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Stripping the Marquis
I decided that since I found wood rot and a cracked manifold on the
Marquis that maybe I should do a bit more investigating. Oh the engine is fine, but I have noticed that the aluminum pillars which hold the seats were loose on the floor. doing some investigating, the previous owners had used large lag screws and had drilled small holes in the plywood and ran the bolts in. Three of the five on one seat were loose and when I pulled them out they were rusty which made the seat totally unstable. Then I thought that I should get rid of the pillars and build boxes for the seats, also providing storage room for tools, spare prop, etc. Then I got to thinking that those rusty bolts are indicators of possible problems with the floor underneath. I have a very small access to the steel fuel tank which is mounted under the floor and I do have access to the sending unit as well as the anti-siphon valve, but the rubber hose going to the fuel pump is getting cracks in it, and I can't have that. So, my carpenter buddy and I are deciding to rip out the floor and sides for a total re-do. I want to check to see the validity of the fuel tank for rust etc. Plus add an extra fuel tank for longer cruising range instead of strapping a spare tank onto the swim platform as originally planned. This also gives a chance to check out the stringers and investigate for other wood rot and replace if necessary. I've already removed the back panel and the transom's integrity is fine. No rot there. Saturday I went to the a very reputable boat shop; the best in the area- which is about 30 mi away, and was able to talk with a mechanic who has worked there for about 20+ years. Yep, he's just about seen it all. I told him about the cracked manifold which had been psuedo- repaired with JB weld and he said to bring the manifold in and they could inspect it, then weld it. I asked if it would hold, and they said they've had boats out for better than 10 years with no failure to their repairs, and it would be at a fraction of the cost of a new one and they would also inspect the risers as well. But if the manifold[s] were too far gone (and there is that chance) they would install new ones for about the same price as what I could get the parts from the ebay stores and do it myself. I thought that was a pretty good deal. I've removed the bent up bow railing which is of no concern to me. While I was at the marina, I got a healthy can of marine epoxy which they use, and will start in on filling holes where I pulled the railing off and work on the nicks in the hull. when I'm done sanding and prepping the necessary spots, I'll take it to them to apply gel coat where necessary. I plan on getting rid of the antique depth finder and the Ray Jefferson radio and update/replace anything else that needs be while I have the boat stripped down. I could go on about my project but Jimmy the carpenter and I are going to lay out a floor plan and add conveniences to fit instead of just throwing them in and tying them down. Well, there will be no river trip for the wife and myself this year, but- duty now for the future. |
Stripping the Marquis
"Tim" wrote in message ... I decided that since I found wood rot and a cracked manifold on the Marquis that maybe I should do a bit more investigating. Oh the engine is fine, but I have noticed that the aluminum pillars which hold the seats were loose on the floor. doing some investigating, the previous owners had used large lag screws and had drilled small holes in the plywood and ran the bolts in. Three of the five on one seat were loose and when I pulled them out they were rusty which made the seat totally unstable. Then I thought that I should get rid of the pillars and build boxes for the seats, also providing storage room for tools, spare prop, etc. Then I got to thinking that those rusty bolts are indicators of possible problems with the floor underneath. I have a very small access to the steel fuel tank which is mounted under the floor and I do have access to the sending unit as well as the anti-siphon valve, but the rubber hose going to the fuel pump is getting cracks in it, and I can't have that. So, my carpenter buddy and I are deciding to rip out the floor and sides for a total re-do. I want to check to see the validity of the fuel tank for rust etc. Plus add an extra fuel tank for longer cruising range instead of strapping a spare tank onto the swim platform as originally planned. This also gives a chance to check out the stringers and investigate for other wood rot and replace if necessary. I've already removed the back panel and the transom's integrity is fine. No rot there. Saturday I went to the a very reputable boat shop; the best in the area- which is about 30 mi away, and was able to talk with a mechanic who has worked there for about 20+ years. Yep, he's just about seen it all. I told him about the cracked manifold which had been psuedo- repaired with JB weld and he said to bring the manifold in and they could inspect it, then weld it. I asked if it would hold, and they said they've had boats out for better than 10 years with no failure to their repairs, and it would be at a fraction of the cost of a new one and they would also inspect the risers as well. But if the manifold[s] were too far gone (and there is that chance) they would install new ones for about the same price as what I could get the parts from the ebay stores and do it myself. I thought that was a pretty good deal. I've removed the bent up bow railing which is of no concern to me. While I was at the marina, I got a healthy can of marine epoxy which they use, and will start in on filling holes where I pulled the railing off and work on the nicks in the hull. when I'm done sanding and prepping the necessary spots, I'll take it to them to apply gel coat where necessary. I plan on getting rid of the antique depth finder and the Ray Jefferson radio and update/replace anything else that needs be while I have the boat stripped down. I could go on about my project but Jimmy the carpenter and I are going to lay out a floor plan and add conveniences to fit instead of just throwing them in and tying them down. Well, there will be no river trip for the wife and myself this year, but- duty now for the future. You could still do a trip with the pontoon, say from cave in rock to ky lake, just put in at the cave and I will take your truck on a 2 day joy ride to KY Lake marina??? sounds fun to me... also Iboats restoration forum is full of rebuilds and pics, |
Stripping the Marquis
On Jul 19, 4:31*pm, "Happy" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message ... I decided that since I found wood rot and a cracked manifold on the Marquis that maybe I should do a bit more investigating. Oh the engine is fine, but I have noticed that the aluminum pillars which hold the seats were loose on the floor. doing some investigating, the previous owners had used large lag screws and had drilled small holes in the plywood and ran the bolts in. Three of the five on one seat were loose and when I pulled them out they were rusty which made the seat totally unstable. Then I thought that I should get rid of the pillars and build boxes *for the seats, also providing storage room for tools, spare prop, etc. Then I got to thinking that those rusty bolts are indicators of possible problems with the floor underneath. I have a very small access to the steel fuel tank which is mounted under the floor and I do have access to the sending unit as well as the anti-siphon valve, but the rubber hose going to the fuel pump is getting cracks in it, and I can't have that. *So, my carpenter buddy and I are deciding to rip out the floor and sides for a total re-do. I want to check to see the validity of the fuel tank for rust etc. Plus add an extra fuel tank for longer cruising range instead of strapping a spare tank onto the swim platform as originally planned. This also gives a chance to check out the stringers and investigate for other wood rot and replace if necessary. I've already removed the back panel and the transom's integrity is fine. No rot there. Saturday I went to the a very reputable boat shop; the best in the area- which is about 30 mi away, and was able to talk with a mechanic who has worked there for about 20+ years. Yep, he's just about seen it all. I told him about the cracked manifold which had been psuedo- repaired with JB weld and he said to bring the manifold in and they could inspect it, then weld it. I asked if it would hold, and they said they've had boats out for better than 10 years with no failure to their repairs, and it would be at a fraction of the cost of a new one and they would also inspect the risers as well. But if the manifold[s] were too far gone (and there is that chance) they would install new ones for about the same price as what I could get the parts from the ebay stores and do it myself. I thought that was a pretty good deal. I've removed the bent up bow railing which is of no concern to me. While I was at the marina, *I got a healthy can of *marine epoxy which they use, and will start in on filling holes where I pulled the railing off and work on the nicks in the hull. when I'm done sanding and prepping the necessary spots, *I'll take it to them to apply gel coat where necessary. I plan on getting rid of the antique depth finder and the Ray Jefferson radio and *update/replace anything else that needs be while I have the boat stripped down. I could go on about my project but Jimmy the carpenter and I are going to lay out a floor plan and add conveniences to fit instead of just throwing them in and tying them down. Well, there will be no river trip for the wife and myself this year, but- duty now for the future. You could still do a trip with the pontoon, say from cave in rock to ky lake, just put in at the cave and I will take your truck on a 2 day joy ride to KY Lake marina??? sounds fun to me... also Iboats restoration forum is full of rebuilds and pics,- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes, I've checked them out and there's lots of detailed pics from people who have been really imaculate on their rebuild/restores. That's one place where I got some inspiration abotu this project. Like I said, it'll probably be the las boat I ever own and I got it scandlously cheap, so I could put anouther $1000-1500 in it and have a great riding and functioning craft; know what I have and still be less money than buying something compatable off a dealer. I'll probably be taking some pics of the before, middle stages and after as I go. Now concerning the pontoon, I think I'd need a co-signer to afford the fuel for it to go on the trip we're wanting to take. 200 mi round trip on a v-4 Johnson? I'd probably need a tanker to follow us. ?:^ Q |
Stripping the Marquis
On 7/19/10 5:54 PM, Tim wrote:
On Jul 19, 4:31 pm, wrote: wrote in message ... I decided that since I found wood rot and a cracked manifold on the Marquis that maybe I should do a bit more investigating. Oh the engine is fine, but I have noticed that the aluminum pillars which hold the seats were loose on the floor. doing some investigating, the previous owners had used large lag screws and had drilled small holes in the plywood and ran the bolts in. Three of the five on one seat were loose and when I pulled them out they were rusty which made the seat totally unstable. Then I thought that I should get rid of the pillars and build boxes for the seats, also providing storage room for tools, spare prop, etc. Then I got to thinking that those rusty bolts are indicators of possible problems with the floor underneath. I have a very small access to the steel fuel tank which is mounted under the floor and I do have access to the sending unit as well as the anti-siphon valve, but the rubber hose going to the fuel pump is getting cracks in it, and I can't have that. So, my carpenter buddy and I are deciding to rip out the floor and sides for a total re-do. I want to check to see the validity of the fuel tank for rust etc. Plus add an extra fuel tank for longer cruising range instead of strapping a spare tank onto the swim platform as originally planned. This also gives a chance to check out the stringers and investigate for other wood rot and replace if necessary. I've already removed the back panel and the transom's integrity is fine. No rot there. Saturday I went to the a very reputable boat shop; the best in the area- which is about 30 mi away, and was able to talk with a mechanic who has worked there for about 20+ years. Yep, he's just about seen it all. I told him about the cracked manifold which had been psuedo- repaired with JB weld and he said to bring the manifold in and they could inspect it, then weld it. I asked if it would hold, and they said they've had boats out for better than 10 years with no failure to their repairs, and it would be at a fraction of the cost of a new one and they would also inspect the risers as well. But if the manifold[s] were too far gone (and there is that chance) they would install new ones for about the same price as what I could get the parts from the ebay stores and do it myself. I thought that was a pretty good deal. I've removed the bent up bow railing which is of no concern to me. While I was at the marina, I got a healthy can of marine epoxy which they use, and will start in on filling holes where I pulled the railing off and work on the nicks in the hull. when I'm done sanding and prepping the necessary spots, I'll take it to them to apply gel coat where necessary. I plan on getting rid of the antique depth finder and the Ray Jefferson radio and update/replace anything else that needs be while I have the boat stripped down. I could go on about my project but Jimmy the carpenter and I are going to lay out a floor plan and add conveniences to fit instead of just throwing them in and tying them down. Well, there will be no river trip for the wife and myself this year, but- duty now for the future. You could still do a trip with the pontoon, say from cave in rock to ky lake, just put in at the cave and I will take your truck on a 2 day joy ride to KY Lake marina??? sounds fun to me... also Iboats restoration forum is full of rebuilds and pics,- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes, I've checked them out and there's lots of detailed pics from people who have been really imaculate on their rebuild/restores. That's one place where I got some inspiration abotu this project. Like I said, it'll probably be the las boat I ever own and I got it scandlously cheap, so I could put anouther $1000-1500 in it and have a great riding and functioning craft; know what I have and still be less money than buying something compatable off a dealer. I'll probably be taking some pics of the before, middle stages and after as I go. Now concerning the pontoon, I think I'd need a co-signer to afford the fuel for it to go on the trip we're wanting to take. 200 mi round trip on a v-4 Johnson? I'd probably need a tanker to follow us. ?:^ Q If you are going to spend the time and money on restoring that pontoon boat, why not buy yourself a new non-current 100 hp Yamaha four stroke, or something similar. Better mpg's, quieter, et cetera. |
Stripping the Marquis
"Harry " wrote in message ... On 7/19/10 5:54 PM, Tim wrote: On Jul 19, 4:31 pm, wrote: wrote in message ... I decided that since I found wood rot and a cracked manifold on the Marquis that maybe I should do a bit more investigating. Oh the engine is fine, but I have noticed that the aluminum pillars which hold the seats were loose on the floor. doing some investigating, the previous owners had used large lag screws and had drilled small holes in the plywood and ran the bolts in. Three of the five on one seat were loose and when I pulled them out they were rusty which made the seat totally unstable. Then I thought that I should get rid of the pillars and build boxes for the seats, also providing storage room for tools, spare prop, etc. Then I got to thinking that those rusty bolts are indicators of possible problems with the floor underneath. I have a very small access to the steel fuel tank which is mounted under the floor and I do have access to the sending unit as well as the anti-siphon valve, but the rubber hose going to the fuel pump is getting cracks in it, and I can't have that. So, my carpenter buddy and I are deciding to rip out the floor and sides for a total re-do. I want to check to see the validity of the fuel tank for rust etc. Plus add an extra fuel tank for longer cruising range instead of strapping a spare tank onto the swim platform as originally planned. This also gives a chance to check out the stringers and investigate for other wood rot and replace if necessary. I've already removed the back panel and the transom's integrity is fine. No rot there. Saturday I went to the a very reputable boat shop; the best in the area- which is about 30 mi away, and was able to talk with a mechanic who has worked there for about 20+ years. Yep, he's just about seen it all. I told him about the cracked manifold which had been psuedo- repaired with JB weld and he said to bring the manifold in and they could inspect it, then weld it. I asked if it would hold, and they said they've had boats out for better than 10 years with no failure to their repairs, and it would be at a fraction of the cost of a new one and they would also inspect the risers as well. But if the manifold[s] were too far gone (and there is that chance) they would install new ones for about the same price as what I could get the parts from the ebay stores and do it myself. I thought that was a pretty good deal. I've removed the bent up bow railing which is of no concern to me. While I was at the marina, I got a healthy can of marine epoxy which they use, and will start in on filling holes where I pulled the railing off and work on the nicks in the hull. when I'm done sanding and prepping the necessary spots, I'll take it to them to apply gel coat where necessary. I plan on getting rid of the antique depth finder and the Ray Jefferson radio and update/replace anything else that needs be while I have the boat stripped down. I could go on about my project but Jimmy the carpenter and I are going to lay out a floor plan and add conveniences to fit instead of just throwing them in and tying them down. Well, there will be no river trip for the wife and myself this year, but- duty now for the future. You could still do a trip with the pontoon, say from cave in rock to ky lake, just put in at the cave and I will take your truck on a 2 day joy ride to KY Lake marina??? sounds fun to me... also Iboats restoration forum is full of rebuilds and pics,- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes, I've checked them out and there's lots of detailed pics from people who have been really imaculate on their rebuild/restores. That's one place where I got some inspiration abotu this project. Like I said, it'll probably be the las boat I ever own and I got it scandlously cheap, so I could put anouther $1000-1500 in it and have a great riding and functioning craft; know what I have and still be less money than buying something compatable off a dealer. I'll probably be taking some pics of the before, middle stages and after as I go. Now concerning the pontoon, I think I'd need a co-signer to afford the fuel for it to go on the trip we're wanting to take. 200 mi round trip on a v-4 Johnson? I'd probably need a tanker to follow us. ?:^ Q If you are going to spend the time and money on restoring that pontoon boat, why not buy yourself a new non-current 100 hp Yamaha four stroke, or something similar. Better mpg's, quieter, et cetera. who in his right mind would want a 4 stroke yamy when e-tec rules the water and is cleaner and gets better fuel economy and can pull a yamaha of equal HP backward and to its grave?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-7I00cZUE0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2gIdMRwfuM |
Stripping the Marquis
On 7/19/10 6:33 PM, Happy wrote:
"Harry " wrote in message ... On 7/19/10 5:54 PM, Tim wrote: On Jul 19, 4:31 pm, wrote: wrote in message ... I decided that since I found wood rot and a cracked manifold on the Marquis that maybe I should do a bit more investigating. Oh the engine is fine, but I have noticed that the aluminum pillars which hold the seats were loose on the floor. doing some investigating, the previous owners had used large lag screws and had drilled small holes in the plywood and ran the bolts in. Three of the five on one seat were loose and when I pulled them out they were rusty which made the seat totally unstable. Then I thought that I should get rid of the pillars and build boxes for the seats, also providing storage room for tools, spare prop, etc. Then I got to thinking that those rusty bolts are indicators of possible problems with the floor underneath. I have a very small access to the steel fuel tank which is mounted under the floor and I do have access to the sending unit as well as the anti-siphon valve, but the rubber hose going to the fuel pump is getting cracks in it, and I can't have that. So, my carpenter buddy and I are deciding to rip out the floor and sides for a total re-do. I want to check to see the validity of the fuel tank for rust etc. Plus add an extra fuel tank for longer cruising range instead of strapping a spare tank onto the swim platform as originally planned. This also gives a chance to check out the stringers and investigate for other wood rot and replace if necessary. I've already removed the back panel and the transom's integrity is fine. No rot there. Saturday I went to the a very reputable boat shop; the best in the area- which is about 30 mi away, and was able to talk with a mechanic who has worked there for about 20+ years. Yep, he's just about seen it all. I told him about the cracked manifold which had been psuedo- repaired with JB weld and he said to bring the manifold in and they could inspect it, then weld it. I asked if it would hold, and they said they've had boats out for better than 10 years with no failure to their repairs, and it would be at a fraction of the cost of a new one and they would also inspect the risers as well. But if the manifold[s] were too far gone (and there is that chance) they would install new ones for about the same price as what I could get the parts from the ebay stores and do it myself. I thought that was a pretty good deal. I've removed the bent up bow railing which is of no concern to me. While I was at the marina, I got a healthy can of marine epoxy which they use, and will start in on filling holes where I pulled the railing off and work on the nicks in the hull. when I'm done sanding and prepping the necessary spots, I'll take it to them to apply gel coat where necessary. I plan on getting rid of the antique depth finder and the Ray Jefferson radio and update/replace anything else that needs be while I have the boat stripped down. I could go on about my project but Jimmy the carpenter and I are going to lay out a floor plan and add conveniences to fit instead of just throwing them in and tying them down. Well, there will be no river trip for the wife and myself this year, but- duty now for the future. You could still do a trip with the pontoon, say from cave in rock to ky lake, just put in at the cave and I will take your truck on a 2 day joy ride to KY Lake marina??? sounds fun to me... also Iboats restoration forum is full of rebuilds and pics,- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes, I've checked them out and there's lots of detailed pics from people who have been really imaculate on their rebuild/restores. That's one place where I got some inspiration abotu this project. Like I said, it'll probably be the las boat I ever own and I got it scandlously cheap, so I could put anouther $1000-1500 in it and have a great riding and functioning craft; know what I have and still be less money than buying something compatable off a dealer. I'll probably be taking some pics of the before, middle stages and after as I go. Now concerning the pontoon, I think I'd need a co-signer to afford the fuel for it to go on the trip we're wanting to take. 200 mi round trip on a v-4 Johnson? I'd probably need a tanker to follow us. ?:^ Q If you are going to spend the time and money on restoring that pontoon boat, why not buy yourself a new non-current 100 hp Yamaha four stroke, or something similar. Better mpg's, quieter, et cetera. who in his right mind would want a 4 stroke yamy when e-tec rules the water and is cleaner and gets better fuel economy and can pull a yamaha of equal HP backward and to its grave?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-7I00cZUE0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2gIdMRwfuM On what planet does e-tec rule the water? |
Stripping the Marquis
"Harry " wrote in message m... On 7/19/10 6:33 PM, Happy wrote: "Harry " wrote in message ... On 7/19/10 5:54 PM, Tim wrote: On Jul 19, 4:31 pm, wrote: wrote in message ... I decided that since I found wood rot and a cracked manifold on the Marquis that maybe I should do a bit more investigating. Oh the engine is fine, but I have noticed that the aluminum pillars which hold the seats were loose on the floor. doing some investigating, the previous owners had used large lag screws and had drilled small holes in the plywood and ran the bolts in. Three of the five on one seat were loose and when I pulled them out they were rusty which made the seat totally unstable. Then I thought that I should get rid of the pillars and build boxes for the seats, also providing storage room for tools, spare prop, etc. Then I got to thinking that those rusty bolts are indicators of possible problems with the floor underneath. I have a very small access to the steel fuel tank which is mounted under the floor and I do have access to the sending unit as well as the anti-siphon valve, but the rubber hose going to the fuel pump is getting cracks in it, and I can't have that. So, my carpenter buddy and I are deciding to rip out the floor and sides for a total re-do. I want to check to see the validity of the fuel tank for rust etc. Plus add an extra fuel tank for longer cruising range instead of strapping a spare tank onto the swim platform as originally planned. This also gives a chance to check out the stringers and investigate for other wood rot and replace if necessary. I've already removed the back panel and the transom's integrity is fine. No rot there. Saturday I went to the a very reputable boat shop; the best in the area- which is about 30 mi away, and was able to talk with a mechanic who has worked there for about 20+ years. Yep, he's just about seen it all. I told him about the cracked manifold which had been psuedo- repaired with JB weld and he said to bring the manifold in and they could inspect it, then weld it. I asked if it would hold, and they said they've had boats out for better than 10 years with no failure to their repairs, and it would be at a fraction of the cost of a new one and they would also inspect the risers as well. But if the manifold[s] were too far gone (and there is that chance) they would install new ones for about the same price as what I could get the parts from the ebay stores and do it myself. I thought that was a pretty good deal. I've removed the bent up bow railing which is of no concern to me. While I was at the marina, I got a healthy can of marine epoxy which they use, and will start in on filling holes where I pulled the railing off and work on the nicks in the hull. when I'm done sanding and prepping the necessary spots, I'll take it to them to apply gel coat where necessary. I plan on getting rid of the antique depth finder and the Ray Jefferson radio and update/replace anything else that needs be while I have the boat stripped down. I could go on about my project but Jimmy the carpenter and I are going to lay out a floor plan and add conveniences to fit instead of just throwing them in and tying them down. Well, there will be no river trip for the wife and myself this year, but- duty now for the future. You could still do a trip with the pontoon, say from cave in rock to ky lake, just put in at the cave and I will take your truck on a 2 day joy ride to KY Lake marina??? sounds fun to me... also Iboats restoration forum is full of rebuilds and pics,- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes, I've checked them out and there's lots of detailed pics from people who have been really imaculate on their rebuild/restores. That's one place where I got some inspiration abotu this project. Like I said, it'll probably be the las boat I ever own and I got it scandlously cheap, so I could put anouther $1000-1500 in it and have a great riding and functioning craft; know what I have and still be less money than buying something compatable off a dealer. I'll probably be taking some pics of the before, middle stages and after as I go. Now concerning the pontoon, I think I'd need a co-signer to afford the fuel for it to go on the trip we're wanting to take. 200 mi round trip on a v-4 Johnson? I'd probably need a tanker to follow us. ?:^ Q If you are going to spend the time and money on restoring that pontoon boat, why not buy yourself a new non-current 100 hp Yamaha four stroke, or something similar. Better mpg's, quieter, et cetera. who in his right mind would want a 4 stroke yamy when e-tec rules the water and is cleaner and gets better fuel economy and can pull a yamaha of equal HP backward and to its grave?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-7I00cZUE0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2gIdMRwfuM On what planet does e-tec rule the water you must not get out much Harry??? its the third rock from the sun |
Stripping the Marquis
Tim wrote:
On Jul 19, 4:31 pm, wrote: wrote in message ... I decided that since I found wood rot and a cracked manifold on the Marquis that maybe I should do a bit more investigating. Oh the engine is fine, but I have noticed that the aluminum pillars which hold the seats were loose on the floor. doing some investigating, the previous owners had used large lag screws and had drilled small holes in the plywood and ran the bolts in. Three of the five on one seat were loose and when I pulled them out they were rusty which made the seat totally unstable. Then I thought that I should get rid of the pillars and build boxes for the seats, also providing storage room for tools, spare prop, etc. Then I got to thinking that those rusty bolts are indicators of possible problems with the floor underneath. I have a very small access to the steel fuel tank which is mounted under the floor and I do have access to the sending unit as well as the anti-siphon valve, but the rubber hose going to the fuel pump is getting cracks in it, and I can't have that. So, my carpenter buddy and I are deciding to rip out the floor and sides for a total re-do. I want to check to see the validity of the fuel tank for rust etc. Plus add an extra fuel tank for longer cruising range instead of strapping a spare tank onto the swim platform as originally planned. This also gives a chance to check out the stringers and investigate for other wood rot and replace if necessary. I've already removed the back panel and the transom's integrity is fine. No rot there. Saturday I went to the a very reputable boat shop; the best in the area- which is about 30 mi away, and was able to talk with a mechanic who has worked there for about 20+ years. Yep, he's just about seen it all. I told him about the cracked manifold which had been psuedo- repaired with JB weld and he said to bring the manifold in and they could inspect it, then weld it. I asked if it would hold, and they said they've had boats out for better than 10 years with no failure to their repairs, and it would be at a fraction of the cost of a new one and they would also inspect the risers as well. But if the manifold[s] were too far gone (and there is that chance) they would install new ones for about the same price as what I could get the parts from the ebay stores and do it myself. I thought that was a pretty good deal. I've removed the bent up bow railing which is of no concern to me. While I was at the marina, I got a healthy can of marine epoxy which they use, and will start in on filling holes where I pulled the railing off and work on the nicks in the hull. when I'm done sanding and prepping the necessary spots, I'll take it to them to apply gel coat where necessary. I plan on getting rid of the antique depth finder and the Ray Jefferson radio and update/replace anything else that needs be while I have the boat stripped down. I could go on about my project but Jimmy the carpenter and I are going to lay out a floor plan and add conveniences to fit instead of just throwing them in and tying them down. Well, there will be no river trip for the wife and myself this year, but- duty now for the future. You could still do a trip with the pontoon, say from cave in rock to ky lake, just put in at the cave and I will take your truck on a 2 day joy ride to KY Lake marina??? sounds fun to me... also Iboats restoration forum is full of rebuilds and pics,- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes, I've checked them out and there's lots of detailed pics from people who have been really imaculate on their rebuild/restores. That's one place where I got some inspiration abotu this project. Like I said, it'll probably be the las boat I ever own and I got it scandlously cheap, so I could put anouther $1000-1500 in it and have a great riding and functioning craft; know what I have and still be less money than buying something compatable off a dealer. I'll probably be taking some pics of the before, middle stages and after as I go. Now concerning the pontoon, I think I'd need a co-signer to afford the fuel for it to go on the trip we're wanting to take. 200 mi round trip on a v-4 Johnson? I'd probably need a tanker to follow us. ?:^ Q Start a web page, Tim! There are others that are very interesting to follow. |
Stripping the Marquis
Happy wrote:
"Harry " wrote in message ... On 7/19/10 5:54 PM, Tim wrote: On Jul 19, 4:31 pm, wrote: wrote in message ... I decided that since I found wood rot and a cracked manifold on the Marquis that maybe I should do a bit more investigating. Oh the engine is fine, but I have noticed that the aluminum pillars which hold the seats were loose on the floor. doing some investigating, the previous owners had used large lag screws and had drilled small holes in the plywood and ran the bolts in. Three of the five on one seat were loose and when I pulled them out they were rusty which made the seat totally unstable. Then I thought that I should get rid of the pillars and build boxes for the seats, also providing storage room for tools, spare prop, etc. Then I got to thinking that those rusty bolts are indicators of possible problems with the floor underneath. I have a very small access to the steel fuel tank which is mounted under the floor and I do have access to the sending unit as well as the anti-siphon valve, but the rubber hose going to the fuel pump is getting cracks in it, and I can't have that. So, my carpenter buddy and I are deciding to rip out the floor and sides for a total re-do. I want to check to see the validity of the fuel tank for rust etc. Plus add an extra fuel tank for longer cruising range instead of strapping a spare tank onto the swim platform as originally planned. This also gives a chance to check out the stringers and investigate for other wood rot and replace if necessary. I've already removed the back panel and the transom's integrity is fine. No rot there. Saturday I went to the a very reputable boat shop; the best in the area- which is about 30 mi away, and was able to talk with a mechanic who has worked there for about 20+ years. Yep, he's just about seen it all. I told him about the cracked manifold which had been psuedo- repaired with JB weld and he said to bring the manifold in and they could inspect it, then weld it. I asked if it would hold, and they said they've had boats out for better than 10 years with no failure to their repairs, and it would be at a fraction of the cost of a new one and they would also inspect the risers as well. But if the manifold[s] were too far gone (and there is that chance) they would install new ones for about the same price as what I could get the parts from the ebay stores and do it myself. I thought that was a pretty good deal. I've removed the bent up bow railing which is of no concern to me. While I was at the marina, I got a healthy can of marine epoxy which they use, and will start in on filling holes where I pulled the railing off and work on the nicks in the hull. when I'm done sanding and prepping the necessary spots, I'll take it to them to apply gel coat where necessary. I plan on getting rid of the antique depth finder and the Ray Jefferson radio and update/replace anything else that needs be while I have the boat stripped down. I could go on about my project but Jimmy the carpenter and I are going to lay out a floor plan and add conveniences to fit instead of just throwing them in and tying them down. Well, there will be no river trip for the wife and myself this year, but- duty now for the future. You could still do a trip with the pontoon, say from cave in rock to ky lake, just put in at the cave and I will take your truck on a 2 day joy ride to KY Lake marina??? sounds fun to me... also Iboats restoration forum is full of rebuilds and pics,- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes, I've checked them out and there's lots of detailed pics from people who have been really imaculate on their rebuild/restores. That's one place where I got some inspiration abotu this project. Like I said, it'll probably be the las boat I ever own and I got it scandlously cheap, so I could put anouther $1000-1500 in it and have a great riding and functioning craft; know what I have and still be less money than buying something compatable off a dealer. I'll probably be taking some pics of the before, middle stages and after as I go. Now concerning the pontoon, I think I'd need a co-signer to afford the fuel for it to go on the trip we're wanting to take. 200 mi round trip on a v-4 Johnson? I'd probably need a tanker to follow us. ?:^ Q If you are going to spend the time and money on restoring that pontoon boat, why not buy yourself a new non-current 100 hp Yamaha four stroke, or something similar. Better mpg's, quieter, et cetera. who in his right mind would want a 4 stroke yamy when e-tec rules the water and is cleaner and gets better fuel economy and can pull a yamaha of equal HP backward and to its grave?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-7I00cZUE0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2gIdMRwfuM That is impressive but I'd also like to see them compare fuel economy and emissions. |
Stripping the Marquis
On 7/19/10 7:44 PM, Happy wrote:
"Harry " wrote in message m... On 7/19/10 6:33 PM, Happy wrote: "Harry " wrote in message ... On 7/19/10 5:54 PM, Tim wrote: On Jul 19, 4:31 pm, wrote: wrote in message ... I decided that since I found wood rot and a cracked manifold on the Marquis that maybe I should do a bit more investigating. Oh the engine is fine, but I have noticed that the aluminum pillars which hold the seats were loose on the floor. doing some investigating, the previous owners had used large lag screws and had drilled small holes in the plywood and ran the bolts in. Three of the five on one seat were loose and when I pulled them out they were rusty which made the seat totally unstable. Then I thought that I should get rid of the pillars and build boxes for the seats, also providing storage room for tools, spare prop, etc. Then I got to thinking that those rusty bolts are indicators of possible problems with the floor underneath. I have a very small access to the steel fuel tank which is mounted under the floor and I do have access to the sending unit as well as the anti-siphon valve, but the rubber hose going to the fuel pump is getting cracks in it, and I can't have that. So, my carpenter buddy and I are deciding to rip out the floor and sides for a total re-do. I want to check to see the validity of the fuel tank for rust etc. Plus add an extra fuel tank for longer cruising range instead of strapping a spare tank onto the swim platform as originally planned. This also gives a chance to check out the stringers and investigate for other wood rot and replace if necessary. I've already removed the back panel and the transom's integrity is fine. No rot there. Saturday I went to the a very reputable boat shop; the best in the area- which is about 30 mi away, and was able to talk with a mechanic who has worked there for about 20+ years. Yep, he's just about seen it all. I told him about the cracked manifold which had been psuedo- repaired with JB weld and he said to bring the manifold in and they could inspect it, then weld it. I asked if it would hold, and they said they've had boats out for better than 10 years with no failure to their repairs, and it would be at a fraction of the cost of a new one and they would also inspect the risers as well. But if the manifold[s] were too far gone (and there is that chance) they would install new ones for about the same price as what I could get the parts from the ebay stores and do it myself. I thought that was a pretty good deal. I've removed the bent up bow railing which is of no concern to me. While I was at the marina, I got a healthy can of marine epoxy which they use, and will start in on filling holes where I pulled the railing off and work on the nicks in the hull. when I'm done sanding and prepping the necessary spots, I'll take it to them to apply gel coat where necessary. I plan on getting rid of the antique depth finder and the Ray Jefferson radio and update/replace anything else that needs be while I have the boat stripped down. I could go on about my project but Jimmy the carpenter and I are going to lay out a floor plan and add conveniences to fit instead of just throwing them in and tying them down. Well, there will be no river trip for the wife and myself this year, but- duty now for the future. You could still do a trip with the pontoon, say from cave in rock to ky lake, just put in at the cave and I will take your truck on a 2 day joy ride to KY Lake marina??? sounds fun to me... also Iboats restoration forum is full of rebuilds and pics,- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes, I've checked them out and there's lots of detailed pics from people who have been really imaculate on their rebuild/restores. That's one place where I got some inspiration abotu this project. Like I said, it'll probably be the las boat I ever own and I got it scandlously cheap, so I could put anouther $1000-1500 in it and have a great riding and functioning craft; know what I have and still be less money than buying something compatable off a dealer. I'll probably be taking some pics of the before, middle stages and after as I go. Now concerning the pontoon, I think I'd need a co-signer to afford the fuel for it to go on the trip we're wanting to take. 200 mi round trip on a v-4 Johnson? I'd probably need a tanker to follow us. ?:^ Q If you are going to spend the time and money on restoring that pontoon boat, why not buy yourself a new non-current 100 hp Yamaha four stroke, or something similar. Better mpg's, quieter, et cetera. who in his right mind would want a 4 stroke yamy when e-tec rules the water and is cleaner and gets better fuel economy and can pull a yamaha of equal HP backward and to its grave?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-7I00cZUE0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2gIdMRwfuM On what planet does e-tec rule the water you must not get out much Harry??? its the third rock from the sun I'm unimpressed by e-tecs, their market penetration, and their owners. |
Stripping the Marquis
On Jul 19, 5:03Â*pm, Harry  wrote:
On 7/19/10 5:54 PM, Tim wrote: On Jul 19, 4:31 pm, Â*wrote: Â*wrote in message .... I decided that since I found wood rot and a cracked manifold on the Marquis that maybe I should do a bit more investigating. Oh the engine is fine, but I have noticed that the aluminum pillars which hold the seats were loose on the floor. doing some investigating, the previous owners had used large lag screws and had drilled small holes in the plywood and ran the bolts in. Three of the five on one seat were loose and when I pulled them out they were rusty which made the seat totally unstable. Then I thought that I should get rid of the pillars and build boxes Â*for the seats, also providing storage room for tools, spare prop, etc. Then I got to thinking that those rusty bolts are indicators of possible problems with the floor underneath. I have a very small access to the steel fuel tank which is mounted under the floor and I do have access to the sending unit as well as the anti-siphon valve, but the rubber hose going to the fuel pump is getting cracks in it, and I can't have that. Â*So, my carpenter buddy and I are deciding to rip out the floor and sides for a total re-do. I want to check to see the validity of the fuel tank for rust etc. Plus add an extra fuel tank for longer cruising range instead of strapping a spare tank onto the swim platform as originally planned. This also gives a chance to check out the stringers and investigate for other wood rot and replace if necessary. I've already removed the back panel and the transom's integrity is fine. No rot there. Saturday I went to the a very reputable boat shop; the best in the area- which is about 30 mi away, and was able to talk with a mechanic who has worked there for about 20+ years. Yep, he's just about seen it all. I told him about the cracked manifold which had been psuedo- repaired with JB weld and he said to bring the manifold in and they could inspect it, then weld it. I asked if it would hold, and they said they've had boats out for better than 10 years with no failure to their repairs, and it would be at a fraction of the cost of a new one and they would also inspect the risers as well. But if the manifold[s] were too far gone (and there is that chance) they would install new ones for about the same price as what I could get the parts from the ebay stores and do it myself. I thought that was a pretty good deal. I've removed the bent up bow railing which is of no concern to me. While I was at the marina, Â*I got a healthy can of Â*marine epoxy which they use, and will start in on filling holes where I pulled the railing off and work on the nicks in the hull. when I'm done sanding and prepping the necessary spots, Â*I'll take it to them to apply gel coat where necessary. I plan on getting rid of the antique depth finder and the Ray Jefferson radio and Â*update/replace anything else that needs be while I have the boat stripped down. I could go on about my project but Jimmy the carpenter and I are going to lay out a floor plan and add conveniences to fit instead of just throwing them in and tying them down. Well, there will be no river trip for the wife and myself this year, but- duty now for the future. You could still do a trip with the pontoon, say from cave in rock to ky lake, just put in at the cave and I will take your truck on a 2 day joy ride to KY Lake marina??? sounds fun to me... also Iboats restoration forum is full of rebuilds and pics,- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes, I've checked them out and there's lots of detailed pics from people who have been really imaculate on their rebuild/restores. That's one place where I got some inspiration abotu this project. Like I said, it'll probably be the las boat I ever own and I got it scandlously cheap, so I could put anouther $1000-1500 in it and have a great riding and functioning craft; Â*know what I have and still be less money than buying something compatable off a dealer. Â*I'll probably be taking some pics of the before, middle stages and after as I go. Now concerning the pontoon, I think I'd need a co-signer to afford the fuel for it to go on the trip we're wanting to take. 200 mi round trip on a v-4 Johnson? I'd probably need a tanker to follow us. ?:^ Q If you are going to spend the time and money on restoring that pontoon boat, why not buy yourself a new non-current 100 hp Yamaha four stroke, or something similar. Better mpg's, quieter, et cetera.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I'm not going to restore the pontoon. it's very functional as it is, and i bought it for lake time family get togethers and it proved it's self worth on July 4th. But it's a good sized barge and really too much for two people to really enjoy, or at least that's the way the wife and I feel. granted the v4 is thirsty but I can burn a LOT of fuel for the price of a late model 4 stroke. And speaking of 4 cycle, I'm tempted to eventually mod it for a 140 hp mercruiser I have from a clapper I bought jsut for the parts. Good engine and drive train and rotten hull and interior. I bought it for spares for my 18 ft. Chris Craft. There's even pontoons that size that come stock with 350 GM's. but I think that's a bit of over kill myself. Also with the car engine, I can also go a sort of hybrid electric which I've been off-and-on thinking about for a while. |
Stripping the Marquis
On Jul 19, 7:11*pm, Larry wrote:
Tim wrote: On Jul 19, 4:31 pm, *wrote: *wrote in message .... I decided that since I found wood rot and a cracked manifold on the Marquis that maybe I should do a bit more investigating. Oh the engine is fine, but I have noticed that the aluminum pillars which hold the seats were loose on the floor. doing some investigating, the previous owners had used large lag screws and had drilled small holes in the plywood and ran the bolts in. Three of the five on one seat were loose and when I pulled them out they were rusty which made the seat totally unstable. Then I thought that I should get rid of the pillars and build boxes *for the seats, also providing storage room for tools, spare prop, etc. Then I got to thinking that those rusty bolts are indicators of possible problems with the floor underneath. I have a very small access to the steel fuel tank which is mounted under the floor and I do have access to the sending unit as well as the anti-siphon valve, but the rubber hose going to the fuel pump is getting cracks in it, and I can't have that. *So, my carpenter buddy and I are deciding to rip out the floor and sides for a total re-do. I want to check to see the validity of the fuel tank for rust etc. Plus add an extra fuel tank for longer cruising range instead of strapping a spare tank onto the swim platform as originally planned. This also gives a chance to check out the stringers and investigate for other wood rot and replace if necessary. I've already removed the back panel and the transom's integrity is fine. No rot there. Saturday I went to the a very reputable boat shop; the best in the area- which is about 30 mi away, and was able to talk with a mechanic who has worked there for about 20+ years. Yep, he's just about seen it all. I told him about the cracked manifold which had been psuedo- repaired with JB weld and he said to bring the manifold in and they could inspect it, then weld it. I asked if it would hold, and they said they've had boats out for better than 10 years with no failure to their repairs, and it would be at a fraction of the cost of a new one and they would also inspect the risers as well. But if the manifold[s] were too far gone (and there is that chance) they would install new ones for about the same price as what I could get the parts from the ebay stores and do it myself. I thought that was a pretty good deal. I've removed the bent up bow railing which is of no concern to me. While I was at the marina, *I got a healthy can of *marine epoxy which they use, and will start in on filling holes where I pulled the railing off and work on the nicks in the hull. when I'm done sanding and prepping the necessary spots, *I'll take it to them to apply gel coat where necessary. I plan on getting rid of the antique depth finder and the Ray Jefferson radio and *update/replace anything else that needs be while I have the boat stripped down. I could go on about my project but Jimmy the carpenter and I are going to lay out a floor plan and add conveniences to fit instead of just throwing them in and tying them down. Well, there will be no river trip for the wife and myself this year, but- duty now for the future. You could still do a trip with the pontoon, say from cave in rock to ky lake, just put in at the cave and I will take your truck on a 2 day joy ride to KY Lake marina??? sounds fun to me... also Iboats restoration forum is full of rebuilds and pics,- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes, I've checked them out and there's lots of detailed pics from people who have been really imaculate on their rebuild/restores. That's one place where I got some inspiration abotu this project. Like I said, it'll probably be the las boat I ever own and I got it scandlously cheap, so I could put anouther $1000-1500 in it and have a great riding and functioning craft; *know what I have and still be less money than buying something compatable off a dealer. *I'll probably be taking some pics of the before, middle stages and after as I go. Now concerning the pontoon, I think I'd need a co-signer to afford the fuel for it to go on the trip we're wanting to take. 200 mi round trip on a v-4 Johnson? I'd probably need a tanker to follow us. ?:^ Q Start a web page, Tim! *There are others that are very interesting to follow.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - That's an idea Larry, but I think it would be easier to post the pics on iBoats, seeing they have a section dedicated to rebuilds with lots of pics on how-to and various ideas. It's hard to imagine that somebody woudl do a hull up rebuild on a 16 ft. fiberglass runabout but it is done and done right. There's a 15 yr. old kid that took a clapped out aluminum Jon boat, ripped out the wood and redid the entire thing with many updates and made it litterally better than new. Very impressive to see his pics and how imaculate of care he took in the entire refurbish. |
Stripping the Marquis
On Jul 19, 7:45*pm, Tim wrote:
On Jul 19, 7:11*pm, Larry wrote: Tim wrote: On Jul 19, 4:31 pm, *wrote: *wrote in message ... I decided that since I found wood rot and a cracked manifold on the Marquis that maybe I should do a bit more investigating. Oh the engine is fine, but I have noticed that the aluminum pillars which hold the seats were loose on the floor. doing some investigating, the previous owners had used large lag screws and had drilled small holes in the plywood and ran the bolts in. Three of the five on one seat were loose and when I pulled them out they were rusty which made the seat totally unstable. Then I thought that I should get rid of the pillars and build boxes *for the seats, also providing storage room for tools, spare prop, etc. Then I got to thinking that those rusty bolts are indicators of possible problems with the floor underneath. I have a very small access to the steel fuel tank which is mounted under the floor and I do have access to the sending unit as well as the anti-siphon valve, but the rubber hose going to the fuel pump is getting cracks in it, and I can't have that. *So, my carpenter buddy and I are deciding to rip out the floor and sides for a total re-do. I want to check to see the validity of the fuel tank for rust etc. Plus add an extra fuel tank for longer cruising range instead of strapping a spare tank onto the swim platform as originally planned. This also gives a chance to check out the stringers and investigate for other wood rot and replace if necessary. I've already removed the back panel and the transom's integrity is fine. No rot there. Saturday I went to the a very reputable boat shop; the best in the area- which is about 30 mi away, and was able to talk with a mechanic who has worked there for about 20+ years. Yep, he's just about seen it all. I told him about the cracked manifold which had been psuedo- repaired with JB weld and he said to bring the manifold in and they could inspect it, then weld it. I asked if it would hold, and they said they've had boats out for better than 10 years with no failure to their repairs, and it would be at a fraction of the cost of a new one and they would also inspect the risers as well. But if the manifold[s] were too far gone (and there is that chance) they would install new ones for about the same price as what I could get the parts from the ebay stores and do it myself. I thought that was a pretty good deal.. I've removed the bent up bow railing which is of no concern to me. While I was at the marina, *I got a healthy can of *marine epoxy which they use, and will start in on filling holes where I pulled the railing off and work on the nicks in the hull. when I'm done sanding and prepping the necessary spots, *I'll take it to them to apply gel coat where necessary. I plan on getting rid of the antique depth finder and the Ray Jefferson radio and *update/replace anything else that needs be while I have the boat stripped down. I could go on about my project but Jimmy the carpenter and I are going to lay out a floor plan and add conveniences to fit instead of just throwing them in and tying them down. Well, there will be no river trip for the wife and myself this year, but- duty now for the future. You could still do a trip with the pontoon, say from cave in rock to ky lake, just put in at the cave and I will take your truck on a 2 day joy ride to KY Lake marina??? sounds fun to me... also Iboats restoration forum is full of rebuilds and pics,- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes, I've checked them out and there's lots of detailed pics from people who have been really imaculate on their rebuild/restores. That's one place where I got some inspiration abotu this project. Like I said, it'll probably be the las boat I ever own and I got it scandlously cheap, so I could put anouther $1000-1500 in it and have a great riding and functioning craft; *know what I have and still be less money than buying something compatable off a dealer. *I'll probably be taking some pics of the before, middle stages and after as I go. Now concerning the pontoon, I think I'd need a co-signer to afford the fuel for it to go on the trip we're wanting to take. 200 mi round trip on a v-4 Johnson? I'd probably need a tanker to follow us. ?:^ Q Start a web page, Tim! *There are others that are very interesting to follow.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - That's an idea Larry, but I think it would be easier to post the pics on iBoats, seeing they have a section dedicated to rebuilds *with lots of pics on how-to *and various ideas. It's hard to imagine that somebody woudl do a hull up rebuild on a 16 ft. fiberglass runabout but it is done and done right. There's a 15 yr. old kid that took a clapped out aluminum Jon boat, ripped out the wood and redid the entire thing with many updates and made it litterally better than new. Very impressive to see his pics and how imaculate of care he took in the entire refurbish.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Here's a link to that specific thread I mentioned. I dont' think you have to register to see the pics: http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=286547 |
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"Harry " wrote in message m... On 7/19/10 7:44 PM, Happy wrote: "Harry " wrote in message m... On 7/19/10 6:33 PM, Happy wrote: "Harry " wrote in message ... On 7/19/10 5:54 PM, Tim wrote: On Jul 19, 4:31 pm, wrote: wrote in message ... I decided that since I found wood rot and a cracked manifold on the Marquis that maybe I should do a bit more investigating. Oh the engine is fine, but I have noticed that the aluminum pillars which hold the seats were loose on the floor. doing some investigating, the previous owners had used large lag screws and had drilled small holes in the plywood and ran the bolts in. Three of the five on one seat were loose and when I pulled them out they were rusty which made the seat totally unstable. Then I thought that I should get rid of the pillars and build boxes for the seats, also providing storage room for tools, spare prop, etc. Then I got to thinking that those rusty bolts are indicators of possible problems with the floor underneath. I have a very small access to the steel fuel tank which is mounted under the floor and I do have access to the sending unit as well as the anti-siphon valve, but the rubber hose going to the fuel pump is getting cracks in it, and I can't have that. So, my carpenter buddy and I are deciding to rip out the floor and sides for a total re-do. I want to check to see the validity of the fuel tank for rust etc. Plus add an extra fuel tank for longer cruising range instead of strapping a spare tank onto the swim platform as originally planned. This also gives a chance to check out the stringers and investigate for other wood rot and replace if necessary. I've already removed the back panel and the transom's integrity is fine. No rot there. Saturday I went to the a very reputable boat shop; the best in the area- which is about 30 mi away, and was able to talk with a mechanic who has worked there for about 20+ years. Yep, he's just about seen it all. I told him about the cracked manifold which had been psuedo- repaired with JB weld and he said to bring the manifold in and they could inspect it, then weld it. I asked if it would hold, and they said they've had boats out for better than 10 years with no failure to their repairs, and it would be at a fraction of the cost of a new one and they would also inspect the risers as well. But if the manifold[s] were too far gone (and there is that chance) they would install new ones for about the same price as what I could get the parts from the ebay stores and do it myself. I thought that was a pretty good deal. I've removed the bent up bow railing which is of no concern to me. While I was at the marina, I got a healthy can of marine epoxy which they use, and will start in on filling holes where I pulled the railing off and work on the nicks in the hull. when I'm done sanding and prepping the necessary spots, I'll take it to them to apply gel coat where necessary. I plan on getting rid of the antique depth finder and the Ray Jefferson radio and update/replace anything else that needs be while I have the boat stripped down. I could go on about my project but Jimmy the carpenter and I are going to lay out a floor plan and add conveniences to fit instead of just throwing them in and tying them down. Well, there will be no river trip for the wife and myself this year, but- duty now for the future. You could still do a trip with the pontoon, say from cave in rock to ky lake, just put in at the cave and I will take your truck on a 2 day joy ride to KY Lake marina??? sounds fun to me... also Iboats restoration forum is full of rebuilds and pics,- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes, I've checked them out and there's lots of detailed pics from people who have been really imaculate on their rebuild/restores. That's one place where I got some inspiration abotu this project. Like I said, it'll probably be the las boat I ever own and I got it scandlously cheap, so I could put anouther $1000-1500 in it and have a great riding and functioning craft; know what I have and still be less money than buying something compatable off a dealer. I'll probably be taking some pics of the before, middle stages and after as I go. Now concerning the pontoon, I think I'd need a co-signer to afford the fuel for it to go on the trip we're wanting to take. 200 mi round trip on a v-4 Johnson? I'd probably need a tanker to follow us. ?:^ Q If you are going to spend the time and money on restoring that pontoon boat, why not buy yourself a new non-current 100 hp Yamaha four stroke, or something similar. Better mpg's, quieter, et cetera. who in his right mind would want a 4 stroke yamy when e-tec rules the water and is cleaner and gets better fuel economy and can pull a yamaha of equal HP backward and to its grave?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-7I00cZUE0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2gIdMRwfuM On what planet does e-tec rule the water you must not get out much Harry??? its the third rock from the sun I'm unimpressed by e-tecs, their market penetration, and their owners. I just got to ask...what in hell could you have against e-tec owners? just pure jealousy or what? and have you actually ever been in front of a e-tec? Obama has a e-tec... |
Stripping the Marquis
"Larry" wrote in message ... Happy wrote: "Harry " wrote in message ... On 7/19/10 5:54 PM, Tim wrote: On Jul 19, 4:31 pm, wrote: wrote in message ... I decided that since I found wood rot and a cracked manifold on the Marquis that maybe I should do a bit more investigating. Oh the engine is fine, but I have noticed that the aluminum pillars which hold the seats were loose on the floor. doing some investigating, the previous owners had used large lag screws and had drilled small holes in the plywood and ran the bolts in. Three of the five on one seat were loose and when I pulled them out they were rusty which made the seat totally unstable. Then I thought that I should get rid of the pillars and build boxes for the seats, also providing storage room for tools, spare prop, etc. Then I got to thinking that those rusty bolts are indicators of possible problems with the floor underneath. I have a very small access to the steel fuel tank which is mounted under the floor and I do have access to the sending unit as well as the anti-siphon valve, but the rubber hose going to the fuel pump is getting cracks in it, and I can't have that. So, my carpenter buddy and I are deciding to rip out the floor and sides for a total re-do. I want to check to see the validity of the fuel tank for rust etc. Plus add an extra fuel tank for longer cruising range instead of strapping a spare tank onto the swim platform as originally planned. This also gives a chance to check out the stringers and investigate for other wood rot and replace if necessary. I've already removed the back panel and the transom's integrity is fine. No rot there. Saturday I went to the a very reputable boat shop; the best in the area- which is about 30 mi away, and was able to talk with a mechanic who has worked there for about 20+ years. Yep, he's just about seen it all. I told him about the cracked manifold which had been psuedo- repaired with JB weld and he said to bring the manifold in and they could inspect it, then weld it. I asked if it would hold, and they said they've had boats out for better than 10 years with no failure to their repairs, and it would be at a fraction of the cost of a new one and they would also inspect the risers as well. But if the manifold[s] were too far gone (and there is that chance) they would install new ones for about the same price as what I could get the parts from the ebay stores and do it myself. I thought that was a pretty good deal. I've removed the bent up bow railing which is of no concern to me. While I was at the marina, I got a healthy can of marine epoxy which they use, and will start in on filling holes where I pulled the railing off and work on the nicks in the hull. when I'm done sanding and prepping the necessary spots, I'll take it to them to apply gel coat where necessary. I plan on getting rid of the antique depth finder and the Ray Jefferson radio and update/replace anything else that needs be while I have the boat stripped down. I could go on about my project but Jimmy the carpenter and I are going to lay out a floor plan and add conveniences to fit instead of just throwing them in and tying them down. Well, there will be no river trip for the wife and myself this year, but- duty now for the future. You could still do a trip with the pontoon, say from cave in rock to ky lake, just put in at the cave and I will take your truck on a 2 day joy ride to KY Lake marina??? sounds fun to me... also Iboats restoration forum is full of rebuilds and pics,- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes, I've checked them out and there's lots of detailed pics from people who have been really imaculate on their rebuild/restores. That's one place where I got some inspiration abotu this project. Like I said, it'll probably be the las boat I ever own and I got it scandlously cheap, so I could put anouther $1000-1500 in it and have a great riding and functioning craft; know what I have and still be less money than buying something compatable off a dealer. I'll probably be taking some pics of the before, middle stages and after as I go. Now concerning the pontoon, I think I'd need a co-signer to afford the fuel for it to go on the trip we're wanting to take. 200 mi round trip on a v-4 Johnson? I'd probably need a tanker to follow us. ?:^ Q If you are going to spend the time and money on restoring that pontoon boat, why not buy yourself a new non-current 100 hp Yamaha four stroke, or something similar. Better mpg's, quieter, et cetera. who in his right mind would want a 4 stroke yamy when e-tec rules the water and is cleaner and gets better fuel economy and can pull a yamaha of equal HP backward and to its grave?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-7I00cZUE0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2gIdMRwfuM That is impressive but I'd also like to see them compare fuel economy and emissions. The word up around here is they rule on fuel economy and emissions, there torque is amazing, I've been at the controls of 90hp e-tec in aluminum river john and I felt like I had 150 straped to my ass. I do like the older 2 cycle yamaha but unless your a old lady and scared of power 4 cycle yamaha's suck! I guess they would be ok for the wife and kids but not for me...hell no!! slow assed over weight dogs. |
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On 7/19/10 8:59 PM, Happy wrote:
"Harry " wrote in message m... On 7/19/10 7:44 PM, Happy wrote: "Harry " wrote in message m... On 7/19/10 6:33 PM, Happy wrote: "Harry " wrote in message ... On 7/19/10 5:54 PM, Tim wrote: On Jul 19, 4:31 pm, wrote: wrote in message ... I decided that since I found wood rot and a cracked manifold on the Marquis that maybe I should do a bit more investigating. Oh the engine is fine, but I have noticed that the aluminum pillars which hold the seats were loose on the floor. doing some investigating, the previous owners had used large lag screws and had drilled small holes in the plywood and ran the bolts in. Three of the five on one seat were loose and when I pulled them out they were rusty which made the seat totally unstable. Then I thought that I should get rid of the pillars and build boxes for the seats, also providing storage room for tools, spare prop, etc. Then I got to thinking that those rusty bolts are indicators of possible problems with the floor underneath. I have a very small access to the steel fuel tank which is mounted under the floor and I do have access to the sending unit as well as the anti-siphon valve, but the rubber hose going to the fuel pump is getting cracks in it, and I can't have that. So, my carpenter buddy and I are deciding to rip out the floor and sides for a total re-do. I want to check to see the validity of the fuel tank for rust etc. Plus add an extra fuel tank for longer cruising range instead of strapping a spare tank onto the swim platform as originally planned. This also gives a chance to check out the stringers and investigate for other wood rot and replace if necessary. I've already removed the back panel and the transom's integrity is fine. No rot there. Saturday I went to the a very reputable boat shop; the best in the area- which is about 30 mi away, and was able to talk with a mechanic who has worked there for about 20+ years. Yep, he's just about seen it all. I told him about the cracked manifold which had been psuedo- repaired with JB weld and he said to bring the manifold in and they could inspect it, then weld it. I asked if it would hold, and they said they've had boats out for better than 10 years with no failure to their repairs, and it would be at a fraction of the cost of a new one and they would also inspect the risers as well. But if the manifold[s] were too far gone (and there is that chance) they would install new ones for about the same price as what I could get the parts from the ebay stores and do it myself. I thought that was a pretty good deal. I've removed the bent up bow railing which is of no concern to me. While I was at the marina, I got a healthy can of marine epoxy which they use, and will start in on filling holes where I pulled the railing off and work on the nicks in the hull. when I'm done sanding and prepping the necessary spots, I'll take it to them to apply gel coat where necessary. I plan on getting rid of the antique depth finder and the Ray Jefferson radio and update/replace anything else that needs be while I have the boat stripped down. I could go on about my project but Jimmy the carpenter and I are going to lay out a floor plan and add conveniences to fit instead of just throwing them in and tying them down. Well, there will be no river trip for the wife and myself this year, but- duty now for the future. You could still do a trip with the pontoon, say from cave in rock to ky lake, just put in at the cave and I will take your truck on a 2 day joy ride to KY Lake marina??? sounds fun to me... also Iboats restoration forum is full of rebuilds and pics,- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes, I've checked them out and there's lots of detailed pics from people who have been really imaculate on their rebuild/restores. That's one place where I got some inspiration abotu this project. Like I said, it'll probably be the las boat I ever own and I got it scandlously cheap, so I could put anouther $1000-1500 in it and have a great riding and functioning craft; know what I have and still be less money than buying something compatable off a dealer. I'll probably be taking some pics of the before, middle stages and after as I go. Now concerning the pontoon, I think I'd need a co-signer to afford the fuel for it to go on the trip we're wanting to take. 200 mi round trip on a v-4 Johnson? I'd probably need a tanker to follow us. ?:^ Q If you are going to spend the time and money on restoring that pontoon boat, why not buy yourself a new non-current 100 hp Yamaha four stroke, or something similar. Better mpg's, quieter, et cetera. who in his right mind would want a 4 stroke yamy when e-tec rules the water and is cleaner and gets better fuel economy and can pull a yamaha of equal HP backward and to its grave?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-7I00cZUE0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2gIdMRwfuM On what planet does e-tec rule the water you must not get out much Harry??? its the third rock from the sun I'm unimpressed by e-tecs, their market penetration, and their owners. I just got to ask...what in hell could you have against e-tec owners? just pure jealousy or what? and have you actually ever been in front of a e-tec? Obama has a e-tec... There are three e-tecs at last count in my local marina. One seems to be always in the shop for repair. I get a chuckle from the overzealous owners of e=tecs. We have one in this newsgroup. He's bull****ed about every aspect of its operation here. |
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"Tim" wrote in message ... On Jul 19, 7:45 pm, Tim wrote: On Jul 19, 7:11 pm, Larry wrote: Tim wrote: On Jul 19, 4:31 pm, wrote: wrote in message ... I decided that since I found wood rot and a cracked manifold on the Marquis that maybe I should do a bit more investigating. Oh the engine is fine, but I have noticed that the aluminum pillars which hold the seats were loose on the floor. doing some investigating, the previous owners had used large lag screws and had drilled small holes in the plywood and ran the bolts in. Three of the five on one seat were loose and when I pulled them out they were rusty which made the seat totally unstable. Then I thought that I should get rid of the pillars and build boxes for the seats, also providing storage room for tools, spare prop, etc. Then I got to thinking that those rusty bolts are indicators of possible problems with the floor underneath. I have a very small access to the steel fuel tank which is mounted under the floor and I do have access to the sending unit as well as the anti-siphon valve, but the rubber hose going to the fuel pump is getting cracks in it, and I can't have that. So, my carpenter buddy and I are deciding to rip out the floor and sides for a total re-do. I want to check to see the validity of the fuel tank for rust etc. Plus add an extra fuel tank for longer cruising range instead of strapping a spare tank onto the swim platform as originally planned. This also gives a chance to check out the stringers and investigate for other wood rot and replace if necessary. I've already removed the back panel and the transom's integrity is fine. No rot there. Saturday I went to the a very reputable boat shop; the best in the area- which is about 30 mi away, and was able to talk with a mechanic who has worked there for about 20+ years. Yep, he's just about seen it all. I told him about the cracked manifold which had been psuedo- repaired with JB weld and he said to bring the manifold in and they could inspect it, then weld it. I asked if it would hold, and they said they've had boats out for better than 10 years with no failure to their repairs, and it would be at a fraction of the cost of a new one and they would also inspect the risers as well. But if the manifold[s] were too far gone (and there is that chance) they would install new ones for about the same price as what I could get the parts from the ebay stores and do it myself. I thought that was a pretty good deal. I've removed the bent up bow railing which is of no concern to me. While I was at the marina, I got a healthy can of marine epoxy which they use, and will start in on filling holes where I pulled the railing off and work on the nicks in the hull. when I'm done sanding and prepping the necessary spots, I'll take it to them to apply gel coat where necessary. I plan on getting rid of the antique depth finder and the Ray Jefferson radio and update/replace anything else that needs be while I have the boat stripped down. I could go on about my project but Jimmy the carpenter and I are going to lay out a floor plan and add conveniences to fit instead of just throwing them in and tying them down. Well, there will be no river trip for the wife and myself this year, but- duty now for the future. You could still do a trip with the pontoon, say from cave in rock to ky lake, just put in at the cave and I will take your truck on a 2 day joy ride to KY Lake marina??? sounds fun to me... also Iboats restoration forum is full of rebuilds and pics,- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes, I've checked them out and there's lots of detailed pics from people who have been really imaculate on their rebuild/restores. That's one place where I got some inspiration abotu this project. Like I said, it'll probably be the las boat I ever own and I got it scandlously cheap, so I could put anouther $1000-1500 in it and have a great riding and functioning craft; know what I have and still be less money than buying something compatable off a dealer. I'll probably be taking some pics of the before, middle stages and after as I go. Now concerning the pontoon, I think I'd need a co-signer to afford the fuel for it to go on the trip we're wanting to take. 200 mi round trip on a v-4 Johnson? I'd probably need a tanker to follow us. ?:^ Q Start a web page, Tim! There are others that are very interesting to follow.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - That's an idea Larry, but I think it would be easier to post the pics on iBoats, seeing they have a section dedicated to rebuilds with lots of pics on how-to and various ideas. It's hard to imagine that somebody woudl do a hull up rebuild on a 16 ft. fiberglass runabout but it is done and done right. There's a 15 yr. old kid that took a clapped out aluminum Jon boat, ripped out the wood and redid the entire thing with many updates and made it litterally better than new. Very impressive to see his pics and how imaculate of care he took in the entire refurbish.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Here's a link to that specific thread I mentioned. I dont' think you have to register to see the pics: http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=286547 and he's only 15 years old, thats is so cool |
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On 7/19/10 9:09 PM, Happy wrote:
"Larry" wrote in message ... Happy wrote: "Harry " wrote in message ... On 7/19/10 5:54 PM, Tim wrote: On Jul 19, 4:31 pm, wrote: wrote in message ... I decided that since I found wood rot and a cracked manifold on the Marquis that maybe I should do a bit more investigating. Oh the engine is fine, but I have noticed that the aluminum pillars which hold the seats were loose on the floor. doing some investigating, the previous owners had used large lag screws and had drilled small holes in the plywood and ran the bolts in. Three of the five on one seat were loose and when I pulled them out they were rusty which made the seat totally unstable. Then I thought that I should get rid of the pillars and build boxes for the seats, also providing storage room for tools, spare prop, etc. Then I got to thinking that those rusty bolts are indicators of possible problems with the floor underneath. I have a very small access to the steel fuel tank which is mounted under the floor and I do have access to the sending unit as well as the anti-siphon valve, but the rubber hose going to the fuel pump is getting cracks in it, and I can't have that. So, my carpenter buddy and I are deciding to rip out the floor and sides for a total re-do. I want to check to see the validity of the fuel tank for rust etc. Plus add an extra fuel tank for longer cruising range instead of strapping a spare tank onto the swim platform as originally planned. This also gives a chance to check out the stringers and investigate for other wood rot and replace if necessary. I've already removed the back panel and the transom's integrity is fine. No rot there. Saturday I went to the a very reputable boat shop; the best in the area- which is about 30 mi away, and was able to talk with a mechanic who has worked there for about 20+ years. Yep, he's just about seen it all. I told him about the cracked manifold which had been psuedo- repaired with JB weld and he said to bring the manifold in and they could inspect it, then weld it. I asked if it would hold, and they said they've had boats out for better than 10 years with no failure to their repairs, and it would be at a fraction of the cost of a new one and they would also inspect the risers as well. But if the manifold[s] were too far gone (and there is that chance) they would install new ones for about the same price as what I could get the parts from the ebay stores and do it myself. I thought that was a pretty good deal. I've removed the bent up bow railing which is of no concern to me. While I was at the marina, I got a healthy can of marine epoxy which they use, and will start in on filling holes where I pulled the railing off and work on the nicks in the hull. when I'm done sanding and prepping the necessary spots, I'll take it to them to apply gel coat where necessary. I plan on getting rid of the antique depth finder and the Ray Jefferson radio and update/replace anything else that needs be while I have the boat stripped down. I could go on about my project but Jimmy the carpenter and I are going to lay out a floor plan and add conveniences to fit instead of just throwing them in and tying them down. Well, there will be no river trip for the wife and myself this year, but- duty now for the future. You could still do a trip with the pontoon, say from cave in rock to ky lake, just put in at the cave and I will take your truck on a 2 day joy ride to KY Lake marina??? sounds fun to me... also Iboats restoration forum is full of rebuilds and pics,- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes, I've checked them out and there's lots of detailed pics from people who have been really imaculate on their rebuild/restores. That's one place where I got some inspiration abotu this project. Like I said, it'll probably be the las boat I ever own and I got it scandlously cheap, so I could put anouther $1000-1500 in it and have a great riding and functioning craft; know what I have and still be less money than buying something compatable off a dealer. I'll probably be taking some pics of the before, middle stages and after as I go. Now concerning the pontoon, I think I'd need a co-signer to afford the fuel for it to go on the trip we're wanting to take. 200 mi round trip on a v-4 Johnson? I'd probably need a tanker to follow us. ?:^ Q If you are going to spend the time and money on restoring that pontoon boat, why not buy yourself a new non-current 100 hp Yamaha four stroke, or something similar. Better mpg's, quieter, et cetera. who in his right mind would want a 4 stroke yamy when e-tec rules the water and is cleaner and gets better fuel economy and can pull a yamaha of equal HP backward and to its grave?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-7I00cZUE0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2gIdMRwfuM That is impressive but I'd also like to see them compare fuel economy and emissions. The word up around here is they rule on fuel economy and emissions, there torque is amazing, I've been at the controls of 90hp e-tec in aluminum river john and I felt like I had 150 straped to my ass. I do like the older 2 cycle yamaha but unless your a old lady and scared of power 4 cycle yamaha's suck! I guess they would be ok for the wife and kids but not for me...hell no!! slow assed over weight dogs. Overweight? The 250 hp etec weighs 518 pounds. The new four stroke Yamaha 250 Vmax weighs 505 pounds. In other words, they weigh about the same. I doubt e-tecs will beat a fourstroker on economy, emissions or noise. I suspect the numbers are pretty damned close. As for that tired old youtube video, it's been shot to **** a zillion times already. The owners of evinrude's brand name rigged the test. |
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"Harry " wrote in message m... On 7/19/10 9:09 PM, Happy wrote: "Larry" wrote in message ... Happy wrote: "Harry " wrote in message ... On 7/19/10 5:54 PM, Tim wrote: On Jul 19, 4:31 pm, wrote: wrote in message ... I decided that since I found wood rot and a cracked manifold on the Marquis that maybe I should do a bit more investigating. Oh the engine is fine, but I have noticed that the aluminum pillars which hold the seats were loose on the floor. doing some investigating, the previous owners had used large lag screws and had drilled small holes in the plywood and ran the bolts in. Three of the five on one seat were loose and when I pulled them out they were rusty which made the seat totally unstable. Then I thought that I should get rid of the pillars and build boxes for the seats, also providing storage room for tools, spare prop, etc. Then I got to thinking that those rusty bolts are indicators of possible problems with the floor underneath. I have a very small access to the steel fuel tank which is mounted under the floor and I do have access to the sending unit as well as the anti-siphon valve, but the rubber hose going to the fuel pump is getting cracks in it, and I can't have that. So, my carpenter buddy and I are deciding to rip out the floor and sides for a total re-do. I want to check to see the validity of the fuel tank for rust etc. Plus add an extra fuel tank for longer cruising range instead of strapping a spare tank onto the swim platform as originally planned. This also gives a chance to check out the stringers and investigate for other wood rot and replace if necessary. I've already removed the back panel and the transom's integrity is fine. No rot there. Saturday I went to the a very reputable boat shop; the best in the area- which is about 30 mi away, and was able to talk with a mechanic who has worked there for about 20+ years. Yep, he's just about seen it all. I told him about the cracked manifold which had been psuedo- repaired with JB weld and he said to bring the manifold in and they could inspect it, then weld it. I asked if it would hold, and they said they've had boats out for better than 10 years with no failure to their repairs, and it would be at a fraction of the cost of a new one and they would also inspect the risers as well. But if the manifold[s] were too far gone (and there is that chance) they would install new ones for about the same price as what I could get the parts from the ebay stores and do it myself. I thought that was a pretty good deal. I've removed the bent up bow railing which is of no concern to me. While I was at the marina, I got a healthy can of marine epoxy which they use, and will start in on filling holes where I pulled the railing off and work on the nicks in the hull. when I'm done sanding and prepping the necessary spots, I'll take it to them to apply gel coat where necessary. I plan on getting rid of the antique depth finder and the Ray Jefferson radio and update/replace anything else that needs be while I have the boat stripped down. I could go on about my project but Jimmy the carpenter and I are going to lay out a floor plan and add conveniences to fit instead of just throwing them in and tying them down. Well, there will be no river trip for the wife and myself this year, but- duty now for the future. You could still do a trip with the pontoon, say from cave in rock to ky lake, just put in at the cave and I will take your truck on a 2 day joy ride to KY Lake marina??? sounds fun to me... also Iboats restoration forum is full of rebuilds and pics,- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes, I've checked them out and there's lots of detailed pics from people who have been really imaculate on their rebuild/restores. That's one place where I got some inspiration abotu this project. Like I said, it'll probably be the las boat I ever own and I got it scandlously cheap, so I could put anouther $1000-1500 in it and have a great riding and functioning craft; know what I have and still be less money than buying something compatable off a dealer. I'll probably be taking some pics of the before, middle stages and after as I go. Now concerning the pontoon, I think I'd need a co-signer to afford the fuel for it to go on the trip we're wanting to take. 200 mi round trip on a v-4 Johnson? I'd probably need a tanker to follow us. ?:^ Q If you are going to spend the time and money on restoring that pontoon boat, why not buy yourself a new non-current 100 hp Yamaha four stroke, or something similar. Better mpg's, quieter, et cetera. who in his right mind would want a 4 stroke yamy when e-tec rules the water and is cleaner and gets better fuel economy and can pull a yamaha of equal HP backward and to its grave?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-7I00cZUE0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2gIdMRwfuM That is impressive but I'd also like to see them compare fuel economy and emissions. The word up around here is they rule on fuel economy and emissions, there torque is amazing, I've been at the controls of 90hp e-tec in aluminum river john and I felt like I had 150 straped to my ass. I do like the older 2 cycle yamaha but unless your a old lady and scared of power 4 cycle yamaha's suck! I guess they would be ok for the wife and kids but not for me...hell no!! slow assed over weight dogs. Overweight? The 250 hp etec weighs 518 pounds. The new four stroke Yamaha 250 Vmax weighs 505 pounds. In other words, they weigh about the same. I doubt e-tecs will beat a fourstroker on economy, emissions or noise. I suspect the numbers are pretty damned close. As for that tired old youtube video, it's been shot to **** a zillion times already. The owners of evinrude's brand name rigged the test. "I doubt " so you really don't know, go get you one and impress yourself. and of course evinrude rigged the test, you can clearly see the yamaha driver is behind on the throttle and the e-tec gets the grunt on, but having operated both the Yamaha and e-tec Yamaha 4 stroke has no game compaired to the e-tec and I don't have to "doubt" about it, I have experienced it first hand and see it most everyday, weak sick ass but quiet 4 strokes. man you got to be some kind of fruit cake to not know the dif and be a boaty guy...theres just know way harry...its funny as hell really...lolololl |
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On 7/19/10 9:41 PM, Happy wrote:
"Harry " wrote in message m... On 7/19/10 9:09 PM, Happy wrote: "Larry" wrote in message ... Happy wrote: "Harry " wrote in message ... On 7/19/10 5:54 PM, Tim wrote: On Jul 19, 4:31 pm, wrote: wrote in message ... I decided that since I found wood rot and a cracked manifold on the Marquis that maybe I should do a bit more investigating. Oh the engine is fine, but I have noticed that the aluminum pillars which hold the seats were loose on the floor. doing some investigating, the previous owners had used large lag screws and had drilled small holes in the plywood and ran the bolts in. Three of the five on one seat were loose and when I pulled them out they were rusty which made the seat totally unstable. Then I thought that I should get rid of the pillars and build boxes for the seats, also providing storage room for tools, spare prop, etc. Then I got to thinking that those rusty bolts are indicators of possible problems with the floor underneath. I have a very small access to the steel fuel tank which is mounted under the floor and I do have access to the sending unit as well as the anti-siphon valve, but the rubber hose going to the fuel pump is getting cracks in it, and I can't have that. So, my carpenter buddy and I are deciding to rip out the floor and sides for a total re-do. I want to check to see the validity of the fuel tank for rust etc. Plus add an extra fuel tank for longer cruising range instead of strapping a spare tank onto the swim platform as originally planned. This also gives a chance to check out the stringers and investigate for other wood rot and replace if necessary. I've already removed the back panel and the transom's integrity is fine. No rot there. Saturday I went to the a very reputable boat shop; the best in the area- which is about 30 mi away, and was able to talk with a mechanic who has worked there for about 20+ years. Yep, he's just about seen it all. I told him about the cracked manifold which had been psuedo- repaired with JB weld and he said to bring the manifold in and they could inspect it, then weld it. I asked if it would hold, and they said they've had boats out for better than 10 years with no failure to their repairs, and it would be at a fraction of the cost of a new one and they would also inspect the risers as well. But if the manifold[s] were too far gone (and there is that chance) they would install new ones for about the same price as what I could get the parts from the ebay stores and do it myself. I thought that was a pretty good deal. I've removed the bent up bow railing which is of no concern to me. While I was at the marina, I got a healthy can of marine epoxy which they use, and will start in on filling holes where I pulled the railing off and work on the nicks in the hull. when I'm done sanding and prepping the necessary spots, I'll take it to them to apply gel coat where necessary. I plan on getting rid of the antique depth finder and the Ray Jefferson radio and update/replace anything else that needs be while I have the boat stripped down. I could go on about my project but Jimmy the carpenter and I are going to lay out a floor plan and add conveniences to fit instead of just throwing them in and tying them down. Well, there will be no river trip for the wife and myself this year, but- duty now for the future. You could still do a trip with the pontoon, say from cave in rock to ky lake, just put in at the cave and I will take your truck on a 2 day joy ride to KY Lake marina??? sounds fun to me... also Iboats restoration forum is full of rebuilds and pics,- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes, I've checked them out and there's lots of detailed pics from people who have been really imaculate on their rebuild/restores. That's one place where I got some inspiration abotu this project. Like I said, it'll probably be the las boat I ever own and I got it scandlously cheap, so I could put anouther $1000-1500 in it and have a great riding and functioning craft; know what I have and still be less money than buying something compatable off a dealer. I'll probably be taking some pics of the before, middle stages and after as I go. Now concerning the pontoon, I think I'd need a co-signer to afford the fuel for it to go on the trip we're wanting to take. 200 mi round trip on a v-4 Johnson? I'd probably need a tanker to follow us. ?:^ Q If you are going to spend the time and money on restoring that pontoon boat, why not buy yourself a new non-current 100 hp Yamaha four stroke, or something similar. Better mpg's, quieter, et cetera. who in his right mind would want a 4 stroke yamy when e-tec rules the water and is cleaner and gets better fuel economy and can pull a yamaha of equal HP backward and to its grave?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-7I00cZUE0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2gIdMRwfuM That is impressive but I'd also like to see them compare fuel economy and emissions. The word up around here is they rule on fuel economy and emissions, there torque is amazing, I've been at the controls of 90hp e-tec in aluminum river john and I felt like I had 150 straped to my ass. I do like the older 2 cycle yamaha but unless your a old lady and scared of power 4 cycle yamaha's suck! I guess they would be ok for the wife and kids but not for me...hell no!! slow assed over weight dogs. Overweight? The 250 hp etec weighs 518 pounds. The new four stroke Yamaha 250 Vmax weighs 505 pounds. In other words, they weigh about the same. I doubt e-tecs will beat a fourstroker on economy, emissions or noise. I suspect the numbers are pretty damned close. As for that tired old youtube video, it's been shot to **** a zillion times already. The owners of evinrude's brand name rigged the test. "I doubt " so you really don't know, go get you one and impress yourself. and of course evinrude rigged the test, you can clearly see the yamaha driver is behind on the throttle and the e-tec gets the grunt on, but having operated both the Yamaha and e-tec Yamaha 4 stroke has no game compaired to the e-tec and I don't have to "doubt" about it, I have experienced it first hand and see it most everyday, weak sick ass but quiet 4 strokes. man you got to be some kind of fruit cake to not know the dif and be a boaty guy...theres just know way harry...its funny as hell really...lolololl Jesus, what are you...a high school dropout? Sorry I bothered. Are you also a political conservative? |
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"Harry " wrote in message m... On 7/19/10 9:41 PM, Happy wrote: "Harry " wrote in message m... On 7/19/10 9:09 PM, Happy wrote: "Larry" wrote in message ... Happy wrote: "Harry " wrote in message ... On 7/19/10 5:54 PM, Tim wrote: On Jul 19, 4:31 pm, wrote: wrote in message ... I decided that since I found wood rot and a cracked manifold on the Marquis that maybe I should do a bit more investigating. Oh the engine is fine, but I have noticed that the aluminum pillars which hold the seats were loose on the floor. doing some investigating, the previous owners had used large lag screws and had drilled small holes in the plywood and ran the bolts in. Three of the five on one seat were loose and when I pulled them out they were rusty which made the seat totally unstable. Then I thought that I should get rid of the pillars and build boxes for the seats, also providing storage room for tools, spare prop, etc. Then I got to thinking that those rusty bolts are indicators of possible problems with the floor underneath. I have a very small access to the steel fuel tank which is mounted under the floor and I do have access to the sending unit as well as the anti-siphon valve, but the rubber hose going to the fuel pump is getting cracks in it, and I can't have that. So, my carpenter buddy and I are deciding to rip out the floor and sides for a total re-do. I want to check to see the validity of the fuel tank for rust etc. Plus add an extra fuel tank for longer cruising range instead of strapping a spare tank onto the swim platform as originally planned. This also gives a chance to check out the stringers and investigate for other wood rot and replace if necessary. I've already removed the back panel and the transom's integrity is fine. No rot there. Saturday I went to the a very reputable boat shop; the best in the area- which is about 30 mi away, and was able to talk with a mechanic who has worked there for about 20+ years. Yep, he's just about seen it all. I told him about the cracked manifold which had been psuedo- repaired with JB weld and he said to bring the manifold in and they could inspect it, then weld it. I asked if it would hold, and they said they've had boats out for better than 10 years with no failure to their repairs, and it would be at a fraction of the cost of a new one and they would also inspect the risers as well. But if the manifold[s] were too far gone (and there is that chance) they would install new ones for about the same price as what I could get the parts from the ebay stores and do it myself. I thought that was a pretty good deal. I've removed the bent up bow railing which is of no concern to me. While I was at the marina, I got a healthy can of marine epoxy which they use, and will start in on filling holes where I pulled the railing off and work on the nicks in the hull. when I'm done sanding and prepping the necessary spots, I'll take it to them to apply gel coat where necessary. I plan on getting rid of the antique depth finder and the Ray Jefferson radio and update/replace anything else that needs be while I have the boat stripped down. I could go on about my project but Jimmy the carpenter and I are going to lay out a floor plan and add conveniences to fit instead of just throwing them in and tying them down. Well, there will be no river trip for the wife and myself this year, but- duty now for the future. You could still do a trip with the pontoon, say from cave in rock to ky lake, just put in at the cave and I will take your truck on a 2 day joy ride to KY Lake marina??? sounds fun to me... also Iboats restoration forum is full of rebuilds and pics,- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes, I've checked them out and there's lots of detailed pics from people who have been really imaculate on their rebuild/restores. That's one place where I got some inspiration abotu this project. Like I said, it'll probably be the las boat I ever own and I got it scandlously cheap, so I could put anouther $1000-1500 in it and have a great riding and functioning craft; know what I have and still be less money than buying something compatable off a dealer. I'll probably be taking some pics of the before, middle stages and after as I go. Now concerning the pontoon, I think I'd need a co-signer to afford the fuel for it to go on the trip we're wanting to take. 200 mi round trip on a v-4 Johnson? I'd probably need a tanker to follow us. ?:^ Q If you are going to spend the time and money on restoring that pontoon boat, why not buy yourself a new non-current 100 hp Yamaha four stroke, or something similar. Better mpg's, quieter, et cetera. who in his right mind would want a 4 stroke yamy when e-tec rules the water and is cleaner and gets better fuel economy and can pull a yamaha of equal HP backward and to its grave?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-7I00cZUE0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2gIdMRwfuM That is impressive but I'd also like to see them compare fuel economy and emissions. The word up around here is they rule on fuel economy and emissions, there torque is amazing, I've been at the controls of 90hp e-tec in aluminum river john and I felt like I had 150 straped to my ass. I do like the older 2 cycle yamaha but unless your a old lady and scared of power 4 cycle yamaha's suck! I guess they would be ok for the wife and kids but not for me...hell no!! slow assed over weight dogs. Overweight? The 250 hp etec weighs 518 pounds. The new four stroke Yamaha 250 Vmax weighs 505 pounds. In other words, they weigh about the same. I doubt e-tecs will beat a fourstroker on economy, emissions or noise. I suspect the numbers are pretty damned close. As for that tired old youtube video, it's been shot to **** a zillion times already. The owners of evinrude's brand name rigged the test. "I doubt " so you really don't know, go get you one and impress yourself. and of course evinrude rigged the test, you can clearly see the yamaha driver is behind on the throttle and the e-tec gets the grunt on, but having operated both the Yamaha and e-tec Yamaha 4 stroke has no game compaired to the e-tec and I don't have to "doubt" about it, I have experienced it first hand and see it most everyday, weak sick ass but quiet 4 strokes. man you got to be some kind of fruit cake to not know the dif and be a boaty guy...theres just know way harry...its funny as hell really...lolololl Jesus, what are you...a high school dropout? Sorry I bothered. Are you also a political conservative? now your calling on Jesus to help your yamaha, I'm sure he could sqeeze more toque from the 4 stroke if you pray real hard, but thats what it would take a real miracle. your not a little kid are you harry? because I don't like arguing online with little kids, and any boob knows 2 cycles have much more toque than a equally rated 4 stroke. now buzz off kid... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXTpI...eature=related |
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On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 17:57:50 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: Very impressive to see his pics and how imaculate of care he took in the entire refurbish.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Here's a link to that specific thread I mentioned. I dont' think you have to register to see the pics: http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=286547 Nice job indeed. |
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On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 20:09:04 -0500, "Happy"
wrote: I do like the older 2 cycle yamaha but unless your a old lady and scared of power 4 cycle yamaha's suck! I guess they would be ok for the wife and kids but not for me...hell no!! slow assed over weight dogs. All of the 4 stroke outboards seem to lack low end torque compared to a 2 stroke. They do run quieter and cleaner however, and are OK on power once you get them spinning fast enough. |
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"Happy" wrote in message
... "Harry ?" wrote in message m... On 7/19/10 9:41 PM, Happy wrote: "Harry ?" wrote in message m... On 7/19/10 9:09 PM, Happy wrote: "Larry" wrote in message ... Happy wrote: "Harry ?" wrote in message ... On 7/19/10 5:54 PM, Tim wrote: On Jul 19, 4:31 pm, wrote: wrote in message ... I decided that since I found wood rot and a cracked manifold on the Marquis that maybe I should do a bit more investigating. Oh the engine is fine, but I have noticed that the aluminum pillars which hold the seats were loose on the floor. doing some investigating, the previous owners had used large lag screws and had drilled small holes in the plywood and ran the bolts in. Three of the five on one seat were loose and when I pulled them out they were rusty which made the seat totally unstable. Then I thought that I should get rid of the pillars and build boxes for the seats, also providing storage room for tools, spare prop, etc. Then I got to thinking that those rusty bolts are indicators of possible problems with the floor underneath. I have a very small access to the steel fuel tank which is mounted under the floor and I do have access to the sending unit as well as the anti-siphon valve, but the rubber hose going to the fuel pump is getting cracks in it, and I can't have that. So, my carpenter buddy and I are deciding to rip out the floor and sides for a total re-do. I want to check to see the validity of the fuel tank for rust etc. Plus add an extra fuel tank for longer cruising range instead of strapping a spare tank onto the swim platform as originally planned. This also gives a chance to check out the stringers and investigate for other wood rot and replace if necessary. I've already removed the back panel and the transom's integrity is fine. No rot there. Saturday I went to the a very reputable boat shop; the best in the area- which is about 30 mi away, and was able to talk with a mechanic who has worked there for about 20+ years. Yep, he's just about seen it all. I told him about the cracked manifold which had been psuedo- repaired with JB weld and he said to bring the manifold in and they could inspect it, then weld it. I asked if it would hold, and they said they've had boats out for better than 10 years with no failure to their repairs, and it would be at a fraction of the cost of a new one and they would also inspect the risers as well. But if the manifold[s] were too far gone (and there is that chance) they would install new ones for about the same price as what I could get the parts from the ebay stores and do it myself. I thought that was a pretty good deal. I've removed the bent up bow railing which is of no concern to me. While I was at the marina, I got a healthy can of marine epoxy which they use, and will start in on filling holes where I pulled the railing off and work on the nicks in the hull. when I'm done sanding and prepping the necessary spots, I'll take it to them to apply gel coat where necessary. I plan on getting rid of the antique depth finder and the Ray Jefferson radio and update/replace anything else that needs be while I have the boat stripped down. I could go on about my project but Jimmy the carpenter and I are going to lay out a floor plan and add conveniences to fit instead of just throwing them in and tying them down. Well, there will be no river trip for the wife and myself this year, but- duty now for the future. You could still do a trip with the pontoon, say from cave in rock to ky lake, just put in at the cave and I will take your truck on a 2 day joy ride to KY Lake marina??? sounds fun to me... also Iboats restoration forum is full of rebuilds and pics,- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes, I've checked them out and there's lots of detailed pics from people who have been really imaculate on their rebuild/restores. That's one place where I got some inspiration abotu this project. Like I said, it'll probably be the las boat I ever own and I got it scandlously cheap, so I could put anouther $1000-1500 in it and have a great riding and functioning craft; know what I have and still be less money than buying something compatable off a dealer. I'll probably be taking some pics of the before, middle stages and after as I go. Now concerning the pontoon, I think I'd need a co-signer to afford the fuel for it to go on the trip we're wanting to take. 200 mi round trip on a v-4 Johnson? I'd probably need a tanker to follow us. ?:^ Q If you are going to spend the time and money on restoring that pontoon boat, why not buy yourself a new non-current 100 hp Yamaha four stroke, or something similar. Better mpg's, quieter, et cetera. who in his right mind would want a 4 stroke yamy when e-tec rules the water and is cleaner and gets better fuel economy and can pull a yamaha of equal HP backward and to its grave?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-7I00cZUE0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2gIdMRwfuM That is impressive but I'd also like to see them compare fuel economy and emissions. The word up around here is they rule on fuel economy and emissions, there torque is amazing, I've been at the controls of 90hp e-tec in aluminum river john and I felt like I had 150 straped to my ass. I do like the older 2 cycle yamaha but unless your a old lady and scared of power 4 cycle yamaha's suck! I guess they would be ok for the wife and kids but not for me...hell no!! slow assed over weight dogs. Overweight? The 250 hp etec weighs 518 pounds. The new four stroke Yamaha 250 Vmax weighs 505 pounds. In other words, they weigh about the same. I doubt e-tecs will beat a fourstroker on economy, emissions or noise. I suspect the numbers are pretty damned close. As for that tired old youtube video, it's been shot to **** a zillion times already. The owners of evinrude's brand name rigged the test. "I doubt " so you really don't know, go get you one and impress yourself. and of course evinrude rigged the test, you can clearly see the yamaha driver is behind on the throttle and the e-tec gets the grunt on, but having operated both the Yamaha and e-tec Yamaha 4 stroke has no game compaired to the e-tec and I don't have to "doubt" about it, I have experienced it first hand and see it most everyday, weak sick ass but quiet 4 strokes. man you got to be some kind of fruit cake to not know the dif and be a boaty guy...theres just know way harry...its funny as hell really...lolololl Jesus, what are you...a high school dropout? Sorry I bothered. Are you also a political conservative? now your calling on Jesus to help your yamaha, I'm sure he could sqeeze more toque from the 4 stroke if you pray real hard, but thats what it would take a real miracle. your not a little kid are you harry? because I don't like arguing online with little kids, and any boob knows 2 cycles have much more toque than a equally rated 4 stroke. now buzz off kid... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXTpI...eature=related You just saw Harry's version of conceding. He's done, finished, whipped. He's got nothing left but insults. Happens every time. Congratulations. -- Harold |
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On 7/19/10 10:23 PM, Happy wrote:
Jesus, what are you...a high school dropout? Sorry I bothered. Are you also a political conservative? now your calling on Jesus to help your yamaha, I'm sure he could sqeeze more toque from the 4 stroke if you pray real hard, but thats what it would take a real miracle. your not a little kid are you harry? because I don't like arguing online with little kids, and any boob knows 2 cycles have much more toque than a equally rated 4 stroke. now buzz off kid... 1. My Yamaha doesn't need any help from imaginary gods living somewhere in the sky. 2. As soon as you have some scientifically accurate, published tests that compare the torque "output" of similarly spec'd two stroke and four stroke outboard powerheads at various speeds, why you be sure to post 'em, eh? I'm aware that many two strokes momentarily might have more "ooomph" when one firewalls the throttle, but that's not a "feature" that is overwhelmingly important to most boaters. The two four stroke outboard rigs I have owned have gotten onto plane without firewalling. The rest of your claims about two stroke superiority in fuel consumption, noise, and emissions are just plain bull****. There are miniscule differences between the various brands of outboards of similar output in these areas, and some of these differences are the result of gearing, props, weight, et cetera. 3. You should hook up with SW Tom as an e-tec fanboy. His claims about the gph burn of his e-tec are so far off the charts, they are laughable. 4. Evinrude has a weak dealer network in the Chesapeake Bay area. It wasn't that strong before OMC went teats-up and a lot of dealers moved on to other brands. This may not be true in your area, but for every E-tec you might see around here, you see 10 Yamahas, 6 Mercs, and three Zukes. The Suzuki brand is the one that's growing in popularity, probably because its dealer network is improving. |
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On 7/20/10 8:13 AM, Harold wrote:
"Harry wrote in message ... On 7/19/10 10:23 PM, Happy wrote: Jesus, what are you...a high school dropout? Sorry I bothered. Are you also a political conservative? now your calling on Jesus to help your yamaha, I'm sure he could sqeeze more toque from the 4 stroke if you pray real hard, but thats what it would take a real miracle. your not a little kid are you harry? because I don't like arguing online with little kids, and any boob knows 2 cycles have much more toque than a equally rated 4 stroke. now buzz off kid... 1. My Yamaha doesn't need any help from imaginary gods living somewhere in the sky. 2. As soon as you have some scientifically accurate, published tests that compare the torque "output" of similarly spec'd two stroke and four stroke outboard powerheads at various speeds, why you be sure to post 'em, eh? I'm aware that many two strokes momentarily might have more "ooomph" when one firewalls the throttle, but that's not a "feature" that is overwhelmingly important to most boaters. The two four stroke outboard rigs I have owned have gotten onto plane without firewalling. The rest of your claims about two stroke superiority in fuel consumption, noise, and emissions are just plain bull****. There are miniscule differences between the various brands of outboards of similar output in these areas, and some of these differences are the result of gearing, props, weight, et cetera. 3. You should hook up with SW Tom as an e-tec fanboy. His claims about the gph burn of his e-tec are so far off the charts, they are laughable. 4. Evinrude has a weak dealer network in the Chesapeake Bay area. It wasn't that strong before OMC went teats-up and a lot of dealers moved on to other brands. This may not be true in your area, but for every E-tec you might see around here, you see 10 Yamahas, 6 Mercs, and three Zukes. The Suzuki brand is the one that's growing in popularity, probably because its dealer network is improving. 4A. MacDonalds sells the most hambergers. Volume equates to quality. Harold You don't even own a boat...and as far as I have seen from your zillions of posts, you don't really know anything about outboard motors. Therefore, your opinions on these matters are about as significant as your unexpressed opinions on the theories of modern naval warfare. |
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"Harry ?" wrote in message
... On 7/19/10 10:23 PM, Happy wrote: Jesus, what are you...a high school dropout? Sorry I bothered. Are you also a political conservative? now your calling on Jesus to help your yamaha, I'm sure he could sqeeze more toque from the 4 stroke if you pray real hard, but thats what it would take a real miracle. your not a little kid are you harry? because I don't like arguing online with little kids, and any boob knows 2 cycles have much more toque than a equally rated 4 stroke. now buzz off kid... 1. My Yamaha doesn't need any help from imaginary gods living somewhere in the sky. 2. As soon as you have some scientifically accurate, published tests that compare the torque "output" of similarly spec'd two stroke and four stroke outboard powerheads at various speeds, why you be sure to post 'em, eh? I'm aware that many two strokes momentarily might have more "ooomph" when one firewalls the throttle, but that's not a "feature" that is overwhelmingly important to most boaters. The two four stroke outboard rigs I have owned have gotten onto plane without firewalling. The rest of your claims about two stroke superiority in fuel consumption, noise, and emissions are just plain bull****. There are miniscule differences between the various brands of outboards of similar output in these areas, and some of these differences are the result of gearing, props, weight, et cetera. 3. You should hook up with SW Tom as an e-tec fanboy. His claims about the gph burn of his e-tec are so far off the charts, they are laughable. 4. Evinrude has a weak dealer network in the Chesapeake Bay area. It wasn't that strong before OMC went teats-up and a lot of dealers moved on to other brands. This may not be true in your area, but for every E-tec you might see around here, you see 10 Yamahas, 6 Mercs, and three Zukes. The Suzuki brand is the one that's growing in popularity, probably because its dealer network is improving. 4A. MacDonalds sells the most hambergers. Volume equates to quality. Harold |
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Harry  wrote:
On 7/19/10 7:44 PM, Happy wrote: "Harry " wrote in message m... On 7/19/10 6:33 PM, Happy wrote: "Harry " wrote in message ... On 7/19/10 5:54 PM, Tim wrote: On Jul 19, 4:31 pm, wrote: wrote in message ... I decided that since I found wood rot and a cracked manifold on the Marquis that maybe I should do a bit more investigating. Oh the engine is fine, but I have noticed that the aluminum pillars which hold the seats were loose on the floor. doing some investigating, the previous owners had used large lag screws and had drilled small holes in the plywood and ran the bolts in. Three of the five on one seat were loose and when I pulled them out they were rusty which made the seat totally unstable. Then I thought that I should get rid of the pillars and build boxes for the seats, also providing storage room for tools, spare prop, etc. Then I got to thinking that those rusty bolts are indicators of possible problems with the floor underneath. I have a very small access to the steel fuel tank which is mounted under the floor and I do have access to the sending unit as well as the anti-siphon valve, but the rubber hose going to the fuel pump is getting cracks in it, and I can't have that. So, my carpenter buddy and I are deciding to rip out the floor and sides for a total re-do. I want to check to see the validity of the fuel tank for rust etc. Plus add an extra fuel tank for longer cruising range instead of strapping a spare tank onto the swim platform as originally planned. This also gives a chance to check out the stringers and investigate for other wood rot and replace if necessary. I've already removed the back panel and the transom's integrity is fine. No rot there. Saturday I went to the a very reputable boat shop; the best in the area- which is about 30 mi away, and was able to talk with a mechanic who has worked there for about 20+ years. Yep, he's just about seen it all. I told him about the cracked manifold which had been psuedo- repaired with JB weld and he said to bring the manifold in and they could inspect it, then weld it. I asked if it would hold, and they said they've had boats out for better than 10 years with no failure to their repairs, and it would be at a fraction of the cost of a new one and they would also inspect the risers as well. But if the manifold[s] were too far gone (and there is that chance) they would install new ones for about the same price as what I could get the parts from the ebay stores and do it myself. I thought that was a pretty good deal. I've removed the bent up bow railing which is of no concern to me. While I was at the marina, I got a healthy can of marine epoxy which they use, and will start in on filling holes where I pulled the railing off and work on the nicks in the hull. when I'm done sanding and prepping the necessary spots, I'll take it to them to apply gel coat where necessary. I plan on getting rid of the antique depth finder and the Ray Jefferson radio and update/replace anything else that needs be while I have the boat stripped down. I could go on about my project but Jimmy the carpenter and I are going to lay out a floor plan and add conveniences to fit instead of just throwing them in and tying them down. Well, there will be no river trip for the wife and myself this year, but- duty now for the future. You could still do a trip with the pontoon, say from cave in rock to ky lake, just put in at the cave and I will take your truck on a 2 day joy ride to KY Lake marina??? sounds fun to me... also Iboats restoration forum is full of rebuilds and pics,- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes, I've checked them out and there's lots of detailed pics from people who have been really imaculate on their rebuild/restores. That's one place where I got some inspiration abotu this project. Like I said, it'll probably be the las boat I ever own and I got it scandlously cheap, so I could put anouther $1000-1500 in it and have a great riding and functioning craft; know what I have and still be less money than buying something compatable off a dealer. I'll probably be taking some pics of the before, middle stages and after as I go. Now concerning the pontoon, I think I'd need a co-signer to afford the fuel for it to go on the trip we're wanting to take. 200 mi round trip on a v-4 Johnson? I'd probably need a tanker to follow us. ?:^ Q If you are going to spend the time and money on restoring that pontoon boat, why not buy yourself a new non-current 100 hp Yamaha four stroke, or something similar. Better mpg's, quieter, et cetera. who in his right mind would want a 4 stroke yamy when e-tec rules the water and is cleaner and gets better fuel economy and can pull a yamaha of equal HP backward and to its grave?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-7I00cZUE0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2gIdMRwfuM On what planet does e-tec rule the water you must not get out much Harry??? its the third rock from the sun I'm unimpressed by e-tecs, their market penetration, and their owners. The USCG are owners. |
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On 7/20/10 7:41 PM, Larry wrote:
Harry  wrote: On 7/19/10 7:44 PM, Happy wrote: "Harry " wrote in message m... On 7/19/10 6:33 PM, Happy wrote: "Harry " wrote in message ... On 7/19/10 5:54 PM, Tim wrote: On Jul 19, 4:31 pm, wrote: wrote in message ... I decided that since I found wood rot and a cracked manifold on the Marquis that maybe I should do a bit more investigating. Oh the engine is fine, but I have noticed that the aluminum pillars which hold the seats were loose on the floor. doing some investigating, the previous owners had used large lag screws and had drilled small holes in the plywood and ran the bolts in. Three of the five on one seat were loose and when I pulled them out they were rusty which made the seat totally unstable. Then I thought that I should get rid of the pillars and build boxes for the seats, also providing storage room for tools, spare prop, etc. Then I got to thinking that those rusty bolts are indicators of possible problems with the floor underneath. I have a very small access to the steel fuel tank which is mounted under the floor and I do have access to the sending unit as well as the anti-siphon valve, but the rubber hose going to the fuel pump is getting cracks in it, and I can't have that. So, my carpenter buddy and I are deciding to rip out the floor and sides for a total re-do. I want to check to see the validity of the fuel tank for rust etc. Plus add an extra fuel tank for longer cruising range instead of strapping a spare tank onto the swim platform as originally planned. This also gives a chance to check out the stringers and investigate for other wood rot and replace if necessary. I've already removed the back panel and the transom's integrity is fine. No rot there. Saturday I went to the a very reputable boat shop; the best in the area- which is about 30 mi away, and was able to talk with a mechanic who has worked there for about 20+ years. Yep, he's just about seen it all. I told him about the cracked manifold which had been psuedo- repaired with JB weld and he said to bring the manifold in and they could inspect it, then weld it. I asked if it would hold, and they said they've had boats out for better than 10 years with no failure to their repairs, and it would be at a fraction of the cost of a new one and they would also inspect the risers as well. But if the manifold[s] were too far gone (and there is that chance) they would install new ones for about the same price as what I could get the parts from the ebay stores and do it myself. I thought that was a pretty good deal. I've removed the bent up bow railing which is of no concern to me. While I was at the marina, I got a healthy can of marine epoxy which they use, and will start in on filling holes where I pulled the railing off and work on the nicks in the hull. when I'm done sanding and prepping the necessary spots, I'll take it to them to apply gel coat where necessary. I plan on getting rid of the antique depth finder and the Ray Jefferson radio and update/replace anything else that needs be while I have the boat stripped down. I could go on about my project but Jimmy the carpenter and I are going to lay out a floor plan and add conveniences to fit instead of just throwing them in and tying them down. Well, there will be no river trip for the wife and myself this year, but- duty now for the future. You could still do a trip with the pontoon, say from cave in rock to ky lake, just put in at the cave and I will take your truck on a 2 day joy ride to KY Lake marina??? sounds fun to me... also Iboats restoration forum is full of rebuilds and pics,- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes, I've checked them out and there's lots of detailed pics from people who have been really imaculate on their rebuild/restores. That's one place where I got some inspiration abotu this project. Like I said, it'll probably be the las boat I ever own and I got it scandlously cheap, so I could put anouther $1000-1500 in it and have a great riding and functioning craft; know what I have and still be less money than buying something compatable off a dealer. I'll probably be taking some pics of the before, middle stages and after as I go. Now concerning the pontoon, I think I'd need a co-signer to afford the fuel for it to go on the trip we're wanting to take. 200 mi round trip on a v-4 Johnson? I'd probably need a tanker to follow us. ?:^ Q If you are going to spend the time and money on restoring that pontoon boat, why not buy yourself a new non-current 100 hp Yamaha four stroke, or something similar. Better mpg's, quieter, et cetera. who in his right mind would want a 4 stroke yamy when e-tec rules the water and is cleaner and gets better fuel economy and can pull a yamaha of equal HP backward and to its grave?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-7I00cZUE0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2gIdMRwfuM On what planet does e-tec rule the water you must not get out much Harry??? its the third rock from the sun I'm unimpressed by e-tecs, their market penetration, and their owners. The USCG are owners. Evinrude is buying what little market penetration it has. |
Stripping the Marquis
Harry  wrote:
On 7/19/10 9:41 PM, Happy wrote: "Harry " wrote in message m... On 7/19/10 9:09 PM, Happy wrote: "Larry" wrote in message ... Happy wrote: "Harry " wrote in message ... On 7/19/10 5:54 PM, Tim wrote: On Jul 19, 4:31 pm, wrote: wrote in message ... I decided that since I found wood rot and a cracked manifold on the Marquis that maybe I should do a bit more investigating. Oh the engine is fine, but I have noticed that the aluminum pillars which hold the seats were loose on the floor. doing some investigating, the previous owners had used large lag screws and had drilled small holes in the plywood and ran the bolts in. Three of the five on one seat were loose and when I pulled them out they were rusty which made the seat totally unstable. Then I thought that I should get rid of the pillars and build boxes for the seats, also providing storage room for tools, spare prop, etc. Then I got to thinking that those rusty bolts are indicators of possible problems with the floor underneath. I have a very small access to the steel fuel tank which is mounted under the floor and I do have access to the sending unit as well as the anti-siphon valve, but the rubber hose going to the fuel pump is getting cracks in it, and I can't have that. So, my carpenter buddy and I are deciding to rip out the floor and sides for a total re-do. I want to check to see the validity of the fuel tank for rust etc. Plus add an extra fuel tank for longer cruising range instead of strapping a spare tank onto the swim platform as originally planned. This also gives a chance to check out the stringers and investigate for other wood rot and replace if necessary. I've already removed the back panel and the transom's integrity is fine. No rot there. Saturday I went to the a very reputable boat shop; the best in the area- which is about 30 mi away, and was able to talk with a mechanic who has worked there for about 20+ years. Yep, he's just about seen it all. I told him about the cracked manifold which had been psuedo- repaired with JB weld and he said to bring the manifold in and they could inspect it, then weld it. I asked if it would hold, and they said they've had boats out for better than 10 years with no failure to their repairs, and it would be at a fraction of the cost of a new one and they would also inspect the risers as well. But if the manifold[s] were too far gone (and there is that chance) they would install new ones for about the same price as what I could get the parts from the ebay stores and do it myself. I thought that was a pretty good deal. I've removed the bent up bow railing which is of no concern to me. While I was at the marina, I got a healthy can of marine epoxy which they use, and will start in on filling holes where I pulled the railing off and work on the nicks in the hull. when I'm done sanding and prepping the necessary spots, I'll take it to them to apply gel coat where necessary. I plan on getting rid of the antique depth finder and the Ray Jefferson radio and update/replace anything else that needs be while I have the boat stripped down. I could go on about my project but Jimmy the carpenter and I are going to lay out a floor plan and add conveniences to fit instead of just throwing them in and tying them down. Well, there will be no river trip for the wife and myself this year, but- duty now for the future. You could still do a trip with the pontoon, say from cave in rock to ky lake, just put in at the cave and I will take your truck on a 2 day joy ride to KY Lake marina??? sounds fun to me... also Iboats restoration forum is full of rebuilds and pics,- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes, I've checked them out and there's lots of detailed pics from people who have been really imaculate on their rebuild/restores. That's one place where I got some inspiration abotu this project. Like I said, it'll probably be the las boat I ever own and I got it scandlously cheap, so I could put anouther $1000-1500 in it and have a great riding and functioning craft; know what I have and still be less money than buying something compatable off a dealer. I'll probably be taking some pics of the before, middle stages and after as I go. Now concerning the pontoon, I think I'd need a co-signer to afford the fuel for it to go on the trip we're wanting to take. 200 mi round trip on a v-4 Johnson? I'd probably need a tanker to follow us. ?:^ Q If you are going to spend the time and money on restoring that pontoon boat, why not buy yourself a new non-current 100 hp Yamaha four stroke, or something similar. Better mpg's, quieter, et cetera. who in his right mind would want a 4 stroke yamy when e-tec rules the water and is cleaner and gets better fuel economy and can pull a yamaha of equal HP backward and to its grave?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-7I00cZUE0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2gIdMRwfuM That is impressive but I'd also like to see them compare fuel economy and emissions. The word up around here is they rule on fuel economy and emissions, there torque is amazing, I've been at the controls of 90hp e-tec in aluminum river john and I felt like I had 150 straped to my ass. I do like the older 2 cycle yamaha but unless your a old lady and scared of power 4 cycle yamaha's suck! I guess they would be ok for the wife and kids but not for me...hell no!! slow assed over weight dogs. Overweight? The 250 hp etec weighs 518 pounds. The new four stroke Yamaha 250 Vmax weighs 505 pounds. In other words, they weigh about the same. I doubt e-tecs will beat a fourstroker on economy, emissions or noise. I suspect the numbers are pretty damned close. As for that tired old youtube video, it's been shot to **** a zillion times already. The owners of evinrude's brand name rigged the test. "I doubt " so you really don't know, go get you one and impress yourself. and of course evinrude rigged the test, you can clearly see the yamaha driver is behind on the throttle and the e-tec gets the grunt on, but having operated both the Yamaha and e-tec Yamaha 4 stroke has no game compaired to the e-tec and I don't have to "doubt" about it, I have experienced it first hand and see it most everyday, weak sick ass but quiet 4 strokes. man you got to be some kind of fruit cake to not know the dif and be a boaty guy...theres just know way harry...its funny as hell really...lolololl Jesus, what are you...a high school dropout? Sorry I bothered. Are you also a political conservative? What does his political affiliation have to do with his opinion of outboards? That seems to be your barometer whether the topic is, or is not, about politics. I like my 4-stroke Yamaha and I have owned other 4 stroke OB's and I think Obama is a joke. |
Stripping the Marquis
Happy wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message ... On Jul 19, 7:45 pm, Tim wrote: On Jul 19, 7:11 pm, Larry wrote: Tim wrote: On Jul 19, 4:31 pm, wrote: wrote in message ... I decided that since I found wood rot and a cracked manifold on the Marquis that maybe I should do a bit more investigating. Oh the engine is fine, but I have noticed that the aluminum pillars which hold the seats were loose on the floor. doing some investigating, the previous owners had used large lag screws and had drilled small holes in the plywood and ran the bolts in. Three of the five on one seat were loose and when I pulled them out they were rusty which made the seat totally unstable. Then I thought that I should get rid of the pillars and build boxes for the seats, also providing storage room for tools, spare prop, etc. Then I got to thinking that those rusty bolts are indicators of possible problems with the floor underneath. I have a very small access to the steel fuel tank which is mounted under the floor and I do have access to the sending unit as well as the anti-siphon valve, but the rubber hose going to the fuel pump is getting cracks in it, and I can't have that. So, my carpenter buddy and I are deciding to rip out the floor and sides for a total re-do. I want to check to see the validity of the fuel tank for rust etc. Plus add an extra fuel tank for longer cruising range instead of strapping a spare tank onto the swim platform as originally planned. This also gives a chance to check out the stringers and investigate for other wood rot and replace if necessary. I've already removed the back panel and the transom's integrity is fine. No rot there. Saturday I went to the a very reputable boat shop; the best in the area- which is about 30 mi away, and was able to talk with a mechanic who has worked there for about 20+ years. Yep, he's just about seen it all. I told him about the cracked manifold which had been psuedo- repaired with JB weld and he said to bring the manifold in and they could inspect it, then weld it. I asked if it would hold, and they said they've had boats out for better than 10 years with no failure to their repairs, and it would be at a fraction of the cost of a new one and they would also inspect the risers as well. But if the manifold[s] were too far gone (and there is that chance) they would install new ones for about the same price as what I could get the parts from the ebay stores and do it myself. I thought that was a pretty good deal. I've removed the bent up bow railing which is of no concern to me. While I was at the marina, I got a healthy can of marine epoxy which they use, and will start in on filling holes where I pulled the railing off and work on the nicks in the hull. when I'm done sanding and prepping the necessary spots, I'll take it to them to apply gel coat where necessary. I plan on getting rid of the antique depth finder and the Ray Jefferson radio and update/replace anything else that needs be while I have the boat stripped down. I could go on about my project but Jimmy the carpenter and I are going to lay out a floor plan and add conveniences to fit instead of just throwing them in and tying them down. Well, there will be no river trip for the wife and myself this year, but- duty now for the future. You could still do a trip with the pontoon, say from cave in rock to ky lake, just put in at the cave and I will take your truck on a 2 day joy ride to KY Lake marina??? sounds fun to me... also Iboats restoration forum is full of rebuilds and pics,- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes, I've checked them out and there's lots of detailed pics from people who have been really imaculate on their rebuild/restores. That's one place where I got some inspiration abotu this project. Like I said, it'll probably be the las boat I ever own and I got it scandlously cheap, so I could put anouther $1000-1500 in it and have a great riding and functioning craft; know what I have and still be less money than buying something compatable off a dealer. I'll probably be taking some pics of the before, middle stages and after as I go. Now concerning the pontoon, I think I'd need a co-signer to afford the fuel for it to go on the trip we're wanting to take. 200 mi round trip on a v-4 Johnson? I'd probably need a tanker to follow us. ?:^ Q Start a web page, Tim! There are others that are very interesting to follow.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - That's an idea Larry, but I think it would be easier to post the pics on iBoats, seeing they have a section dedicated to rebuilds with lots of pics on how-to and various ideas. It's hard to imagine that somebody woudl do a hull up rebuild on a 16 ft. fiberglass runabout but it is done and done right. There's a 15 yr. old kid that took a clapped out aluminum Jon boat, ripped out the wood and redid the entire thing with many updates and made it litterally better than new. Very impressive to see his pics and how imaculate of care he took in the entire refurbish.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Here's a link to that specific thread I mentioned. I dont' think you have to register to see the pics: http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=286547 and he's only 15 years old, thats is so cool Nice work for just about anyone. 15 years old? That *is* cool! |
Stripping the Marquis
Harry  wrote:
On 7/20/10 7:41 PM, Larry wrote: Harry  wrote: On 7/19/10 7:44 PM, Happy wrote: "Harry " wrote in message m... On 7/19/10 6:33 PM, Happy wrote: "Harry " wrote in message ... On 7/19/10 5:54 PM, Tim wrote: On Jul 19, 4:31 pm, wrote: wrote in message ... I decided that since I found wood rot and a cracked manifold on the Marquis that maybe I should do a bit more investigating. Oh the engine is fine, but I have noticed that the aluminum pillars which hold the seats were loose on the floor. doing some investigating, the previous owners had used large lag screws and had drilled small holes in the plywood and ran the bolts in. Three of the five on one seat were loose and when I pulled them out they were rusty which made the seat totally unstable. Then I thought that I should get rid of the pillars and build boxes for the seats, also providing storage room for tools, spare prop, etc. Then I got to thinking that those rusty bolts are indicators of possible problems with the floor underneath. I have a very small access to the steel fuel tank which is mounted under the floor and I do have access to the sending unit as well as the anti-siphon valve, but the rubber hose going to the fuel pump is getting cracks in it, and I can't have that. So, my carpenter buddy and I are deciding to rip out the floor and sides for a total re-do. I want to check to see the validity of the fuel tank for rust etc. Plus add an extra fuel tank for longer cruising range instead of strapping a spare tank onto the swim platform as originally planned. This also gives a chance to check out the stringers and investigate for other wood rot and replace if necessary. I've already removed the back panel and the transom's integrity is fine. No rot there. Saturday I went to the a very reputable boat shop; the best in the area- which is about 30 mi away, and was able to talk with a mechanic who has worked there for about 20+ years. Yep, he's just about seen it all. I told him about the cracked manifold which had been psuedo- repaired with JB weld and he said to bring the manifold in and they could inspect it, then weld it. I asked if it would hold, and they said they've had boats out for better than 10 years with no failure to their repairs, and it would be at a fraction of the cost of a new one and they would also inspect the risers as well. But if the manifold[s] were too far gone (and there is that chance) they would install new ones for about the same price as what I could get the parts from the ebay stores and do it myself. I thought that was a pretty good deal. I've removed the bent up bow railing which is of no concern to me. While I was at the marina, I got a healthy can of marine epoxy which they use, and will start in on filling holes where I pulled the railing off and work on the nicks in the hull. when I'm done sanding and prepping the necessary spots, I'll take it to them to apply gel coat where necessary. I plan on getting rid of the antique depth finder and the Ray Jefferson radio and update/replace anything else that needs be while I have the boat stripped down. I could go on about my project but Jimmy the carpenter and I are going to lay out a floor plan and add conveniences to fit instead of just throwing them in and tying them down. Well, there will be no river trip for the wife and myself this year, but- duty now for the future. You could still do a trip with the pontoon, say from cave in rock to ky lake, just put in at the cave and I will take your truck on a 2 day joy ride to KY Lake marina??? sounds fun to me... also Iboats restoration forum is full of rebuilds and pics,- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes, I've checked them out and there's lots of detailed pics from people who have been really imaculate on their rebuild/restores. That's one place where I got some inspiration abotu this project. Like I said, it'll probably be the las boat I ever own and I got it scandlously cheap, so I could put anouther $1000-1500 in it and have a great riding and functioning craft; know what I have and still be less money than buying something compatable off a dealer. I'll probably be taking some pics of the before, middle stages and after as I go. Now concerning the pontoon, I think I'd need a co-signer to afford the fuel for it to go on the trip we're wanting to take. 200 mi round trip on a v-4 Johnson? I'd probably need a tanker to follow us. ?:^ Q If you are going to spend the time and money on restoring that pontoon boat, why not buy yourself a new non-current 100 hp Yamaha four stroke, or something similar. Better mpg's, quieter, et cetera. who in his right mind would want a 4 stroke yamy when e-tec rules the water and is cleaner and gets better fuel economy and can pull a yamaha of equal HP backward and to its grave?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-7I00cZUE0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2gIdMRwfuM On what planet does e-tec rule the water you must not get out much Harry??? its the third rock from the sun I'm unimpressed by e-tecs, their market penetration, and their owners. The USCG are owners. Evinrude is buying what little market penetration it has. That's conjecture. Are you unimpressed by the USCG? |
Stripping the Marquis
On Jul 20, 7:22*pm, Larry wrote:
Happy wrote: "Tim" wrote in message .... On Jul 19, 7:45 pm, Tim wrote: On Jul 19, 7:11 pm, Larry wrote: Tim wrote: On Jul 19, 4:31 pm, wrote: wrote in message ... I decided that since I found wood rot and a cracked manifold on the Marquis that maybe I should do a bit more investigating. Oh the engine is fine, but I have noticed that the aluminum pillars which hold the seats were loose on the floor. doing some investigating, the previous owners had used large lag screws and had drilled small holes in the plywood and ran the bolts in. Three of the five on one seat were loose and when I pulled them out they were rusty which made the seat totally unstable. Then I thought that I should get rid of the pillars and build boxes for the seats, also providing storage room for tools, spare prop, etc. Then I got to thinking that those rusty bolts are indicators of possible problems with the floor underneath. I have a very small access to the steel fuel tank which is mounted under the floor and I do have access to the sending unit as well as the anti-siphon valve, but the rubber hose going to the fuel pump is getting cracks in it, and I can't have that. So, my carpenter buddy and I are deciding to rip out the floor and sides for a total re-do. I want to check to see the validity of the fuel tank for rust etc. Plus add an extra fuel tank for longer cruising range instead of strapping a spare tank onto the swim platform as originally planned. This also gives a chance to check out the stringers and investigate for other wood rot and replace if necessary. I've already removed the back panel and the transom's integrity is fine. No rot there. Saturday I went to the a very reputable boat shop; the best in the area- which is about 30 mi away, and was able to talk with a mechanic who has worked there for about 20+ years. Yep, he's just about seen it all. I told him about the cracked manifold which had been psuedo- repaired with JB weld and he said to bring the manifold in and they could inspect it, then weld it. I asked if it would hold, and they said they've had boats out for better than 10 years with no failure to their repairs, and it would be at a fraction of the cost of a new one and they would also inspect the risers as well. But if the manifold[s] were too far gone (and there is that chance) they would install new ones for about the same price as what I could get the parts from the ebay stores and do it myself. I thought that was a pretty good deal. I've removed the bent up bow railing which is of no concern to me. While I was at the marina, I got a healthy can of marine epoxy which they use, and will start in on filling holes where I pulled the railing off and work on the nicks in the hull. when I'm done sanding and prepping the necessary spots, I'll take it to them to apply gel coat where necessary. I plan on getting rid of the antique depth finder and the Ray Jefferson radio and update/replace anything else that needs be while I have the boat stripped down. I could go on about my project but Jimmy the carpenter and I are going to lay out a floor plan and add conveniences to fit instead of just throwing them in and tying them down. Well, there will be no river trip for the wife and myself this year, but- duty now for the future. You could still do a trip with the pontoon, say from cave in rock to ky lake, just put in at the cave and I will take your truck on a 2 day joy ride to KY Lake marina??? sounds fun to me... also Iboats restoration forum is full of rebuilds and pics,- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes, I've checked them out and there's lots of detailed pics from people who have been really imaculate on their rebuild/restores. That's one place where I got some inspiration abotu this project. Like I said, it'll probably be the las boat I ever own and I got it scandlously cheap, so I could put anouther $1000-1500 in it and have a great riding and functioning craft; know what I have and still be less money than buying something compatable off a dealer. I'll probably be taking some pics of the before, middle stages and after as I go. Now concerning the pontoon, I think I'd need a co-signer to afford the fuel for it to go on the trip we're wanting to take. 200 mi round trip on a v-4 Johnson? I'd probably need a tanker to follow us. ?:^ Q Start a web page, Tim! There are others that are very interesting to follow.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - That's an idea Larry, but I think it would be easier to post the pics on iBoats, seeing they have a section dedicated to rebuilds with lots of pics on how-to and various ideas. It's hard to imagine that somebody woudl do a hull up rebuild on a 16 ft. fiberglass runabout but it is done and done right. There's a 15 yr. old kid that took a clapped out aluminum Jon boat, ripped out the wood and redid the entire thing with many updates and made it litterally better than new. Very impressive to see his pics and how imaculate of care he took in the entire refurbish.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Here's a link to that specific thread I mentioned. I dont' think you have to register to see the pics: http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=286547 and he's only 15 years old, thats is so cool Nice work for just about anyone. *15 years old? *That *is* cool! That's what he said. I'm sure he may have had some help, but I'm taking his word at it. |
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