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Jack[_3_] July 20th 10 02:18 PM

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On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 18:42:30 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
Â*wrote:


Testing of BP well integrity "detected seep a distance from
the
well"
in
the
Gulf of Mexico, Ret. Adm. Thad Allen says.


I am not sure why they don't open the valve now that they
have
a
good
cap and produce the oil to the surface. That will take off
the
pressure and still be safe/clean. After all that was the
point
in
drilling the well in the first place.
I think they are pressing their luck trying to top kill
this
with
the
cap. Something that would have been fine at the production
pressures
may rupture with it sealed and put us back 2 months.


I agree... not an oil engineer, but it seems to make sense. I
think
they
just don't want to have to record the flow rate, so the fine
is
lower.
Too
bad for them. I think Allen should force them to do that.


Open pipe flow rate can be determined by calculation if the
pressure,
pipe diameter, and a few other factors are known, and they all
are
at
this point. Â*That does not tell us how much oil has escaped,
since
except for a few hours the leak has never been in a free flow
mode.


Any measured flow would be through the valves and hoses that
would
be
connected from the cap to the surface ships, which once again
tell
us
nothing about the escaped oil, or the fine to be levied. Â*That
only
tells us how much flow those connections can accept.


The only thing you are correct about is that you are no "oil
engineer"... or any kind professional that requires critical,
scientific thinking.


In that case, mister moron, how come just about everyone who is
an
oil
engineer who doesn't work for BP is saying that's the likely
reason
they
don't want to do that?? Yes, you're a jerk as well as a moron.


You wrote, " I think they just don't want to have to record the
flow
rate...", but that's not the issue at all. Â*If they are to hook
up
the
pipes to the surface, they have to open the well back up, letting
oil
again flow into the gulf for days. Â*That's what BP doesn't want
to
do,
it has nothing to do with recording any "flow rates".


"The apparent disagreement began to sprout Saturday when Allen
said
the cap would eventually be hooked up to a mile-long pipe to pump
the
crude to ships on the surface. But early the next day, BP chief
operating officer Doug Suttles said the cap should stay clamped
shut
to keep in the oil until relief wells are finished."


"The government's plan would ease pressure on the fragile well,
but
would require up to three more days of oil spilling into the
Gulf."


"But the company very much wants to avoid a repeat of the live
underwater video that showed millions of gallons of oil spewing
from
the blown well for weeks."


Oh, and one "expert" that the idiot Olbermann dug up who said the
crap
you stated does not come anywhere close to "everyone"... you do
realize that's not news, it's entertainment for idiots, right?
You
should really stop watching that crap on TV... it's rotting your
brain. Â*Oops, too late.


Here you go your moronic brainiac.


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/...6688083.shtml-


Brilliant! Â*That link does absolutely *nothing* to shore up your
assertion. ~snerk~


You're a Â*moron:


http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/88bde5ee-7...feabdc0.htmlht......


Sure... BP has no interest in obscuring how much oil is actually
flowing.
After all, big corporations are good for America:


Congrats on doing your homework assignment. Unfortunately, you fail..


All of your links are old news and irrelevant except for the
"rawstory" one that features your olbermann "expert". Â*None of them,
except the moonbat, back up your assertion that they are leaving the
cap on now to avoid measuring flow rates.


They (BP and the gov) already have all the data they need to figure
out approximately how much oil has come out. Â*The monetary fines Â*will
be astronomical. Â*Why would you want them to spill millions of gallons
more now when this thing may be permanently capped next week? Â*You
hate our planet?


As long as there is no sudden pressure drop, let it stay capped.


Keep pimping and lying for BP moron.


Tell us why it would be preferrable to have millions of gallons spill
into the Gulf instead of capping it safely and permanently. Â*Do you
think that BO and his czars would not have it under control?


So perhaps there isn't a massive and uncontrollable leak elsewhere in the
system. But, you knew that. You're just being an ass.


And I've shown you to be an uneducated parrot.


"BP continues to work cooperatively with the guidance and approval of
the National Incident Commander and the leadership and direction of
federal government including the Department of Energy, Department of
the Interior, Federal Science Team, Bureau of Ocean Energy,
Management, Regulation and Enforcement, U.S. Coast Guard and
secretaries Ken Salazar and Steven Chu."


Damn, sounds like the feds are up their butts, and have the data they
need. Â*If you have data showing otherwise, lay it out.
Otherwise, STFU... skank.


You are a moron, but keep calling me names if it makes you feel more like a
man.


Does all the name-calling you do make you feel more manly? Â*~snerk~


Gee, jackoff, if you bought a strap-on dildo and wore it, would you feel
more like a man?


I wouldn't know... how does it make you feel?

Harry? July 20th 10 02:24 PM

wonderful
 
In article a6e03d1a-76f5-4fb4-b8e5-
,
says...

On Jul 20, 2:10*am, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Jack" wrote in message

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On Jul 19, 9:18 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Jack" wrote in message


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On Jul 19, 7:12 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Jack" wrote in message


...


On Jul 19, 6:12 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Jack" wrote in message


...


On Jul 19, 3:16 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Jack" wrote in message


...


On Jul 19, 2:25 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
wrote in message


. ..


On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 18:42:30 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


Testing of BP well integrity "detected seep a distance from
the
well"
in
the
Gulf of Mexico, Ret. Adm. Thad Allen says.


I am not sure why they don't open the valve now that they
have
a
good
cap and produce the oil to the surface. That will take off
the
pressure and still be safe/clean. After all that was the
point
in
drilling the well in the first place.
I think they are pressing their luck trying to top kill
this
with
the
cap. Something that would have been fine at the production
pressures
may rupture with it sealed and put us back 2 months.


I agree... not an oil engineer, but it seems to make sense. I
think
they
just don't want to have to record the flow rate, so the fine
is
lower.
Too
bad for them. I think Allen should force them to do that.


Open pipe flow rate can be determined by calculation if the
pressure,
pipe diameter, and a few other factors are known, and they all
are
at
this point. *That does not tell us how much oil has escaped,
since
except for a few hours the leak has never been in a free flow
mode.


Any measured flow would be through the valves and hoses that
would
be
connected from the cap to the surface ships, which once again
tell
us
nothing about the escaped oil, or the fine to be levied. *That
only
tells us how much flow those connections can accept.


The only thing you are correct about is that you are no "oil
engineer"... or any kind professional that requires critical,
scientific thinking.


In that case, mister moron, how come just about everyone who is
an
oil
engineer who doesn't work for BP is saying that's the likely
reason
they
don't want to do that?? Yes, you're a jerk as well as a moron.


You wrote, " I think they just don't want to have to record the
flow
rate...", but that's not the issue at all. *If they are to hook
up
the
pipes to the surface, they have to open the well back up, letting
oil
again flow into the gulf for days. *That's what BP doesn't want
to
do,
it has nothing to do with recording any "flow rates".


"The apparent disagreement began to sprout Saturday when Allen
said
the cap would eventually be hooked up to a mile-long pipe to pump
the
crude to ships on the surface. But early the next day, BP chief
operating officer Doug Suttles said the cap should stay clamped
shut
to keep in the oil until relief wells are finished."


"The government's plan would ease pressure on the fragile well,
but
would require up to three more days of oil spilling into the
Gulf."


"But the company very much wants to avoid a repeat of the live
underwater video that showed millions of gallons of oil spewing
from
the blown well for weeks."


Oh, and one "expert" that the idiot Olbermann dug up who said the
crap
you stated does not come anywhere close to "everyone"... you do
realize that's not news, it's entertainment for idiots, right?
You
should really stop watching that crap on TV... it's rotting your
brain. *Oops, too late.


Here you go your moronic brainiac.


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/...6688083.shtml-

Brilliant! *That link does absolutely *nothing* to shore up your
assertion. ~snerk~


You're a *moron:


http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/88bde5ee-7...feabdc0.htmlht......


Sure... BP has no interest in obscuring how much oil is actually
flowing.
After all, big corporations are good for America:


Congrats on doing your homework assignment. Unfortunately, you fail.


All of your links are old news and irrelevant except for the
"rawstory" one that features your olbermann "expert". *None of them,
except the moonbat, back up your assertion that they are leaving the
cap on now to avoid measuring flow rates.


They (BP and the gov) already have all the data they need to figure
out approximately how much oil has come out. *The monetary fines *will
be astronomical. *Why would you want them to spill millions of gallons
more now when this thing may be permanently capped next week? *You
hate our planet?


As long as there is no sudden pressure drop, let it stay capped.


Keep pimping and lying for BP moron.


Tell us why it would be preferrable to have millions of gallons spill
into the Gulf instead of capping it safely and permanently. *Do you
think that BO and his czars would not have it under control?


So perhaps there isn't a massive and uncontrollable leak elsewhere in the
system. But, you knew that. You're just being an ass.


And I've shown you to be an uneducated parrot.



"BP continues to work cooperatively with the guidance and approval of
the National Incident Commander and the leadership and direction of
federal government including the Department of Energy, Department of
the Interior, Federal Science Team, Bureau of Ocean Energy,
Management, Regulation and Enforcement, U.S. Coast Guard and
secretaries Ken Salazar and Steven Chu."


Damn, sounds like the feds are up their butts, and have the data they
need. *If you have data showing otherwise, lay it out.
Otherwise, STFU... skank.


You are a moron, but keep calling me names if it makes you feel more like a
man.


Does all the name-calling you do make you feel more manly? ~snerk~


It certainly makes ME feel more manly. I also use name calling and
insulting when I'm caught in a lie.

nom=de=plume[_2_] July 20th 10 06:17 PM

wonderful
 

"Jack" wrote in message
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On Jul 20, 2:10 am, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Jack" wrote in message

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On Jul 19, 9:18 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Jack" wrote in message


...


On Jul 19, 7:12 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Jack" wrote in message


...


On Jul 19, 6:12 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Jack" wrote in message


...


On Jul 19, 3:16 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Jack" wrote in message


...


On Jul 19, 2:25 pm, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:
wrote in message


. ..


On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 18:42:30 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


Testing of BP well integrity "detected seep a distance
from
the
well"
in
the
Gulf of Mexico, Ret. Adm. Thad Allen says.


I am not sure why they don't open the valve now that
they
have
a
good
cap and produce the oil to the surface. That will take
off
the
pressure and still be safe/clean. After all that was the
point
in
drilling the well in the first place.
I think they are pressing their luck trying to top kill
this
with
the
cap. Something that would have been fine at the
production
pressures
may rupture with it sealed and put us back 2 months.


I agree... not an oil engineer, but it seems to make
sense. I
think
they
just don't want to have to record the flow rate, so the
fine
is
lower.
Too
bad for them. I think Allen should force them to do that.


Open pipe flow rate can be determined by calculation if the
pressure,
pipe diameter, and a few other factors are known, and they
all
are
at
this point. That does not tell us how much oil has
escaped,
since
except for a few hours the leak has never been in a free
flow
mode.


Any measured flow would be through the valves and hoses
that
would
be
connected from the cap to the surface ships, which once
again
tell
us
nothing about the escaped oil, or the fine to be levied.
That
only
tells us how much flow those connections can accept.


The only thing you are correct about is that you are no
"oil
engineer"... or any kind professional that requires
critical,
scientific thinking.


In that case, mister moron, how come just about everyone who
is
an
oil
engineer who doesn't work for BP is saying that's the likely
reason
they
don't want to do that?? Yes, you're a jerk as well as a
moron.


You wrote, " I think they just don't want to have to record
the
flow
rate...", but that's not the issue at all. If they are to
hook
up
the
pipes to the surface, they have to open the well back up,
letting
oil
again flow into the gulf for days. That's what BP doesn't
want
to
do,
it has nothing to do with recording any "flow rates".


"The apparent disagreement began to sprout Saturday when Allen
said
the cap would eventually be hooked up to a mile-long pipe to
pump
the
crude to ships on the surface. But early the next day, BP
chief
operating officer Doug Suttles said the cap should stay
clamped
shut
to keep in the oil until relief wells are finished."


"The government's plan would ease pressure on the fragile
well,
but
would require up to three more days of oil spilling into the
Gulf."


"But the company very much wants to avoid a repeat of the live
underwater video that showed millions of gallons of oil
spewing
from
the blown well for weeks."


Oh, and one "expert" that the idiot Olbermann dug up who said
the
crap
you stated does not come anywhere close to "everyone"... you
do
realize that's not news, it's entertainment for idiots, right?
You
should really stop watching that crap on TV... it's rotting
your
brain. Oops, too late.


Here you go your moronic brainiac.


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/...6688083.shtml-


Brilliant! That link does absolutely *nothing* to shore up your
assertion. ~snerk~


You're a moron:


http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/88bde5ee-7...feabdc0.htmlht......


Sure... BP has no interest in obscuring how much oil is actually
flowing.
After all, big corporations are good for America:


Congrats on doing your homework assignment. Unfortunately, you fail.


All of your links are old news and irrelevant except for the
"rawstory" one that features your olbermann "expert". None of them,
except the moonbat, back up your assertion that they are leaving the
cap on now to avoid measuring flow rates.


They (BP and the gov) already have all the data they need to figure
out approximately how much oil has come out. The monetary fines
will
be astronomical. Why would you want them to spill millions of
gallons
more now when this thing may be permanently capped next week? You
hate our planet?


As long as there is no sudden pressure drop, let it stay capped.


Keep pimping and lying for BP moron.


Tell us why it would be preferrable to have millions of gallons spill
into the Gulf instead of capping it safely and permanently. Do you
think that BO and his czars would not have it under control?


So perhaps there isn't a massive and uncontrollable leak elsewhere in the
system. But, you knew that. You're just being an ass.


And I've shown you to be an uneducated parrot.



"BP continues to work cooperatively with the guidance and approval of
the National Incident Commander and the leadership and direction of
federal government including the Department of Energy, Department of
the Interior, Federal Science Team, Bureau of Ocean Energy,
Management, Regulation and Enforcement, U.S. Coast Guard and
secretaries Ken Salazar and Steven Chu."


Damn, sounds like the feds are up their butts, and have the data they
need. If you have data showing otherwise, lay it out.
Otherwise, STFU... skank.


You are a moron, but keep calling me names if it makes you feel more like
a
man.


Does all the name-calling you do make you feel more manly? ~snerk~


You're the one who's lying and pimping for BP.

Check this out if you dare... they lied and they're continuing to lie.

http://www.americablog.com/2010/07/b...f-command.html



nom=de=plume[_2_] July 20th 10 06:18 PM

wonderful
 

"Jack" wrote in message
...
On Jul 20, 9:05 am, Harry  wrote:
On 7/20/10 9:01 AM, Jack wrote:





On Jul 20, 2:10 am, wrote:
wrote in message


...


On Jul 19, 9:18 pm, wrote:
wrote in message


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On Jul 19, 7:12 pm, wrote:
wrote in message


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On Jul 19, 6:12 pm, wrote:
wrote in message


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On Jul 19, 2:25 pm,
wrote:
wrote in message


news:4ct7469pgiksefoqo8er4e1bop164ck9p ...


On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 18:42:30 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


Testing of BP well integrity "detected seep a distance
from
the
well"
in
the
Gulf of Mexico, Ret. Adm. Thad Allen says.


I am not sure why they don't open the valve now that they
have
a
good
cap and produce the oil to the surface. That will take off
the
pressure and still be safe/clean. After all that was the
point
in
drilling the well in the first place.
I think they are pressing their luck trying to top kill
this
with
the
cap. Something that would have been fine at the production
pressures
may rupture with it sealed and put us back 2 months.


I agree... not an oil engineer, but it seems to make sense.
I
think
they
just don't want to have to record the flow rate, so the fine
is
lower.
Too
bad for them. I think Allen should force them to do that.


Open pipe flow rate can be determined by calculation if the
pressure,
pipe diameter, and a few other factors are known, and they
all
are
at
this point. That does not tell us how much oil has escaped,
since
except for a few hours the leak has never been in a free flow
mode.


Any measured flow would be through the valves and hoses that
would
be
connected from the cap to the surface ships, which once again
tell
us
nothing about the escaped oil, or the fine to be levied.
That
only
tells us how much flow those connections can accept.


The only thing you are correct about is that you are no "oil
engineer"... or any kind professional that requires critical,
scientific thinking.


In that case, mister moron, how come just about everyone who
is
an
oil
engineer who doesn't work for BP is saying that's the likely
reason
they
don't want to do that?? Yes, you're a jerk as well as a moron.


You wrote, " I think they just don't want to have to record the
flow
rate...", but that's not the issue at all. If they are to hook
up
the
pipes to the surface, they have to open the well back up,
letting
oil
again flow into the gulf for days. That's what BP doesn't want
to
do,
it has nothing to do with recording any "flow rates".


"The apparent disagreement began to sprout Saturday when Allen
said
the cap would eventually be hooked up to a mile-long pipe to
pump
the
crude to ships on the surface. But early the next day, BP chief
operating officer Doug Suttles said the cap should stay clamped
shut
to keep in the oil until relief wells are finished."


"The government's plan would ease pressure on the fragile well,
but
would require up to three more days of oil spilling into the
Gulf."


"But the company very much wants to avoid a repeat of the live
underwater video that showed millions of gallons of oil spewing
from
the blown well for weeks."


Oh, and one "expert" that the idiot Olbermann dug up who said
the
crap
you stated does not come anywhere close to "everyone"... you do
realize that's not news, it's entertainment for idiots, right?
You
should really stop watching that crap on TV... it's rotting
your
brain. Oops, too late.


Here you go your moronic brainiac.


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/...6688083.shtml-


Brilliant! That link does absolutely *nothing* to shore up your
assertion. ~snerk~


You're a moron:


http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/88bde5ee-7...feabdc0.htmlht......


Sure... BP has no interest in obscuring how much oil is actually
flowing.
After all, big corporations are good for America:


Congrats on doing your homework assignment. Unfortunately, you
fail.


All of your links are old news and irrelevant except for the
"rawstory" one that features your olbermann "expert". None of
them,
except the moonbat, back up your assertion that they are leaving
the
cap on now to avoid measuring flow rates.


They (BP and the gov) already have all the data they need to figure
out approximately how much oil has come out. The monetary fines
will
be astronomical. Why would you want them to spill millions of
gallons
more now when this thing may be permanently capped next week? You
hate our planet?


As long as there is no sudden pressure drop, let it stay capped.


Keep pimping and lying for BP moron.


Tell us why it would be preferrable to have millions of gallons spill
into the Gulf instead of capping it safely and permanently. Do you
think that BO and his czars would not have it under control?


So perhaps there isn't a massive and uncontrollable leak elsewhere in
the
system. But, you knew that. You're just being an ass.


And I've shown you to be an uneducated parrot.


"BP continues to work cooperatively with the guidance and approval of
the National Incident Commander and the leadership and direction of
federal government including the Department of Energy, Department of
the Interior, Federal Science Team, Bureau of Ocean Energy,
Management, Regulation and Enforcement, U.S. Coast Guard and
secretaries Ken Salazar and Steven Chu."


Damn, sounds like the feds are up their butts, and have the data they
need. If you have data showing otherwise, lay it out.
Otherwise, STFU... skank.


You are a moron, but keep calling me names if it makes you feel more
like a
man.


Does all the name-calling you do make you feel more manly? ~snerk~


Gee, jackoff, if you bought a strap-on dildo and wore it, would you feel
more like a man?


I wouldn't know... how does it make you feel?


Liar. You know how it feels, since you're the one who's just gotta prove
he's got something bigger between his legs than a noodle.



Canuck57[_9_] July 21st 10 12:59 AM

wonderful
 
On 19/07/2010 12:52 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 18:42:30 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Testing of BP well integrity "detected seep a distance from the well" in the
Gulf of Mexico, Ret. Adm. Thad Allen says.


I am not sure why they don't open the valve now that they have a good
cap and produce the oil to the surface. That will take off the
pressure and still be safe/clean. After all that was the point in
drilling the well in the first place.
I think they are pressing their luck trying to top kill this with the
cap. Something that would have been fine at the production pressures
may rupture with it sealed and put us back 2 months.


Probably because everything has to go through government. And the only
way to do that is if it does not make any sense.

Why not get that oil, will go a long way to pay for cleanup. $77 a
barrel...why waste it?

--

Government has liberals, idealists and lawyers, but where is the common
sense?

Canuck57[_9_] July 21st 10 01:01 AM

wonderful
 
On 19/07/2010 3:43 PM, Harry  wrote:
On 7/19/10 5:41 PM, Jack wrote:
On Jul 19, 3:16 pm, wrote:
wrote in message

...




On Jul 19, 2:25 pm, wrote:
wrote in message

...

On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 18:42:30 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Testing of BP well integrity "detected seep a distance from the
well"
in
the
Gulf of Mexico, Ret. Adm. Thad Allen says.

I am not sure why they don't open the valve now that they have a good
cap and produce the oil to the surface. That will take off the
pressure and still be safe/clean. After all that was the point in
drilling the well in the first place.
I think they are pressing their luck trying to top kill this with the
cap. Something that would have been fine at the production pressures
may rupture with it sealed and put us back 2 months.

I agree... not an oil engineer, but it seems to make sense. I think
they
just don't want to have to record the flow rate, so the fine is lower.
Too
bad for them. I think Allen should force them to do that.

Open pipe flow rate can be determined by calculation if the pressure,
pipe diameter, and a few other factors are known, and they all are at
this point. That does not tell us how much oil has escaped, since
except for a few hours the leak has never been in a free flow mode.

Any measured flow would be through the valves and hoses that would be
connected from the cap to the surface ships, which once again tell us
nothing about the escaped oil, or the fine to be levied. That only
tells us how much flow those connections can accept.

The only thing you are correct about is that you are no "oil
engineer"... or any kind professional that requires critical,
scientific thinking.

In that case, mister moron, how come just about everyone who is an oil
engineer who doesn't work for BP is saying that's the likely reason they
don't want to do that?? Yes, you're a jerk as well as a moron.


You wrote, " I think they just don't want to have to record the flow
rate...", but that's not the issue at all. If they are to hook up the
pipes to the surface, they have to open the well back up, letting oil
again flow into the gulf for days. That's what BP doesn't want to do,
it has nothing to do with recording any "flow rates".

"The apparent disagreement began to sprout Saturday when Allen said
the cap would eventually be hooked up to a mile-long pipe to pump the
crude to ships on the surface. But early the next day, BP chief
operating officer Doug Suttles said the cap should stay clamped shut
to keep in the oil until relief wells are finished."

"The government's plan would ease pressure on the fragile well, but
would require up to three more days of oil spilling into the Gulf."

"But the company very much wants to avoid a repeat of the live
underwater video that showed millions of gallons of oil spewing from
the blown well for weeks."

Oh, and one "expert" that the idiot Olbermann dug up who said the crap
you stated does not come anywhere close to "everyone"... you do
realize that's not news, it's entertainment for idiots, right? You
should really stop watching that crap on TV... it's rotting your
brain. Oops, too late.



Jackoff *believes* BP's PR...


You believe Obama';s big mouth?

LMAO.

--

Government has liberals, idealists and lawyers, but where is the common
sense?

Larry[_25_] July 21st 10 01:55 AM

wonderful
 
Jack wrote:
On Jul 20, 2:10 am, wrote:

wrote in message

...




On Jul 19, 9:18 pm, wrote:

wrote in message


....


On Jul 19, 7:12 pm, wrote:

wrote in message


...


On Jul 19, 6:12 pm, wrote:

wrote in message


...


On Jul 19, 3:16 pm, wrote:

wrote in message


...


On Jul 19, 2:25 pm, wrote:

wrote in message


...


On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 18:42:30 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


Testing of BP well integrity "detected seep a distance from
the
well"
in
the
Gulf of Mexico, Ret. Adm. Thad Allen says.


I am not sure why they don't open the valve now that they
have
a
good
cap and produce the oil to the surface. That will take off
the
pressure and still be safe/clean. After all that was the
point
in
drilling the well in the first place.
I think they are pressing their luck trying to top kill
this
with
the
cap. Something that would have been fine at the production
pressures
may rupture with it sealed and put us back 2 months.


I agree... not an oil engineer, but it seems to make sense.. I
think
they
just don't want to have to record the flow rate, so the fine
is
lower.
Too
bad for them. I think Allen should force them to do that.


Open pipe flow rate can be determined by calculation if the
pressure,
pipe diameter, and a few other factors are known, and they all
are
at
this point. That does not tell us how much oil has escaped,
since
except for a few hours the leak has never been in a free flow
mode.


Any measured flow would be through the valves and hoses that
would
be
connected from the cap to the surface ships, which once again
tell
us
nothing about the escaped oil, or the fine to be levied. That
only
tells us how much flow those connections can accept.


The only thing you are correct about is that you are no "oil
engineer"... or any kind professional that requires critical,
scientific thinking.


In that case, mister moron, how come just about everyone who is
an
oil
engineer who doesn't work for BP is saying that's the likely
reason
they
don't want to do that?? Yes, you're a jerk as well as a moron..


You wrote, " I think they just don't want to have to record the
flow
rate...", but that's not the issue at all. If they are to hook
up
the
pipes to the surface, they have to open the well back up, letting
oil
again flow into the gulf for days. That's what BP doesn't want
to
do,
it has nothing to do with recording any "flow rates".


"The apparent disagreement began to sprout Saturday when Allen
said
the cap would eventually be hooked up to a mile-long pipe to pump
the
crude to ships on the surface. But early the next day, BP chief
operating officer Doug Suttles said the cap should stay clamped
shut
to keep in the oil until relief wells are finished."


"The government's plan would ease pressure on the fragile well,
but
would require up to three more days of oil spilling into the
Gulf."


"But the company very much wants to avoid a repeat of the live
underwater video that showed millions of gallons of oil spewing
from
the blown well for weeks."


Oh, and one "expert" that the idiot Olbermann dug up who said the
crap
you stated does not come anywhere close to "everyone"... you do
realize that's not news, it's entertainment for idiots, right?
You
should really stop watching that crap on TV... it's rotting your
brain. Oops, too late.


Here you go your moronic brainiac.


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/...6688083.shtml-


Brilliant! That link does absolutely *nothing* to shore up your
assertion. ~snerk~


You're a moron:


http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/88bde5ee-7...feabdc0.htmlht......


Sure... BP has no interest in obscuring how much oil is actually
flowing.
After all, big corporations are good for America:


Congrats on doing your homework assignment. Unfortunately, you fail.


All of your links are old news and irrelevant except for the
"rawstory" one that features your olbermann "expert". None of them,
except the moonbat, back up your assertion that they are leaving the
cap on now to avoid measuring flow rates.


They (BP and the gov) already have all the data they need to figure
out approximately how much oil has come out. The monetary fines will
be astronomical. Why would you want them to spill millions of gallons
more now when this thing may be permanently capped next week? You
hate our planet?


As long as there is no sudden pressure drop, let it stay capped.


Keep pimping and lying for BP moron.


Tell us why it would be preferrable to have millions of gallons spill
into the Gulf instead of capping it safely and permanently. Do you
think that BO and his czars would not have it under control?

So perhaps there isn't a massive and uncontrollable leak elsewhere in the
system. But, you knew that. You're just being an ass.

And I've shown you to be an uneducated parrot.




"BP continues to work cooperatively with the guidance and approval of
the National Incident Commander and the leadership and direction of
federal government including the Department of Energy, Department of
the Interior, Federal Science Team, Bureau of Ocean Energy,
Management, Regulation and Enforcement, U.S. Coast Guard and
secretaries Ken Salazar and Steven Chu."


Damn, sounds like the feds are up their butts, and have the data they
need. If you have data showing otherwise, lay it out.
Otherwise, STFU... skank.

You are a moron, but keep calling me names if it makes you feel more like a
man.

Does all the name-calling you do make you feel more manly? ~snerk~

The jury is out on that posters gender. He/she is best ignored.

bpuharic July 21st 10 02:33 AM

wonderful
 
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:59:36 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 19/07/2010 12:52 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 18:42:30 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Testing of BP well integrity "detected seep a distance from the well" in the
Gulf of Mexico, Ret. Adm. Thad Allen says.


I am not sure why they don't open the valve now that they have a good
cap and produce the oil to the surface. That will take off the
pressure and still be safe/clean. After all that was the point in
drilling the well in the first place.
I think they are pressing their luck trying to top kill this with the
cap. Something that would have been fine at the production pressures
may rupture with it sealed and put us back 2 months.


Probably because everything has to go through government. And the only
way to do that is if it does not make any sense.


the right wing model

1. govt doesnt do anything and lets the company handle it...

right wingers scream that the govt has been bought by the oil company
and has abandoned people

2. govt steps in

the right wing screams that the poor oil company is a victim of
socialism and it should be able to do what it wants (as, indeed,
canuck has said several times)

damned if you do...

nom=de=plume[_2_] July 21st 10 02:50 AM

wonderful
 

"Canuck57" wrote in message
...
On 19/07/2010 3:43 PM, Harry  wrote:
On 7/19/10 5:41 PM, Jack wrote:
On Jul 19, 3:16 pm, wrote:
wrote in message

...




On Jul 19, 2:25 pm, wrote:
wrote in message

...

On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 18:42:30 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Testing of BP well integrity "detected seep a distance from the
well"
in
the
Gulf of Mexico, Ret. Adm. Thad Allen says.

I am not sure why they don't open the valve now that they have a
good
cap and produce the oil to the surface. That will take off the
pressure and still be safe/clean. After all that was the point in
drilling the well in the first place.
I think they are pressing their luck trying to top kill this with
the
cap. Something that would have been fine at the production pressures
may rupture with it sealed and put us back 2 months.

I agree... not an oil engineer, but it seems to make sense. I think
they
just don't want to have to record the flow rate, so the fine is
lower.
Too
bad for them. I think Allen should force them to do that.

Open pipe flow rate can be determined by calculation if the pressure,
pipe diameter, and a few other factors are known, and they all are at
this point. That does not tell us how much oil has escaped, since
except for a few hours the leak has never been in a free flow mode.

Any measured flow would be through the valves and hoses that would be
connected from the cap to the surface ships, which once again tell us
nothing about the escaped oil, or the fine to be levied. That only
tells us how much flow those connections can accept.

The only thing you are correct about is that you are no "oil
engineer"... or any kind professional that requires critical,
scientific thinking.

In that case, mister moron, how come just about everyone who is an oil
engineer who doesn't work for BP is saying that's the likely reason
they
don't want to do that?? Yes, you're a jerk as well as a moron.

You wrote, " I think they just don't want to have to record the flow
rate...", but that's not the issue at all. If they are to hook up the
pipes to the surface, they have to open the well back up, letting oil
again flow into the gulf for days. That's what BP doesn't want to do,
it has nothing to do with recording any "flow rates".

"The apparent disagreement began to sprout Saturday when Allen said
the cap would eventually be hooked up to a mile-long pipe to pump the
crude to ships on the surface. But early the next day, BP chief
operating officer Doug Suttles said the cap should stay clamped shut
to keep in the oil until relief wells are finished."

"The government's plan would ease pressure on the fragile well, but
would require up to three more days of oil spilling into the Gulf."

"But the company very much wants to avoid a repeat of the live
underwater video that showed millions of gallons of oil spewing from
the blown well for weeks."

Oh, and one "expert" that the idiot Olbermann dug up who said the crap
you stated does not come anywhere close to "everyone"... you do
realize that's not news, it's entertainment for idiots, right? You
should really stop watching that crap on TV... it's rotting your
brain. Oops, too late.



Jackoff *believes* BP's PR...


You believe Obama';s big mouth?

LMAO.


I know you're a moron. There's really no comparison between you and our
president. He's actually an adult.




nom=de=plume[_2_] July 21st 10 02:51 AM

wonderful
 

"Larry" wrote in message
...
Jack wrote:
On Jul 20, 2:10 am, wrote:

wrote in message

...




On Jul 19, 9:18 pm, wrote:

wrote in message


....


On Jul 19, 7:12 pm, wrote:

wrote in message


...


On Jul 19, 6:12 pm, wrote:

wrote in message


...


On Jul 19, 3:16 pm, wrote:

wrote in message


...


On Jul 19, 2:25 pm, wrote:

wrote in message


...


On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 18:42:30 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


Testing of BP well integrity "detected seep a distance from
the
well"
in
the
Gulf of Mexico, Ret. Adm. Thad Allen says.


I am not sure why they don't open the valve now that they
have
a
good
cap and produce the oil to the surface. That will take off
the
pressure and still be safe/clean. After all that was the
point
in
drilling the well in the first place.
I think they are pressing their luck trying to top kill
this
with
the
cap. Something that would have been fine at the production
pressures
may rupture with it sealed and put us back 2 months.


I agree... not an oil engineer, but it seems to make sense.. I
think
they
just don't want to have to record the flow rate, so the fine
is
lower.
Too
bad for them. I think Allen should force them to do that.


Open pipe flow rate can be determined by calculation if the
pressure,
pipe diameter, and a few other factors are known, and they all
are
at
this point. That does not tell us how much oil has escaped,
since
except for a few hours the leak has never been in a free flow
mode.


Any measured flow would be through the valves and hoses that
would
be
connected from the cap to the surface ships, which once again
tell
us
nothing about the escaped oil, or the fine to be levied. That
only
tells us how much flow those connections can accept.


The only thing you are correct about is that you are no "oil
engineer"... or any kind professional that requires critical,
scientific thinking.


In that case, mister moron, how come just about everyone who is
an
oil
engineer who doesn't work for BP is saying that's the likely
reason
they
don't want to do that?? Yes, you're a jerk as well as a moron..


You wrote, " I think they just don't want to have to record the
flow
rate...", but that's not the issue at all. If they are to hook
up
the
pipes to the surface, they have to open the well back up, letting
oil
again flow into the gulf for days. That's what BP doesn't want
to
do,
it has nothing to do with recording any "flow rates".


"The apparent disagreement began to sprout Saturday when Allen
said
the cap would eventually be hooked up to a mile-long pipe to pump
the
crude to ships on the surface. But early the next day, BP chief
operating officer Doug Suttles said the cap should stay clamped
shut
to keep in the oil until relief wells are finished."


"The government's plan would ease pressure on the fragile well,
but
would require up to three more days of oil spilling into the
Gulf."


"But the company very much wants to avoid a repeat of the live
underwater video that showed millions of gallons of oil spewing
from
the blown well for weeks."


Oh, and one "expert" that the idiot Olbermann dug up who said the
crap
you stated does not come anywhere close to "everyone"... you do
realize that's not news, it's entertainment for idiots, right?
You
should really stop watching that crap on TV... it's rotting your
brain. Oops, too late.


Here you go your moronic brainiac.


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/...6688083.shtml-


Brilliant! That link does absolutely *nothing* to shore up your
assertion. ~snerk~


You're a moron:


http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/88bde5ee-7...feabdc0.htmlht......


Sure... BP has no interest in obscuring how much oil is actually
flowing.
After all, big corporations are good for America:


Congrats on doing your homework assignment. Unfortunately, you fail.


All of your links are old news and irrelevant except for the
"rawstory" one that features your olbermann "expert". None of them,
except the moonbat, back up your assertion that they are leaving the
cap on now to avoid measuring flow rates.


They (BP and the gov) already have all the data they need to figure
out approximately how much oil has come out. The monetary fines
will
be astronomical. Why would you want them to spill millions of
gallons
more now when this thing may be permanently capped next week? You
hate our planet?


As long as there is no sudden pressure drop, let it stay capped.


Keep pimping and lying for BP moron.


Tell us why it would be preferrable to have millions of gallons spill
into the Gulf instead of capping it safely and permanently. Do you
think that BO and his czars would not have it under control?

So perhaps there isn't a massive and uncontrollable leak elsewhere in
the
system. But, you knew that. You're just being an ass.

And I've shown you to be an uneducated parrot.




"BP continues to work cooperatively with the guidance and approval of
the National Incident Commander and the leadership and direction of
federal government including the Department of Energy, Department of
the Interior, Federal Science Team, Bureau of Ocean Energy,
Management, Regulation and Enforcement, U.S. Coast Guard and
secretaries Ken Salazar and Steven Chu."


Damn, sounds like the feds are up their butts, and have the data they
need. If you have data showing otherwise, lay it out.
Otherwise, STFU... skank.

You are a moron, but keep calling me names if it makes you feel more
like a
man.

Does all the name-calling you do make you feel more manly? ~snerk~

The jury is out on that posters gender. He/she is best ignored.


Yet you just can't... you're a LOSER!




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