On 8/14/10 10:24 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 08:13:55 -0400, wrote:



How about you get no more than 3 months of unemployment period.

since there are 5 applicants for every job, how is this going to help

again and again the right penalizes the middle class. we bankroll the
rich with bailouts, then the right comes along and says the middle
class is lazy.


How about unemployment benefits that are no greater than minimum wage in
your local area.

Nobody owes you a job.

more of the right wing bull****...we socialize risk for the rich, then
privatize rewards for the rich and the middle class pays for both



Get off your ass and get to work.

more right wing bull**** mytholoogy

where are the jobs? notice he doesnt ask THAT question?

the right has their bull**** mythology. and it's centered around the
idea that the US should be a prison camp for the middle class


Well, you could apply for BAR's job. Anyone could, as the job
requirements are minimal. Well, maybe Little Man Tosk couldn't...



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On 8/14/10 10:24 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 08:13:55 -0400, wrote:



How about you get no more than 3 months of unemployment period.

since there are 5 applicants for every job, how is this going to help

again and again the right penalizes the middle class. we bankroll the
rich with bailouts, then the right comes along and says the middle
class is lazy.


How about unemployment benefits that are no greater than minimum wage in
your local area.

Nobody owes you a job.

more of the right wing bull****...we socialize risk for the rich, then
privatize rewards for the rich and the middle class pays for both



Get off your ass and get to work.

more right wing bull**** mytholoogy

where are the jobs? notice he doesnt ask THAT question?

the right has their bull**** mythology. and it's centered around the
idea that the US should be a prison camp for the middle class


Well, you could apply for BAR's job. Anyone could, as the job requirements
are minimal. Well, maybe Little Man Tosk couldn't...



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a post is attributed to me, and it isn't from a Mac, it's from an ID
spoofer who hasn't the balls to post with his own ID.


Anyone with half a brain can tell you are a spoofer. You can't write and you
are stuck on stupid. ESAD

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On 8/14/10 11:53 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 10:24:02 -0400, wrote:

How about you get no more than 3 months of unemployment period.

since there are 5 applicants for every job, how is this going to help

My wife just got cold called to go sell road signs for $70,000 a year
plus expenses and benefits so some people can still find work.
The kid she mentored up from a $10/hr handyman is now working for a
gate company making $50k with benefits.
That may not sound like much money up north or in California but it is
good for SW Florida.
There are still opportunities out there. You just need to expand your
horizons. The job you used top have may be gone but that doesn't mean
all jobs are gone. The gate kid has an accounting degree and a
business degree but he found there is more money in fixing gates. It
beats working in a car wash, where he was when my wife first hired
him.


So you *agree* that unemployment benefits should be reduced to three
months because there are plenty of good jobs available, eh? Or are you
just presenting one of your famous contrarian views?

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I'm the real Harry, and I post from a Mac, as virtually everyone knows.
If a post is attributed to me, and it isn't from a Mac, it's from an ID
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On 8/14/10 1:21 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 8/14/2010 8:53 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 10:24:02 -0400, wrote:

How about you get no more than 3 months of unemployment period.

since there are 5 applicants for every job, how is this going to help

My wife just got cold called to go sell road signs for $70,000 a year
plus expenses and benefits so some people can still find work.
The kid she mentored up from a $10/hr handyman is now working for a
gate company making $50k with benefits.
That may not sound like much money up north or in California but it is
good for SW Florida.
There are still opportunities out there. You just need to expand your
horizons. The job you used top have may be gone but that doesn't mean
all jobs are gone. The gate kid has an accounting degree and a
business degree but he found there is more money in fixing gates. It
beats working in a car wash, where he was when my wife first hired
him.

I think you are right, but you are not giving the full impact of the
quality of jobs. There are always jobs at minimum wage, must have car, 4
hours a day 50 miles away.

But they must be livable jobs. Which there is but for a very few skill
sets and huge decrease in wages.

While I do feel for the middle class pillaging going on, they have to
stop vooting for idiots liek Obama that have $1.6 billion of debt spend
for corrupt banks and corrupt business but none for the middle class.

People need to ask what Obama and the democrats has done for the middle
class backbone of USA?... And the answer is not pretty.



You think that old fart and his crazy, simple-minded running mate would
be doing better? We'd be in a "Great Depression" right now, not a Bush
Recession.

We need to bury the concept that we should "protect" the wealthy because
someday we'll be rich and when we are, we'll want to enjoy all the
benefits of being wealthy.

We need to rebuild our social safety nets so that when economic or
medical disaster devastate families, we don't simply discard them on the
side of the road.

The sort of "capitalism" we now have in the United States will only make
the rich richer.

**** the rich.


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I'm the real Harry, and I post from a Mac, as virtually everyone knows.
If a post is attributed to me, and it isn't from a Mac, it's from an ID
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On 8/14/10 12:43 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 12:01:29 -0400,
wrote:

On 8/14/10 11:53 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 10:24:02 -0400, wrote:

How about you get no more than 3 months of unemployment period.

since there are 5 applicants for every job, how is this going to help

My wife just got cold called to go sell road signs for $70,000 a year
plus expenses and benefits so some people can still find work.
The kid she mentored up from a $10/hr handyman is now working for a
gate company making $50k with benefits.
That may not sound like much money up north or in California but it is
good for SW Florida.
There are still opportunities out there. You just need to expand your
horizons. The job you used top have may be gone but that doesn't mean
all jobs are gone. The gate kid has an accounting degree and a
business degree but he found there is more money in fixing gates. It
beats working in a car wash, where he was when my wife first hired
him.


So you *agree* that unemployment benefits should be reduced to three
months because there are plenty of good jobs available, eh? Or are you
just presenting one of your famous contrarian views?

Probably just the latter ;-)

I would support changing the rules to say that the recipient shows
some evidence that they are looking for work and that they would
accept a change in career, perhaps to the point that they show some
effort to learn another trade. When I knew the computer business as I
knew it was gone I started learning something that wasn't (in my case
I got an electrical inspector's license).

It is stupid to keep paying money to a guy who is sitting home waiting
for the buggie whip plant to reopen.


In more civilized countries, when a job for which you have trained or
educated yourself disappears or you are injured to the point you can't
work your trade, the government sends you back to school to learn a
newer trade, and helps you support your family in the meantime.

One of my Norwegian buddies used to work on the oil rigs. He suffered a
serious injury and could no longer do the work. The government paid for
his retraining into another profession, and it wasn't flipping burgers.

We need to restructure our society.




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On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 10:24:02 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

How about you get no more than 3 months of unemployment period.
since there are 5 applicants for every job, how is this going to help

My wife just got cold called to go sell road signs for $70,000 a year
plus expenses and benefits so some people can still find work.

Sure she did. And I just got a cold call offering me a great
opportunity to sell phone booth services to local merchants.
Get a cut out of every call too.
Worth maybe $150k a year he said, if I hustle and I pick the right areas
with heavy pay phone traffic.
Like her I turned the offer down.
You know what they call job offers from cold callers?
Bull****.
Oh wait. You mean the cold caller found work. I get it now.

Jim - Be wary of Greeks bearing gifts.

On 8/14/2010 8:53 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 10:24:02 -0400, wrote:

How about you get no more than 3 months of unemployment period.

since there are 5 applicants for every job, how is this going to help

My wife just got cold called to go sell road signs for $70,000 a year
plus expenses and benefits so some people can still find work.
The kid she mentored up from a $10/hr handyman is now working for a
gate company making $50k with benefits.
That may not sound like much money up north or in California but it is
good for SW Florida.
There are still opportunities out there. You just need to expand your
horizons. The job you used top have may be gone but that doesn't mean
all jobs are gone. The gate kid has an accounting degree and a
business degree but he found there is more money in fixing gates. It
beats working in a car wash, where he was when my wife first hired
him.

I think you are right, but you are not giving the full impact of the
quality of jobs. There are always jobs at minimum wage, must have car,
4 hours a day 50 miles away.

But they must be livable jobs. Which there is but for a very few skill
sets and huge decrease in wages.

While I do feel for the middle class pillaging going on, they have to
stop vooting for idiots liek Obama that have $1.6 billion of debt spend
for corrupt banks and corrupt business but none for the middle class.

People need to ask what Obama and the democrats has done for the middle
class backbone of USA?... And the answer is not pretty.

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Is government working for you, or are you working for the government?

"Harry" wrote in message
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On 8/14/10 1:21 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 8/14/2010 8:53 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 10:24:02 -0400, wrote:

How about you get no more than 3 months of unemployment period.

since there are 5 applicants for every job, how is this going to help

My wife just got cold called to go sell road signs for $70,000 a year
plus expenses and benefits so some people can still find work.
The kid she mentored up from a $10/hr handyman is now working for a
gate company making $50k with benefits.
That may not sound like much money up north or in California but it is
good for SW Florida.
There are still opportunities out there. You just need to expand your
horizons. The job you used top have may be gone but that doesn't mean
all jobs are gone. The gate kid has an accounting degree and a
business degree but he found there is more money in fixing gates. It
beats working in a car wash, where he was when my wife first hired
him.

I think you are right, but you are not giving the full impact of the
quality of jobs. There are always jobs at minimum wage, must have car, 4
hours a day 50 miles away.

But they must be livable jobs. Which there is but for a very few skill
sets and huge decrease in wages.

While I do feel for the middle class pillaging going on, they have to
stop vooting for idiots liek Obama that have $1.6 billion of debt spend
for corrupt banks and corrupt business but none for the middle class.

People need to ask what Obama and the democrats has done for the middle
class backbone of USA?... And the answer is not pretty.



You think that old fart and his crazy, simple-minded running mate would be
doing better? We'd be in a "Great Depression" right now, not a Bush
Recession.

We need to bury the concept that we should "protect" the wealthy because
someday we'll be rich and when we are, we'll want to enjoy all the
benefits of being wealthy.

We need to rebuild our social safety nets so that when economic or medical
disaster devastate families, we don't simply discard them on the side of
the road.

The sort of "capitalism" we now have in the United States will only make
the rich richer.

**** the rich.


--
I'm the real Harry, and I post from a Mac, as virtually everyone knows. If
a post is attributed to me, and it isn't from a Mac, it's from an ID
spoofer who hasn't the balls to post with his own ID.


What I mean is........... **** everyone except me.

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If a post is attributed to me, and it isn't from a Mac, it's from an ID
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On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 12:01:29 -0400, Harry
wrote:

On 8/14/10 11:53 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 10:24:02 -0400, wrote:

How about you get no more than 3 months of unemployment period.

since there are 5 applicants for every job, how is this going to help

My wife just got cold called to go sell road signs for $70,000 a year
plus expenses and benefits so some people can still find work.
The kid she mentored up from a $10/hr handyman is now working for a
gate company making $50k with benefits.
That may not sound like much money up north or in California but it is
good for SW Florida.
There are still opportunities out there. You just need to expand your
horizons. The job you used top have may be gone but that doesn't mean
all jobs are gone. The gate kid has an accounting degree and a
business degree but he found there is more money in fixing gates. It
beats working in a car wash, where he was when my wife first hired
him.


So you *agree* that unemployment benefits should be reduced to three
months because there are plenty of good jobs available, eh? Or are you
just presenting one of your famous contrarian views?

Probably just the latter ;-)

I would support changing the rules to say that the recipient shows
some evidence that they are looking for work and that they would
accept a change in career, perhaps to the point that they show some
effort to learn another trade. When I knew the computer business as I
knew it was gone I started learning something that wasn't (in my case
I got an electrical inspector's license).

It is stupid to keep paying money to a guy who is sitting home waiting
for the buggie whip plant to reopen.


Like Govt Motors? I agree

--
I'm the real Harry, and I post from a Mac, as virtually everyone knows.
If a post is attributed to me, and it isn't from a Mac, it's from an ID
spoofer who hasn't the balls to post with his own ID.

On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 11:53:19 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 10:24:02 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

How about you get no more than 3 months of unemployment period.

since there are 5 applicants for every job, how is this going to help

My wife just got cold called to go sell road signs for $70,000 a year
plus expenses and benefits so some people can still find work.
The kid she mentored up from a $10/hr handyman is now working for a
gate company making $50k with benefits.
That may not sound like much money up north or in California but it is
good for SW Florida.
There are still opportunities out there. You just need to expand your
horizons

actually there aren't. since there are 5 applicants for every job,
it's ridiculous to pretend there are jobs out there.

there aren't. if there were people would be filling them. people want
to work.

denial of the obvious is a fact of life for the right wing