What is worse
 

On 11/1/2010 12:16 PM, HarryK wrote:
On 11/1/2010 11:14 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On 11/1/10 9:10 AM, YukonBound wrote:


wrote in message
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wrote in message
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"Secular wrote in message
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On 10/30/2010 10:35 AM, YukonBound wrote:


"Secular wrote in message
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On 10/30/10 8:44 AM, Secular Humouresque wrote:
On 10/29/2010 8:08 PM, Secular Humouresque wrote:
On 10/29/10 7:40 PM, I am Tosk wrote:


It doesn't take long for the slime to out itself here. It's
really
too
bad, because it looks like many posters are trying. That
obviously
annoys the ID spoofers; they prefer a pig pen.

...remembering why the spoofers came in the first place.

Indeed, they came here because they don't have boats, they
couldn't
compete in the arena of ideas, and they wanted to be noticed and
see
how
much crap they could create. You think they had some impact on
me...but
they didn't, and they never would.

You sure do get noticed when you use an ID like, well, Secular
Humouresque.

It has great impact. No, not on me, of course not. I meant, I
have a
great impact, with my ID.


Yet another example from an ID spoofing poster who cannot keep his
pants zipped in here.

Might be time for those 'in the know' to expose these spoofers
in the
interests of group harmony.

Agreed. You first.

I've shared my 'educated guesses' numerous times.



Time to go back to St.Mary's to get re-educated?

--
H

Nice that you are so interested in my education.
Here's the school I went to for my 1st ten years (primary to grade 9).
Shot from the playgrounds...smaller kids above, bigger kids below.
Looks the same except for the new windows and the tree. No tree when I
went there.
....and yes... it was no place for Florida Cupcakes.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...d/IMG_0108.jpg

These boys cannot change their stripes, Don. Why bother giving them a
response to anything?

Don has continued the name calling too..


I'm working on him, OK?


I see from a post from the "actual HarryK" that you are one of the jerks
who spoof IDS.

Why don't you find another newsgroup to ruin and let this one recover?

What is worse
 

On 11/1/2010 12:25 PM, HarryK wrote:
On 11/1/10 12:16 PM, HarryK wrote:
On 11/1/2010 11:14 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On 11/1/10 9:10 AM, YukonBound wrote:


wrote in message
...
wrote in message
...


"Secular wrote in message
...
On 10/30/2010 10:35 AM, YukonBound wrote:


"Secular wrote in message
...
On 10/30/10 8:44 AM, Secular Humouresque wrote:
On 10/29/2010 8:08 PM, Secular Humouresque wrote:
On 10/29/10 7:40 PM, I am Tosk wrote:


It doesn't take long for the slime to out itself here. It's
really
too
bad, because it looks like many posters are trying. That
obviously
annoys the ID spoofers; they prefer a pig pen.

...remembering why the spoofers came in the first place.

Indeed, they came here because they don't have boats, they
couldn't
compete in the arena of ideas, and they wanted to be noticed
and
see
how
much crap they could create. You think they had some impact on
me...but
they didn't, and they never would.

You sure do get noticed when you use an ID like, well, Secular
Humouresque.

It has great impact. No, not on me, of course not. I meant, I
have a
great impact, with my ID.


Yet another example from an ID spoofing poster who cannot keep
his
pants zipped in here.

Might be time for those 'in the know' to expose these spoofers
in the
interests of group harmony.

Agreed. You first.

I've shared my 'educated guesses' numerous times.



Time to go back to St.Mary's to get re-educated?

--
H

Nice that you are so interested in my education.
Here's the school I went to for my 1st ten years (primary to grade 9).
Shot from the playgrounds...smaller kids above, bigger kids below.
Looks the same except for the new windows and the tree. No tree when I
went there.
....and yes... it was no place for Florida Cupcakes.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...d/IMG_0108.jpg

These boys cannot change their stripes, Don. Why bother giving them a
response to anything?

Don has continued the name calling too..


I'm working on him, OK?


Just as I predicted, the ID spoofers have no intention of behaving here,
as evidence by the "I'm working on him, OK?" post immediately above.

There's really no hope for this newsgroup, not when it is "inhabited" by
juvenile delinquents.



I think you are right, and I'm thinking about just giving up on this as
a place to post about and read about boats in an atmosphere of
fellowship, good will and relaxation.

There's no question that these "ID spoofers" as you call them want
nothing more than the complete destruction of this newsgroup. Perhaps if
their actual identifies were posted here, they'd have an incentive to
leave.

What is worse
 

On 11/1/10 12:52 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In articleCtudndat5tR1elPRnZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@giganews. com,
says...

On 11/1/2010 11:14 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On 11/1/10 9:10 AM, YukonBound wrote:


wrote in message
...
wrote in message
...


"Secular wrote in message
...
On 10/30/2010 10:35 AM, YukonBound wrote:


"Secular wrote in message
...
On 10/30/10 8:44 AM, Secular Humouresque wrote:
On 10/29/2010 8:08 PM, Secular Humouresque wrote:
On 10/29/10 7:40 PM, I am Tosk wrote:


It doesn't take long for the slime to out itself here. It's
really
too
bad, because it looks like many posters are trying. That
obviously
annoys the ID spoofers; they prefer a pig pen.

...remembering why the spoofers came in the first place.

Indeed, they came here because they don't have boats, they couldn't
compete in the arena of ideas, and they wanted to be noticed and
see
how
much crap they could create. You think they had some impact on
me...but
they didn't, and they never would.

You sure do get noticed when you use an ID like, well, Secular
Humouresque.

It has great impact. No, not on me, of course not. I meant, I have a
great impact, with my ID.


Yet another example from an ID spoofing poster who cannot keep his
pants zipped in here.

Might be time for those 'in the know' to expose these spoofers in the
interests of group harmony.

Agreed. You first.

I've shared my 'educated guesses' numerous times.



Time to go back to St.Mary's to get re-educated?

--
H

Nice that you are so interested in my education.
Here's the school I went to for my 1st ten years (primary to grade 9).
Shot from the playgrounds...smaller kids above, bigger kids below.
Looks the same except for the new windows and the tree. No tree when I
went there.
....and yes... it was no place for Florida Cupcakes.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...d/IMG_0108.jpg

These boys cannot change their stripes, Don. Why bother giving them a
response to anything?

Don has continued the name calling too..


I'm working on him, OK?

Well, let us know how it goes, I got tired of waiting.



You are responding to the ID Spoofer...he's active again, just as predicted.

Too bad. This newsgroup will never recover.

What is worse
 

On 11/1/2010 1:00 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On 11/1/2010 12:16 PM, HarryK wrote:
On 11/1/2010 11:14 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On 11/1/10 9:10 AM, YukonBound wrote:


wrote in message
...
wrote in message
...


"Secular wrote in message
...
On 10/30/2010 10:35 AM, YukonBound wrote:


"Secular wrote in message
...
On 10/30/10 8:44 AM, Secular Humouresque wrote:
On 10/29/2010 8:08 PM, Secular Humouresque wrote:
On 10/29/10 7:40 PM, I am Tosk wrote:


It doesn't take long for the slime to out itself here. It's
really
too
bad, because it looks like many posters are trying. That
obviously
annoys the ID spoofers; they prefer a pig pen.

...remembering why the spoofers came in the first place.

Indeed, they came here because they don't have boats, they
couldn't
compete in the arena of ideas, and they wanted to be noticed and
see
how
much crap they could create. You think they had some impact on
me...but
they didn't, and they never would.

You sure do get noticed when you use an ID like, well, Secular
Humouresque.

It has great impact. No, not on me, of course not. I meant, I
have a
great impact, with my ID.


Yet another example from an ID spoofing poster who cannot keep his
pants zipped in here.

Might be time for those 'in the know' to expose these spoofers
in the
interests of group harmony.

Agreed. You first.

I've shared my 'educated guesses' numerous times.



Time to go back to St.Mary's to get re-educated?

--
H

Nice that you are so interested in my education.
Here's the school I went to for my 1st ten years (primary to grade 9).
Shot from the playgrounds...smaller kids above, bigger kids below.
Looks the same except for the new windows and the tree. No tree when I
went there.
....and yes... it was no place for Florida Cupcakes.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...d/IMG_0108.jpg

These boys cannot change their stripes, Don. Why bother giving them a
response to anything?

Don has continued the name calling too..


I'm working on him, OK?


I see from a post from the "actual HarryK" that you are one of the jerks
who spoof IDS.

Why don't you find another newsgroup to ruin and let this one recover?

I guess I responded to him too, I don't really look at headers, thought
that guy might have given up by now.


I'm going to give this "joint" a few more days, maybe until the end of
the week. If the "ID Spoofers" don't stop, I'll just move on down the road.

It's easy enough to block those posters who are using a unique name and
are posting nothing but off topic or insulting nonsense but it isn't so
easy to block the ID Spoofers, which is probably what they like about it.

One of the spoofers, who was posting as Harry claimed he changed his
user name here to Ziggy and that he would stop spoofing Harry. Well,
he's back to ID spoofing Harry again.

It's too bad there's no way to control these fools. In junior high,
where they belong, a teacher could get them expelled.

What is worse
 

On 11/1/10 1:40 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On 11/1/2010 12:25 PM, HarryK wrote:
On 11/1/10 12:16 PM, HarryK wrote:
On 11/1/2010 11:14 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On 11/1/10 9:10 AM, YukonBound wrote:


wrote in message
...
wrote in message
...


"Secular wrote in message
...
On 10/30/2010 10:35 AM, YukonBound wrote:


"Secular wrote in message
...
On 10/30/10 8:44 AM, Secular Humouresque wrote:
On 10/29/2010 8:08 PM, Secular Humouresque wrote:
On 10/29/10 7:40 PM, I am Tosk wrote:


It doesn't take long for the slime to out itself here. It's
really
too
bad, because it looks like many posters are trying. That
obviously
annoys the ID spoofers; they prefer a pig pen.

...remembering why the spoofers came in the first place.

Indeed, they came here because they don't have boats, they
couldn't
compete in the arena of ideas, and they wanted to be noticed
and
see
how
much crap they could create. You think they had some impact on
me...but
they didn't, and they never would.

You sure do get noticed when you use an ID like, well, Secular
Humouresque.

It has great impact. No, not on me, of course not. I meant, I
have a
great impact, with my ID.


Yet another example from an ID spoofing poster who cannot keep
his
pants zipped in here.

Might be time for those 'in the know' to expose these spoofers
in the
interests of group harmony.

Agreed. You first.

I've shared my 'educated guesses' numerous times.



Time to go back to St.Mary's to get re-educated?

--
H

Nice that you are so interested in my education.
Here's the school I went to for my 1st ten years (primary to grade 9).
Shot from the playgrounds...smaller kids above, bigger kids below.
Looks the same except for the new windows and the tree. No tree when I
went there.
....and yes... it was no place for Florida Cupcakes.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...d/IMG_0108.jpg

These boys cannot change their stripes, Don. Why bother giving them a
response to anything?

Don has continued the name calling too..


I'm working on him, OK?


Just as I predicted, the ID spoofers have no intention of behaving here,
as evidence by the "I'm working on him, OK?" post immediately above.

There's really no hope for this newsgroup, not when it is "inhabited" by
juvenile delinquents.



I think you are right, and I'm thinking about just giving up on this as
a place to post about and read about boats in an atmosphere of
fellowship, good will and relaxation.

There's no question that these "ID spoofers" as you call them want
nothing more than the complete destruction of this newsgroup. Perhaps if
their actual identifies were posted here, they'd have an incentive to
leave.

Sounds like you may need a more structured arena, this is google groups,
and part of the beauty of usenet is the freedom to speak anonymously
without fear of retribution... Outing someones real id is just a way to
stifle free speech and intimidate. It's the same as stalking or
threatening someones family in my opinon...


The ability to speak anonymously without fear of retribution falls flat
when the anonymous speakers are doing harm with nothing more than spite
as their motivator. With free speech comes responsibility.

I agree with Paul. The spoofers want to destroy rec.boats and will not
stop until they do. By giving them slack, you are supporting them.

What is worse
 

On 11/1/2010 1:40 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...


I think you are right, and I'm thinking about just giving up on this as
a place to post about and read about boats in an atmosphere of
fellowship, good will and relaxation.

There's no question that these "ID spoofers" as you call them want
nothing more than the complete destruction of this newsgroup. Perhaps if
their actual identifies were posted here, they'd have an incentive to
leave.

Sounds like you may need a more structured arena, this is google groups,
and part of the beauty of usenet is the freedom to speak anonymously
without fear of retribution... Outing someones real id is just a way to
stifle free speech and intimidate. It's the same as stalking or
threatening someones family in my opinon...

I don't see any group advantage to allowing a few slobs to assume the
identities of other posters or to insult other posters while hiding
behind a cloak of anonymity. The stalking, as it were, is being done by
those spoofers and insulters who cannot control themselves and behave.
In the circumstances under discussion, free speech is not the issue.

What is worse
 

"HarryK" wrote in message
...
On 11/1/10 12:52 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In articleCtudndat5tR1elPRnZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@giganews. com,
says...

On 11/1/2010 11:14 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On 11/1/10 9:10 AM, YukonBound wrote:


wrote in message
...
wrote in message
...


"Secular wrote in message
...
On 10/30/2010 10:35 AM, YukonBound wrote:


"Secular wrote in message
...
On 10/30/10 8:44 AM, Secular Humouresque wrote:
On 10/29/2010 8:08 PM, Secular Humouresque wrote:
On 10/29/10 7:40 PM, I am Tosk wrote:


It doesn't take long for the slime to out itself here. It's
really
too
bad, because it looks like many posters are trying. That
obviously
annoys the ID spoofers; they prefer a pig pen.

...remembering why the spoofers came in the first place.

Indeed, they came here because they don't have boats, they
couldn't
compete in the arena of ideas, and they wanted to be noticed
and
see
how
much crap they could create. You think they had some impact on
me...but
they didn't, and they never would.

You sure do get noticed when you use an ID like, well, Secular
Humouresque.

It has great impact. No, not on me, of course not. I meant, I
have a
great impact, with my ID.


Yet another example from an ID spoofing poster who cannot keep
his
pants zipped in here.

Might be time for those 'in the know' to expose these spoofers in
the
interests of group harmony.

Agreed. You first.

I've shared my 'educated guesses' numerous times.



Time to go back to St.Mary's to get re-educated?

--
H

Nice that you are so interested in my education.
Here's the school I went to for my 1st ten years (primary to grade
9).
Shot from the playgrounds...smaller kids above, bigger kids below.
Looks the same except for the new windows and the tree. No tree when
I
went there.
....and yes... it was no place for Florida Cupcakes.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...d/IMG_0108.jpg

These boys cannot change their stripes, Don. Why bother giving them a
response to anything?

Don has continued the name calling too..


I'm working on him, OK?

Well, let us know how it goes, I got tired of waiting.



You are responding to the ID Spoofer...he's active again, just as
predicted.

Too bad. This newsgroup will never recover.

Not when we have enablers, such as Tosk/JustWait, supporting and defending
the spoofers.

What is worse
 

On 11/1/10 2:45 PM, I am Tosk wrote:

Outing folks has been a tactic used to silence folks here for over a
decade, some posters have been outed and stalked right off the group,
including women Paul.


Sounds like a great way to get rid of the ID spoofers and others who are
not willing to play by the reasonable rules now in effect by majority
agreement here.

What is worse
 

On 11/1/2010 2:45 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On 11/1/2010 1:40 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...


I think you are right, and I'm thinking about just giving up on this as
a place to post about and read about boats in an atmosphere of
fellowship, good will and relaxation.

There's no question that these "ID spoofers" as you call them want
nothing more than the complete destruction of this newsgroup. Perhaps if
their actual identifies were posted here, they'd have an incentive to
leave.

Sounds like you may need a more structured arena, this is google groups,
and part of the beauty of usenet is the freedom to speak anonymously
without fear of retribution... Outing someones real id is just a way to
stifle free speech and intimidate. It's the same as stalking or
threatening someones family in my opinon...

I don't see any group advantage to allowing a few slobs to assume the
identities of other posters or to insult other posters while hiding
behind a cloak of anonymity. The stalking, as it were, is being done by
those spoofers and insulters who cannot control themselves and behave.
In the circumstances under discussion, free speech is not the issue.

Outing folks has been a tactic used to silence folks here for over a
decade, some posters have been outed and stalked right off the group,
including women Paul. Sorry, it's a sensitive matter here... Either way,
you seem to be looking for some kind of Utopia that is very rare on
Usenet. What you fail to understand O great "Sage of Zoar", is in
comparison, what we have here IS Utopia!

You should know that at one time this was actually a boating group, and
one of the most active on all of Google. I doubt it was ever 100%
perfect and folks did fine way back then without kill files or
sophisticated readers, they just ignored the bs the way Tim does.

Maybe you are spoiled by always being the guy with the grade book;)
((((note the smiley face which you should interpret as "just kidding,
just kidding")))) I still say, this is about as good as you can ask
for in a Google group. Put on the big boy shoes and step up, post
something we can all talk about...

I'm a principled guy, and see no reason to give slack to those whose
only goal is to disrupt.

What is worse
 

"YukonBound" wrote in message ...


"Ziggy®" wrote in message
...
"YukonBound" wrote in message
...


"Secular Humouresque" wrote in message
...
On 10/30/2010 10:35 AM, YukonBound wrote:


"Secular Humouresque" wrote in message
...
On 10/30/10 8:44 AM, Secular Humouresque wrote:
On 10/29/2010 8:08 PM, Secular Humouresque wrote:
On 10/29/10 7:40 PM, I am Tosk wrote:


It doesn't take long for the slime to out itself here. It's really
too
bad, because it looks like many posters are trying. That obviously
annoys the ID spoofers; they prefer a pig pen.

...remembering why the spoofers came in the first place.

Indeed, they came here because they don't have boats, they couldn't
compete in the arena of ideas, and they wanted to be noticed and see
how
much crap they could create. You think they had some impact on
me...but
they didn't, and they never would.

You sure do get noticed when you use an ID like, well, Secular
Humouresque.

It has great impact. No, not on me, of course not. I meant, I have a
great impact, with my ID.


Yet another example from an ID spoofing poster who cannot keep his
pants zipped in here.

Might be time for those 'in the know' to expose these spoofers in the
interests of group harmony.

Agreed. You first.

I've shared my 'educated guesses' numerous times.



Time to go back to St.Mary's to get re-educated?

--
H

That you, FlaJim?


I answer to Ziggy.

--
H