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[email protected] August 11th 10 09:45 PM

Which Trailer Connector to Use?
 
I am re-wiring the trailer. I need to decide which trailer connector
(4-, 5-, 6- or 7-pole) to use. The trailer has a surge brake that is
a disc brake. The minimum requirements for the new wiring are to do
these:
Left turn signal
Right turn signal
Running lights (marker and clearance)
Brake signal
Disengage the disc brake when the car is in reverse

Optionally I would like to be able to do this:
Power an electric winch

Which trailer connector do I need to match the minimum requirement?
Which trailer connector do I need to also match the optional
requirement?

I am under the impression that as a minimum, I should use 5-pole flat
connector and use the 5-th wire to connect to the reverse circuit in
my car in order to disengage the disc brake when the car is in
reverse. But there is one thing that I don't understand: The 5-th
wire (the blue one) is supposed to be for brake. Does this mean that
I don't have any more brake light if I use the 5-th wire for reverse?
Is that 5-th wire for "electric" brake that is irrelevant to me and is
OK to use it for reverse?

If I really want to use the electric powered winch, I need to go for 6-
pole or 7-pole trailer connector, right?

Sorry if these questions are too basic. I am very surprised that I
cannot find any info about these when I "google" or "wiki". May be I
didn't use the correct key words.

By the way, my car is a 2008 Highlander that can handle up to 5000-
lbs. And my boat is 18-ft fiberglass center console weight around
2300-lbs. I am not sure if these info are relevant or not.

Thanks for any info in advance.

Jay Chan

Harry (I post with a Mac, check the headers for ID spoofers who don't) August 11th 10 09:59 PM

Which Trailer Connector to Use?
 
On 8/11/10 4:45 PM, wrote:
I am re-wiring the trailer. I need to decide which trailer connector
(4-, 5-, 6- or 7-pole) to use. The trailer has a surge brake that is
a disc brake. The minimum requirements for the new wiring are to do
these:
Left turn signal
Right turn signal
Running lights (marker and clearance)
Brake signal
Disengage the disc brake when the car is in reverse

Optionally I would like to be able to do this:
Power an electric winch

Which trailer connector do I need to match the minimum requirement?
Which trailer connector do I need to also match the optional
requirement?

I am under the impression that as a minimum, I should use 5-pole flat
connector and use the 5-th wire to connect to the reverse circuit in
my car in order to disengage the disc brake when the car is in
reverse. But there is one thing that I don't understand: The 5-th
wire (the blue one) is supposed to be for brake. Does this mean that
I don't have any more brake light if I use the 5-th wire for reverse?
Is that 5-th wire for "electric" brake that is irrelevant to me and is
OK to use it for reverse?

If I really want to use the electric powered winch, I need to go for 6-
pole or 7-pole trailer connector, right?

Sorry if these questions are too basic. I am very surprised that I
cannot find any info about these when I "google" or "wiki". May be I
didn't use the correct key words.

By the way, my car is a 2008 Highlander that can handle up to 5000-
lbs. And my boat is 18-ft fiberglass center console weight around
2300-lbs. I am not sure if these info are relevant or not.

Thanks for any info in advance.

Jay Chan


I'll be glad to jump in here, especially since I've never had a boat
trailer with a power winch.

I've looked at several power winch/trailer setups at the local boat
ramp. When I had a 25' trailer boat, the possibility of an electric
winch intrigued me. It seems to be that the winch was hooked up to its
own plug at the back of the vehicle, and not to the trailer lights plug.
I don't see how the typical trailer lights plug could handle the amperage.

Be careful with that 5000-pound capacity. Is that 2300 pounds the total
for your boat sans engine, gas, batteries, gear? You probably have a
400-pound outboard. Gas is roughly 6.5 pounds a gallon. Batteries are 50
pounds each. And your trailer probably weighs at least 1,000 pounds.
You're damned close to the limit for your vehicles.


Harry[_5_] August 11th 10 09:59 PM

Which Trailer Connector to Use?
 
wrote in message
...
I am re-wiring the trailer. I need to decide which trailer connector
(4-, 5-, 6- or 7-pole) to use. The trailer has a surge brake that is
a disc brake. The minimum requirements for the new wiring are to do
these:
Left turn signal
Right turn signal
Running lights (marker and clearance)
Brake signal
Disengage the disc brake when the car is in reverse

Optionally I would like to be able to do this:
Power an electric winch

Which trailer connector do I need to match the minimum requirement?
Which trailer connector do I need to also match the optional
requirement?

I am under the impression that as a minimum, I should use 5-pole flat
connector and use the 5-th wire to connect to the reverse circuit in
my car in order to disengage the disc brake when the car is in
reverse. But there is one thing that I don't understand: The 5-th
wire (the blue one) is supposed to be for brake. Does this mean that
I don't have any more brake light if I use the 5-th wire for reverse?
Is that 5-th wire for "electric" brake that is irrelevant to me and is
OK to use it for reverse?

If I really want to use the electric powered winch, I need to go for 6-
pole or 7-pole trailer connector, right?

Sorry if these questions are too basic. I am very surprised that I
cannot find any info about these when I "google" or "wiki". May be I
didn't use the correct key words.

By the way, my car is a 2008 Highlander that can handle up to 5000-
lbs. And my boat is 18-ft fiberglass center console weight around
2300-lbs. I am not sure if these info are relevant or not.

Thanks for any info in advance.

Jay Chan



You can use a 5 pin plug. The blue wire can be hooked to your back up lights
and power a hydraulic shutoff solenoid on your surge brake.

championtrailer.com should be able to hook you up with parts and
instructions.

--
The OBAMA motto: We've got what it takes, to take what you've got!


Harry (I post with a Mac, check the headers for ID spoofers who don't) August 11th 10 10:03 PM

Which Trailer Connector to Use?
 
On 8/11/10 4:59 PM, Harry wrote:


Nope. You're not Harry. You post with Microsoft Outlook Express
6.00.2900.5931.

I'm the real Harry. I post with a Mac. You can't.

Harry[_5_] August 11th 10 10:09 PM

Which Trailer Connector to Use?
 
"Harry (I post with a Mac, check the headers for ID spoofers who don't)"
wrote in message
...
On 8/11/10 4:59 PM, Harry wrote:


Nope. You're not Harry. You post with Microsoft Outlook Express
6.00.2900.5931.

I'm the real Harry. I post with a Mac. You can't.



Why would a man of means such as myself use one of those Mac etch a
sketches?
BTW Spent the evening with Norah Jones last night. Eat your hearts out,
boys.

--
The OBAMA motto: We've got what it takes, to take what you've got!


Harry (I post with a Mac, check the headers for ID spoofers who don't) August 11th 10 10:22 PM

Which Trailer Connector to Use?
 
On 8/11/10 5:09 PM, Harry wrote:
"Harry (I post with a Mac, check the headers for ID spoofers who don't)"
wrote in message
...
On 8/11/10 4:59 PM, Harry wrote:


Nope. You're not Harry. You post with Microsoft Outlook Express
6.00.2900.5931.

I'm the real Harry. I post with a Mac. You can't.



Why would a man of means such as myself use one of those Mac etch a
sketches?
BTW Spent the evening with Norah Jones last night. Eat your hearts out,
boys.



The point:

You're not Harry. You post with Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931.

I'm the real Harry. I post with a Mac. You can't.

Harry (I post with a PC, check the headers for ID spoofers who don't) August 11th 10 10:34 PM

Which Trailer Connector to Use?
 
Harry wrote:
"Harry (I post with a Mac, check the headers for ID spoofers who don't)"
wrote in message
...
On 8/11/10 4:59 PM, Harry wrote:


Nope. You're not Harry. You post with Microsoft Outlook Express
6.00.2900.5931.

I'm the real Harry. I post with a Mac. You can't.



Why would a man of means such as myself use one of those Mac etch a
sketches?
BTW Spent the evening with Norah Jones last night. Eat your hearts out,
boys.


I don't use a Mac, schitt for brains, I use a PC.

Must really suci to try to be me, eh?

Harry (I post with a Mac, check the headers for ID spoofers who don't) August 11th 10 10:37 PM

Which Trailer Connector to Use?
 
On 8/11/10 5:34 PM, Harry (I post with a PC, check the headers for ID
spoofers who don't) wrote:
Harry wrote:
"Harry (I post with a Mac, check the headers for ID spoofers who
don't)" wrote in message
...
On 8/11/10 4:59 PM, Harry wrote:


Nope. You're not Harry. You post with Microsoft Outlook Express
6.00.2900.5931.

I'm the real Harry. I post with a Mac. You can't.



Why would a man of means such as myself use one of those Mac etch a
sketches?
BTW Spent the evening with Norah Jones last night. Eat your hearts
out, boys.


I don't use a Mac, schitt for brains, I use a PC.

Must really suci to try to be me, eh?



And there we have it...another admission that the PC-using Harry is an
ID spoofer.



Harry (I post with a Mac, check the headers for ID spoofers who don't) August 11th 10 10:47 PM

Which Trailer Connector to Use?
 
Harry (I post with a Mac, check the headers for ID spoofers who don't)
wrote:
On 8/11/10 4:45 PM, wrote:
I am re-wiring the trailer. I need to decide which trailer connector
(4-, 5-, 6- or 7-pole) to use. The trailer has a surge brake that is
a disc brake. The minimum requirements for the new wiring are to do
these:
Left turn signal
Right turn signal
Running lights (marker and clearance)
Brake signal
Disengage the disc brake when the car is in reverse

Optionally I would like to be able to do this:
Power an electric winch

Which trailer connector do I need to match the minimum requirement?
Which trailer connector do I need to also match the optional
requirement?

I am under the impression that as a minimum, I should use 5-pole flat
connector and use the 5-th wire to connect to the reverse circuit in
my car in order to disengage the disc brake when the car is in
reverse. But there is one thing that I don't understand: The 5-th
wire (the blue one) is supposed to be for brake. Does this mean that
I don't have any more brake light if I use the 5-th wire for reverse?
Is that 5-th wire for "electric" brake that is irrelevant to me and is
OK to use it for reverse?

If I really want to use the electric powered winch, I need to go for 6-
pole or 7-pole trailer connector, right?

Sorry if these questions are too basic. I am very surprised that I
cannot find any info about these when I "google" or "wiki". May be I
didn't use the correct key words.

By the way, my car is a 2008 Highlander that can handle up to 5000-
lbs. And my boat is 18-ft fiberglass center console weight around
2300-lbs. I am not sure if these info are relevant or not.

Thanks for any info in advance.

Jay Chan


I'll be glad to jump in here, especially since I've never had a boat
trailer with a power winch.

I've looked at several power winch/trailer setups at the local boat
ramp. When I had a 25' trailer boat, the possibility of an electric
winch intrigued me. It seems to be that the winch was hooked up to its
own plug at the back of the vehicle, and not to the trailer lights plug.
I don't see how the typical trailer lights plug could handle the amperage.

Be careful with that 5000-pound capacity. Is that 2300 pounds the total
for your boat sans engine, gas, batteries, gear? You probably have a
400-pound outboard. Gas is roughly 6.5 pounds a gallon. Batteries are 50
pounds each. And your trailer probably weighs at least 1,000 pounds.
You're damned close to the limit for your vehicles.


I meant to add that when I was trailering my 36' lobsta boat, I had a
pickup truck rated for an 8500-pound towing capacity. I was dammed close
to the limit on that truck.

But the truck came in damned handy when I discovered a burglar in my
garage. I was able to pin him to the wall with the truck until the
police arrived.

I remember when my father discovered a squatter in one of the boats
belonging to a customer in the marina he owned. He locked the cabin door
to the boat and left the guy in there for 4 days, if I remember
correctly. When he finally let the guy out, the guy took off faster than
Herring can tell a racist joke. My father never had a problem with that
squatter again.

Harry (I post with a Mac, check the headers for ID spoofers who don't) August 11th 10 10:55 PM

Which Trailer Connector to Use?
 


I meant to add that when I was trailering my 36' lobsta boat, I had a
pickup truck rated for an 8500-pound towing capacity. I was dammed close
to the limit on that truck.


You can't be Harry...you're not posting with a mac. You're just a
****-for-brains ID spoofer.

Harry (I post with a PC, check the headers for ID spoofers who don't) August 11th 10 10:57 PM

Which Trailer Connector to Use?
 
Harry (I post with a Mac, check the headers for ID spoofers who don't)
wrote:
On 8/11/10 5:34 PM, Harry (I post with a PC, check the headers for ID
spoofers who don't) wrote:
Harry wrote:
"Harry (I post with a Mac, check the headers for ID spoofers who
don't)" wrote in message
...
On 8/11/10 4:59 PM, Harry wrote:


Nope. You're not Harry. You post with Microsoft Outlook Express
6.00.2900.5931.

I'm the real Harry. I post with a Mac. You can't.


Why would a man of means such as myself use one of those Mac etch a
sketches?
BTW Spent the evening with Norah Jones last night. Eat your hearts
out, boys.


I don't use a Mac, schitt for brains, I use a PC.

Must really suci to try to be me, eh?



And there we have it...another admission that the PC-using Harry is an
ID spoofer.




I don't use a Mac schitt for brains.

You and your republi-turd, conserva-trash ID spoofer friends sure are
obsessed with Harry.

Harry (I post with a PC, check the headers for ID spoofers who don't) August 11th 10 11:00 PM

Which Trailer Connector to Use?
 
Harry (I post with a Mac, check the headers for ID spoofers who don't)
wrote:


I meant to add that when I was trailering my 36' lobsta boat, I had a
pickup truck rated for an 8500-pound towing capacity. I was dammed close
to the limit on that truck.


You can't be Harry...you're not posting with a mac. You're just a
****-for-brains ID spoofer.


It's you who's not Harry...you're posting with mac. You're the schitt
for brains spoofer.

Harry[_5_] August 11th 10 11:02 PM

Which Trailer Connector to Use?
 
"Harry (I post with a Mac, check the headers for ID spoofers who don't)"
wrote in message
...
On 8/11/10 5:09 PM, Harry wrote:
"Harry (I post with a Mac, check the headers for ID spoofers who don't)"
wrote in message
...
On 8/11/10 4:59 PM, Harry wrote:


Nope. You're not Harry. You post with Microsoft Outlook Express
6.00.2900.5931.

I'm the real Harry. I post with a Mac. You can't.



Why would a man of means such as myself use one of those Mac etch a
sketches?
BTW Spent the evening with Norah Jones last night. Eat your hearts out,
boys.



The point:

You're not Harry. You post with Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931.

I'm the real Harry. I post with a Mac. You can't.



Oh yes I can.

--
The OBAMA motto: We've got what it takes, to take what you've got!


Harry (I post with a Mac, check the headers for ID spoofers who don't) August 11th 10 11:05 PM

Which Trailer Connector to Use?
 
Harry (I post with a PC, check the headers for ID spoofers who don't) wrote:
Harry (I post with a Mac, check the headers for ID spoofers who don't)
wrote:


I meant to add that when I was trailering my 36' lobsta boat, I had a
pickup truck rated for an 8500-pound towing capacity. I was dammed close
to the limit on that truck.


You can't be Harry...you're not posting with a mac. You're just a
****-for-brains ID spoofer.


It's you who's not Harry...you're posting with mac. You're the schitt
for brains spoofer.


Like I said, you can't be Harry. Check the headers...I post with a mac.
You're just part of the right-wing conservatrash which infests this
newsgroup.

Jim August 11th 10 11:34 PM

Which Trailer Connector to Use?
 
Harry wrote:
"Harry (I post with a Mac, check the headers for ID spoofers who don't)"
wrote in message
...
On 8/11/10 5:09 PM, Harry wrote:
"Harry (I post with a Mac, check the headers for ID spoofers who don't)"
wrote in message
...
On 8/11/10 4:59 PM, Harry wrote:


Nope. You're not Harry. You post with Microsoft Outlook Express
6.00.2900.5931.

I'm the real Harry. I post with a Mac. You can't.


Why would a man of means such as myself use one of those Mac etch a
sketches?
BTW Spent the evening with Norah Jones last night. Eat your hearts out,
boys.



The point:

You're not Harry. You post with Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931.

I'm the real Harry. I post with a Mac. You can't.



Oh yes I can.


Hehe. An asshole like you would probably spend the money to do it.
Then like a dope try to figure out how to spoof Krause's IP - and fail.
Always trying to be Krause. Can't think of anything but Krause.
But you can never be Krause.
Small-time assholes can never be big-time assholes.
Not in the cards.
I think Krause is happy to have all you little asshole spoofers.
Nobody with any sense talks to him any more.

Jim - There's assholes, then there's assholes.

Harry[_5_] August 11th 10 11:55 PM

Which Trailer Connector to Use?
 
"Jim" wrote in message
...
Harry wrote:
"Harry (I post with a Mac, check the headers for ID spoofers who don't)"
wrote in message
...
On 8/11/10 5:09 PM, Harry wrote:
"Harry (I post with a Mac, check the headers for ID spoofers who
don't)"
wrote in message
...
On 8/11/10 4:59 PM, Harry wrote:


Nope. You're not Harry. You post with Microsoft Outlook Express
6.00.2900.5931.

I'm the real Harry. I post with a Mac. You can't.


Why would a man of means such as myself use one of those Mac etch a
sketches?
BTW Spent the evening with Norah Jones last night. Eat your hearts out,
boys.



The point:

You're not Harry. You post with Microsoft Outlook Express
6.00.2900.5931.

I'm the real Harry. I post with a Mac. You can't.



Oh yes I can.


Hehe. An asshole like you would probably spend the money to do it.
Then like a dope try to figure out how to spoof Krause's IP - and fail.
Always trying to be Krause. Can't think of anything but Krause.
But you can never be Krause.
Small-time assholes can never be big-time assholes.
Not in the cards.
I think Krause is happy to have all you little asshole spoofers.
Nobody with any sense talks to him any more.

Jim - There's assholes, then there's assholes.



Moron

--
The OBAMA motto: We've got what it takes, to take what you've got!


Harry (I post with a Mac, check the headers for ID spoofers who don't) August 12th 10 12:23 AM

Which Trailer Connector to Use?
 
On 8/11/10 6:34 PM, Jim wrote:
Harry wrote:
"Harry (I post with a Mac, check the headers for ID spoofers who
don't)" wrote in message
...
On 8/11/10 5:09 PM, Harry wrote:
"Harry (I post with a Mac, check the headers for ID spoofers who
don't)"
wrote in message
...
On 8/11/10 4:59 PM, Harry wrote:


Nope. You're not Harry. You post with Microsoft Outlook Express
6.00.2900.5931.

I'm the real Harry. I post with a Mac. You can't.


Why would a man of means such as myself use one of those Mac etch a
sketches?
BTW Spent the evening with Norah Jones last night. Eat your hearts out,
boys.



The point:

You're not Harry. You post with Microsoft Outlook Express
6.00.2900.5931.

I'm the real Harry. I post with a Mac. You can't.



Oh yes I can.


Hehe. An asshole like you would probably spend the money to do it.
Then like a dope try to figure out how to spoof Krause's IP - and fail.
Always trying to be Krause. Can't think of anything but Krause.
But you can never be Krause.
Small-time assholes can never be big-time assholes.
Not in the cards.
I think Krause is happy to have all you little asshole spoofers.
Nobody with any sense talks to him any more.

Jim - There's assholes, then there's assholes.



Posting to your "altered egos" here again, flajim?

[email protected] August 12th 10 01:43 AM

Which Trailer Connector to Use?
 
On Aug 11, 4:59*pm, "Harry" wrote:
wrote in message

...





I am re-wiring the trailer. *I need to decide which trailer connector
(4-, 5-, 6- or 7-pole) to use. *The trailer has a surge brake that is
a disc brake. *The minimum requirements for the new wiring are to do
these:
* Left turn signal
* Right turn signal
* Running lights (marker and clearance)
* Brake signal
* Disengage the disc brake when the car is in reverse


Optionally I would like to be able to do this:
* Power an electric winch


Which trailer connector do I need to match the minimum requirement?
Which trailer connector do I need to also match the optional
requirement?


I am under the impression that as a minimum, I should use 5-pole flat
connector and use the 5-th wire to connect to the reverse circuit in
my car in order to disengage the disc brake when the car is in
reverse. *But there is one thing that I don't understand: The 5-th
wire (the blue one) is supposed to be for brake. *Does this mean that
I don't have any more brake light if I use the 5-th wire for reverse?
Is that 5-th wire for "electric" brake that is irrelevant to me and is
OK to use it for reverse?


If I really want to use the electric powered winch, I need to go for 6-
pole or 7-pole trailer connector, right?


Sorry if these questions are too basic. *I am very surprised that I
cannot find any info about these when I "google" or "wiki". *May be I
didn't use the correct key words.


By the way, my car is a 2008 Highlander that can handle up to 5000-
lbs. *And my boat is 18-ft fiberglass center console weight around
2300-lbs. *I am not sure if these info are relevant or not.


Thanks for any info in advance.


Jay Chan


You can use a 5 pin plug. The blue wire can be hooked to your back up lights
and power a hydraulic shutoff solenoid on your surge brake.

championtrailer.com should be able to hook you up with parts and
instructions.

--
The OBAMA motto: We've got what it takes, to take what you've got!


Thanks to point out that a 5-pole connector is all I need. This makes
the re-wiring job easier because there is readily available kit to do
just that. My car already has a 4-pole connector. All I need is an
adapter and a long blue wire to convert the existing 4-pole connector
into a 5-pole connector.

I assume that the brake light will be on when I step on the brake even
though I will be using the 5-th wire (that is supposed to be for
brake) for reverse.

Jay Chan

[email protected] August 12th 10 01:55 AM

Which Trailer Connector to Use?
 
On Aug 11, 4:59*pm, "Harry (I post with a Mac, check the headers for
ID spoofers who don't)" wrote:
On 8/11/10 4:45 PM, wrote:





I am re-wiring the trailer. *I need to decide which trailer connector
(4-, 5-, 6- or 7-pole) to use. *The trailer has a surge brake that is
a disc brake. *The minimum requirements for the new wiring are to do
these:
* * Left turn signal
* * Right turn signal
* * Running lights (marker and clearance)
* * Brake signal
* * Disengage the disc brake when the car is in reverse


Optionally I would like to be able to do this:
* * Power an electric winch


Which trailer connector do I need to match the minimum requirement?
Which trailer connector do I need to also match the optional
requirement?


I am under the impression that as a minimum, I should use 5-pole flat
connector and use the 5-th wire to connect to the reverse circuit in
my car in order to disengage the disc brake when the car is in
reverse. *But there is one thing that I don't understand: The 5-th
wire (the blue one) is supposed to be for brake. *Does this mean that
I don't have any more brake light if I use the 5-th wire for reverse?
Is that 5-th wire for "electric" brake that is irrelevant to me and is
OK to use it for reverse?


If I really want to use the electric powered winch, I need to go for 6-
pole or 7-pole trailer connector, right?


Sorry if these questions are too basic. *I am very surprised that I
cannot find any info about these when I "google" or "wiki". *May be I
didn't use the correct key words.


By the way, my car is a 2008 Highlander that can handle up to 5000-
lbs. *And my boat is 18-ft fiberglass center console weight around
2300-lbs. *I am not sure if these info are relevant or not.


Thanks for any info in advance.


Jay Chan


I'll be glad to jump in here, especially since I've never had a boat
trailer with a power winch.

I've looked at several power winch/trailer setups at the local boat
ramp. When I had a 25' trailer boat, the possibility of an electric
winch intrigued me. It seems to be that the winch was hooked up to its
own plug at the back of the vehicle, and not to the trailer lights plug.
I don't see how the typical trailer lights plug could handle the amperage..

Be careful with that 5000-pound capacity. Is that 2300 pounds the total
for your boat sans engine, gas, batteries, gear? You probably have a
400-pound outboard. Gas is roughly 6.5 pounds a gallon. Batteries are 50
pounds each. And your trailer probably weighs at least 1,000 pounds.
You're damned close to the limit for your vehicles.


You are likely to be correct to say that the electric power winch
needs a dedicated power plug directly from the car battery. Thanks
for pointing this out. OK. I will put this in the back burner for
now, and concentrate on rewiring the trailer lights. There seems to
be many boat loading unloading devices available. Therefore, I think
I am better off spending some time figuring this out before committing
to it.

The 2300 pounds includes the hull and the outboard and gasoline and
batteries. That doesn't include the weight of the galvanized
trailer. I believe I still has head room.

Jay Chan

I am Tosk August 12th 10 04:33 AM

Which Trailer Connector to Use?
 
In article ,
says...

Harry (I post with a Mac, check the headers for ID spoofers who don't)
wrote:
On 8/11/10 4:45 PM,
wrote:
I am re-wiring the trailer. I need to decide which trailer connector
(4-, 5-, 6- or 7-pole) to use. The trailer has a surge brake that is
a disc brake. The minimum requirements for the new wiring are to do
these:
Left turn signal
Right turn signal
Running lights (marker and clearance)
Brake signal
Disengage the disc brake when the car is in reverse

Optionally I would like to be able to do this:
Power an electric winch

Which trailer connector do I need to match the minimum requirement?
Which trailer connector do I need to also match the optional
requirement?

I am under the impression that as a minimum, I should use 5-pole flat
connector and use the 5-th wire to connect to the reverse circuit in
my car in order to disengage the disc brake when the car is in
reverse. But there is one thing that I don't understand: The 5-th
wire (the blue one) is supposed to be for brake. Does this mean that
I don't have any more brake light if I use the 5-th wire for reverse?
Is that 5-th wire for "electric" brake that is irrelevant to me and is
OK to use it for reverse?

If I really want to use the electric powered winch, I need to go for 6-
pole or 7-pole trailer connector, right?

Sorry if these questions are too basic. I am very surprised that I
cannot find any info about these when I "google" or "wiki". May be I
didn't use the correct key words.

By the way, my car is a 2008 Highlander that can handle up to 5000-
lbs. And my boat is 18-ft fiberglass center console weight around
2300-lbs. I am not sure if these info are relevant or not.

Thanks for any info in advance.

Jay Chan


I'll be glad to jump in here, especially since I've never had a boat
trailer with a power winch.

I've looked at several power winch/trailer setups at the local boat
ramp. When I had a 25' trailer boat, the possibility of an electric
winch intrigued me. It seems to be that the winch was hooked up to its
own plug at the back of the vehicle, and not to the trailer lights plug.
I don't see how the typical trailer lights plug could handle the amperage.

Be careful with that 5000-pound capacity. Is that 2300 pounds the total
for your boat sans engine, gas, batteries, gear? You probably have a
400-pound outboard. Gas is roughly 6.5 pounds a gallon. Batteries are 50
pounds each. And your trailer probably weighs at least 1,000 pounds.
You're damned close to the limit for your vehicles.


I meant to add that when I was trailering my 36' lobsta boat, I had a
pickup truck rated for an 8500-pound towing capacity. I was dammed close
to the limit on that truck.

But the truck came in damned handy when I discovered a burglar in my
garage. I was able to pin him to the wall with the truck until the
police arrived.

I remember when my father discovered a squatter in one of the boats
belonging to a customer in the marina he owned. He locked the cabin door
to the boat and left the guy in there for 4 days, if I remember
correctly. When he finally let the guy out, the guy took off faster than
Herring can tell a racist joke. My father never had a problem with that
squatter again.


Maybe he pinned him up against the wall with a 36 coupe just like you
did to that guy in your garage?

It's so funny. I rarely see any posts that I think are actually from
Harry, but the spoofers get through fine, either way, they are much
smarter than harry and much more interesting...

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!

I am Tosk August 12th 10 04:33 AM

Which Trailer Connector to Use?
 
In article ,
says...


I meant to add that when I was trailering my 36' lobsta boat, I had a
pickup truck rated for an 8500-pound towing capacity. I was dammed close
to the limit on that truck.


You can't be Harry...you're not posting with a mac. You're just a
****-for-brains ID spoofer.


Ha ha.. you are such an asshole nobody even cares! Can't tell which of
your posts are you and which are not so like most here, I just block the
ones that are not smart and or funny... But if this turns out to really
be you, I will plonk it too;)

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!

I am Tosk August 12th 10 04:33 AM

Which Trailer Connector to Use?
 
In article ,
says...

On 8/11/10 4:59 PM, Harry wrote:


Nope. You're not Harry. You post with Microsoft Outlook Express
6.00.2900.5931.

I'm the real Harry. I post with a Mac. You can't.


Yeah, and then you post with a PC and spoof everyone else, including
yourself most likely... Plonk you asshole...;)

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!

Harry (I post with a Mac, check the headers for ID spoofers who don't) August 12th 10 11:20 AM

Which Trailer Connector to Use?
 
On 8/11/10 11:33 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On 8/11/10 4:59 PM, Harry wrote:


Nope. You're not Harry. You post with Microsoft Outlook Express
6.00.2900.5931.

I'm the real Harry. I post with a Mac. You can't.


Yeah, and then you post with a PC and spoof everyone else, including
yourself most likely... Plonk you asshole...;)



Sorry, little man, but I don't have any PC's.
My two Macs, though, represent more computer power than Idesigns, LLC,
owns.

Harry (I post with a Mac, check the headers for ID spoofers who don't) August 12th 10 01:02 PM

Which Trailer Connector to Use?
 
I am Tosk wrote:
In article ,
says...
On 8/11/10 4:59 PM, Harry wrote:


Nope. You're not Harry. You post with Microsoft Outlook Express
6.00.2900.5931.

I'm the real Harry. I post with a Mac. You can't.


Yeah, and then you post with a PC and spoof everyone else, including
yourself most likely... Plonk you asshole...;)


Plonk away, you short little schitt-for-brains republi-turd. I post with
a mac.

I'll be visiting your state in a few weeks to see an old pal of my
father who is restoring a 1986 Bayliner classic. I might take a few
pictures and post them 'over there'.

YukonBound August 12th 10 01:34 PM

Which Trailer Connector to Use?
 


"I am Tosk" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...


I meant to add that when I was trailering my 36' lobsta boat, I had a
pickup truck rated for an 8500-pound towing capacity. I was dammed
close
to the limit on that truck.


You can't be Harry...you're not posting with a mac. You're just a
****-for-brains ID spoofer.


Ha ha.. you are such an asshole nobody even cares! Can't tell which of
your posts are you and which are not so like most here, I just block the
ones that are not smart and or funny... But if this turns out to really
be you, I will plonk it too;)

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!


Anyone with half a brain can
tell.............................................. ...


YukonBound August 12th 10 01:36 PM

Which Trailer Connector to Use?
 


"I am Tosk" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

Harry (I post with a Mac, check the headers for ID spoofers who don't)
wrote:
On 8/11/10 4:45 PM,
wrote:
I am re-wiring the trailer. I need to decide which trailer connector
(4-, 5-, 6- or 7-pole) to use. The trailer has a surge brake that is
a disc brake. The minimum requirements for the new wiring are to do
these:
Left turn signal
Right turn signal
Running lights (marker and clearance)
Brake signal
Disengage the disc brake when the car is in reverse

Optionally I would like to be able to do this:
Power an electric winch

Which trailer connector do I need to match the minimum requirement?
Which trailer connector do I need to also match the optional
requirement?

I am under the impression that as a minimum, I should use 5-pole flat
connector and use the 5-th wire to connect to the reverse circuit in
my car in order to disengage the disc brake when the car is in
reverse. But there is one thing that I don't understand: The 5-th
wire (the blue one) is supposed to be for brake. Does this mean that
I don't have any more brake light if I use the 5-th wire for reverse?
Is that 5-th wire for "electric" brake that is irrelevant to me and is
OK to use it for reverse?

If I really want to use the electric powered winch, I need to go for
6-
pole or 7-pole trailer connector, right?

Sorry if these questions are too basic. I am very surprised that I
cannot find any info about these when I "google" or "wiki". May be I
didn't use the correct key words.

By the way, my car is a 2008 Highlander that can handle up to 5000-
lbs. And my boat is 18-ft fiberglass center console weight around
2300-lbs. I am not sure if these info are relevant or not.

Thanks for any info in advance.

Jay Chan

I'll be glad to jump in here, especially since I've never had a boat
trailer with a power winch.

I've looked at several power winch/trailer setups at the local boat
ramp. When I had a 25' trailer boat, the possibility of an electric
winch intrigued me. It seems to be that the winch was hooked up to its
own plug at the back of the vehicle, and not to the trailer lights
plug.
I don't see how the typical trailer lights plug could handle the
amperage.

Be careful with that 5000-pound capacity. Is that 2300 pounds the total
for your boat sans engine, gas, batteries, gear? You probably have a
400-pound outboard. Gas is roughly 6.5 pounds a gallon. Batteries are
50
pounds each. And your trailer probably weighs at least 1,000 pounds.
You're damned close to the limit for your vehicles.


I meant to add that when I was trailering my 36' lobsta boat, I had a
pickup truck rated for an 8500-pound towing capacity. I was dammed close
to the limit on that truck.

But the truck came in damned handy when I discovered a burglar in my
garage. I was able to pin him to the wall with the truck until the
police arrived.

I remember when my father discovered a squatter in one of the boats
belonging to a customer in the marina he owned. He locked the cabin door
to the boat and left the guy in there for 4 days, if I remember
correctly. When he finally let the guy out, the guy took off faster than
Herring can tell a racist joke. My father never had a problem with that
squatter again.


Maybe he pinned him up against the wall with a 36 coupe just like you
did to that guy in your garage?

It's so funny. I rarely see any posts that I think are actually from
Harry, but the spoofers get through fine, either way, they are much
smarter than harry and much more interesting...

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!


You just admitted you can't tell the difference...dumbass.


Harry @ news.east.earthlink.net August 12th 10 02:09 PM

Which Trailer Connector to Use?
 
In article ,
says...

On 8/11/10 4:45 PM,
wrote:
I am re-wiring the trailer. I need to decide which trailer connector
(4-, 5-, 6- or 7-pole) to use. The trailer has a surge brake that is
a disc brake. The minimum requirements for the new wiring are to do
these:
Left turn signal
Right turn signal
Running lights (marker and clearance)
Brake signal
Disengage the disc brake when the car is in reverse

Optionally I would like to be able to do this:
Power an electric winch

Which trailer connector do I need to match the minimum requirement?
Which trailer connector do I need to also match the optional
requirement?

I am under the impression that as a minimum, I should use 5-pole flat
connector and use the 5-th wire to connect to the reverse circuit in
my car in order to disengage the disc brake when the car is in
reverse. But there is one thing that I don't understand: The 5-th
wire (the blue one) is supposed to be for brake. Does this mean that
I don't have any more brake light if I use the 5-th wire for reverse?
Is that 5-th wire for "electric" brake that is irrelevant to me and is
OK to use it for reverse?

If I really want to use the electric powered winch, I need to go for 6-
pole or 7-pole trailer connector, right?

Sorry if these questions are too basic. I am very surprised that I
cannot find any info about these when I "google" or "wiki". May be I
didn't use the correct key words.

By the way, my car is a 2008 Highlander that can handle up to 5000-
lbs. And my boat is 18-ft fiberglass center console weight around
2300-lbs. I am not sure if these info are relevant or not.

Thanks for any info in advance.

Jay Chan


I'll be glad to jump in here, especially since I've never had a boat
trailer with a power winch.

I've looked at several power winch/trailer setups at the local boat
ramp. When I had a 25' trailer boat, the possibility of an electric
winch intrigued me. It seems to be that the winch was hooked up to its
own plug at the back of the vehicle, and not to the trailer lights plug.
I don't see how the typical trailer lights plug could handle the amperage.

Be careful with that 5000-pound capacity. Is that 2300 pounds the total
for your boat sans engine, gas, batteries, gear? You probably have a
400-pound outboard. Gas is roughly 6.5 pounds a gallon. Batteries are 50
pounds each. And your trailer probably weighs at least 1,000 pounds.
You're damned close to the limit for your vehicles.


Spoofer alert! I've not posted anything about boats here in years! All I
do is call the people who disagree with me and don't believe my tales
childish names and insult them.

--
The stupider you sound, the more Republican votes you'll get

Harry @ news.east.earthlink.net August 12th 10 02:12 PM

Which Trailer Connector to Use?
 
In article ,
says...

Harry (I post with a Mac, check the headers for ID spoofers who don't)
wrote:


I meant to add that when I was trailering my 36' lobsta boat, I had a
pickup truck rated for an 8500-pound towing capacity. I was dammed close
to the limit on that truck.


You can't be Harry...you're not posting with a mac. You're just a
****-for-brains ID spoofer.


It's you who's not Harry...you're posting with mac. You're the schitt
for brains spoofer.


Hey, dumfoch little schitt, I'm Harry, from Huntingtown, MD. If you
don't believe me, I can post my address and phone numbers for you.

--
The stupider you sound, the more Republican votes you'll get

Harry[_5_] August 12th 10 02:17 PM

Which Trailer Connector to Use?
 
"Harry (I post with a Mac, check the headers for ID spoofers who don't)"
wrote in message
m...
On 8/11/10 11:33 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On 8/11/10 4:59 PM, Harry wrote:


Nope. You're not Harry. You post with Microsoft Outlook Express
6.00.2900.5931.

I'm the real Harry. I post with a Mac. You can't.


Yeah, and then you post with a PC and spoof everyone else, including
yourself most likely... Plonk you asshole...;)



Sorry, little man, but I don't have any PC's.
My two Macs, though, represent more computer power than Idesigns, LLC,
owns.



My significant other has PC and I hear tell that Mac's can run as a PC.
Headers can be spoofed if you are smart enough to do so. I am the master of
deception and mis-direction.

--
The OBAMA motto: We've got what it takes, to take what you've got!


Harry[_5_] August 12th 10 02:21 PM

Which Trailer Connector to Use?
 
"Harry (I post with a Mac, check the headers for ID spoofers who don't)"
wrote in message
...
I am Tosk wrote:
In article ,
says...
On 8/11/10 4:59 PM, Harry wrote:


Nope. You're not Harry. You post with Microsoft Outlook Express
6.00.2900.5931.

I'm the real Harry. I post with a Mac. You can't.


Yeah, and then you post with a PC and spoof everyone else, including
yourself most likely... Plonk you asshole...;)


Plonk away, you short little schitt-for-brains republi-turd. I post with a
mac.

I'll be visiting your state in a few weeks to see an old pal of my father
who is restoring a 1986 Bayliner classic. I might take a few pictures and
post them 'over there'.



Careful of the rough edges. If you remember, a Bayliner bit me, and made me
bleed, while I was inspecting it at a boat show in Annapolis, years ago.
(Does that mean Bayliner uses cutting edge technology?)

--
The OBAMA motto: We've got what it takes, to take what you've got!


Harry (I post with a Mac, check the headers for ID spoofers who don't) August 12th 10 02:22 PM

Which Trailer Connector to Use?
 
On 8/12/10 8:36 AM, YukonBound wrote:


"I am Tosk" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

Harry (I post with a Mac, check the headers for ID spoofers who don't)
wrote:
On 8/11/10 4:45 PM,
wrote:
I am re-wiring the trailer. I need to decide which trailer connector
(4-, 5-, 6- or 7-pole) to use. The trailer has a surge brake that is
a disc brake. The minimum requirements for the new wiring are to do
these:
Left turn signal
Right turn signal
Running lights (marker and clearance)
Brake signal
Disengage the disc brake when the car is in reverse

Optionally I would like to be able to do this:
Power an electric winch

Which trailer connector do I need to match the minimum requirement?
Which trailer connector do I need to also match the optional
requirement?

I am under the impression that as a minimum, I should use 5-pole flat
connector and use the 5-th wire to connect to the reverse circuit in
my car in order to disengage the disc brake when the car is in
reverse. But there is one thing that I don't understand: The 5-th
wire (the blue one) is supposed to be for brake. Does this mean that
I don't have any more brake light if I use the 5-th wire for reverse?
Is that 5-th wire for "electric" brake that is irrelevant to me
and is
OK to use it for reverse?

If I really want to use the electric powered winch, I need to go
for 6-
pole or 7-pole trailer connector, right?

Sorry if these questions are too basic. I am very surprised that I
cannot find any info about these when I "google" or "wiki". May be I
didn't use the correct key words.

By the way, my car is a 2008 Highlander that can handle up to 5000-
lbs. And my boat is 18-ft fiberglass center console weight around
2300-lbs. I am not sure if these info are relevant or not.

Thanks for any info in advance.

Jay Chan

I'll be glad to jump in here, especially since I've never had a boat
trailer with a power winch.

I've looked at several power winch/trailer setups at the local boat
ramp. When I had a 25' trailer boat, the possibility of an electric
winch intrigued me. It seems to be that the winch was hooked up to its
own plug at the back of the vehicle, and not to the trailer lights
plug.
I don't see how the typical trailer lights plug could handle the
amperage.

Be careful with that 5000-pound capacity. Is that 2300 pounds the
total
for your boat sans engine, gas, batteries, gear? You probably have a
400-pound outboard. Gas is roughly 6.5 pounds a gallon. Batteries
are 50
pounds each. And your trailer probably weighs at least 1,000 pounds.
You're damned close to the limit for your vehicles.


I meant to add that when I was trailering my 36' lobsta boat, I had a
pickup truck rated for an 8500-pound towing capacity. I was dammed close
to the limit on that truck.

But the truck came in damned handy when I discovered a burglar in my
garage. I was able to pin him to the wall with the truck until the
police arrived.

I remember when my father discovered a squatter in one of the boats
belonging to a customer in the marina he owned. He locked the cabin door
to the boat and left the guy in there for 4 days, if I remember
correctly. When he finally let the guy out, the guy took off faster than
Herring can tell a racist joke. My father never had a problem with that
squatter again.


Maybe he pinned him up against the wall with a 36 coupe just like you
did to that guy in your garage?

It's so funny. I rarely see any posts that I think are actually from
Harry, but the spoofers get through fine, either way, they are much
smarter than harry and much more interesting...

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!


You just admitted you can't tell the difference...dumbass.



Synapses work about as well in the little man's burned out brain as
molasses pour out of a jar left outside in january in maine.

BTW, the new official nick for tosk is... little man. :)

Harry[_5_] August 12th 10 02:29 PM

Which Trailer Connector to Use?
 
"Harry @ news.east.earthlink.net" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

Harry (I post with a Mac, check the headers for ID spoofers who don't)
wrote:


I meant to add that when I was trailering my 36' lobsta boat, I had a
pickup truck rated for an 8500-pound towing capacity. I was dammed
close
to the limit on that truck.


You can't be Harry...you're not posting with a mac. You're just a
****-for-brains ID spoofer.


It's you who's not Harry...you're posting with mac. You're the schitt
for brains spoofer.


Hey, dumfoch little schitt, I'm Harry, from Huntingtown, MD. If you
don't believe me, I can post my address and phone numbers for you.

--
The stupider you sound, the more Republican votes you'll get



That would not be necessary. It's all available on the net, complete with
pictures.

BTW: I sold my red barn. The new owner moved it to his lot about 1/4 mile to
the North of my gentleman's farm.

PS
I wish you wanna be assholes would stop stalking and spoofing me.
PPS
Get a life.

--
The OBAMA motto: We've got what it takes, to take what you've got!


Harry (I post with a PC, check the headers for ID spoofers who don't) August 12th 10 02:47 PM

Which Trailer Connector to Use?
 
Harry @ news.east.earthlink.net wrote:
In article ,
says...
Harry (I post with a Mac, check the headers for ID spoofers who don't)
wrote:
I meant to add that when I was trailering my 36' lobsta boat, I had a
pickup truck rated for an 8500-pound towing capacity. I was dammed close
to the limit on that truck.

You can't be Harry...you're not posting with a mac. You're just a
****-for-brains ID spoofer.

It's you who's not Harry...you're posting with mac. You're the schitt
for brains spoofer.


Hey, dumfoch little schitt, I'm Harry, from Huntingtown, MD. If you
don't believe me, I can post my address and phone numbers for you.


You don't know schitt about where I live, dumbfoch.

Harry @ news.east.earthlink.net August 12th 10 03:40 PM

Which Trailer Connector to Use?
 
In article ,
says...

On 8/12/10 8:36 AM, YukonBound wrote:


"I am Tosk" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

Harry (I post with a Mac, check the headers for ID spoofers who don't)
wrote:
On 8/11/10 4:45 PM,
wrote:
I am re-wiring the trailer. I need to decide which trailer connector
(4-, 5-, 6- or 7-pole) to use. The trailer has a surge brake that is
a disc brake. The minimum requirements for the new wiring are to do
these:
Left turn signal
Right turn signal
Running lights (marker and clearance)
Brake signal
Disengage the disc brake when the car is in reverse

Optionally I would like to be able to do this:
Power an electric winch

Which trailer connector do I need to match the minimum requirement?
Which trailer connector do I need to also match the optional
requirement?

I am under the impression that as a minimum, I should use 5-pole flat
connector and use the 5-th wire to connect to the reverse circuit in
my car in order to disengage the disc brake when the car is in
reverse. But there is one thing that I don't understand: The 5-th
wire (the blue one) is supposed to be for brake. Does this mean that
I don't have any more brake light if I use the 5-th wire for reverse?
Is that 5-th wire for "electric" brake that is irrelevant to me
and is
OK to use it for reverse?

If I really want to use the electric powered winch, I need to go
for 6-
pole or 7-pole trailer connector, right?

Sorry if these questions are too basic. I am very surprised that I
cannot find any info about these when I "google" or "wiki". May be I
didn't use the correct key words.

By the way, my car is a 2008 Highlander that can handle up to 5000-
lbs. And my boat is 18-ft fiberglass center console weight around
2300-lbs. I am not sure if these info are relevant or not.

Thanks for any info in advance.

Jay Chan

I'll be glad to jump in here, especially since I've never had a boat
trailer with a power winch.

I've looked at several power winch/trailer setups at the local boat
ramp. When I had a 25' trailer boat, the possibility of an electric
winch intrigued me. It seems to be that the winch was hooked up to its
own plug at the back of the vehicle, and not to the trailer lights
plug.
I don't see how the typical trailer lights plug could handle the
amperage.

Be careful with that 5000-pound capacity. Is that 2300 pounds the
total
for your boat sans engine, gas, batteries, gear? You probably have a
400-pound outboard. Gas is roughly 6.5 pounds a gallon. Batteries
are 50
pounds each. And your trailer probably weighs at least 1,000 pounds.
You're damned close to the limit for your vehicles.


I meant to add that when I was trailering my 36' lobsta boat, I had a
pickup truck rated for an 8500-pound towing capacity. I was dammed close
to the limit on that truck.

But the truck came in damned handy when I discovered a burglar in my
garage. I was able to pin him to the wall with the truck until the
police arrived.

I remember when my father discovered a squatter in one of the boats
belonging to a customer in the marina he owned. He locked the cabin door
to the boat and left the guy in there for 4 days, if I remember
correctly. When he finally let the guy out, the guy took off faster than
Herring can tell a racist joke. My father never had a problem with that
squatter again.

Maybe he pinned him up against the wall with a 36 coupe just like you
did to that guy in your garage?

It's so funny. I rarely see any posts that I think are actually from
Harry, but the spoofers get through fine, either way, they are much
smarter than harry and much more interesting...

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!


You just admitted you can't tell the difference...dumbass.



Synapses work about as well in the little man's burned out brain as
molasses pour out of a jar left outside in january in maine.

BTW, the new official nick for tosk is... little man. :)


In what capacity are you able to say what is "official". Are you really
so narcissistic that you think you run all of the internet??

--
The stupider you sound, the more Republican votes you'll get

YukonBound August 12th 10 04:21 PM

Which Trailer Connector to Use?
 


"Harry (I post with a Mac, check the headers for ID spoofers who don't)"
wrote in message
m...
On 8/12/10 8:36 AM, YukonBound wrote:


"I am Tosk" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

Harry (I post with a Mac, check the headers for ID spoofers who don't)
wrote:
On 8/11/10 4:45 PM,
wrote:
I am re-wiring the trailer. I need to decide which trailer connector
(4-, 5-, 6- or 7-pole) to use. The trailer has a surge brake that is
a disc brake. The minimum requirements for the new wiring are to do
these:
Left turn signal
Right turn signal
Running lights (marker and clearance)
Brake signal
Disengage the disc brake when the car is in reverse

Optionally I would like to be able to do this:
Power an electric winch

Which trailer connector do I need to match the minimum requirement?
Which trailer connector do I need to also match the optional
requirement?

I am under the impression that as a minimum, I should use 5-pole
flat
connector and use the 5-th wire to connect to the reverse circuit in
my car in order to disengage the disc brake when the car is in
reverse. But there is one thing that I don't understand: The 5-th
wire (the blue one) is supposed to be for brake. Does this mean that
I don't have any more brake light if I use the 5-th wire for
reverse?
Is that 5-th wire for "electric" brake that is irrelevant to me
and is
OK to use it for reverse?

If I really want to use the electric powered winch, I need to go
for 6-
pole or 7-pole trailer connector, right?

Sorry if these questions are too basic. I am very surprised that I
cannot find any info about these when I "google" or "wiki". May be I
didn't use the correct key words.

By the way, my car is a 2008 Highlander that can handle up to 5000-
lbs. And my boat is 18-ft fiberglass center console weight around
2300-lbs. I am not sure if these info are relevant or not.

Thanks for any info in advance.

Jay Chan

I'll be glad to jump in here, especially since I've never had a boat
trailer with a power winch.

I've looked at several power winch/trailer setups at the local boat
ramp. When I had a 25' trailer boat, the possibility of an electric
winch intrigued me. It seems to be that the winch was hooked up to
its
own plug at the back of the vehicle, and not to the trailer lights
plug.
I don't see how the typical trailer lights plug could handle the
amperage.

Be careful with that 5000-pound capacity. Is that 2300 pounds the
total
for your boat sans engine, gas, batteries, gear? You probably have a
400-pound outboard. Gas is roughly 6.5 pounds a gallon. Batteries
are 50
pounds each. And your trailer probably weighs at least 1,000 pounds.
You're damned close to the limit for your vehicles.


I meant to add that when I was trailering my 36' lobsta boat, I had a
pickup truck rated for an 8500-pound towing capacity. I was dammed
close
to the limit on that truck.

But the truck came in damned handy when I discovered a burglar in my
garage. I was able to pin him to the wall with the truck until the
police arrived.

I remember when my father discovered a squatter in one of the boats
belonging to a customer in the marina he owned. He locked the cabin
door
to the boat and left the guy in there for 4 days, if I remember
correctly. When he finally let the guy out, the guy took off faster
than
Herring can tell a racist joke. My father never had a problem with that
squatter again.

Maybe he pinned him up against the wall with a 36 coupe just like you
did to that guy in your garage?

It's so funny. I rarely see any posts that I think are actually from
Harry, but the spoofers get through fine, either way, they are much
smarter than harry and much more interesting...

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!


You just admitted you can't tell the difference...dumbass.



Synapses work about as well in the little man's burned out brain as
molasses pour out of a jar left outside in january in maine.

BTW, the new official nick for tosk is... little man. :)


Yup... a "little man" in every aspect.


Harry @ news.east.earthlink.net August 12th 10 05:00 PM

Which Trailer Connector to Use?
 
In article ,
says...

"Harry (I post with a Mac, check the headers for ID spoofers who don't)"
wrote in message
m...
On 8/12/10 8:36 AM, YukonBound wrote:


"I am Tosk" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

Harry (I post with a Mac, check the headers for ID spoofers who don't)
wrote:
On 8/11/10 4:45 PM,
wrote:
I am re-wiring the trailer. I need to decide which trailer connector
(4-, 5-, 6- or 7-pole) to use. The trailer has a surge brake that is
a disc brake. The minimum requirements for the new wiring are to do
these:
Left turn signal
Right turn signal
Running lights (marker and clearance)
Brake signal
Disengage the disc brake when the car is in reverse

Optionally I would like to be able to do this:
Power an electric winch

Which trailer connector do I need to match the minimum requirement?
Which trailer connector do I need to also match the optional
requirement?

I am under the impression that as a minimum, I should use 5-pole
flat
connector and use the 5-th wire to connect to the reverse circuit in
my car in order to disengage the disc brake when the car is in
reverse. But there is one thing that I don't understand: The 5-th
wire (the blue one) is supposed to be for brake. Does this mean that
I don't have any more brake light if I use the 5-th wire for
reverse?
Is that 5-th wire for "electric" brake that is irrelevant to me
and is
OK to use it for reverse?

If I really want to use the electric powered winch, I need to go
for 6-
pole or 7-pole trailer connector, right?

Sorry if these questions are too basic. I am very surprised that I
cannot find any info about these when I "google" or "wiki". May be I
didn't use the correct key words.

By the way, my car is a 2008 Highlander that can handle up to 5000-
lbs. And my boat is 18-ft fiberglass center console weight around
2300-lbs. I am not sure if these info are relevant or not.

Thanks for any info in advance.

Jay Chan

I'll be glad to jump in here, especially since I've never had a boat
trailer with a power winch.

I've looked at several power winch/trailer setups at the local boat
ramp. When I had a 25' trailer boat, the possibility of an electric
winch intrigued me. It seems to be that the winch was hooked up to
its
own plug at the back of the vehicle, and not to the trailer lights
plug.
I don't see how the typical trailer lights plug could handle the
amperage.

Be careful with that 5000-pound capacity. Is that 2300 pounds the
total
for your boat sans engine, gas, batteries, gear? You probably have a
400-pound outboard. Gas is roughly 6.5 pounds a gallon. Batteries
are 50
pounds each. And your trailer probably weighs at least 1,000 pounds.
You're damned close to the limit for your vehicles.


I meant to add that when I was trailering my 36' lobsta boat, I had a
pickup truck rated for an 8500-pound towing capacity. I was dammed
close
to the limit on that truck.

But the truck came in damned handy when I discovered a burglar in my
garage. I was able to pin him to the wall with the truck until the
police arrived.

I remember when my father discovered a squatter in one of the boats
belonging to a customer in the marina he owned. He locked the cabin
door
to the boat and left the guy in there for 4 days, if I remember
correctly. When he finally let the guy out, the guy took off faster
than
Herring can tell a racist joke. My father never had a problem with that
squatter again.

Maybe he pinned him up against the wall with a 36 coupe just like you
did to that guy in your garage?

It's so funny. I rarely see any posts that I think are actually from
Harry, but the spoofers get through fine, either way, they are much
smarter than harry and much more interesting...

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!

You just admitted you can't tell the difference...dumbass.



Synapses work about as well in the little man's burned out brain as
molasses pour out of a jar left outside in january in maine.

BTW, the new official nick for tosk is... little man. :)


Yup... a "little man" in every aspect.


You'd better watch it, you're a short little schitt, too.

--
The stupider you sound, the more Republican votes you'll get

mmc August 12th 10 08:27 PM

Which Trailer Connector to Use?
 

"I am Tosk" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

Harry (I post with a Mac, check the headers for ID spoofers who don't)
wrote:
On 8/11/10 4:45 PM,
wrote:
I am re-wiring the trailer. I need to decide which trailer connector
(4-, 5-, 6- or 7-pole) to use. The trailer has a surge brake that is
a disc brake. The minimum requirements for the new wiring are to do
these:
Left turn signal
Right turn signal
Running lights (marker and clearance)
Brake signal
Disengage the disc brake when the car is in reverse

Optionally I would like to be able to do this:
Power an electric winch

Which trailer connector do I need to match the minimum requirement?
Which trailer connector do I need to also match the optional
requirement?

I am under the impression that as a minimum, I should use 5-pole flat
connector and use the 5-th wire to connect to the reverse circuit in
my car in order to disengage the disc brake when the car is in
reverse. But there is one thing that I don't understand: The 5-th
wire (the blue one) is supposed to be for brake. Does this mean that
I don't have any more brake light if I use the 5-th wire for reverse?
Is that 5-th wire for "electric" brake that is irrelevant to me and is
OK to use it for reverse?

If I really want to use the electric powered winch, I need to go for
6-
pole or 7-pole trailer connector, right?

Sorry if these questions are too basic. I am very surprised that I
cannot find any info about these when I "google" or "wiki". May be I
didn't use the correct key words.

By the way, my car is a 2008 Highlander that can handle up to 5000-
lbs. And my boat is 18-ft fiberglass center console weight around
2300-lbs. I am not sure if these info are relevant or not.

Thanks for any info in advance.

Jay Chan

I'll be glad to jump in here, especially since I've never had a boat
trailer with a power winch.

I've looked at several power winch/trailer setups at the local boat
ramp. When I had a 25' trailer boat, the possibility of an electric
winch intrigued me. It seems to be that the winch was hooked up to its
own plug at the back of the vehicle, and not to the trailer lights
plug.
I don't see how the typical trailer lights plug could handle the
amperage.

Be careful with that 5000-pound capacity. Is that 2300 pounds the total
for your boat sans engine, gas, batteries, gear? You probably have a
400-pound outboard. Gas is roughly 6.5 pounds a gallon. Batteries are
50
pounds each. And your trailer probably weighs at least 1,000 pounds.
You're damned close to the limit for your vehicles.


I meant to add that when I was trailering my 36' lobsta boat, I had a
pickup truck rated for an 8500-pound towing capacity. I was dammed close
to the limit on that truck.

But the truck came in damned handy when I discovered a burglar in my
garage. I was able to pin him to the wall with the truck until the
police arrived.

I remember when my father discovered a squatter in one of the boats
belonging to a customer in the marina he owned. He locked the cabin door
to the boat and left the guy in there for 4 days, if I remember
correctly. When he finally let the guy out, the guy took off faster than
Herring can tell a racist joke. My father never had a problem with that
squatter again.


Maybe he pinned him up against the wall with a 36 coupe just like you
did to that guy in your garage?

It's so funny. I rarely see any posts that I think are actually from
Harry, but the spoofers get through fine, either way, they are much
smarter than harry and much more interesting...

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!


agreed!



Larry[_27_] August 17th 10 01:03 AM

Which Trailer Connector to Use?
 
YukonBound wrote:


"I am Tosk" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

Harry (I post with a Mac, check the headers for ID spoofers who don't)
wrote:
On 8/11/10 4:45 PM,
wrote:
I am re-wiring the trailer. I need to decide which trailer
connector
(4-, 5-, 6- or 7-pole) to use. The trailer has a surge brake
that is
a disc brake. The minimum requirements for the new wiring are to do
these:
Left turn signal
Right turn signal
Running lights (marker and clearance)
Brake signal
Disengage the disc brake when the car is in reverse

Optionally I would like to be able to do this:
Power an electric winch

Which trailer connector do I need to match the minimum requirement?
Which trailer connector do I need to also match the optional
requirement?

I am under the impression that as a minimum, I should use 5-pole
flat
connector and use the 5-th wire to connect to the reverse circuit in
my car in order to disengage the disc brake when the car is in
reverse. But there is one thing that I don't understand: The 5-th
wire (the blue one) is supposed to be for brake. Does this mean
that
I don't have any more brake light if I use the 5-th wire for
reverse?
Is that 5-th wire for "electric" brake that is irrelevant to me
and is
OK to use it for reverse?

If I really want to use the electric powered winch, I need to go
for 6-
pole or 7-pole trailer connector, right?

Sorry if these questions are too basic. I am very surprised that I
cannot find any info about these when I "google" or "wiki". May
be I
didn't use the correct key words.

By the way, my car is a 2008 Highlander that can handle up to 5000-
lbs. And my boat is 18-ft fiberglass center console weight around
2300-lbs. I am not sure if these info are relevant or not.

Thanks for any info in advance.

Jay Chan

I'll be glad to jump in here, especially since I've never had a boat
trailer with a power winch.

I've looked at several power winch/trailer setups at the local boat
ramp. When I had a 25' trailer boat, the possibility of an electric
winch intrigued me. It seems to be that the winch was hooked up to
its
own plug at the back of the vehicle, and not to the trailer lights
plug.
I don't see how the typical trailer lights plug could handle the
amperage.

Be careful with that 5000-pound capacity. Is that 2300 pounds the
total
for your boat sans engine, gas, batteries, gear? You probably have a
400-pound outboard. Gas is roughly 6.5 pounds a gallon. Batteries
are 50
pounds each. And your trailer probably weighs at least 1,000 pounds.
You're damned close to the limit for your vehicles.


I meant to add that when I was trailering my 36' lobsta boat, I had a
pickup truck rated for an 8500-pound towing capacity. I was dammed
close
to the limit on that truck.

But the truck came in damned handy when I discovered a burglar in my
garage. I was able to pin him to the wall with the truck until the
police arrived.

I remember when my father discovered a squatter in one of the boats
belonging to a customer in the marina he owned. He locked the cabin
door
to the boat and left the guy in there for 4 days, if I remember
correctly. When he finally let the guy out, the guy took off faster
than
Herring can tell a racist joke. My father never had a problem with that
squatter again.


Maybe he pinned him up against the wall with a 36 coupe just like you
did to that guy in your garage?

It's so funny. I rarely see any posts that I think are actually from
Harry, but the spoofers get through fine, either way, they are much
smarter than harry and much more interesting...

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!


You just admitted you can't tell the difference...dumbass.

There should be no need to read the headers on every post. Your
boyfriend ****ed someone off and he has to deal with it. The rest of us
don't have the time, or desire, to read Usenet headers, dummy.

I am Tosk August 17th 10 02:55 PM

Which Trailer Connector to Use?
 
In article ,
says...

YukonBound wrote:


"I am Tosk" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

Harry (I post with a Mac, check the headers for ID spoofers who don't)
wrote:
On 8/11/10 4:45 PM,
wrote:
I am re-wiring the trailer. I need to decide which trailer
connector
(4-, 5-, 6- or 7-pole) to use. The trailer has a surge brake
that is
a disc brake. The minimum requirements for the new wiring are to do
these:
Left turn signal
Right turn signal
Running lights (marker and clearance)
Brake signal
Disengage the disc brake when the car is in reverse

Optionally I would like to be able to do this:
Power an electric winch

Which trailer connector do I need to match the minimum requirement?
Which trailer connector do I need to also match the optional
requirement?

I am under the impression that as a minimum, I should use 5-pole
flat
connector and use the 5-th wire to connect to the reverse circuit in
my car in order to disengage the disc brake when the car is in
reverse. But there is one thing that I don't understand: The 5-th
wire (the blue one) is supposed to be for brake. Does this mean
that
I don't have any more brake light if I use the 5-th wire for
reverse?
Is that 5-th wire for "electric" brake that is irrelevant to me
and is
OK to use it for reverse?

If I really want to use the electric powered winch, I need to go
for 6-
pole or 7-pole trailer connector, right?

Sorry if these questions are too basic. I am very surprised that I
cannot find any info about these when I "google" or "wiki". May
be I
didn't use the correct key words.

By the way, my car is a 2008 Highlander that can handle up to 5000-
lbs. And my boat is 18-ft fiberglass center console weight around
2300-lbs. I am not sure if these info are relevant or not.

Thanks for any info in advance.

Jay Chan

I'll be glad to jump in here, especially since I've never had a boat
trailer with a power winch.

I've looked at several power winch/trailer setups at the local boat
ramp. When I had a 25' trailer boat, the possibility of an electric
winch intrigued me. It seems to be that the winch was hooked up to
its
own plug at the back of the vehicle, and not to the trailer lights
plug.
I don't see how the typical trailer lights plug could handle the
amperage.

Be careful with that 5000-pound capacity. Is that 2300 pounds the
total
for your boat sans engine, gas, batteries, gear? You probably have a
400-pound outboard. Gas is roughly 6.5 pounds a gallon. Batteries
are 50
pounds each. And your trailer probably weighs at least 1,000 pounds.
You're damned close to the limit for your vehicles.


I meant to add that when I was trailering my 36' lobsta boat, I had a
pickup truck rated for an 8500-pound towing capacity. I was dammed
close
to the limit on that truck.

But the truck came in damned handy when I discovered a burglar in my
garage. I was able to pin him to the wall with the truck until the
police arrived.

I remember when my father discovered a squatter in one of the boats
belonging to a customer in the marina he owned. He locked the cabin
door
to the boat and left the guy in there for 4 days, if I remember
correctly. When he finally let the guy out, the guy took off faster
than
Herring can tell a racist joke. My father never had a problem with that
squatter again.

Maybe he pinned him up against the wall with a 36 coupe just like you
did to that guy in your garage?

It's so funny. I rarely see any posts that I think are actually from
Harry, but the spoofers get through fine, either way, they are much
smarter than harry and much more interesting...

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!


You just admitted you can't tell the difference...dumbass.

There should be no need to read the headers on every post. Your
boyfriend ****ed someone off and he has to deal with it. The rest of us
don't have the time, or desire, to read Usenet headers, dummy.


Really, Bonnie is a dumb **** alright.. All it means is I don't want to
take up half my screen with the "H" key looking at headers... If it the
real coward of one of the Harry clones, I don't really care, they are
all a joke.

I guess thats the idea, and it seems to be working well, I see the
cross-dressers coming, Harry must be out recruiting...

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!

Harry  August 17th 10 02:59 PM

Which Trailer Connector to Use?
 
On 8/17/10 9:55 AM, I am Tosk wrote:


Really, Bonnie is a dumb **** alright.. All it means is I don't want to
take up half my screen with the "H" key looking at headers... If it the
real coward of one of the Harry clones, I don't really care, they are
all a joke.

I guess thats the idea, and it seems to be working well, I see the
cross-dressers coming, Harry must be out recruiting...


What's your native language? It sure as hell isn't English.


--
I'm the real Harry, and I post from a Mac, as virtually everyone knows.
If a post is attributed to me, and it isn't from a Mac, it's from an ID
spoofer who hasn't the balls to post with his own ID.


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