Greed is why there is no hiring...Corporate Greed
 

On 6-Aug-2010, bpuharic wrote:

With that "logic" the federal government can do anything it wants, right?

nope. it can't restrict religion. it can't forbid assembly. etc etc.


In case you skiped elementary education, the constitution defines what it
CAN do, and well as prohibiting what it cannot do to you.

fine. again, prove that this involves education. other than you
continuously bleating that it does, i havent seen you prove it

I can't prove anything if you can't read or think, nor do you deserve the
education, but, one last time: The constitution defines the functions
and/or authority of the federal government. Education is not a defined
function of the federal government in the constitution. In fact, no division
of government was involved with education at the time of the writing of the
constitution. If it's not defined as a function of the constitution, it is
unconstitutional.

The "can'ts" in the constitution are there to define what the government
cannot do to you.

So, just for ****s 'n giggles, where is the authority for the federal
government to interfere with education?

You work for the DMV or the Post Office?

Greed is why there is no hiring...Corporate Greed
 

On Sat, 7 Aug 2010 02:15:44 GMT, "Colonel Kurtz"
wrote:


On 6-Aug-2010, bpuharic wrote:

With that "logic" the federal government can do anything it wants, right?


fine. again, prove that this involves education. other than you
continuously bleating that it does, i havent seen you prove it

I can't prove anything if you can't read or think, nor do you deserve the
education, but, one last time: The constitution defines the functions
and/or authority of the federal government. Education is not a defined
function of the federal government in the constitution.

education is not a PROHIBITED function of the federal govt. nowhere in
the constitution does it say the federal govt is PROHIBITED from being
a function of the federal govt.

so, again, prove to me it is. otherwise your argument is invalid

In fact, no division
of government was involved with education at the time of the writing of the
constitution. If it's not defined as a function of the constitution, it is
unconstitutional.

prove it. prove to me that the constitution says that education is a
prohibited function of the govt.

cite me the relevant paragraph in the constitution where it says
education is prohibited.

go ahead. if you do that i'll admit i'm wrong.



So, just for ****s 'n giggles, where is the authority for the federal
government to interfere with education?

since it's not mentioned, there's no prohibition. if it's not
prohibited, it's permitted.

QED

Greed is why there is no hiring...Corporate Greed
 

On Sat, 07 Aug 2010 01:26:31 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 13:34:39 -0400, bpuharic wrote:


show me where it's not delegated to the fed. govt.

go ahead. keep going. i'm having a grand time.

Simple, the word education or anything alluding to regulation
education is not mentioned anywhere in the Constitution.

exactly. that's why it's not prohibited.

Education has always been a local issue, to the point where virtually
everywhere the board of education is a county level or city level
organization.

?? it's been a local issue? uh no.

in fact, until early in the 20th century it wasnt a govt function at
all. there were no govt schools anywhere at the local or the federal
level

so, go ahead. make up more ****.

Greed is why there is no hiring...Corporate Greed
 

On Sat, 07 Aug 2010 11:00:09 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 07 Aug 2010 07:29:55 -0400, bpuharic wrote:


in fact, until early in the 20th century it wasnt a govt function at
all. there were no govt schools anywhere at the local or the federal
level

Didn't you just repeat what I said?

As for the original question, if it wasn't "delegated" to the federal
government in the constitution, the 10th amendment says it reverts to
the states.

and nowhere does it prohibit the feds from funding education. local
boards have power. the feds have the money.

and nowhere is this prohibited. nowhere is a dept of education
prohibited

so far you keep telling me it is.

go ahead. show me where

In a practical sense, we have had a federal education department for
30 years and education has really not improved

that's because america has the worst form of education policy in the
western world.

we allow local boards to run education. that's a disaster. no other
country does this. most have national standards and education is run
on a national level

we in america have a myth that local govt is better

anyone who knows about the mississippi sovereignty commission knows
that's wrong

.. It just got a whole
lot more expensive. We spend well over a trillion (with a T) in K-12
and we still have more that 25% of the kids who never make it out of
the 12th grade. Our little jerk water county in Floriduh spends $1.42
Billion for 80,044 K-12 students ($17.7k per kid)
http://www.leeschools.net/info/facts.htm
It is virtually all of what we pay on property taxes, far exceeding
what we pay for police, fire, roads and other local expenditures
combined.
For all of that money we get a 72.5% graduation rate.

we also have a more diverse student body than virtually any other
country in the world.

you're just too stupid to know what's going on

Greed is why there is no hiring...Corporate Greed
 

On 6-Aug-2010, bpuharic wrote:

I can't prove anything if you can't read or think, nor do you deserve the
education, but, one last time: The constitution defines the functions
and/or authority of the federal government. Education is not a defined
function of the federal government in the constitution.

education is not a PROHIBITED function of the federal govt. nowhere in
the constitution does it say the federal govt is PROHIBITED from being
a function of the federal govt.

The United States Constitution does not specifically prohibit your from from
being the cover boy for "Idiot Monthly" so please post your picture here so
you can be on the cover of the next issue.

Greed is why there is no hiring...Corporate Greed
 

On 7-Aug-2010, wrote:

all. there were no govt schools anywhere at the local or the federal
level

Didn't you just repeat what I said?

As for the original question, if it wasn't "delegated" to the federal
government in the constitution, the 10th amendment says it reverts to
the states.

Best to go somewhere else; we're trying to teach a pig to dance. It's
unfortunate these people are allowed to vote.

Greed is why there is no hiring...Corporate Greed
 

On 7-Aug-2010, bpuharic wrote:

government in the constitution, the 10th amendment says it reverts to
the states.

and nowhere does it prohibit the feds from funding education. local
boards have power. the feds have the money.

and nowhere is this prohibited. nowhere is a dept of education
prohibited

so far you keep telling me it is.

go ahead. show me where


Gotta be a DMV "employee," or one that was fired for being too stupid for
even that function

Greed is why there is no hiring...Corporate Greed
 

"Colonel Kurtz" wrote in message
...

On 6-Aug-2010, bpuharic wrote:

I can't prove anything if you can't read or think, nor do you deserve
the
education, but, one last time: The constitution defines the functions
and/or authority of the federal government. Education is not a defined
function of the federal government in the constitution.

education is not a PROHIBITED function of the federal govt. nowhere in
the constitution does it say the federal govt is PROHIBITED from being
a function of the federal govt.

The United States Constitution does not specifically prohibit your from
from
being the cover boy for "Idiot Monthly" so please post your picture here
so
you can be on the cover of the next issue.

http://www.qrz.com/db/ get your bob the loser photos here. Use his call
sign to search on.




--
Hasta la vista

Greed is why there is no hiring...Corporate Greed
 

On Sun, 8 Aug 2010 13:35:12 GMT, "Colonel Kurtz"
wrote:


On 6-Aug-2010, bpuharic wrote:

I can't prove anything if you can't read or think, nor do you deserve the
education, but, one last time: The constitution defines the functions
and/or authority of the federal government. Education is not a defined
function of the federal government in the constitution.

education is not a PROHIBITED function of the federal govt. nowhere in
the constitution does it say the federal govt is PROHIBITED from being
a function of the federal govt.

The United States Constitution does not specifically prohibit your from from
being the cover boy for "Idiot Monthly" so please post your picture here so
you can be on the cover of the next issue.

IOW you have no argument.

thanks. i already knew that....

nothing to see here folks...move along.

Greed is why there is no hiring...Corporate Greed
 

On Sun, 8 Aug 2010 09:58:42 -0400, "Harry ?"
wrote:

"Colonel Kurtz" wrote in message
...

On 6-Aug-2010, bpuharic wrote:

I can't prove anything if you can't read or think, nor do you deserve
the
education, but, one last time: The constitution defines the functions
and/or authority of the federal government. Education is not a defined
function of the federal government in the constitution.

education is not a PROHIBITED function of the federal govt. nowhere in
the constitution does it say the federal govt is PROHIBITED from being
a function of the federal govt.

The United States Constitution does not specifically prohibit your from
from
being the cover boy for "Idiot Monthly" so please post your picture here
so
you can be on the cover of the next issue.

http://www.qrz.com/db/ get your bob the loser photos here. Use his call
sign to search on.

you don't like a man in uniform?

Greed is why there is no hiring...Corporate Greed
 

On Sun, 08 Aug 2010 11:45:07 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 07 Aug 2010 14:05:39 -0400, bpuharic wrote:


and nowhere does it prohibit the feds from funding education. local
boards have power. the feds have the money.

The amount of federal money given to local school boards is
insignificant compared to what is raised in local taxes.

really? only if you consider 21 billion dollars 'insignificant'

http://www2.ed.gov/about/overview/bu...1stbystate.pdf



and nowhere is this prohibited. nowhere is a dept of education
prohibited

so far you keep telling me it is.

go ahead. show me where

The 10th amendment says if it is not delegated in the Constitution it
reverts to the states.
It is not delegated in the constitution.

meaningless. nothing the feds are doing is prohibited. what is
specifically 'not delegated'?


In a practical sense, we have had a federal education department for
30 years and education has really not improved

that's because america has the worst form of education policy in the
western world.

we allow local boards to run education. that's a disaster. no other
country does this. most have national standards and education is run
on a national level

we in america have a myth that local govt is better


Yeah, everyone knows the citizens of this country are not to be
trusted. ... and you call me a nazi. You seem to want a federal
education fuhrer.

in a manner of speaking, yes. unlike you, i'm a scientist. i think
rationally. i go with EVIDENCE

you? you think like a child. you **** your diaper then want to blame
everyone else

the fact is local school board control does not work. it's a failure.



we also have a more diverse student body than virtually any other
country in the world.

So?


you're just too stupid to know what's going on

You have such of a lack in communication skills that you have to
resort to personal attacks..
You must be a product of the public school system.

yep. i'm honored to say that i went to public school like most of the
middle class.

you? you're the spoiled brat of a privileged childhood who thinks the
middle class...and the black president...should know our place

Greed is why there is no hiring...Corporate Greed
 

On Sun, 8 Aug 2010 13:36:43 GMT, "Colonel Kurtz"
wrote:


On 7-Aug-2010, wrote:

all. there were no govt schools anywhere at the local or the federal
level

Didn't you just repeat what I said?

As for the original question, if it wasn't "delegated" to the federal
government in the constitution, the 10th amendment says it reverts to
the states.

Best to go somewhere else; we're trying to teach a pig to dance. It's
unfortunate these people are allowed to vote.

IOW you have no argument.

uh huh.

Greed is why there is no hiring...Corporate Greed
 

On Sun, 08 Aug 2010 12:44:15 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 08 Aug 2010 12:19:38 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

meaningless. nothing the feds are doing is prohibited. what is
specifically 'not delegated'?

The Constitution is about Power, the Bill of right is about Rights.
If the federal government is not given a particular Power in the body
of the Constitution, the Right to administer that is granted to the
states by the 10th amendment.

and nowhere does it mention a SPECIFIC 'power' of education that is
prohibited.

sorry


in a manner of speaking, yes. unlike you, i'm a scientist. i think
rationally. i go with EVIDENCE


OK the EVIDENCE is in. The department of education is not effective.

the EVIDENCE is that local school board control is ineffective.



you? you think like a child. you **** your diaper then want to blame
everyone else

the fact is local school board control does not work. it's a failure.

You were educated by a local school board.

what can i say. six sigma you know...

yep. i'm honored to say that i went to public school like most of the
middle class.

you? you're the spoiled brat of a privileged childhood who thinks the
middle class...and the black president...should know our place


I grew up in Southeast DC (the 9th ward now). I doubt you even
understand what that is or you wouldn't be blathering about "spoiled
brat of a privileged childhood". In fact my mother worked and I was
taken care of by a black woman (along with several black kids). That
is something Obama can't say.

and yet you despise him because he's black....

you must have hated your caretakers, too.

mom taught you that the darkies should always be servants, eh?

Greed is why there is no hiring...Corporate Greed
 

wrote in message
...
On Sun, 08 Aug 2010 12:19:38 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

On Sun, 08 Aug 2010 11:45:07 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 07 Aug 2010 14:05:39 -0400, bpuharic wrote:


and nowhere does it prohibit the feds from funding education. local
boards have power. the feds have the money.

The amount of federal money given to local school boards is
insignificant compared to what is raised in local taxes.

really? only if you consider 21 billion dollars 'insignificant'

http://www2.ed.gov/about/overview/bu...1stbystate.pdf



and nowhere is this prohibited. nowhere is a dept of education
prohibited

so far you keep telling me it is.

go ahead. show me where

The 10th amendment says if it is not delegated in the Constitution it
reverts to the states.
It is not delegated in the constitution.

meaningless. nothing the feds are doing is prohibited. what is
specifically 'not delegated'?

The Constitution is about Power, the Bill of right is about Rights.
If the federal government is not given a particular Power in the body
of the Constitution, the Right to administer that is granted to the
states by the 10th amendment.



In a practical sense, we have had a federal education department for
30 years and education has really not improved

that's because america has the worst form of education policy in the
western world.

we allow local boards to run education. that's a disaster. no other
country does this. most have national standards and education is run
on a national level

we in america have a myth that local govt is better


Yeah, everyone knows the citizens of this country are not to be
trusted. ... and you call me a nazi. You seem to want a federal
education fuhrer.

in a manner of speaking, yes. unlike you, i'm a scientist. i think
rationally. i go with EVIDENCE


OK the EVIDENCE is in. The department of education is not effective.


you? you think like a child. you **** your diaper then want to blame
everyone else

the fact is local school board control does not work. it's a failure.

You were educated by a local school board.


we also have a more diverse student body than virtually any other
country in the world.

So?


you're just too stupid to know what's going on

You have such of a lack in communication skills that you have to
resort to personal attacks..
You must be a product of the public school system.

yep. i'm honored to say that i went to public school like most of the
middle class.

you? you're the spoiled brat of a privileged childhood who thinks the
middle class...and the black president...should know our place


I grew up in Southeast DC (the 9th ward now). I doubt you even
understand what that is or you wouldn't be blathering about "spoiled
brat of a privileged childhood". In fact my mother worked and I was
taken care of by a black woman (along with several black kids). That
is something Obama can't say.

I wonder if Bob uses the same techniques, language and all, when he
"discusses" these issues face to face.

He professes to be a scientist and only deals in fact, yet on the other hand
resorts to labeling folks here with no basis in fact at all.

Greed is why there is no hiring...Corporate Greed
 

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 08 Aug 2010 13:07:05 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

On Sun, 08 Aug 2010 12:44:15 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 08 Aug 2010 12:19:38 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

meaningless. nothing the feds are doing is prohibited. what is
specifically 'not delegated'?

The Constitution is about Power, the Bill of right is about Rights.
If the federal government is not given a particular Power in the body
of the Constitution, the Right to administer that is granted to the
states by the 10th amendment.

and nowhere does it mention a SPECIFIC 'power' of education that is
prohibited.

sorry


You have that backward, Nowhere does it GIVE the power to the feds.


in a manner of speaking, yes. unlike you, i'm a scientist. i think
rationally. i go with EVIDENCE


OK the EVIDENCE is in. The department of education is not effective.

the EVIDENCE is that local school board control is ineffective.

... and over 30 years of federal oversight has not fixed any of it.



you? you think like a child. you **** your diaper then want to blame
everyone else

the fact is local school board control does not work. it's a failure.

You were educated by a local school board.

what can i say. six sigma you know...

yep. i'm honored to say that i went to public school like most of the
middle class.

you? you're the spoiled brat of a privileged childhood who thinks the
middle class...and the black president...should know our place


I grew up in Southeast DC (the 9th ward now). I doubt you even
understand what that is or you wouldn't be blathering about "spoiled
brat of a privileged childhood". In fact my mother worked and I was
taken care of by a black woman (along with several black kids). That
is something Obama can't say.

and yet you despise him because he's black....

you must have hated your caretakers, too.

mom taught you that the darkies should always be servants, eh?

That is all you. Simply a figment of your imagination.
You are not a disgruntled beer truck driver are you?

Disgruntled my ass. He was a racist and when he got caught stealing
beer, clearly on tape and fired, he used the race card to excuse his
cowardly murder spree... So has the media.

I know liberals will believe he was harassed, simply because he said so
after killing 8 people (on the phone to the State Troopers). I mean,
look at what happened in Washington when those lying sack of ****
congressmen claimed racial slurs and spitting but with no less than 100
cameras going, not one person could find evidence of it even with a
reward of tens of thousands of dollars for the shot;)

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!

Greed is why there is no hiring...Corporate Greed
 

On 8/8/10 6:24 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On Sun, 08 Aug 2010 13:07:05 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 08 Aug 2010 12:44:15 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 08 Aug 2010 12:19:38 -0400, wrote:

meaningless. nothing the feds are doing is prohibited. what is
specifically 'not delegated'?

The Constitution is about Power, the Bill of right is about Rights.
If the federal government is not given a particular Power in the body
of the Constitution, the Right to administer that is granted to the
states by the 10th amendment.

and nowhere does it mention a SPECIFIC 'power' of education that is
prohibited.

sorry


You have that backward, Nowhere does it GIVE the power to the feds.


in a manner of speaking, yes. unlike you, i'm a scientist. i think
rationally. i go with EVIDENCE


OK the EVIDENCE is in. The department of education is not effective.

the EVIDENCE is that local school board control is ineffective.

... and over 30 years of federal oversight has not fixed any of it.



you? you think like a child. you **** your diaper then want to blame
everyone else

the fact is local school board control does not work. it's a failure.

You were educated by a local school board.

what can i say. six sigma you know...

yep. i'm honored to say that i went to public school like most of the
middle class.

you? you're the spoiled brat of a privileged childhood who thinks the
middle class...and the black president...should know our place


I grew up in Southeast DC (the 9th ward now). I doubt you even
understand what that is or you wouldn't be blathering about "spoiled
brat of a privileged childhood". In fact my mother worked and I was
taken care of by a black woman (along with several black kids). That
is something Obama can't say.

and yet you despise him because he's black....

you must have hated your caretakers, too.

mom taught you that the darkies should always be servants, eh?

That is all you. Simply a figment of your imagination.
You are not a disgruntled beer truck driver are you?

Disgruntled my ass. He was a racist and when he got caught stealing
beer, clearly on tape and fired, he used the race card to excuse his
cowardly murder spree... So has the media.

I know liberals will believe he was harassed, simply because he said so
after killing 8 people (on the phone to the State Troopers). I mean,
look at what happened in Washington when those lying sack of ****
congressmen claimed racial slurs and spitting but with no less than 100
cameras going, not one person could find evidence of it even with a
reward of tens of thousands of dollars for the shot;)



Actually, several of us thought you were the shooter.

Greed is why there is no hiring...Corporate Greed
 

"Harry " wrote in message
m...
On 8/8/10 6:24 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On Sun, 08 Aug 2010 13:07:05 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 08 Aug 2010 12:44:15 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 08 Aug 2010 12:19:38 -0400, wrote:

meaningless. nothing the feds are doing is prohibited. what is
specifically 'not delegated'?

The Constitution is about Power, the Bill of right is about Rights.
If the federal government is not given a particular Power in the body
of the Constitution, the Right to administer that is granted to the
states by the 10th amendment.

and nowhere does it mention a SPECIFIC 'power' of education that is
prohibited.

sorry


You have that backward, Nowhere does it GIVE the power to the feds.


in a manner of speaking, yes. unlike you, i'm a scientist. i think
rationally. i go with EVIDENCE


OK the EVIDENCE is in. The department of education is not effective.

the EVIDENCE is that local school board control is ineffective.

... and over 30 years of federal oversight has not fixed any of it.



you? you think like a child. you **** your diaper then want to blame
everyone else

the fact is local school board control does not work. it's a failure.

You were educated by a local school board.

what can i say. six sigma you know...

yep. i'm honored to say that i went to public school like most of the
middle class.

you? you're the spoiled brat of a privileged childhood who thinks the
middle class...and the black president...should know our place


I grew up in Southeast DC (the 9th ward now). I doubt you even
understand what that is or you wouldn't be blathering about "spoiled
brat of a privileged childhood". In fact my mother worked and I was
taken care of by a black woman (along with several black kids). That
is something Obama can't say.

and yet you despise him because he's black....

you must have hated your caretakers, too.

mom taught you that the darkies should always be servants, eh?

That is all you. Simply a figment of your imagination.
You are not a disgruntled beer truck driver are you?

Disgruntled my ass. He was a racist and when he got caught stealing
beer, clearly on tape and fired, he used the race card to excuse his
cowardly murder spree... So has the media.

I know liberals will believe he was harassed, simply because he said so
after killing 8 people (on the phone to the State Troopers). I mean,
look at what happened in Washington when those lying sack of ****
congressmen claimed racial slurs and spitting but with no less than 100
cameras going, not one person could find evidence of it even with a
reward of tens of thousands of dollars for the shot;)



Actually, several of us thought you were the shooter.

The Freak would probably shoot his own foot off if he played with firearms.

Greed is why there is no hiring...Corporate Greed
 

On Sun, 08 Aug 2010 17:07:13 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 08 Aug 2010 13:07:05 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

On Sun, 08 Aug 2010 12:44:15 -0400, wrote:


and nowhere does it mention a SPECIFIC 'power' of education that is
prohibited.

sorry


You have that backward, Nowhere does it GIVE the power to the feds.

prove that this power is prohibited to the feds


I grew up in Southeast DC (the 9th ward now). I doubt you even
understand what that is or you wouldn't be blathering about "spoiled
brat of a privileged childhood". In fact my mother worked and I was
taken care of by a black woman (along with several black kids). That
is something Obama can't say.

and yet you despise him because he's black....

you must have hated your caretakers, too.

mom taught you that the darkies should always be servants, eh?

That is all you. Simply a figment of your imagination.
You are not a disgruntled beer truck driver are you?

had 5 uncles and a grandfather who had good middle class jobs working
at iron city brewery.

but i'm sure you hate them because they were honest, hard working,
middle class union members

Greed is why there is no hiring...Corporate Greed
 

On Sun, 8 Aug 2010 14:09:18 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:





He professes to be a scientist and only deals in fact, yet on the other hand
resorts to labeling folks here with no basis in fact at all.



now let's see...virtually every single problem facing the US had its
origins in teh bush administration

yet the right refuses to say a single word about bush, instead blaming
EVERYTHING on the black president

now....why would they excuse a WHITE guy and blame a BLACK guy....

nah...couldnt be race...

Greed is why there is no hiring...Corporate Greed
 

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 8 Aug 2010 14:09:18 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:





He professes to be a scientist and only deals in fact, yet on the other
hand
resorts to labeling folks here with no basis in fact at all.



now let's see...virtually every single problem facing the US had its
origins in teh bush administration

yet the right refuses to say a single word about bush, instead blaming
EVERYTHING on the black president

now....why would they excuse a WHITE guy and blame a BLACK guy....

nah...couldnt be race...

The only problem with your post is bringing in the color card. Where would
your argument go it the current president was Caucasian and a democrat AND
the economic were the same? Let me guess, you'll say nobody would be
complaining.

Greed is why there is no hiring...Corporate Greed
 

On Sun, 08 Aug 2010 23:08:28 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 08 Aug 2010 21:35:39 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

On Sun, 08 Aug 2010 17:07:13 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 08 Aug 2010 13:07:05 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

On Sun, 08 Aug 2010 12:44:15 -0400, wrote:


and nowhere does it mention a SPECIFIC 'power' of education that is
prohibited.

sorry


You have that backward, Nowhere does it GIVE the power to the feds.

prove that this power is prohibited to the feds


I can't prove a negative.

precisely. which is why the constitution does not prohibit a US dept
of education

Obviously as long as the feds have the biggest guns and the most tax
payer funded lawyers, they will take any power they want. That does
not make it constitutional.

nor does it make it UNCONSTITUTIONAL.


Lets just agree to disagree about creeping federalism. It is clear you
would want federal firemen, cops and garbage men.

state govts generally oppress human rights. only the feds have the
power to break local elites and get SOME measure of power for the
middle class...until the right wing and the rich hijack that as well

If you had your way
we would abolish all state and local government and nationalize all
the corporations.

really? got proof of that? oh. none.

Of course that makes you the fascist here but we know you think the
central socialist government knows best. It worked so well for the
Soviets.

more paranoia. need some more tin foil for your hat? seems the gamma
rays are getting through

All I ask is if the government is so good at doing things, why do we
have Fed Ex, and UPS?

and if the private sector is so great why do we have BP and the most
expensive healthcare in the world, and a stock market that just pulled
11 trillion dollars out of the net worth of the US?

The Post Office should have put them out of business.They still can't
compete with private companies in spite of a huge taxpayer subsidy.

ah. private companies. yes. the ones who, on the backs of the mddle
class, raised productivity by 28% in the last 10 years....

and gave none of this to the middle class in the form of h igher
wages...then wonders why the middle class has no money

Greed is why there is no hiring...Corporate Greed
 

On Sun, 08 Aug 2010 23:10:00 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 08 Aug 2010 21:37:28 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

On Sun, 8 Aug 2010 14:09:18 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:





He professes to be a scientist and only deals in fact, yet on the other hand
resorts to labeling folks here with no basis in fact at all.



now let's see...virtually every single problem facing the US had its
origins in teh bush administration

yet the right refuses to say a single word about bush, instead blaming
EVERYTHING on the black president

now....why would they excuse a WHITE guy and blame a BLACK guy....

nah...couldnt be race...

I blame a lot of this financial cluster**** on Clinton and the first
Bush. Neither one of them are black.

well NOW you're starting to see the light. and the george bush that
just left office?

his tax cuts are responsible for most of our deficit. but the right
refuses, in a pravda like manner, to tell THAT story

Greed is why there is no hiring...Corporate Greed
 

On Sun, 8 Aug 2010 23:39:23 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:



"bpuharic" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 8 Aug 2010 14:09:18 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:





He professes to be a scientist and only deals in fact, yet on the other
hand
resorts to labeling folks here with no basis in fact at all.



now let's see...virtually every single problem facing the US had its
origins in teh bush administration

yet the right refuses to say a single word about bush, instead blaming
EVERYTHING on the black president

now....why would they excuse a WHITE guy and blame a BLACK guy....

nah...couldnt be race...

The only problem with your post is bringing in the color card. Where would
your argument go it the current president was Caucasian and a democrat AND
the economic were the same?

and would the right be blaming a white president like they blame
obama?

nope.

Greed is why there is no hiring...Corporate Greed
 

In article ,
says...

On 8/8/10 6:24 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On Sun, 08 Aug 2010 13:07:05 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 08 Aug 2010 12:44:15 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 08 Aug 2010 12:19:38 -0400, wrote:

meaningless. nothing the feds are doing is prohibited. what is
specifically 'not delegated'?

The Constitution is about Power, the Bill of right is about Rights.
If the federal government is not given a particular Power in the body
of the Constitution, the Right to administer that is granted to the
states by the 10th amendment.

and nowhere does it mention a SPECIFIC 'power' of education that is
prohibited.

sorry


You have that backward, Nowhere does it GIVE the power to the feds.


in a manner of speaking, yes. unlike you, i'm a scientist. i think
rationally. i go with EVIDENCE


OK the EVIDENCE is in. The department of education is not effective.

the EVIDENCE is that local school board control is ineffective.

... and over 30 years of federal oversight has not fixed any of it.



you? you think like a child. you **** your diaper then want to blame
everyone else

the fact is local school board control does not work. it's a failure.

You were educated by a local school board.

what can i say. six sigma you know...

yep. i'm honored to say that i went to public school like most of the
middle class.

you? you're the spoiled brat of a privileged childhood who thinks the
middle class...and the black president...should know our place


I grew up in Southeast DC (the 9th ward now). I doubt you even
understand what that is or you wouldn't be blathering about "spoiled
brat of a privileged childhood". In fact my mother worked and I was
taken care of by a black woman (along with several black kids). That
is something Obama can't say.

and yet you despise him because he's black....

you must have hated your caretakers, too.

mom taught you that the darkies should always be servants, eh?

That is all you. Simply a figment of your imagination.
You are not a disgruntled beer truck driver are you?

Disgruntled my ass. He was a racist and when he got caught stealing
beer, clearly on tape and fired, he used the race card to excuse his
cowardly murder spree... So has the media.

I know liberals will believe he was harassed, simply because he said so
after killing 8 people (on the phone to the State Troopers). I mean,
look at what happened in Washington when those lying sack of ****
congressmen claimed racial slurs and spitting but with no less than 100
cameras going, not one person could find evidence of it even with a
reward of tens of thousands of dollars for the shot;)



Actually, several of us thought you were the shooter.

Really spoofer? Who exactly?

--
The stupider you sound, the more Republican votes you'll get

Greed is why there is no hiring...Corporate Greed
 

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 8 Aug 2010 23:39:23 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:



"bpuharic" wrote in message
. ..
On Sun, 8 Aug 2010 14:09:18 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:





He professes to be a scientist and only deals in fact, yet on the other
hand
resorts to labeling folks here with no basis in fact at all.



now let's see...virtually every single problem facing the US had its
origins in teh bush administration

yet the right refuses to say a single word about bush, instead blaming
EVERYTHING on the black president

now....why would they excuse a WHITE guy and blame a BLACK guy....

nah...couldnt be race...

The only problem with your post is bringing in the color card. Where
would
your argument go it the current president was Caucasian and a democrat AND
the economic were the same?

and would the right be blaming a white president like they blame
obama?

nope.

Pure speculation on your part.

Greed is why there is no hiring...Corporate Greed
 

In article ,
k says...

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 8 Aug 2010 23:39:23 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:



"bpuharic" wrote in message
. ..
On Sun, 8 Aug 2010 14:09:18 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:





He professes to be a scientist and only deals in fact, yet on the other
hand
resorts to labeling folks here with no basis in fact at all.



now let's see...virtually every single problem facing the US had its
origins in teh bush administration

yet the right refuses to say a single word about bush, instead blaming
EVERYTHING on the black president

now....why would they excuse a WHITE guy and blame a BLACK guy....

nah...couldnt be race...

The only problem with your post is bringing in the color card. Where
would
your argument go it the current president was Caucasian and a democrat AND
the economic were the same?

and would the right be blaming a white president like they blame
obama?

nope.

Pure speculation on your part.

Really, when you consider the fact that we did when we (white voters)
voted Obama in. We blamed Bush so much we voted for a Democrat...

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!

Greed is why there is no hiring...Corporate Greed
 

On 8/9/10 10:10 AM, I am Tosk wrote:


Really, when you consider the fact that we did when we (white voters)
voted Obama in. We blamed Bush so much we voted for a Democrat...


Now the little **** is saying he voted for Obama.

snerk

Greed is why there is no hiring...Corporate Greed
 

"Harry @ news.east.earthlink.net" wrote in message
m...
On 8/9/10 10:10 AM, I am Tosk wrote:


Really, when you consider the fact that we did when we (white voters)
voted Obama in. We blamed Bush so much we voted for a Democrat...


Now the little **** is saying he voted for Obama.

snerk


Is that the way you read it? No wonder you are so ****ed up in the head.
Where does he say he, as an individual, voted for O'bama? You are a whole
lot dumber than you make yourself out to be.

Greed is why there is no hiring...Corporate Greed
 

On 8/9/10 10:59 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 06:00:56 -0400, wrote:

I blame a lot of this financial cluster**** on Clinton and the first
Bush. Neither one of them are black.

well NOW you're starting to see the light. and the george bush that
just left office?

his tax cuts are responsible for most of our deficit. but the right
refuses, in a pravda like manner, to tell THAT story

I have said a number of times, just let all of the tax cuts expire.

If you did just raise the 35% rate to 39% that would only raise
revenue about 6-7%, a drop in the bucket.
That assumes these people don't find ways to shelter more of their
income and with a 10,000 page tax code, that is likely.


39% is not enough.

49% on all income over $250,000, and that includes any income that can
be sheltered in any way.

Greed is why there is no hiring...Corporate Greed
 

On 8-Aug-2010, bpuharic wrote:

The United States Constitution does not specifically prohibit your from
from
being the cover boy for "Idiot Monthly" so please post your picture here
so
you can be on the cover of the next issue.

IOW you have no argument.

thanks. i already knew that....

nothing to see here folks...move along.

HEY! I have a great deal I bet you'd be interested in. For a limited time
only, I'm offering autographed photos of The Invisible Man standing in front
of Niagra Falls. These are normally $69.95 but to you, I'll let let 'em go
for $39.95! How many you want?

Greed is why there is no hiring...Corporate Greed
 

"Harry @ news.east.earthlink.net" wrote in message
m...
On 8/9/10 10:59 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 06:00:56 -0400, wrote:

I blame a lot of this financial cluster**** on Clinton and the first
Bush. Neither one of them are black.

well NOW you're starting to see the light. and the george bush that
just left office?

his tax cuts are responsible for most of our deficit. but the right
refuses, in a pravda like manner, to tell THAT story

I have said a number of times, just let all of the tax cuts expire.

If you did just raise the 35% rate to 39% that would only raise
revenue about 6-7%, a drop in the bucket.
That assumes these people don't find ways to shelter more of their
income and with a 10,000 page tax code, that is likely.


39% is not enough.

49% on all income over $250,000, and that includes any income that can be
sheltered in any way.


We know why you chose that figure. It's way over your potential earning
power.

Greed is why there is no hiring...Corporate Greed
 

On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 10:59:29 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 06:00:56 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

I blame a lot of this financial cluster**** on Clinton and the first
Bush. Neither one of them are black.

well NOW you're starting to see the light. and the george bush that
just left office?

his tax cuts are responsible for most of our deficit. but the right
refuses, in a pravda like manner, to tell THAT story

I have said a number of times, just let all of the tax cuts expire.

If you did just raise the 35% rate to 39% that would only raise
revenue about 6-7%, a drop in the bucket.
That assumes these people don't find ways to shelter more of their
income and with a 10,000 page tax code, that is likely.

I just love watching the liberals soil their pants over Bush's tax cuts when
they have all the power they need to 'fix' their problem.

I suppose pubhic would blame this on 'Wall Street'.

What a friggin' laugh.
--

John H

Greed is why there is no hiring...Corporate Greed
 

On 8-Aug-2010, wrote:

and nowhere does it prohibit the feds from funding education. local
boards have power. the feds have the money.

The amount of federal money given to local school boards is
insignificant compared to what is raised in local taxes.

Far more money is ****ed down the drain for "education" than the military
which has a far more important responsibility. If it is laundered through
the local assholes, the state, county/parish or the useless feds, it's the
same money, YOURS, or more likely, increasing minority of productive people.
Your kids still can't read, write or think. Do you seriously "think"
federal interference will make anyone more competent? It's not apparent the
way you assholes vote.

Greed is why there is no hiring...Corporate Greed
 

On 9-Aug-2010, bpuharic wrote:

prove that this power is prohibited to the feds


I can't prove a negative.

precisely. which is why the constitution does not prohibit a US dept
of education

I finally think you're right on one count based upon your "logic" - too bad
the constitution doesn't prohibit stupidity.

We need to give it up - he's either too you or too old to grasp the
constitution, or a union member. Or both.

Greed is why there is no hiring...Corporate Greed
 

On 8-Aug-2010, wrote:

now....why would they excuse a WHITE guy and blame a BLACK guy....

nah...couldnt be race...

I blame a lot of this financial cluster**** on Clinton and the first
Bush. Neither one of them are black.

Nor is Buckwheat.

Greed is why there is no hiring...Corporate Greed
 

On 9-Aug-2010, wrote:

well NOW you're starting to see the light. and the george bush that
just left office?

his tax cuts are responsible for most of our deficit. but the right
refuses, in a pravda like manner, to tell THAT story

I have said a number of times, just let all of the tax cuts expire.

If you did just raise the 35% rate to 39% that would only raise
revenue about 6-7%, a drop in the bucket.
That assumes these people don't find ways to shelter more of their
income and with a 10,000 page tax code, that is likely.

The best part of the coming tax increases is the increase in the lowest tax
bracket from 10% to 15%. That's a fifty percent increase. It's about time
the unwashed start pulling their own weight.

Greed is why there is no hiring...Corporate Greed
 

On 8/9/10 11:21 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 11:04:08 -0400, "Harry @ news.east.earthlink.net"
wrote:

On 8/9/10 10:59 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 06:00:56 -0400, wrote:

I blame a lot of this financial cluster**** on Clinton and the first
Bush. Neither one of them are black.

well NOW you're starting to see the light. and the george bush that
just left office?

his tax cuts are responsible for most of our deficit. but the right
refuses, in a pravda like manner, to tell THAT story

I have said a number of times, just let all of the tax cuts expire.

If you did just raise the 35% rate to 39% that would only raise
revenue about 6-7%, a drop in the bucket.
That assumes these people don't find ways to shelter more of their
income and with a 10,000 page tax code, that is likely.


39% is not enough.

49% on all income over $250,000, and that includes any income that can
be sheltered in any way.

Anything other than simply letting them all expire will require new
legislation and that will open up as many loopholes as it closes.


So...once again, your solution is...do nothing about anything.

Greed is why there is no hiring...Corporate Greed
 

"Harry @ news.east.earthlink.net" wrote in message
m...
On 8/9/10 11:21 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 11:04:08 -0400, "Harry @ news.east.earthlink.net"
wrote:

On 8/9/10 10:59 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 06:00:56 -0400, wrote:

I blame a lot of this financial cluster**** on Clinton and the first
Bush. Neither one of them are black.

well NOW you're starting to see the light. and the george bush that
just left office?

his tax cuts are responsible for most of our deficit. but the right
refuses, in a pravda like manner, to tell THAT story

I have said a number of times, just let all of the tax cuts expire.

If you did just raise the 35% rate to 39% that would only raise
revenue about 6-7%, a drop in the bucket.
That assumes these people don't find ways to shelter more of their
income and with a 10,000 page tax code, that is likely.


39% is not enough.

49% on all income over $250,000, and that includes any income that can
be sheltered in any way.

Anything other than simply letting them all expire will require new
legislation and that will open up as many loopholes as it closes.


So...once again, your solution is...do nothing about anything.

So once again you prove you are an illiterate dumbfoch.

The OBAMA motto: We've got what it takes, to take what you've got!

Greed is why there is no hiring...Corporate Greed
 

In article ,
says...

On 8/9/10 10:59 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 06:00:56 -0400, wrote:

I blame a lot of this financial cluster**** on Clinton and the first
Bush. Neither one of them are black.

well NOW you're starting to see the light. and the george bush that
just left office?

his tax cuts are responsible for most of our deficit. but the right
refuses, in a pravda like manner, to tell THAT story

I have said a number of times, just let all of the tax cuts expire.

If you did just raise the 35% rate to 39% that would only raise
revenue about 6-7%, a drop in the bucket.
That assumes these people don't find ways to shelter more of their
income and with a 10,000 page tax code, that is likely.


39% is not enough.

49% on all income over $250,000, and that includes any income that can
be sheltered in any way.

That would leave me out of that bracket, but what about my lovely
southern belle Dr. Dr. Dr. wife?

--
The stupider you sound, the more Republican votes you'll get

Greed is why there is no hiring...Corporate Greed
 

In article ,
says...

"Harry @ news.east.earthlink.net" wrote in message
m...
On 8/9/10 10:59 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 06:00:56 -0400, wrote:

I blame a lot of this financial cluster**** on Clinton and the first
Bush. Neither one of them are black.

well NOW you're starting to see the light. and the george bush that
just left office?

his tax cuts are responsible for most of our deficit. but the right
refuses, in a pravda like manner, to tell THAT story

I have said a number of times, just let all of the tax cuts expire.

If you did just raise the 35% rate to 39% that would only raise
revenue about 6-7%, a drop in the bucket.
That assumes these people don't find ways to shelter more of their
income and with a 10,000 page tax code, that is likely.


39% is not enough.

49% on all income over $250,000, and that includes any income that can be
sheltered in any way.


We know why you chose that figure. It's way over your potential earning
power.

Hey, dumfoch, I have a Dr. Dr. Dr. wife.

--
The stupider you sound, the more Republican votes you'll get