Getting a pontoon boat to plane
On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 15:13:20 -0400, Hairy Crotch wrote:
In article , says... On 11/2/10 2:45 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 07:44:44 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch wrote: Those mods to the pontoons look interesting. Now, if he went to a larger engine and added planing strakes, could he expect better MPG or just higher speed. (fuel flow meters ought to interface with impeller knotmeters to get mpg). If you increase speed without increasing horsepower, mileage will improve. Wayne...I think the guy has "tapped" out on performance with the engine he now has. Why do you think that? Another goodbye. Damn, this is a great way to cut down on the number of posts to read! -- Hope you're having a great day! John H |
Getting a pontoon boat to plane
On Nov 3, 10:27*am, Frogwatch wrote:
On Nov 2, 10:49*pm, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 02 Nov 2010 14:54:42 -0400, HarryK wrote: On 11/2/10 2:45 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 07:44:44 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch *wrote: Those mods to the pontoons look interesting. *Now, if he went to a larger engine and added planing strakes, could he expect better MPG or just higher speed. (fuel flow meters ought to interface with impeller knotmeters to get mpg). If you increase speed without increasing horsepower, mileage will improve. Wayne...I think the guy has "tapped" out on performance with the engine he now has. That may be true but unless they try to get more of it out of the water with lifting strakes or similar, they won't know for sure. *I'd agree that more horsepower is probably easier and cheaper but it certainly won't improve economy under most circumstances - only if it is now operating "on the hump". I believe his pontoons are not big enough for the weight so he should weld planing strakes on the pontoons that are enclosed with extra floatation. *OR, he could resign himself to cruising at 7 kts to save fuel.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Or he could get a boat that was designed to plane. I don't have much sympathy for people that get one thng and then spend a lot of time and money trying to make it work like something else. I don't care what you do to a pontoon, any ordinary go fast boat will blow it away on half the gas. |
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Getting a pontoon boat to plane
On Nov 4, 3:38*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 13:06:23 -0400, HarryK wrote: Or he could get a *boat that was designed to plane. *I don't have much sympathy for people that get one thng and then spend a lot of time and money trying to make it work like something else. *I don't care what you do to a pontoon, any ordinary go fast boat will blow it away on half the gas. I have a pontoon and I agree with you. This is not supposed to be a speed demon. I like mine because it is a very shallow draft boat with lots of deck space and very low maintenance, Most pontooners have a deck full of furniture and end up with a high maintenance boat you can barely walk around in. They then want it to perform like a bass boat so they end up putting huge engines on them. The one that really makes me laugh is they also polish the toons to a mirror like finish. I can't get them to say what percentage of the time they spend using the boat vs working on their boat in the driveway. In that regard, fuel consumption is probably not that big a deal. They only run them 20 or 30 hours a year. That is about a month for me and we are not getting out as much as we used to. The few I have seen out on the river here don't seem to "corner" too quickly...and they seem to need a really wide area while on plane in order to make a tight turn. Or maybe it's just an optical illusion. Mine turns pretty quickly but I don't really go that fast. I assume if you have strakes and a huge motor you could get pretty squirrly in a turn but bass boats can have the same problem. Again, for the 47th time, here's what a properly designed pontoon can do. Mine is like the white one with the red stripe with the two bucket seats up front. :- http://www.pontoons.com/ptx_performa...vantage_video/ |
Getting a pontoon boat to plane
On Nov 4, 8:53*pm, Gene wrote:
On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 17:27:27 -0700 (PDT), Jack wrote: On Nov 4, 3:38*pm, wrote: On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 13:06:23 -0400, HarryK wrote: Or he could get a *boat that was designed to plane. *I don't have much sympathy for people that get one thng and then spend a lot of time and money trying to make it work like something else. *I don't care what you do to a pontoon, any ordinary go fast boat will blow it away on half the gas. I have a pontoon and I agree with you. This is not supposed to be a speed demon. I like mine because it is a very shallow draft boat with lots of deck space and very low maintenance, Most pontooners have a deck full of furniture and end up with a high maintenance boat you can barely walk around in. They then want it to perform like a bass boat so they end up putting huge engines on them. The one that really makes me laugh is they also polish the toons to a mirror like finish. I can't get them to say what percentage of the time they spend using the boat vs working on their boat in the driveway. In that regard, fuel consumption is probably not that big a deal. They only run them 20 or 30 hours a year. That is about a month for me and we are not getting out as much as we used to. The few I have seen out on the river here don't seem to "corner" too quickly...and they seem to need a really wide area while on plane in order to make a tight turn. Or maybe it's just an optical illusion. Mine turns pretty quickly but I don't really go that fast. I assume if you have strakes and a huge motor you could get pretty squirrly in a turn but bass boats can have the same problem. Again, for the 47th time, here's what a properly designed pontoon can do. *Mine is like the white one with the red stripe with the two bucket seats up front. *:- http://www.pontoons.com/ptx_performa...vantage_video/ A rose by any other name.... it is a new take on the old cathedral hull..... Not quite... Have you ever ridden in a Premier? That's like saying every V-hull boat is just like every other V-hull. Which, of course, we all know isn't true. |
Getting a pontoon boat to plane
On 11/4/2010 8:27 PM, Jack wrote:
On Nov 4, 3:38 pm, wrote: On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 13:06:23 -0400, wrote: Or he could get a boat that was designed to plane. I don't have much sympathy for people that get one thng and then spend a lot of time and money trying to make it work like something else. I don't care what you do to a pontoon, any ordinary go fast boat will blow it away on half the gas. I have a pontoon and I agree with you. This is not supposed to be a speed demon. I like mine because it is a very shallow draft boat with lots of deck space and very low maintenance, Most pontooners have a deck full of furniture and end up with a high maintenance boat you can barely walk around in. They then want it to perform like a bass boat so they end up putting huge engines on them. The one that really makes me laugh is they also polish the toons to a mirror like finish. I can't get them to say what percentage of the time they spend using the boat vs working on their boat in the driveway. In that regard, fuel consumption is probably not that big a deal. They only run them 20 or 30 hours a year. That is about a month for me and we are not getting out as much as we used to. The few I have seen out on the river here don't seem to "corner" too quickly...and they seem to need a really wide area while on plane in order to make a tight turn. Or maybe it's just an optical illusion. Mine turns pretty quickly but I don't really go that fast. I assume if you have strakes and a huge motor you could get pretty squirrly in a turn but bass boats can have the same problem. Again, for the 47th time, here's what a properly designed pontoon can do. Mine is like the white one with the red stripe with the two bucket seats up front. :- http://www.pontoons.com/ptx_performa...vantage_video/ I can see the practicality of such a boat, but they sure aren't pretty! :) |
Getting a pontoon boat to plane
On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 17:27:27 -0700 (PDT), Jack wrote:
On Nov 4, 3:38*pm, wrote: On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 13:06:23 -0400, HarryK wrote: Or he could get a *boat that was designed to plane. *I don't have much sympathy for people that get one thng and then spend a lot of time and money trying to make it work like something else. *I don't care what you do to a pontoon, any ordinary go fast boat will blow it away on half the gas. I have a pontoon and I agree with you. This is not supposed to be a speed demon. I like mine because it is a very shallow draft boat with lots of deck space and very low maintenance, Most pontooners have a deck full of furniture and end up with a high maintenance boat you can barely walk around in. They then want it to perform like a bass boat so they end up putting huge engines on them. The one that really makes me laugh is they also polish the toons to a mirror like finish. I can't get them to say what percentage of the time they spend using the boat vs working on their boat in the driveway. In that regard, fuel consumption is probably not that big a deal. They only run them 20 or 30 hours a year. That is about a month for me and we are not getting out as much as we used to. The few I have seen out on the river here don't seem to "corner" too quickly...and they seem to need a really wide area while on plane in order to make a tight turn. Or maybe it's just an optical illusion. Mine turns pretty quickly but I don't really go that fast. I assume if you have strakes and a huge motor you could get pretty squirrly in a turn but bass boats can have the same problem. Again, for the 47th time, here's what a properly designed pontoon can do. Mine is like the white one with the red stripe with the two bucket seats up front. :- http://www.pontoons.com/ptx_performa...vantage_video/ That is a fine looking boat. I'm astonished at the maneuravibility of the thing. It wouldn 't do on the Chesapeake, but it would be great on Lake Anna. -- Hope you're having a great day! John H |
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