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Larry[_26_] July 31st 10 12:39 AM

Who doesn't pay taxes and why
 
I don't make it a point to post political crap here but Bob has been
obsessing over this subject for too long. Here is an unbiased report on
taxes as they are today....

http://www.smartmoney.com/personal-f...axes/?cid=1231

Canuck57[_9_] July 31st 10 12:50 AM

Who doesn't pay taxes and why
 
On 30/07/2010 5:39 PM, Larry wrote:

I don't make it a point to post political crap here but Bob has been
obsessing over this subject for too long. Here is an unbiased report on
taxes as they are today....

http://www.smartmoney.com/personal-f...axes/?cid=1231


I expect the democrats will be closing those loop holes. They need to
cover the trillions of overspend.

But is why I bet they like VAT, covers and gets everyone. A 10% US VAT.

Boating will never be the same.

--
We are all self-made, but only the rich will admit it.

bpuharic July 31st 10 03:52 AM

Who doesn't pay taxes and why
 
On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 19:39:06 -0400, Larry wrote:

I don't make it a point to post political crap here but Bob has been
obsessing over this subject for too long. Here is an unbiased report on
taxes as they are today....

http://www.smartmoney.com/personal-f...axes/?cid=1231


uh...the article focuses on FEDERAL income tax

the rich often dont pay these either. except that, rather than
spending money on such non essentials as kids, mortgage payments,
healthcare, they spend their money on $6000 umbrella stands, maybach
cars, 2nd homes in the bahamas, etc.

and the middle class DOES pay state and local taxes which are
REGRESSIVE.

so your point is

1. old news
2. irrelevant
3 proves my point that the rich get away with murder while leaving the
middle class to do the heavy lifting

bpuharic July 31st 10 03:53 AM

Who doesn't pay taxes and why
 
On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:50:49 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 30/07/2010 5:39 PM, Larry wrote:

I don't make it a point to post political crap here but Bob has been
obsessing over this subject for too long. Here is an unbiased report on
taxes as they are today....

http://www.smartmoney.com/personal-f...axes/?cid=1231


I expect the democrats will be closing those loop holes. They need to
cover the trillions of overspend.

biggest factor in the current deficit?

bush's tax cuts for the rich


Bill McKee July 31st 10 05:47 AM

Who doesn't pay taxes and why
 

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:50:49 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 30/07/2010 5:39 PM, Larry wrote:

I don't make it a point to post political crap here but Bob has been
obsessing over this subject for too long. Here is an unbiased report on
taxes as they are today....

http://www.smartmoney.com/personal-f...axes/?cid=1231


I expect the democrats will be closing those loop holes. They need to
cover the trillions of overspend.

biggest factor in the current deficit?

bush's tax cuts for the rich


Biggest factor in the current deficit is gross Federal overspending! Same
reason that California and most other states are going bankrupt. Same
reason people go bankrupt most of the time. Overspend. Most of the home
foreclosures are because people overspent for the houses!



nom=de=plume[_2_] July 31st 10 06:16 AM

Who doesn't pay taxes and why
 

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m...

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:50:49 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 30/07/2010 5:39 PM, Larry wrote:

I don't make it a point to post political crap here but Bob has been
obsessing over this subject for too long. Here is an unbiased report on
taxes as they are today....

http://www.smartmoney.com/personal-f...axes/?cid=1231

I expect the democrats will be closing those loop holes. They need to
cover the trillions of overspend.

biggest factor in the current deficit?

bush's tax cuts for the rich


Biggest factor in the current deficit is gross Federal overspending! Same
reason that California and most other states are going bankrupt. Same
reason people go bankrupt most of the time. Overspend. Most of the home
foreclosures are because people overspent for the houses!


Nope. You're wrong as usual.



bpuharic July 31st 10 02:51 PM

Who doesn't pay taxes and why
 
On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 21:47:47 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"bpuharic" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:50:49 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 30/07/2010 5:39 PM, Larry wrote:

I don't make it a point to post political crap here but Bob has been
obsessing over this subject for too long. Here is an unbiased report on
taxes as they are today....

http://www.smartmoney.com/personal-f...axes/?cid=1231

I expect the democrats will be closing those loop holes. They need to
cover the trillions of overspend.

biggest factor in the current deficit?

bush's tax cuts for the rich


Biggest factor in the current deficit is gross Federal overspending!


meaningless generalization.

instead of right wing bull****, why not go with the evidence...which
would cause your right wing head to explode:

http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3036


Same
reason that California and most other states are going bankrupt. Same
reason people go bankrupt most of the time. Overspend. Most of the home
foreclosures are because people overspent for the houses!


gee. funny that all this 'overspending' just happened in the last few
years.

what really happened was that bush overspent on useless wars, cut
taxes on the rich who then spent it on blowing out the economy

Larry[_27_] August 1st 10 01:16 AM

Who doesn't pay taxes and why
 
bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 21:47:47 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


wrote in message
...

On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:50:49 -0600,
wrote:


On 30/07/2010 5:39 PM, Larry wrote:


I don't make it a point to post political crap here but Bob has been
obsessing over this subject for too long. Here is an unbiased report on
taxes as they are today....

http://www.smartmoney.com/personal-f...axes/?cid=1231

I expect the democrats will be closing those loop holes. They need to
cover the trillions of overspend.


biggest factor in the current deficit?

bush's tax cuts for the rich


Biggest factor in the current deficit is gross Federal overspending!

meaningless generalization.

instead of right wing bull****, why not go with the evidence...which
would cause your right wing head to explode:

http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3036


Same

reason that California and most other states are going bankrupt. Same
reason people go bankrupt most of the time. Overspend. Most of the home
foreclosures are because people overspent for the houses!


gee. funny that all this 'overspending' just happened in the last few
years.

what really happened was that bush overspent on useless wars, cut
taxes on the rich who then spent it on blowing out the economy

"Near term deficits"??? Is that 20 years or 120 years?

bpuharic August 1st 10 03:07 AM

Who doesn't pay taxes and why
 
On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 20:16:52 -0400, Larry wrote:

bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 21:47:47 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:





gee. funny that all this 'overspending' just happened in the last few
years.

what really happened was that bush overspent on useless wars, cut
taxes on the rich who then spent it on blowing out the economy

"Near term deficits"??? Is that 20 years or 120 years?


ask reagan. he started the massive tax cuts for the rich


Bill McKee August 1st 10 07:12 AM

Who doesn't pay taxes and why
 

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 21:47:47 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"bpuharic" wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:50:49 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 30/07/2010 5:39 PM, Larry wrote:

I don't make it a point to post political crap here but Bob has been
obsessing over this subject for too long. Here is an unbiased report
on
taxes as they are today....

http://www.smartmoney.com/personal-f...axes/?cid=1231

I expect the democrats will be closing those loop holes. They need to
cover the trillions of overspend.

biggest factor in the current deficit?

bush's tax cuts for the rich


Biggest factor in the current deficit is gross Federal overspending!


meaningless generalization.

instead of right wing bull****, why not go with the evidence...which
would cause your right wing head to explode:

http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3036


Same
reason that California and most other states are going bankrupt. Same
reason people go bankrupt most of the time. Overspend. Most of the home
foreclosures are because people overspent for the houses!


gee. funny that all this 'overspending' just happened in the last few
years.

what really happened was that bush overspent on useless wars, cut
taxes on the rich who then spent it on blowing out the economy


The Feds and the States have been overspending for years. Clinton Era was
even worse. They had a huge bubble of money from the Dot.com bubble and
committed that money in to future spending as if the money was going to flow
forever. California increased spending 37% in f4 years under Governor
Davis. We recalled him for excess fiscal irresponsibility. So we put in
the Governator. Arnie. He increased spending 39% in his first 4 years.
Basically in 8 years we doubled the budget. Same thing happened on the
Federal level. Bush overspent, Clinton Overspent. Just that Clinton had a
big bubble of income to hide his overspending. Look at the budget for his 8
years. How much did it go up? Obama is spending money we do not have at an
astronomical rate. May need to fix my Orion Short Tube telescope to see the
money in a short time. How may people have spent themselves out of debt?



bpuharic August 1st 10 12:01 PM

Who doesn't pay taxes and why
 
On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 23:12:26 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:




The Feds and the States have been overspending for years. Clinton Era was
even worse. They had a huge bubble of money from the Dot.com bubble and
committed that money in to future spending as if the money was going to flow
forever.


biggest spending package in recent years?

bush spent a trillion in iraq.

bush inherited a surplus and a balanced budget. then he gave away
trillions to the rich in the form of tax cuts and increased deficit
spending to 9% of GDP


Obama is spending money we do not have at an
astronomical rate. May need to fix my Orion Short Tube telescope to see the
money in a short time. How may people have spent themselves out of debt?


the ramp up in spending happened under bush due to his depression
causing spending and tax policies

but, bush is white you see...so he can't be blamed...



Bill McKee August 1st 10 07:30 PM

Who doesn't pay taxes and why
 

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 23:12:26 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:




The Feds and the States have been overspending for years. Clinton Era was
even worse. They had a huge bubble of money from the Dot.com bubble and
committed that money in to future spending as if the money was going to
flow
forever.


biggest spending package in recent years?

bush spent a trillion in iraq.

bush inherited a surplus and a balanced budget. then he gave away
trillions to the rich in the form of tax cuts and increased deficit
spending to 9% of GDP


Obama is spending money we do not have at an
astronomical rate. May need to fix my Orion Short Tube telescope to see
the
money in a short time. How may people have spent themselves out of debt?


the ramp up in spending happened under bush due to his depression
causing spending and tax policies

but, bush is white you see...so he can't be blamed...



Bush is past. As I stated define what Obama is and has accomplished. Just
like the Dem's in the fall election. They are not going to be able to claim
it is Bush's fault. He has been gone 2 years, and Congress has been
Democrat controlled for 4 years.



Jim August 1st 10 07:34 PM

Who doesn't pay taxes and why
 
bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 23:12:26 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


The Feds and the States have been overspending for years. Clinton Era was
even worse. They had a huge bubble of money from the Dot.com bubble and
committed that money in to future spending as if the money was going to flow
forever.


biggest spending package in recent years?

bush spent a trillion in iraq.

bush inherited a surplus and a balanced budget. then he gave away
trillions to the rich in the form of tax cuts and increased deficit
spending to 9% of GDP


When Bush went on his spending spree to run up the debt I thought he had
a purpose in his fiscal irresponsibility.
Get America to the point where SS and Medicare can't be funded and as
much wealth as possible has been transferred to the rich.
Don't really know if he thought that out, but that's what I saw as the
result coming.
What other purpose could the Republican party have in mind?
The redistribution of wealth has worked well.
SS and Medicare will be too tough.
We'll see what happens when that Presidential commission on balancing
the budget comes in with its findings.
If they say cut SS and Medicare for middle class and lower income groups
the first thing that will be said to that commission is,
"Non-millionaires who voted to cut SS and Medicare please step forward."
Won't be any movement.
That commission is loaded with millionaires, including some of the Dems.
Rep Paul Ryan (R), that clean-cut boy still wanting to privatize SS
because he has the American people's interest in heart?
Multi-millionaire.
The SS and Medicare cuts won't fly unless the American public are even
bigger suckers than I think.
More likely they'll reduce payments to medical providers and get them
whining. The "medical industry" can't survive without the gov, as
that's a huge part of their income. If the docs whine too hard about
not pulling down $500k average we just import some Indians and Chinamen
to do that work. The old farts on medicare don't care who's keeping
them alive, so long as they ain't paying for it.
It always gets down to "class warfare."
Just how it works when money is the most important thing in the world.
Probably always has been and always will be.
Hell, I don't want nobody cutting my SS and Medicare, so I ain't no
different.
Get right down to it, you ain't paying enough taxes for that income of
yours. You're a rich guy to me.
Hey Bob, catch the Chelsea Clinton wedding?
One investment banker marrying another. The CDO people.
The good ole boy "man of people" Bill Clinton sure knows how to raise a
kid right. Of course he was the continuation of Ronnie Raygun.
Wouldn't expect his kid to be a social worker.

Jim - Observer.




nom=de=plume[_2_] August 1st 10 10:33 PM

Who doesn't pay taxes and why
 

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m...

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 23:12:26 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:




The Feds and the States have been overspending for years. Clinton Era
was
even worse. They had a huge bubble of money from the Dot.com bubble and
committed that money in to future spending as if the money was going to
flow
forever.


biggest spending package in recent years?

bush spent a trillion in iraq.

bush inherited a surplus and a balanced budget. then he gave away
trillions to the rich in the form of tax cuts and increased deficit
spending to 9% of GDP


Obama is spending money we do not have at an
astronomical rate. May need to fix my Orion Short Tube telescope to see
the
money in a short time. How may people have spent themselves out of debt?


the ramp up in spending happened under bush due to his depression
causing spending and tax policies

but, bush is white you see...so he can't be blamed...



Bush is past. As I stated define what Obama is and has accomplished.
Just like the Dem's in the fall election. They are not going to be able
to claim it is Bush's fault. He has been gone 2 years, and Congress has
been Democrat controlled for 4 years.


It's already been done. Sorry you're unable to read.



bpuharic August 2nd 10 02:31 AM

Who doesn't pay taxes and why
 
On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 11:30:42 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"bpuharic" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 23:12:26 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:




Obama is spending money we do not have at an
astronomical rate. May need to fix my Orion Short Tube telescope to see
the
money in a short time. How may people have spent themselves out of debt?


the ramp up in spending happened under bush due to his depression
causing spending and tax policies

but, bush is white you see...so he can't be blamed...



Bush is past


more right wing bull****. if a person shoots and kills you should your
family forget it because it's in the past?

.. As I stated define what Obama is and has accomplished. Just
like the Dem's in the fall election. They are not going to be able to claim
it is Bush's fault. He has been gone 2 years, and Congress has been
Democrat controlled for 4 years.


gee. how long volker take to pull the economy out of the tallspin in
the 80's?

about 2 years. and that was mild compared to this one

you just want to ignore bush because he's white



nom=de=plume[_2_] August 2nd 10 03:11 AM

Who doesn't pay taxes and why
 

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 11:30:42 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"bpuharic" wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 23:12:26 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:




Obama is spending money we do not have at an
astronomical rate. May need to fix my Orion Short Tube telescope to see
the
money in a short time. How may people have spent themselves out of
debt?

the ramp up in spending happened under bush due to his depression
causing spending and tax policies

but, bush is white you see...so he can't be blamed...



Bush is past


more right wing bull****. if a person shoots and kills you should your
family forget it because it's in the past?

. As I stated define what Obama is and has accomplished. Just
like the Dem's in the fall election. They are not going to be able to
claim
it is Bush's fault. He has been gone 2 years, and Congress has been
Democrat controlled for 4 years.


gee. how long volker take to pull the economy out of the tallspin in
the 80's?

about 2 years. and that was mild compared to this one

you just want to ignore bush because he's white



I think he wants to ignore the facts because Mr. MaGoo isn't too bright.



Bill McKee August 2nd 10 09:47 AM

Who doesn't pay taxes and why
 

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 11:30:42 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"bpuharic" wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 23:12:26 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:




Obama is spending money we do not have at an
astronomical rate. May need to fix my Orion Short Tube telescope to see
the
money in a short time. How may people have spent themselves out of
debt?

the ramp up in spending happened under bush due to his depression
causing spending and tax policies

but, bush is white you see...so he can't be blamed...



Bush is past


more right wing bull****. if a person shoots and kills you should your
family forget it because it's in the past?

. As I stated define what Obama is and has accomplished. Just
like the Dem's in the fall election. They are not going to be able to
claim
it is Bush's fault. He has been gone 2 years, and Congress has been
Democrat controlled for 4 years.


gee. how long volker take to pull the economy out of the tallspin in
the 80's?

about 2 years. and that was mild compared to this one

you just want to ignore bush because he's white



You just want to ignore your chosen one is a disappointment.



Harry ?? August 2nd 10 10:04 AM

Who doesn't pay taxes and why
 
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m...

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 23:12:26 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:




The Feds and the States have been overspending for years. Clinton Era
was
even worse. They had a huge bubble of money from the Dot.com bubble and
committed that money in to future spending as if the money was going to
flow
forever.

biggest spending package in recent years?

bush spent a trillion in iraq.

bush inherited a surplus and a balanced budget. then he gave away
trillions to the rich in the form of tax cuts and increased deficit
spending to 9% of GDP


Obama is spending money we do not have at an
astronomical rate. May need to fix my Orion Short Tube telescope to see
the
money in a short time. How may people have spent themselves out of
debt?

the ramp up in spending happened under bush due to his depression
causing spending and tax policies

but, bush is white you see...so he can't be blamed...



Bush is past. As I stated define what Obama is and has accomplished.
Just like the Dem's in the fall election. They are not going to be able
to claim it is Bush's fault. He has been gone 2 years, and Congress has
been Democrat controlled for 4 years.


It's already been done. Sorry you're unable to read.



What's been done,dumb bunny? We can't read your.



Harry ?? August 2nd 10 10:10 AM

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"Harry ??" wrote in message
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"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m...

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 23:12:26 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:




The Feds and the States have been overspending for years. Clinton Era
was
even worse. They had a huge bubble of money from the Dot.com bubble
and
committed that money in to future spending as if the money was going to
flow
forever.

biggest spending package in recent years?

bush spent a trillion in iraq.

bush inherited a surplus and a balanced budget. then he gave away
trillions to the rich in the form of tax cuts and increased deficit
spending to 9% of GDP


Obama is spending money we do not have at an
astronomical rate. May need to fix my Orion Short Tube telescope to
see the
money in a short time. How may people have spent themselves out of
debt?

the ramp up in spending happened under bush due to his depression
causing spending and tax policies

but, bush is white you see...so he can't be blamed...



Bush is past. As I stated define what Obama is and has accomplished.
Just like the Dem's in the fall election. They are not going to be able
to claim it is Bush's fault. He has been gone 2 years, and Congress has
been Democrat controlled for 4 years.


It's already been done. Sorry you're unable to read.



What's been done,dumb bunny? We can't read your (mind).





bpuharic August 2nd 10 11:10 AM

Who doesn't pay taxes and why
 
On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 01:47:07 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"bpuharic" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 11:30:42 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:

about 2 years. and that was mild compared to this one

you just want to ignore bush because he's white



You just want to ignore your chosen one is a disappointment.


a guy who passed healthcare reform AND wall street reform is a
disappointment/

to the extreme right, i suppose he is.....not to real americans though



nom=de=plume[_2_] August 2nd 10 06:12 PM

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"Harry ??" wrote in message
...
"Harry ??" wrote in message
...
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m...

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 23:12:26 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:




The Feds and the States have been overspending for years. Clinton Era
was
even worse. They had a huge bubble of money from the Dot.com bubble
and
committed that money in to future spending as if the money was going
to flow
forever.

biggest spending package in recent years?

bush spent a trillion in iraq.

bush inherited a surplus and a balanced budget. then he gave away
trillions to the rich in the form of tax cuts and increased deficit
spending to 9% of GDP


Obama is spending money we do not have at an
astronomical rate. May need to fix my Orion Short Tube telescope to
see the
money in a short time. How may people have spent themselves out of
debt?

the ramp up in spending happened under bush due to his depression
causing spending and tax policies

but, bush is white you see...so he can't be blamed...



Bush is past. As I stated define what Obama is and has accomplished.
Just like the Dem's in the fall election. They are not going to be
able to claim it is Bush's fault. He has been gone 2 years, and
Congress has been Democrat controlled for 4 years.


It's already been done. Sorry you're unable to read.



What's been done,dumb bunny? We can't read your (mind).





You're so caught up in your fever pitch to put me down that you can't even
control yourself. I really feel sorry for you, but I won't be responding
much any more. You're a moron and even worse boring.



Bill McKee August 2nd 10 06:27 PM

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"bpuharic" wrote in message
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On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 01:47:07 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"bpuharic" wrote in message
. ..
On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 11:30:42 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:

about 2 years. and that was mild compared to this one

you just want to ignore bush because he's white



You just want to ignore your chosen one is a disappointment.


a guy who passed healthcare reform AND wall street reform is a
disappointment/

to the extreme right, i suppose he is.....not to real americans though



Health care reform? Wall Stret reform? LOL!



nom=de=plume[_2_] August 2nd 10 06:40 PM

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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m...

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 01:47:07 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"bpuharic" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 11:30:42 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:

about 2 years. and that was mild compared to this one

you just want to ignore bush because he's white



You just want to ignore your chosen one is a disappointment.


a guy who passed healthcare reform AND wall street reform is a
disappointment/

to the extreme right, i suppose he is.....not to real americans though



Health care reform? Wall Stret reform? LOL!


Maybe they're a laugh for you, but for millions they're a welcome relief.
Millions more able to get insurance, denial of pre-existing conditions
restrictions, kids can stay on their parent's plans longer, a consumer
protection agency, a way to wind down failing megabanks, etc., etc. But,
you've got yours, so screw everyone else.



Harry ? August 2nd 10 06:41 PM

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: The Feds and the States have been overspending for years. Clinton
Era
: was
: even worse. They had a huge bubble of money from the Dot.com bubble
: and
: committed that money in to future spending as if the money was going
: to flow
: forever.
:
: biggest spending package in recent years?
:
: bush spent a trillion in iraq.
:
: bush inherited a surplus and a balanced budget. then he gave away
: trillions to the rich in the form of tax cuts and increased deficit
: spending to 9% of GDP
:
:
: Obama is spending money we do not have at an
: astronomical rate. May need to fix my Orion Short Tube telescope to
: see the
: money in a short time. How may people have spent themselves out of
: debt?
:
: the ramp up in spending happened under bush due to his depression
: causing spending and tax policies
:
: but, bush is white you see...so he can't be blamed...
:
:
:
: Bush is past. As I stated define what Obama is and has accomplished.
: Just like the Dem's in the fall election. They are not going to be
: able to claim it is Bush's fault. He has been gone 2 years, and
: Congress has been Democrat controlled for 4 years.
:
:
: It's already been done. Sorry you're unable to read.
:
:
:
: What's been done,dumb bunny? We can't read your (mind).
:
:
:
:
: You're so caught up in your fever pitch to put me down that you can't even
: control yourself. I really feel sorry for you, but I won't be responding
: much any more. You're a moron and even worse boring.
:
:

Pot Kettle Black


John H[_2_] August 2nd 10 09:04 PM

Who doesn't pay taxes and why
 
On Jul 30, 7:50*pm, Canuck57 wrote:
On 30/07/2010 5:39 PM, Larry wrote:

I don't make it a point to post political crap here but Bob has been
obsessing over this subject for too long. Here is an unbiased report on
taxes as they are today....


http://www.smartmoney.com/personal-f...eople-opt-out-...


I expect the democrats will be closing those loop holes. *They need to
cover the trillions of overspend.

But is why I bet they like VAT, covers and gets everyone. *A 10% US VAT..

Boating will never be the same.

--
We are all self-made, but only the rich will admit it.


I belive that VAT will not affect the 'poor', IOW those who don't pay
taxes now. They will initially pay the tax, and then be able to get a
credit for it on their 'income tax'. That distributes wealth and helps
out the 'poor'. They'll be able to afford that 60" HDTV set.

bpuharic August 2nd 10 09:54 PM

Who doesn't pay taxes and why
 
On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 10:27:02 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"bpuharic" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 01:47:07 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


to the extreme right, i suppose he is.....not to real americans though



Health care reform? Wall Stret reform? LOL!


well, you're right wing so are clueless

oh...what did the GOP do in the last 10 years?

answer: nothing



Bill McKee August 3rd 10 08:31 AM

Who doesn't pay taxes and why
 

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 10:27:02 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"bpuharic" wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 01:47:07 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


to the extreme right, i suppose he is.....not to real americans though



Health care reform? Wall Stret reform? LOL!


well, you're right wing so are clueless

oh...what did the GOP do in the last 10 years?

answer: nothing



Answer: Same thing the Dem's are doing to us now. Screwing us.



bpuharic August 3rd 10 10:51 AM

Who doesn't pay taxes and why
 
On Tue, 3 Aug 2010 00:31:40 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"bpuharic" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 10:27:02 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"bpuharic" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 01:47:07 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


to the extreme right, i suppose he is.....not to real americans though



Health care reform? Wall Stret reform? LOL!


well, you're right wing so are clueless

oh...what did the GOP do in the last 10 years?

answer: nothing



Answer: Same thing the Dem's are doing to us now. Screwing us.


at least this is a start...not blaming the black president



Harry  August 3rd 10 05:18 PM

Who doesn't pay taxes and why
 
On 8/3/10 12:16 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 05:51:01 -0400, wrote:

oh...what did the GOP do in the last 10 years?

answer: nothing



Answer: Same thing the Dem's are doing to us now. Screwing us.


at least this is a start...not blaming the black president



The last I read, you were blaming your woes on every president since
the waning days of the Nixon administration.
I guess we don't have to watch Dylan Ratigan. He says something at 4PM
and it is posted here by dinner time.


I watched part of his show once. He's an asshole.

nom=de=plume[_2_] August 3rd 10 07:14 PM

Who doesn't pay taxes and why
 

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
...

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 10:27:02 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"bpuharic" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 01:47:07 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


to the extreme right, i suppose he is.....not to real americans though



Health care reform? Wall Stret reform? LOL!


well, you're right wing so are clueless

oh...what did the GOP do in the last 10 years?

answer: nothing



Answer: Same thing the Dem's are doing to us now. Screwing us.


I think you're self-screwing. Oh wait, there's another word for that...



nom=de=plume[_2_] August 3rd 10 07:15 PM

Who doesn't pay taxes and why
 

wrote in message
...
On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 12:18:03 -0400, Harry ?
wrote:

On 8/3/10 12:16 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 05:51:01 -0400, wrote:

oh...what did the GOP do in the last 10 years?

answer: nothing



Answer: Same thing the Dem's are doing to us now. Screwing us.

at least this is a start...not blaming the black president



The last I read, you were blaming your woes on every president since
the waning days of the Nixon administration.
I guess we don't have to watch Dylan Ratigan. He says something at 4PM
and it is posted here by dinner time.


I watched part of his show once. He's an asshole.


Bob will get you for that ;-)

I only watched Ratigan a few times but it is clear he is Bob's
favorite source. I heard the same things I see posted here.


This is someone on MSNBC? I've never seen his show.



Harry[_5_] August 3rd 10 07:25 PM

Who doesn't pay taxes and why
 
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
...

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 10:27:02 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"bpuharic" wrote in message
m...
On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 01:47:07 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


to the extreme right, i suppose he is.....not to real americans though



Health care reform? Wall Stret reform? LOL!

well, you're right wing so are clueless

oh...what did the GOP do in the last 10 years?

answer: nothing



Answer: Same thing the Dem's are doing to us now. Screwing us.


I think you're self-screwing. Oh wait, there's another word for that...



Oh wait......... Did plume say she gave herself a STD? Too funny.


Jim August 3rd 10 09:45 PM

Who doesn't pay taxes and why
 
nom=de=plume wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 12:18:03 -0400, Harry ?
wrote:

On 8/3/10 12:16 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 05:51:01 -0400, wrote:

oh...what did the GOP do in the last 10 years?

answer: nothing



Answer: Same thing the Dem's are doing to us now. Screwing us.

at least this is a start...not blaming the black president



The last I read, you were blaming your woes on every president since
the waning days of the Nixon administration.
I guess we don't have to watch Dylan Ratigan. He says something at 4PM
and it is posted here by dinner time.

I watched part of his show once. He's an asshole.


Bob will get you for that ;-)

I only watched Ratigan a few times but it is clear he is Bob's
favorite source. I heard the same things I see posted here.


This is someone on MSNBC? I've never seen his show.


He's a financial/political reporter who knows the financial markets up
and down, originally reporting for Bloomberg.
He doesn't play left/right favorites, and unlike other reporters doesn't
kiss political ass or ask the usual shallow questions.
You can easily find vid clips of him laying out the facts to politicians
of all stripes.
He doesn't like any of them who game away from the facts.
I would guess you'd like him, depending on how far you fell off a
political edge.
He seems to me an old-time capitalist with a social conscience.
Basically, CEO's making 50 times average employees salary is fine if
they are adding to the economy.
CEO's making 500 times average employee salary while destroying the
economy isn't fine.
But you already got the best recommendation for Ratigan right here.
Both gfretwell and Krause don't like him.
Krause doesn't like anybody.
gfretwell loves Wall Street.
Ratigan suffers no such weaknesses.
As far as Bob reflecting Ratigan, that's a poor reading from gfretwell.
"Destruction of the middle class" talk is all over the place.
The left blames Wall Street, the right blames Obama.
Bob sounds much more like an Ed Shultz fan.

Jim - Green eye shades.



bpuharic August 3rd 10 10:36 PM

Who doesn't pay taxes and why
 
On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 12:16:17 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 05:51:01 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

oh...what did the GOP do in the last 10 years?

answer: nothing



Answer: Same thing the Dem's are doing to us now. Screwing us.


at least this is a start...not blaming the black president



The last I read, you were blaming your woes on every president since
the waning days of the Nixon administration.


pretty much the case. most of them have been right wing. the middle
class only get a raise in democratic regimes

Charles C. August 3rd 10 11:11 PM

Who doesn't pay taxes and why
 


"Jim" wrote in message
...

Bob sounds much more like an Ed Shultz fan.


Exactly.

CC


I am Tosk August 4th 10 02:21 PM

Who doesn't pay taxes and why
 
In article , says...

nom=de=plume wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 12:18:03 -0400, Harry ?
wrote:

On 8/3/10 12:16 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 05:51:01 -0400, wrote:

oh...what did the GOP do in the last 10 years?

answer: nothing



Answer: Same thing the Dem's are doing to us now. Screwing us.

at least this is a start...not blaming the black president



The last I read, you were blaming your woes on every president since
the waning days of the Nixon administration.
I guess we don't have to watch Dylan Ratigan. He says something at 4PM
and it is posted here by dinner time.

I watched part of his show once. He's an asshole.

Bob will get you for that ;-)

I only watched Ratigan a few times but it is clear he is Bob's
favorite source. I heard the same things I see posted here.


This is someone on MSNBC? I've never seen his show.


He's a financial/political reporter who knows the financial markets up
and down, originally reporting for Bloomberg.
He doesn't play left/right favorites, and unlike other reporters doesn't
kiss political ass or ask the usual shallow questions.
You can easily find vid clips of him laying out the facts to politicians
of all stripes.
He doesn't like any of them who game away from the facts.
I would guess you'd like him, depending on how far you fell off a
political edge.
He seems to me an old-time capitalist with a social conscience.
Basically, CEO's making 50 times average employees salary is fine if
they are adding to the economy.
CEO's making 500 times average employee salary while destroying the
economy isn't fine.
But you already got the best recommendation for Ratigan right here.
Both gfretwell and Krause don't like him.
Krause doesn't like anybody.
gfretwell loves Wall Street.
Ratigan suffers no such weaknesses.
As far as Bob reflecting Ratigan, that's a poor reading from gfretwell.
"Destruction of the middle class" talk is all over the place.
The left blames Wall Street, the right blames Obama.
Bob sounds much more like an Ed Shultz fan.

Jim - Green eye shades.


Just for the record.. Tell us where you think you stand politically? Bet
any money you say you are center or slightly right of center... Most
progressives think that, but of course they are wrong. Bet you think
"you" are middle of the road, fair and balanced, right??

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!

Jim August 4th 10 09:06 PM

Who doesn't pay taxes and why
 
I am Tosk wrote:
In article , says...
nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 12:18:03 -0400, Harry ?
wrote:

On 8/3/10 12:16 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 05:51:01 -0400, wrote:

oh...what did the GOP do in the last 10 years?

answer: nothing

Answer: Same thing the Dem's are doing to us now. Screwing us.
at least this is a start...not blaming the black president

The last I read, you were blaming your woes on every president since
the waning days of the Nixon administration.
I guess we don't have to watch Dylan Ratigan. He says something at 4PM
and it is posted here by dinner time.
I watched part of his show once. He's an asshole.
Bob will get you for that ;-)

I only watched Ratigan a few times but it is clear he is Bob's
favorite source. I heard the same things I see posted here.
This is someone on MSNBC? I've never seen his show.

He's a financial/political reporter who knows the financial markets up
and down, originally reporting for Bloomberg.
He doesn't play left/right favorites, and unlike other reporters doesn't
kiss political ass or ask the usual shallow questions.
You can easily find vid clips of him laying out the facts to politicians
of all stripes.
He doesn't like any of them who game away from the facts.
I would guess you'd like him, depending on how far you fell off a
political edge.
He seems to me an old-time capitalist with a social conscience.
Basically, CEO's making 50 times average employees salary is fine if
they are adding to the economy.
CEO's making 500 times average employee salary while destroying the
economy isn't fine.
But you already got the best recommendation for Ratigan right here.
Both gfretwell and Krause don't like him.
Krause doesn't like anybody.
gfretwell loves Wall Street.
Ratigan suffers no such weaknesses.
As far as Bob reflecting Ratigan, that's a poor reading from gfretwell.
"Destruction of the middle class" talk is all over the place.
The left blames Wall Street, the right blames Obama.
Bob sounds much more like an Ed Shultz fan.

Jim - Green eye shades.


Just for the record.. Tell us where you think you stand politically? Bet
any money you say you are center or slightly right of center... Most
progressives think that, but of course they are wrong. Bet you think
"you" are middle of the road, fair and balanced, right??


That "stand politically" is pure wingnut bull****.
Ask about an issue and I'll tell you where I stand.
I'm not shy, and I talk for myself.

Jim - Member of the "Everybody but me is full of ****" party.



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