishing related. That's really too bad.

Well, post something.

Yes, the Lord knows we can't rely on the spoofers and agitators, with their
legion of aiders & abettors to actually post anything about boating.


So true. BTW Do you have a mirror at your abode?

I just had a splendid idea. How about if we invited all of those brainy debaters on rec.boats to have a knock down drag out debate amongst themselves. I'm sure there are enough people with sufficient gray matter to keep Krause and Deplume stimulated in a lively debate. Anybody willing to debate those two?

You can make yourself useful by spreading the word and generating enthusiasm for the debate,

--
Ziggy®

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YukonBound wrote:


"Tim" wrote in message
...
On Dec 9, 10:56 am, "Paul@BYC" wrote:
Apparently, there have been a fairly large number of posts since
midnight, but I didn't come across any that were pleasure boat/sport
fishing related. That's really too bad.

Well, post something.

Yes, the Lord knows we can't rely on the spoofers and agitators, with
their legion of aiders & abettors to actually post anything about
boating.
Or you, dummy with a rowboat.

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In article ,
says...

On 12/9/2010 12:58 PM, HarryK wrote:
On 12/9/10 12:13 PM, HarryK wrote:
On 12/9/10 11:56 AM, Paul@BYC wrote:
Apparently, there have been a fairly large number of posts since
midnight, but I didn't come across any that were pleasure boat/sport
fishing related. That's really too bad.



There are very few boaters here even when the weather is nice. Plus, if
you take the time to write and post a good post about boating, the
chances are good the aforementioned assholes here will trash it.



Which is the reason I only make posts about my deck, my UPS shipments ,
and subtle and not so subtle name calling.

Bull****.

I do recall mentioning the boat I just purchased.

The driveway queen on the trailer with the tires with the flat spots.

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On 12/12/10 11:05 AM, BAR wrote:
In articlePYCdnV2vlvvV2ZzQnZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@giganews. com,
says...

On 12/9/2010 12:58 PM, HarryK wrote:
On 12/9/10 12:13 PM, HarryK wrote:
On 12/9/10 11:56 AM, Paul@BYC wrote:
Apparently, there have been a fairly large number of posts since
midnight, but I didn't come across any that were pleasure boat/sport
fishing related. That's really too bad.



There are very few boaters here even when the weather is nice. Plus, if
you take the time to write and post a good post about boating, the
chances are good the aforementioned assholes here will trash it.



Which is the reason I only make posts about my deck, my UPS shipments ,
and subtle and not so subtle name calling.

Bull****.

I do recall mentioning the boat I just purchased.

The driveway queen on the trailer with the tires with the flat spots.


you must enjoy enabling that fifth grader farter, Bertie. Oh...however
much I use my boat, which, of course, you have no way of knowing, it is
more than you use your boat because...

....you don't have a boat.