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"HarryK" wrote in message ...
On 11/1/10 1:40 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
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On 11/1/2010 12:25 PM, HarryK wrote:
On 11/1/10 12:16 PM, HarryK wrote:
On 11/1/2010 11:14 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
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On 11/1/10 9:10 AM, YukonBound wrote:


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On 10/30/2010 10:35 AM, YukonBound wrote:


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On 10/30/10 8:44 AM, Secular Humouresque wrote:
On 10/29/2010 8:08 PM, Secular Humouresque wrote:
On 10/29/10 7:40 PM, I am Tosk wrote:


It doesn't take long for the slime to out itself here. It's
really
too
bad, because it looks like many posters are trying. That
obviously
annoys the ID spoofers; they prefer a pig pen.

...remembering why the spoofers came in the first place.

Indeed, they came here because they don't have boats, they
couldn't
compete in the arena of ideas, and they wanted to be noticed
and
see
how
much crap they could create. You think they had some impact on
me...but
they didn't, and they never would.

You sure do get noticed when you use an ID like, well, Secular
Humouresque.

It has great impact. No, not on me, of course not. I meant, I
have a
great impact, with my ID.


Yet another example from an ID spoofing poster who cannot keep
his
pants zipped in here.

Might be time for those 'in the know' to expose these spoofers
in the
interests of group harmony.

Agreed. You first.

I've shared my 'educated guesses' numerous times.



Time to go back to St.Mary's to get re-educated?

--
H

Nice that you are so interested in my education.
Here's the school I went to for my 1st ten years (primary to grade 9).
Shot from the playgrounds...smaller kids above, bigger kids below.
Looks the same except for the new windows and the tree. No tree when I
went there.
....and yes... it was no place for Florida Cupcakes.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...d/IMG_0108.jpg

These boys cannot change their stripes, Don. Why bother giving them a
response to anything?

Don has continued the name calling too..


I'm working on him, OK?


Just as I predicted, the ID spoofers have no intention of behaving here,
as evidence by the "I'm working on him, OK?" post immediately above.

There's really no hope for this newsgroup, not when it is "inhabited" by
juvenile delinquents.



I think you are right, and I'm thinking about just giving up on this as
a place to post about and read about boats in an atmosphere of
fellowship, good will and relaxation.

There's no question that these "ID spoofers" as you call them want
nothing more than the complete destruction of this newsgroup. Perhaps if
their actual identifies were posted here, they'd have an incentive to
leave.

Sounds like you may need a more structured arena, this is google groups,
and part of the beauty of usenet is the freedom to speak anonymously
without fear of retribution... Outing someones real id is just a way to
stifle free speech and intimidate. It's the same as stalking or
threatening someones family in my opinon...


The ability to speak anonymously without fear of retribution falls flat
when the anonymous speakers are doing harm with nothing more than spite
as their motivator. With free speech comes responsibility.

I agree with Paul. The spoofers want to destroy rec.boats and will not
stop until they do. By giving them slack, you are supporting them.


There you go getting everyone wound up. Some things never change.

--
H

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On 11/1/10 3:12 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In , says...

On 11/1/10 2:45 PM, I am Tosk wrote:

Outing folks has been a tactic used to silence folks here for over a
decade, some posters have been outed and stalked right off the group,
including women Paul.


Sounds like a great way to get rid of the ID spoofers and others who are
not willing to play by the reasonable rules now in effect by majority
agreement here.

You Harry, of all here know exactly how I feel about outing anybody. You
and I have both been in bitter wars and not given addresses or numbers
out (and we had each others all along), and I don't intend to start now.

Noted that several of you think I know who the spoofer is. Let me be
clear, I think I do, I have little more proof than you except that when
I queried one poster I talk to off list, he didn't deny it... But that's
all I got. And if I do find out, see above...




In the navy
Yes, you can sail the seven seas
In the navy
Yes, you can put your mind at ease
In the navy
Come on now, people, make a stand
In the navy, in the navy
Can't you see we need a hand
In the navy

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"Paul@BYC" wrote in message ...
On 11/1/2010 1:00 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On 11/1/2010 12:16 PM, HarryK wrote:
On 11/1/2010 11:14 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On 11/1/10 9:10 AM, YukonBound wrote:


wrote in message
...
wrote in message
...


"Secular wrote in message
...
On 10/30/2010 10:35 AM, YukonBound wrote:


"Secular wrote in message
...
On 10/30/10 8:44 AM, Secular Humouresque wrote:
On 10/29/2010 8:08 PM, Secular Humouresque wrote:
On 10/29/10 7:40 PM, I am Tosk wrote:


It doesn't take long for the slime to out itself here. It's
really
too
bad, because it looks like many posters are trying. That
obviously
annoys the ID spoofers; they prefer a pig pen.

...remembering why the spoofers came in the first place.

Indeed, they came here because they don't have boats, they
couldn't
compete in the arena of ideas, and they wanted to be noticed and
see
how
much crap they could create. You think they had some impact on
me...but
they didn't, and they never would.

You sure do get noticed when you use an ID like, well, Secular
Humouresque.

It has great impact. No, not on me, of course not. I meant, I
have a
great impact, with my ID.


Yet another example from an ID spoofing poster who cannot keep his
pants zipped in here.

Might be time for those 'in the know' to expose these spoofers
in the
interests of group harmony.

Agreed. You first.

I've shared my 'educated guesses' numerous times.



Time to go back to St.Mary's to get re-educated?

--
H

Nice that you are so interested in my education.
Here's the school I went to for my 1st ten years (primary to grade 9).
Shot from the playgrounds...smaller kids above, bigger kids below.
Looks the same except for the new windows and the tree. No tree when I
went there.
....and yes... it was no place for Florida Cupcakes.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...d/IMG_0108.jpg

These boys cannot change their stripes, Don. Why bother giving them a
response to anything?

Don has continued the name calling too..


I'm working on him, OK?


I see from a post from the "actual HarryK" that you are one of the jerks
who spoof IDS.

Why don't you find another newsgroup to ruin and let this one recover?

I guess I responded to him too, I don't really look at headers, thought
that guy might have given up by now.


I'm going to give this "joint" a few more days, maybe until the end of
the week. If the "ID Spoofers" don't stop, I'll just move on down the road.

It's easy enough to block those posters who are using a unique name and
are posting nothing but off topic or insulting nonsense but it isn't so
easy to block the ID Spoofers, which is probably what they like about it.

One of the spoofers, who was posting as Harry claimed he changed his
user name here to Ziggy and that he would stop spoofing Harry. Well,
he's back to ID spoofing Harry again.

It's too bad there's no way to control these fools. In junior high,
where they belong, a teacher could get them expelled.






Ziggy is a man of his word. His former handle has been retired. For now at least.

--
H

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On 11/1/2010 12:36 PM, Paul@BYC wrote:
On 11/1/2010 12:16 PM, HarryK wrote:
On 11/1/2010 11:14 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On 11/1/10 9:10 AM, YukonBound wrote:


wrote in message
...
wrote in message
...


"Secular wrote in message
...
On 10/30/2010 10:35 AM, YukonBound wrote:


"Secular wrote in message
...
On 10/30/10 8:44 AM, Secular Humouresque wrote:
On 10/29/2010 8:08 PM, Secular Humouresque wrote:
On 10/29/10 7:40 PM, I am Tosk wrote:


It doesn't take long for the slime to out itself here. It's
really
too
bad, because it looks like many posters are trying. That
obviously
annoys the ID spoofers; they prefer a pig pen.

...remembering why the spoofers came in the first place.

Indeed, they came here because they don't have boats, they
couldn't
compete in the arena of ideas, and they wanted to be noticed
and
see
how
much crap they could create. You think they had some impact on
me...but
they didn't, and they never would.

You sure do get noticed when you use an ID like, well, Secular
Humouresque.

It has great impact. No, not on me, of course not. I meant, I
have a
great impact, with my ID.


Yet another example from an ID spoofing poster who cannot keep
his
pants zipped in here.

Might be time for those 'in the know' to expose these spoofers
in the
interests of group harmony.

Agreed. You first.

I've shared my 'educated guesses' numerous times.



Time to go back to St.Mary's to get re-educated?

--
H

Nice that you are so interested in my education.
Here's the school I went to for my 1st ten years (primary to grade 9).
Shot from the playgrounds...smaller kids above, bigger kids below.
Looks the same except for the new windows and the tree. No tree when I
went there.
....and yes... it was no place for Florida Cupcakes.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...d/IMG_0108.jpg

These boys cannot change their stripes, Don. Why bother giving them a
response to anything?

Don has continued the name calling too..


I'm working on him, OK?


I see from a post from the "actual HarryK" that you are one of the jerks
who spoof IDS.

Why don't you find another newsgroup to ruin and let this one recover?



No.

You're new and incredibly naive. You wield the selective standard so
many before you have tried.

*PLONK*

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On 11/1/2010 1:10 PM, Paul@BYC wrote:
On 11/1/2010 1:00 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On 11/1/2010 12:16 PM, HarryK wrote:
On 11/1/2010 11:14 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On 11/1/10 9:10 AM, YukonBound wrote:


wrote in message
...
wrote in message
...


"Secular wrote in message
...
On 10/30/2010 10:35 AM, YukonBound wrote:


"Secular wrote in message
...
On 10/30/10 8:44 AM, Secular Humouresque wrote:
On 10/29/2010 8:08 PM, Secular Humouresque wrote:
On 10/29/10 7:40 PM, I am Tosk wrote:


It doesn't take long for the slime to out itself here. It's
really
too
bad, because it looks like many posters are trying. That
obviously
annoys the ID spoofers; they prefer a pig pen.

...remembering why the spoofers came in the first place.

Indeed, they came here because they don't have boats, they
couldn't
compete in the arena of ideas, and they wanted to be
noticed and
see
how
much crap they could create. You think they had some
impact on
me...but
they didn't, and they never would.

You sure do get noticed when you use an ID like, well, Secular
Humouresque.

It has great impact. No, not on me, of course not. I meant, I
have a
great impact, with my ID.


Yet another example from an ID spoofing poster who cannot
keep his
pants zipped in here.

Might be time for those 'in the know' to expose these spoofers
in the
interests of group harmony.

Agreed. You first.

I've shared my 'educated guesses' numerous times.



Time to go back to St.Mary's to get re-educated?

--
H

Nice that you are so interested in my education.
Here's the school I went to for my 1st ten years (primary to
grade 9).
Shot from the playgrounds...smaller kids above, bigger kids below.
Looks the same except for the new windows and the tree. No tree
when I
went there.
....and yes... it was no place for Florida Cupcakes.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...d/IMG_0108.jpg

These boys cannot change their stripes, Don. Why bother giving them a
response to anything?

Don has continued the name calling too..


I'm working on him, OK?


I see from a post from the "actual HarryK" that you are one of the jerks
who spoof IDS.

Why don't you find another newsgroup to ruin and let this one recover?

I guess I responded to him too, I don't really look at headers, thought
that guy might have given up by now.


I'm going to give this "joint" a few more days, maybe until the end of
the week. If the "ID Spoofers" don't stop, I'll just move on down the road.

It's easy enough to block those posters who are using a unique name and
are posting nothing but off topic or insulting nonsense but it isn't so
easy to block the ID Spoofers, which is probably what they like about it.

One of the spoofers, who was posting as Harry claimed he changed his
user name here to Ziggy and that he would stop spoofing Harry. Well,
he's back to ID spoofing Harry again.

It's too bad there's no way to control these fools. In junior high,
where they belong, a teacher could get them expelled.

Great! See you Saturday.

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On 11/1/2010 1:48 PM, HarryK wrote:
On 11/1/10 1:40 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On 11/1/2010 12:25 PM, HarryK wrote:
On 11/1/10 12:16 PM, HarryK wrote:
On 11/1/2010 11:14 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On 11/1/10 9:10 AM, YukonBound wrote:


wrote in message
...
wrote in message
...


"Secular wrote in message
...
On 10/30/2010 10:35 AM, YukonBound wrote:


"Secular wrote in message
...
On 10/30/10 8:44 AM, Secular Humouresque wrote:
On 10/29/2010 8:08 PM, Secular Humouresque wrote:
On 10/29/10 7:40 PM, I am Tosk wrote:


It doesn't take long for the slime to out itself here.
It's
really
too
bad, because it looks like many posters are trying. That
obviously
annoys the ID spoofers; they prefer a pig pen.

...remembering why the spoofers came in the first place.

Indeed, they came here because they don't have boats, they
couldn't
compete in the arena of ideas, and they wanted to be noticed
and
see
how
much crap they could create. You think they had some
impact on
me...but
they didn't, and they never would.

You sure do get noticed when you use an ID like, well,
Secular
Humouresque.

It has great impact. No, not on me, of course not. I meant, I
have a
great impact, with my ID.


Yet another example from an ID spoofing poster who cannot keep
his
pants zipped in here.

Might be time for those 'in the know' to expose these spoofers
in the
interests of group harmony.

Agreed. You first.

I've shared my 'educated guesses' numerous times.



Time to go back to St.Mary's to get re-educated?

--
H

Nice that you are so interested in my education.
Here's the school I went to for my 1st ten years (primary to
grade 9).
Shot from the playgrounds...smaller kids above, bigger kids below.
Looks the same except for the new windows and the tree. No tree
when I
went there.
....and yes... it was no place for Florida Cupcakes.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...d/IMG_0108.jpg

These boys cannot change their stripes, Don. Why bother giving
them a
response to anything?

Don has continued the name calling too..


I'm working on him, OK?


Just as I predicted, the ID spoofers have no intention of behaving
here,
as evidence by the "I'm working on him, OK?" post immediately above.

There's really no hope for this newsgroup, not when it is
"inhabited" by
juvenile delinquents.



I think you are right, and I'm thinking about just giving up on this as
a place to post about and read about boats in an atmosphere of
fellowship, good will and relaxation.

There's no question that these "ID spoofers" as you call them want
nothing more than the complete destruction of this newsgroup. Perhaps if
their actual identifies were posted here, they'd have an incentive to
leave.

Sounds like you may need a more structured arena, this is google groups,
and part of the beauty of usenet is the freedom to speak anonymously
without fear of retribution... Outing someones real id is just a way to
stifle free speech and intimidate. It's the same as stalking or
threatening someones family in my opinon...


The ability to speak anonymously without fear of retribution falls flat
when the anonymous speakers are doing harm with nothing more than spite
as their motivator. With free speech comes responsibility.

I agree with Paul. The spoofers want to destroy rec.boats and will not
stop until they do. By giving them slack, you are supporting them.

Nope, not looking to destroy rec.boats. You did that already, many times
over.

But you want people to believe otherwise... You're on your best behavior
now for that new guy.

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On 11/1/2010 2:26 PM, Paul@BYC wrote:

who cannot control themselves

You actually believe this, or is it part of your shtick to try to cower
people?

I certainly hope it's the latter.

What is worse
 

On 11/1/2010 7:25 PM, HarryK wrote:
On 11/1/2010 2:26 PM, Paul@BYC wrote:

who cannot control themselves

You actually believe this, or is it part of your shtick to try to cower
people?

I certainly hope it's the latter.


Well, you can't control yourself, Mr. ID Spoofer.
IT's too bad you think so little of the other posters here.

What is worse
 

On 11/1/2010 8:12 PM, Paul@BYC wrote:

IT's too bad you think so little of the other posters here.

I think very little of some posters here, Paul, those right-wing
Konservative Kristians who are the ID spoofers. George Bush voters,
every last one of them.

What is worse
 

On 11/2/10 7:54 AM, HarryK wrote:
On 11/1/2010 8:12 PM, Paul@BYC wrote:

IT's too bad you think so little of the other posters here.

I think very little of some posters here, Paul, those right-wing
Konservative Kristians who are the ID spoofers. George Bush voters,
every last one of them.




Ahhh, even more evidence of Tosk's efforts to "clean up" rec.boats...the
ID Spoofer who doesn't give a rat's ass about this newsgroup is posting
again.

Good job, Tosk.