On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 08:13:55 -0400, BAR wrote:



How about you get no more than 3 months of unemployment period.

since there are 5 applicants for every job, how is this going to help

again and again the right penalizes the middle class. we bankroll the
rich with bailouts, then the right comes along and says the middle
class is lazy.


How about unemployment benefits that are no greater than minimum wage in
your local area.

Nobody owes you a job.

more of the right wing bull****...we socialize risk for the rich, then
privatize rewards for the rich and the middle class pays for both



Get off your ass and get to work.

more right wing bull**** mytholoogy

where are the jobs? notice he doesnt ask THAT question?

the right has their bull**** mythology. and it's centered around the
idea that the US should be a prison camp for the middle class

On 8/14/10 10:24 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 08:13:55 -0400, wrote:



How about you get no more than 3 months of unemployment period.

since there are 5 applicants for every job, how is this going to help

again and again the right penalizes the middle class. we bankroll the
rich with bailouts, then the right comes along and says the middle
class is lazy.


How about unemployment benefits that are no greater than minimum wage in
your local area.

Nobody owes you a job.

more of the right wing bull****...we socialize risk for the rich, then
privatize rewards for the rich and the middle class pays for both



Get off your ass and get to work.

more right wing bull**** mytholoogy

where are the jobs? notice he doesnt ask THAT question?

the right has their bull**** mythology. and it's centered around the
idea that the US should be a prison camp for the middle class


Well, you could apply for BAR's job. Anyone could, as the job
requirements are minimal. Well, maybe Little Man Tosk couldn't...



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On 8/14/10 10:24 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 08:13:55 -0400, wrote:



How about you get no more than 3 months of unemployment period.

since there are 5 applicants for every job, how is this going to help

again and again the right penalizes the middle class. we bankroll the
rich with bailouts, then the right comes along and says the middle
class is lazy.


How about unemployment benefits that are no greater than minimum wage in
your local area.

Nobody owes you a job.

more of the right wing bull****...we socialize risk for the rich, then
privatize rewards for the rich and the middle class pays for both



Get off your ass and get to work.

more right wing bull**** mytholoogy

where are the jobs? notice he doesnt ask THAT question?

the right has their bull**** mythology. and it's centered around the
idea that the US should be a prison camp for the middle class


Well, you could apply for BAR's job. Anyone could, as the job requirements
are minimal. Well, maybe Little Man Tosk couldn't...



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I'm the real Harry, and I post from a Mac, as virtually everyone knows. If
a post is attributed to me, and it isn't from a Mac, it's from an ID
spoofer who hasn't the balls to post with his own ID.


Anyone with half a brain can tell you are a spoofer. You can't write and you
are stuck on stupid. ESAD

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On 8/14/10 10:24 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 08:13:55 -0400, wrote:



How about you get no more than 3 months of unemployment period.

since there are 5 applicants for every job, how is this going to help

again and again the right penalizes the middle class. we bankroll the
rich with bailouts, then the right comes along and says the middle
class is lazy.


How about unemployment benefits that are no greater than minimum wage in
your local area.

Nobody owes you a job.

more of the right wing bull****...we socialize risk for the rich, then
privatize rewards for the rich and the middle class pays for both



Get off your ass and get to work.

more right wing bull**** mytholoogy

where are the jobs? notice he doesnt ask THAT question?

the right has their bull**** mythology. and it's centered around the
idea that the US should be a prison camp for the middle class


Well, you could apply for BAR's job. Anyone could, as the job
requirements are minimal. Well, maybe Little Man Tosk couldn't...

Spoofer alert! I don't even have a job.

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On 8/14/10 11:53 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 10:24:02 -0400, wrote:

How about you get no more than 3 months of unemployment period.

since there are 5 applicants for every job, how is this going to help

My wife just got cold called to go sell road signs for $70,000 a year
plus expenses and benefits so some people can still find work.
The kid she mentored up from a $10/hr handyman is now working for a
gate company making $50k with benefits.
That may not sound like much money up north or in California but it is
good for SW Florida.
There are still opportunities out there. You just need to expand your
horizons. The job you used top have may be gone but that doesn't mean
all jobs are gone. The gate kid has an accounting degree and a
business degree but he found there is more money in fixing gates. It
beats working in a car wash, where he was when my wife first hired
him.


So you *agree* that unemployment benefits should be reduced to three
months because there are plenty of good jobs available, eh? Or are you
just presenting one of your famous contrarian views?

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On 8/14/10 12:43 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 12:01:29 -0400,
wrote:

On 8/14/10 11:53 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 10:24:02 -0400, wrote:

How about you get no more than 3 months of unemployment period.

since there are 5 applicants for every job, how is this going to help

My wife just got cold called to go sell road signs for $70,000 a year
plus expenses and benefits so some people can still find work.
The kid she mentored up from a $10/hr handyman is now working for a
gate company making $50k with benefits.
That may not sound like much money up north or in California but it is
good for SW Florida.
There are still opportunities out there. You just need to expand your
horizons. The job you used top have may be gone but that doesn't mean
all jobs are gone. The gate kid has an accounting degree and a
business degree but he found there is more money in fixing gates. It
beats working in a car wash, where he was when my wife first hired
him.


So you *agree* that unemployment benefits should be reduced to three
months because there are plenty of good jobs available, eh? Or are you
just presenting one of your famous contrarian views?

Probably just the latter ;-)

I would support changing the rules to say that the recipient shows
some evidence that they are looking for work and that they would
accept a change in career, perhaps to the point that they show some
effort to learn another trade. When I knew the computer business as I
knew it was gone I started learning something that wasn't (in my case
I got an electrical inspector's license).

It is stupid to keep paying money to a guy who is sitting home waiting
for the buggie whip plant to reopen.


In more civilized countries, when a job for which you have trained or
educated yourself disappears or you are injured to the point you can't
work your trade, the government sends you back to school to learn a
newer trade, and helps you support your family in the meantime.

One of my Norwegian buddies used to work on the oil rigs. He suffered a
serious injury and could no longer do the work. The government paid for
his retraining into another profession, and it wasn't flipping burgers.

We need to restructure our society.




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On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 12:51:16 -0400, Harry
wrote:



In more civilized countries, when a job for which you have trained or
educated yourself disappears or you are injured to the point you can't
work your trade, the government sends you back to school to learn a
newer trade, and helps you support your family in the meantime.

One of my Norwegian buddies used to work on the oil rigs. He suffered a
serious injury and could no longer do the work. The government paid for
his retraining into another profession, and it wasn't flipping burgers.

We need to restructure our society.

damn straight. the right wing in this country hates the middle class,
and thinks we're lazy, so would NEVER support this.

but it works.

On 8/14/10 2:05 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 12:51:16 -0400,
wrote:

It is stupid to keep paying money to a guy who is sitting home waiting
for the buggie whip plant to reopen.


In more civilized countries, when a job for which you have trained or
educated yourself disappears or you are injured to the point you can't
work your trade, the government sends you back to school to learn a
newer trade, and helps you support your family in the meantime.


The problem with the federal government doing that is, by the time you
got the bureaucracy in place, the job you were training for might be
obsolete and the government would make so many of those tradesmen that
job market would be flooded.
They can't seem to do anything on a small scale and most of the money
ends up going into the pockets of a few special interests with big
lobbying budgets.
I heard the other day that lobbyists pump 1.3 million dollars a
legislative minute into our congress. (based on the number of hours
congress is in session)

The problem with the large-scale private sector is that it is
multinational and doesn't give a damn about the United States or
Americans. We need a major restructuring of our society, including any
tax laws that in any way encourage corporations to send jobs overseas.

We also need to step up our support of free trade unions for workers
overseas in slave or near slave labor countries. We have to have a world
in which there is no place for exploitative corporations to hide.





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On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 14:19:46 -0400, Harry
wrote:

On 8/14/10 2:05 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 12:51:16 -0400,
wrote:

It is stupid to keep paying money to a guy who is sitting home waiting
for the buggie whip plant to reopen.


In more civilized countries, when a job for which you have trained or
educated yourself disappears or you are injured to the point you can't
work your trade, the government sends you back to school to learn a
newer trade, and helps you support your family in the meantime.


The problem with the federal government doing that is, by the time you
got the bureaucracy in place, the job you were training for might be
obsolete and the government would make so many of those tradesmen that
job market would be flooded.
They can't seem to do anything on a small scale and most of the money
ends up going into the pockets of a few special interests with big
lobbying budgets.
I heard the other day that lobbyists pump 1.3 million dollars a
legislative minute into our congress. (based on the number of hours
congress is in session)

The problem with the large-scale private sector is that it is
multinational and doesn't give a damn about the United States or
Americans. We need a major restructuring of our society, including any
tax laws that in any way encourage corporations to send jobs overseas.

We also need to step up our support of free trade unions for workers
overseas in slave or near slave labor countries. We have to have a world
in which there is no place for exploitative corporations to hide.


You would have to start with Government Motors. They took some of our
bailout money and started up a research department in China with it.



That was Bush's fault.

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If a post is attributed to me, and it isn't from a Mac, it's from an ID
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On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 12:51:16 -0400, Harry
wrote:

It is stupid to keep paying money to a guy who is sitting home waiting
for the buggie whip plant to reopen.


In more civilized countries, when a job for which you have trained or
educated yourself disappears or you are injured to the point you can't
work your trade, the government sends you back to school to learn a
newer trade, and helps you support your family in the meantime.


The problem with the federal government doing that is, by the time you
got the bureaucracy in place, the job you were training for might be
obsolete and the government would make so many of those tradesmen that
job market would be flooded.
They can't seem to do anything on a small scale and most of the money
ends up going into the pockets of a few special interests with big
lobbying budgets.
I heard the other day that lobbyists pump 1.3 million dollars a
legislative minute into our congress. (based on the number of hours
congress is in session)

Harry just demostrates that the entitlement mentality is alive and well
in our society.