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On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 10:34:09 -0800, wrote:

And Obama is coming up on 2 years with no progress.
When we finally leave it is going to still be a **** hole ...
dominated by a stronger Taliban than there is now.
Every innocent person we kill results in dozens of new Taliban
members. Everyone in their extended family.
We have become the Soviets to them.

Two years of no progress because Bush left such a mess. We haven't
become the soviets... we might become them, but not so far.

I don't see any different policies or timetables coming out of this
administration.

Nonsense. Bush had no timetables. None.
He resisted every call for such.
McCain and other R's have castigated Obama for his timetables.
Let Afghanistan fester as he ****ed with Iraq too.
Morons call Afghanistan a 10 year war.
The war only got going after Obama came in.
More casualties in Obama's 2 years than all the Bush years.
Because our boys are fighting now.
There is a timetable and a plan.
A man, a plan, Afghanistan.

It is fun to blame Bush for everything but some ideas
are just fundamentally wrong, no matter who is doing it.

It's only fun when his defenders pipe up, as you do here.

Our man in Kabul is negotiating with the Taliban as we speak so I
think the whole mission was a waste of time.

The "mission" is simply a working government in Afghanistan so we don't
have to re-invade. Easy concept to grasp.
That goal has been repeated ad infinitum.
Your fault if your ears don't work.
Doesn't matter if Taliban is part of the scenery there.

We keep fighting terrorism like it was a central government endeavor.

Nonsense. Yemen and Somalia are also in the crosshairs.
And all stable governments are fighting terrorism.
Even the unstable governments of Somalia and Yemen are doing so.
Why?
To avoid becoming Afghanistan.

There is no central character or even a central organization. We are
fighting an idea and the next attack is as likely to come from
Indonesia or Africa as Afghanistan/Pakistan.

Uh, AQ has been behind every attack. You haven't heard?
You thought it was the Willie Wonka Chocolate Factory carrying out
attacks on the U.S.?
The "idea" you mention isn't an idea.
It's basically "kill Americans" and any innocent who gets in the way of
that.
Pretty easy to defeat compared to real "ideas" that find widespread
support.
Costly, but not even close to that spent against commies and Nazis.