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wrote in message ... On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:40:56 -0400, bpuharic wrote: \\\\\\\ 20 Jul 2010 06:52:21 -0400, wrote: The SCOTUS also says the cop can make everyone get out, show ID, get searched for weapons, search the car for weapons and run a dog through it. Somehow, you immigration status seems pretty minimal at this point. he can demand ID. the passengers dont have to show him ****. That is not true. MARYLAND v. WILSON says they can all be rousted and the passenger compartment of the car searched "for weapons". While that is going on they can have a dog search the car too. ILLINOIS v. CABALLES. At that point the cop will "ask" everyone for ID. Have you ever said no to a cop on the side of the road? Usually you end up in cuffs. You can macho this as much as you like about what you would do but I bet you haven't actually done any of it. I've said no to cops on the side of the road before... Question: Have you been drinking? Answer: No. Question: Are you single? Answer: Ummm... lol |
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On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:46:50 -0400, bpuharic wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:06:59 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 10:13:53 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: In most states you have to show proof of insurance papers also. Or you get to walk to the nearest bus stop as the car is towed. With a ticket issued to you. More than just showing your license to the cop. And the license will show your citizenship. The SCOTUS also says the cop can make everyone get out, show ID, get searched for weapons, search the car for weapons and run a dog through it. Somehow, you immigration status seems pretty minimal at this point. So, why is there a need for a new AZ law? It doesn't do anything for border security. Why do you care? You don't live in Arizona. i lived there. never saw a problem with the illegals. You didn't see a problem with your finances either. Maybe your shades are a couple shades too dark? -- John H |
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wrote in message ... On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:47:21 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: That is not true. MARYLAND v. WILSON says they can all be rousted and the passenger compartment of the car searched "for weapons". While that is going on they can have a dog search the car too. ILLINOIS v. CABALLES. At that point the cop will "ask" everyone for ID. Have you ever said no to a cop on the side of the road? Usually you end up in cuffs. You can macho this as much as you like about what you would do but I bet you haven't actually done any of it. I've said no to cops on the side of the road before... Question: Have you been drinking? Answer: No. Question: Are you single? Answer: Ummm... lol The first one is the right answer to a question, the second one can go either way. We have had cops harassing women here too. It is less likely they get away with it these days but my nieces have some stories where it didn't really work out. The real question is whether you can say no when a cop "asks" you something like "can I look in your trunk" or "can I see your ID". A "no" is usually seen as reasonable suspicion that you are doing something illegal. If you weren't you just have a long day and they eventually send you on your way. If you are doing ANYTHING wrong, you get hooked up and taken in. You can say no, with the caveat that if he looks anyway, he better have actual probably cause. The "can I see your ID" goes back to asking for the DL. Driving is a privilege not a right, so he's within bounds to ask for it. If you're walking down the street, there is a higher standard of probably cause for asking for ID. That's the problem with the AZ law (well, one of the problems). |
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On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 20:17:29 -0400, John H
wrote: On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:46:50 -0400, bpuharic wrote: i lived there. never saw a problem with the illegals. You didn't see a problem with your finances either. Maybe your shades are a couple shades too dark? no. it just means the right invents problems where there are none, and hides those that exist. being right wing is a learning disability |
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On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:44:48 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote: Jim - "Can I see you license, m'aam. Or perhaps a memorized number?" You can't remember yours? I can even recite my mastercard number... 5291.. oh wait. lol actually i know my DL number as well.. |
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On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:47:04 -0400, Harry ?
wrote: Flajim can only count to 20, using all his digits. Most guys can count to 21, but flajim is missing *that* digit. that's OK. you can count you IQ...to 12...using all the fingers on both of your hands. |
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On 20/07/2010 8:01 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:47:04 -0400, Harry wrote: Flajim can only count to 20, using all his digits. Most guys can count to 21, but flajim is missing *that* digit. that's OK. you can count you IQ...to 12...using all the fingers on both of your hands. Why, do you only get to 6 like a bird? -- Government has liberals, idealists and lawyers, but where is the common sense? |
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wrote in message ... On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:49:09 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message . .. On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:47:21 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: That is not true. MARYLAND v. WILSON says they can all be rousted and the passenger compartment of the car searched "for weapons". While that is going on they can have a dog search the car too. ILLINOIS v. CABALLES. At that point the cop will "ask" everyone for ID. Have you ever said no to a cop on the side of the road? Usually you end up in cuffs. You can macho this as much as you like about what you would do but I bet you haven't actually done any of it. I've said no to cops on the side of the road before... Question: Have you been drinking? Answer: No. Question: Are you single? Answer: Ummm... lol The first one is the right answer to a question, the second one can go either way. We have had cops harassing women here too. It is less likely they get away with it these days but my nieces have some stories where it didn't really work out. The real question is whether you can say no when a cop "asks" you something like "can I look in your trunk" or "can I see your ID". A "no" is usually seen as reasonable suspicion that you are doing something illegal. If you weren't you just have a long day and they eventually send you on your way. If you are doing ANYTHING wrong, you get hooked up and taken in. You can say no, with the caveat that if he looks anyway, he better have actual probably cause. The "can I see your ID" goes back to asking for the DL. Driving is a privilege not a right, so he's within bounds to ask for it. If you're walking down the street, there is a higher standard of probably cause for asking for ID. That's the problem with the AZ law (well, one of the problems). You ignore the basic problem. It will always be your word against the cop's that you said no. You will lose that one. If your word was equal to the cop, there wouldn't be any traffic tickets. They are all your word against his. Well sure, but in our system you're innocent until proven guilty. Judges _tend_ to believe the police over regular citizens, but he would still have to produce something that caused him to get in your face.. Not that it's much of an example, but I've seen people win in traffic court against the testimony of an expert (police) witness. |
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wrote in message ... On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 22:01:57 -0400, bpuharic wrote: On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:35:26 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:40:56 -0400, bpuharic wrote: \\\\\\\ 20 Jul 2010 06:52:21 -0400, wrote: The SCOTUS also says the cop can make everyone get out, show ID, get searched for weapons, search the car for weapons and run a dog through it. Somehow, you immigration status seems pretty minimal at this point. he can demand ID. the passengers dont have to show him ****. That is not true. MARYLAND v. WILSON says they can all be rousted and the passenger compartment of the car searched "for weapons". While that is going on they can have a dog search the car too. ILLINOIS v. CABALLES. At that point the cop will "ask" everyone for ID. Have you ever said no to a cop on the side of the road? yeah. i told a NJSP trooper to go get ****ed after he ****ed me off How long did it take for the swelling to go down? Or was he back in his car driving away when you said it? He was back in his car, driving away, with bpuharic in the back. :) |
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In article ,
says... On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:46:50 -0400, bpuharic wrote: On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:06:59 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 10:13:53 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: In most states you have to show proof of insurance papers also. Or you get to walk to the nearest bus stop as the car is towed. With a ticket issued to you. More than just showing your license to the cop. And the license will show your citizenship. The SCOTUS also says the cop can make everyone get out, show ID, get searched for weapons, search the car for weapons and run a dog through it. Somehow, you immigration status seems pretty minimal at this point. So, why is there a need for a new AZ law? It doesn't do anything for border security. Why do you care? You don't live in Arizona. i lived there. never saw a problem with the illegals. You didn't see a problem with your finances either. Maybe your shades are a couple shades too dark? I was thinking the same thing. A brief statement from Bob here can start a whole new line of conversation, but chances are, it's just another German Screwdriver. If he really did live, there, and really did see any problem, do you really trust he would admit it here? It just wouldn't suit his agenda. Now if you are discussing hypothetical, then, and only maybe... -- Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese! |
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In article , says...
nom=de=plume wrote: "bpuharic" wrote in message ... \\\\\\\ 20 Jul 2010 06:52:21 -0400, wrote: The SCOTUS also says the cop can make everyone get out, show ID, get searched for weapons, search the car for weapons and run a dog through it. Somehow, you immigration status seems pretty minimal at this point. he can demand ID. the passengers dont have to show him ****. Most police (at least out here) will accept your DL number if you don't have your ID. It's happened to me once or twice when I left the DL at home. Neat trick remembering your DL number. Or a crock. Jim - "Can I see you license, m'aam. Or perhaps a memorized number?" That's funny. I have a thing with remembering numbers so I know mine, my wifes, our ss numbers for the family and can recite all the phone numbers of my parents friends and neighbors when I was a small child, etc. etc. etc... -- Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese! |
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In article ,
says... On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:40:56 -0400, bpuharic wrote: \\\\\\\ 20 Jul 2010 06:52:21 -0400, wrote: The SCOTUS also says the cop can make everyone get out, show ID, get searched for weapons, search the car for weapons and run a dog through it. Somehow, you immigration status seems pretty minimal at this point. he can demand ID. the passengers dont have to show him ****. That is not true. MARYLAND v. WILSON says they can all be rousted and the passenger compartment of the car searched "for weapons". While that is going on they can have a dog search the car too. ILLINOIS v. CABALLES. At that point the cop will "ask" everyone for ID. Have you ever said no to a cop on the side of the road? Usually you end up in cuffs. You can macho this as much as you like about what you would do but I bet you haven't actually done any of it. Man, that guy is so full of doo. Everyone knows if a Cop asks for your ID you have to give it to him. Now one of the states out here on the east coast just had a court hold up that the cops have to speak the language of the person they pull over... This is such an opportunity for fraud, I used to see my FIL pretend he didn't speak English when it was convenient, do you think this will be any different? -- Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese! |
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On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 23:49:05 -0400, wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 22:01:57 -0400, bpuharic wrote: On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:35:26 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:40:56 -0400, bpuharic wrote: \\\\\\\ 20 Jul 2010 06:52:21 -0400, wrote: The SCOTUS also says the cop can make everyone get out, show ID, get searched for weapons, search the car for weapons and run a dog through it. Somehow, you immigration status seems pretty minimal at this point. he can demand ID. the passengers dont have to show him ****. That is not true. MARYLAND v. WILSON says they can all be rousted and the passenger compartment of the car searched "for weapons". While that is going on they can have a dog search the car too. ILLINOIS v. CABALLES. At that point the cop will "ask" everyone for ID. Have you ever said no to a cop on the side of the road? yeah. i told a NJSP trooper to go get ****ed after he ****ed me off How long did it take for the swelling to go down? Or was he back in his car driving away when you said it? actually, once he gives you the ticket (which he had), there's not a whole lot he can do about it. my home town of pittsburgh has, over the years, tried to arrest people for swearing at cops. even took it to the SCOTUS the cops lost every time |
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"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
... wrote in message ... On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:49:09 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message ... On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:47:21 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: That is not true. MARYLAND v. WILSON says they can all be rousted and the passenger compartment of the car searched "for weapons". While that is going on they can have a dog search the car too. ILLINOIS v. CABALLES. At that point the cop will "ask" everyone for ID. Have you ever said no to a cop on the side of the road? Usually you end up in cuffs. You can macho this as much as you like about what you would do but I bet you haven't actually done any of it. I've said no to cops on the side of the road before... Question: Have you been drinking? Answer: No. Question: Are you single? Answer: Ummm... lol The first one is the right answer to a question, the second one can go either way. We have had cops harassing women here too. It is less likely they get away with it these days but my nieces have some stories where it didn't really work out. The real question is whether you can say no when a cop "asks" you something like "can I look in your trunk" or "can I see your ID". A "no" is usually seen as reasonable suspicion that you are doing something illegal. If you weren't you just have a long day and they eventually send you on your way. If you are doing ANYTHING wrong, you get hooked up and taken in. You can say no, with the caveat that if he looks anyway, he better have actual probably cause. The "can I see your ID" goes back to asking for the DL. Driving is a privilege not a right, so he's within bounds to ask for it. If you're walking down the street, there is a higher standard of probably cause for asking for ID. That's the problem with the AZ law (well, one of the problems). You ignore the basic problem. It will always be your word against the cop's that you said no. You will lose that one. If your word was equal to the cop, there wouldn't be any traffic tickets. They are all your word against his. Well sure, but in our system you're innocent until proven guilty. Judges _tend_ to believe the police over regular citizens, but he would still have to produce something that caused him to get in your face.. Not that it's much of an example, but I've seen people win in traffic court against the testimony of an expert (police) witness. Spend a lot of time in traffic court, do ya? -- Harold |
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On 7/21/10 11:25 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 06:10:12 -0400, I am Tosk wrote: In , says... On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:40:56 -0400, wrote: \\\\\\\ 20 Jul 2010 06:52:21 -0400, wrote: The SCOTUS also says the cop can make everyone get out, show ID, get searched for weapons, search the car for weapons and run a dog through it. Somehow, you immigration status seems pretty minimal at this point. he can demand ID. the passengers dont have to show him ****. That is not true. MARYLAND v. WILSON says they can all be rousted and the passenger compartment of the car searched "for weapons". While that is going on they can have a dog search the car too. ILLINOIS v. CABALLES. At that point the cop will "ask" everyone for ID. Have you ever said no to a cop on the side of the road? Usually you end up in cuffs. You can macho this as much as you like about what you would do but I bet you haven't actually done any of it. Man, that guy is so full of doo. Everyone knows if a Cop asks for your ID you have to give it to him. Now one of the states out here on the east coast just had a court hold up that the cops have to speak the language of the person they pull over... This is such an opportunity for fraud, I used to see my FIL pretend he didn't speak English when it was convenient, do you think this will be any different? I doubt that would be all that "convenient" since they would just detain you on the side of the road until they came up with a cop who spoke a language you recognized. These days they probably have some translation software on their computer in the car. There is always google. When in doubt, they can just take you in. The only reason you get to sign a ticket and get to go on your way is the are acknowledging you understand the charge and that you understand you are obligated to pay or appear in court. If the cop can't assure himself that you have been properly notified of this, he can take you to the station until you do understand and acknowledge that. I think when those cuffs click around your wrists your english might start to improve. Not Scott...remember, he doesn't get along with cops. He got tossed on the stairs at his local cop shop and got relieved of $650...his own words. |
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In article ,
says... On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 06:10:12 -0400, I am Tosk wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:40:56 -0400, bpuharic wrote: \\\\\\\ 20 Jul 2010 06:52:21 -0400, wrote: The SCOTUS also says the cop can make everyone get out, show ID, get searched for weapons, search the car for weapons and run a dog through it. Somehow, you immigration status seems pretty minimal at this point. he can demand ID. the passengers dont have to show him ****. That is not true. MARYLAND v. WILSON says they can all be rousted and the passenger compartment of the car searched "for weapons". While that is going on they can have a dog search the car too. ILLINOIS v. CABALLES. At that point the cop will "ask" everyone for ID. Have you ever said no to a cop on the side of the road? Usually you end up in cuffs. You can macho this as much as you like about what you would do but I bet you haven't actually done any of it. Man, that guy is so full of doo. Everyone knows if a Cop asks for your ID you have to give it to him. Now one of the states out here on the east coast just had a court hold up that the cops have to speak the language of the person they pull over... This is such an opportunity for fraud, I used to see my FIL pretend he didn't speak English when it was convenient, do you think this will be any different? I doubt that would be all that "convenient" since they would just detain you on the side of the road until they came up with a cop who spoke a language you recognized. These days they probably have some translation software on their computer in the car. There is always google. When in doubt, they can just take you in. The only reason you get to sign a ticket and get to go on your way is the are acknowledging you understand the charge and that you understand you are obligated to pay or appear in court. If the cop can't assure himself that you have been properly notified of this, he can take you to the station until you do understand and acknowledge that. I think when those cuffs click around your wrists your english might start to improve. Or the strategy is to overwhelm the system so cops don't bother being so through. You know "overwhelming the system" is a tactic used by many groups trying to avoid obeying the laws... -- Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese! |
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On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 06:10:12 -0400, I am Tosk
wrote: Man, that guy is so full of doo. Everyone knows if a Cop asks for your ID you have to give it to him. Now one of the states out here on the east coast just had a court hold up that the cops have to speak the language of the person they pull over... This is such an opportunity for fraud, I used to see my FIL pretend he didn't speak English when it was convenient, do you think this will be any different? reallly? everyone know this? http://flexyourrights.org/faq/120 When do I have to show police my ID? This is a tricky issue. As a general principle, citizens who are minding their own business are not obligated to "show their papers" to police. In fact, there is no law requiring citizens to carry identification of any kind. Nonetheless, carrying an ID is generally required if you’re driving a vehicle or a passenger on a commercial airline. These requirements have been upheld on the premise that individuals who prefer not to carry ID can choose not to drive or fly. if you're suspected of a crime, cops CAN require you to show ID: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiibel_...ourt_of_Nevada |
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On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:04:01 -0400, wrote:
On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:38:45 -0400, bpuharic wrote: On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 06:10:12 -0400, I am Tosk wrote: Man, that guy is so full of doo. Everyone knows if a Cop asks for your ID you have to give it to him. Now one of the states out here on the east coast just had a court hold up that the cops have to speak the language of the person they pull over... This is such an opportunity for fraud, I used to see my FIL pretend he didn't speak English when it was convenient, do you think this will be any different? reallly? everyone know this? http://flexyourrights.org/faq/120 When do I have to show police my ID? This is a tricky issue. As a general principle, citizens who are minding their own business are not obligated to "show their papers" to police. In fact, there is no law requiring citizens to carry identification of any kind. Nonetheless, carrying an ID is generally required if you’re driving a vehicle or a passenger on a commercial airline. These requirements have been upheld on the premise that individuals who prefer not to carry ID can choose not to drive or fly. if you're suspected of a crime, cops CAN require you to show ID: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiibel_...ourt_of_Nevada That is a loophole you can drive a Crown Vic through. Terry v Ohio made "reasonable suspicion" a pretty low bar to jump over. agreed. it's the difference between having cops mind their own business and 'VHERE ARE YOUR PAPERZ!!" |
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"Harold" wrote in message ... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:49:09 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message m... On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:47:21 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: That is not true. MARYLAND v. WILSON says they can all be rousted and the passenger compartment of the car searched "for weapons". While that is going on they can have a dog search the car too. ILLINOIS v. CABALLES. At that point the cop will "ask" everyone for ID. Have you ever said no to a cop on the side of the road? Usually you end up in cuffs. You can macho this as much as you like about what you would do but I bet you haven't actually done any of it. I've said no to cops on the side of the road before... Question: Have you been drinking? Answer: No. Question: Are you single? Answer: Ummm... lol The first one is the right answer to a question, the second one can go either way. We have had cops harassing women here too. It is less likely they get away with it these days but my nieces have some stories where it didn't really work out. The real question is whether you can say no when a cop "asks" you something like "can I look in your trunk" or "can I see your ID". A "no" is usually seen as reasonable suspicion that you are doing something illegal. If you weren't you just have a long day and they eventually send you on your way. If you are doing ANYTHING wrong, you get hooked up and taken in. You can say no, with the caveat that if he looks anyway, he better have actual probably cause. The "can I see your ID" goes back to asking for the DL. Driving is a privilege not a right, so he's within bounds to ask for it. If you're walking down the street, there is a higher standard of probably cause for asking for ID. That's the problem with the AZ law (well, one of the problems). You ignore the basic problem. It will always be your word against the cop's that you said no. You will lose that one. If your word was equal to the cop, there wouldn't be any traffic tickets. They are all your word against his. Well sure, but in our system you're innocent until proven guilty. Judges _tend_ to believe the police over regular citizens, but he would still have to produce something that caused him to get in your face.. Not that it's much of an example, but I've seen people win in traffic court against the testimony of an expert (police) witness. Spend a lot of time in traffic court, do ya? -- Harold Spend a lot a time in the Institute for Morons, do ya? |
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bpuharic wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:44:48 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Jim - "Can I see you license, m'aam. Or perhaps a memorized number?" You can't remember yours? I can even recite my mastercard number... 5291.. oh wait. lol actually i know my DL number as well.. Good for you! Now go get a part time job to help pay for the Mexicans. They have a lot of expenses. |
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bpuharic wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:47:04 -0400, Harry wrote: Flajim can only count to 20, using all his digits. Most guys can count to 21, but flajim is missing *that* digit. that's OK. you can count you IQ...to 12...using all the fingers on both of your hands. Dumb response and bad form. 0-2 |
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bpuharic wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:35:26 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:40:56 -0400, wrote: \\\\\\\ 20 Jul 2010 06:52:21 -0400, wrote: The SCOTUS also says the cop can make everyone get out, show ID, get searched for weapons, search the car for weapons and run a dog through it. Somehow, you immigration status seems pretty minimal at this point. he can demand ID. the passengers dont have to show him ****. That is not true. MARYLAND v. WILSON says they can all be rousted and the passenger compartment of the car searched "for weapons". While that is going on they can have a dog search the car too. ILLINOIS v. CABALLES. At that point the cop will "ask" everyone for ID. Have you ever said no to a cop on the side of the road? yeah. i told a NJSP trooper to go get ****ed after he ****ed me off 10:01PM? You are either a drunk or really dumb... |
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On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:32:00 -0400, Larry wrote:
bpuharic wrote: On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:35:26 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:40:56 -0400, wrote: \\\\\\\ 20 Jul 2010 06:52:21 -0400, wrote: The SCOTUS also says the cop can make everyone get out, show ID, get searched for weapons, search the car for weapons and run a dog through it. Somehow, you immigration status seems pretty minimal at this point. he can demand ID. the passengers dont have to show him ****. That is not true. MARYLAND v. WILSON says they can all be rousted and the passenger compartment of the car searched "for weapons". While that is going on they can have a dog search the car too. ILLINOIS v. CABALLES. At that point the cop will "ask" everyone for ID. Have you ever said no to a cop on the side of the road? yeah. i told a NJSP trooper to go get ****ed after he ****ed me off 10:01PM? You are either a drunk or really dumb... Was that the inclusive or exclusive 'or'? -- John H |
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On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:30:54 -0400, Larry wrote:
bpuharic wrote: On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:47:04 -0400, Harry wrote: Flajim can only count to 20, using all his digits. Most guys can count to 21, but flajim is missing *that* digit. that's OK. you can count you IQ...to 12...using all the fingers on both of your hands. Dumb response and bad form. 0-2 that's as high as you can count so i'll stop |
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On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:30:04 -0400, Larry wrote:
bpuharic wrote: On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:44:48 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Jim - "Can I see you license, m'aam. Or perhaps a memorized number?" You can't remember yours? I can even recite my mastercard number... 5291.. oh wait. lol actually i know my DL number as well.. Good for you! Now go get a part time job to help pay for the Mexicans. They have a lot of expenses. not as much as wall street. wall street just cost us a trillion dollars but to the right wing that's OK. brokers arent black, and they're rich |
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"Larry" wrote in message ... bpuharic wrote: On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:44:48 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Jim - "Can I see you license, m'aam. Or perhaps a memorized number?" You can't remember yours? I can even recite my mastercard number... 5291.. oh wait. lol actually i know my DL number as well.. Good for you! Now go get a part time job to help pay for the Mexicans. They have a lot of expenses. And for God's sake don't give family's unemployment benefits so they can feed their kids! That's un-American. |
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In article , LarryG@
81gmail.com says... bpuharic wrote: On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:44:48 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Jim - "Can I see you license, m'aam. Or perhaps a memorized number?" You can't remember yours? I can even recite my mastercard number... 5291.. oh wait. lol actually i know my DL number as well.. Good for you! Now go get a part time job to help pay for the Mexicans. They have a lot of expenses. I use my DL number all the time without pulling it out. Most places trust that if you got the number in your head, they really don't need to see the card. Especially folks like grocery stores and banks that know you... Yes, the grocery here uses the DL number to id you if you don't have your courtesy card with you, I never have it so... -- Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese! |
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On 7/22/10 11:36 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 07:26:47 -0400, I am Tosk wrote: In , says... On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 00:30:46 -0400, I am Tosk wrote: I use my DL number all the time without pulling it out. Most places trust that if you got the number in your head, they really don't need to see the card. Especially folks like grocery stores and banks that know you... Yes, the grocery here uses the DL number to id you if you don't have your courtesy card with you, I never have it so... I don't usually need my driver's license for much more than getting on an airplane. The bank is happy if I swipe my debit card and punch in the pin. I am not sure why I would need any ID at the grocery store, they don't card me for beer anymore. If you don't know why I would use it in a grocery, you did not really read my post;) Try again, that's why I went into that explanation... You still write checks? God, man it is the 21st century. Banks don't trust paperhangers with ATM cards? :) |
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wrote in message ... On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 07:26:47 -0400, I am Tosk wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 00:30:46 -0400, I am Tosk wrote: I use my DL number all the time without pulling it out. Most places trust that if you got the number in your head, they really don't need to see the card. Especially folks like grocery stores and banks that know you... Yes, the grocery here uses the DL number to id you if you don't have your courtesy card with you, I never have it so... I don't usually need my driver's license for much more than getting on an airplane. The bank is happy if I swipe my debit card and punch in the pin. I am not sure why I would need any ID at the grocery store, they don't card me for beer anymore. If you don't know why I would use it in a grocery, you did not really read my post;) Try again, that's why I went into that explanation... You still write checks? God, man it is the 21st century. I write maybe 5 checks a year. Usually for some specialized gardening work, where he wants to be paid right after the work. I also don't use my debit card except for gas. There are many fewer consumer protections for debit vs. credit cards. |
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John H wrote:
On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:32:00 -0400, wrote: bpuharic wrote: On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:35:26 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:40:56 -0400, wrote: \\\\\\\ 20 Jul 2010 06:52:21 -0400, wrote: The SCOTUS also says the cop can make everyone get out, show ID, get searched for weapons, search the car for weapons and run a dog through it. Somehow, you immigration status seems pretty minimal at this point. he can demand ID. the passengers dont have to show him ****. That is not true. MARYLAND v. WILSON says they can all be rousted and the passenger compartment of the car searched "for weapons". While that is going on they can have a dog search the car too. ILLINOIS v. CABALLES. At that point the cop will "ask" everyone for ID. Have you ever said no to a cop on the side of the road? yeah. i told a NJSP trooper to go get ****ed after he ****ed me off 10:01PM? You are either a drunk or really dumb... Was that the inclusive or exclusive 'or'? "Either" covered that, but you are right. |
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I am Tosk wrote:
In articlefqadnUBbHLKXDNrRnZ2dnUVZ_qKdnZ2d@giganews. com, LarryG@ 81gmail.com says... bpuharic wrote: On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:44:48 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Jim - "Can I see you license, m'aam. Or perhaps a memorized number?" You can't remember yours? I can even recite my mastercard number... 5291.. oh wait. lol actually i know my DL number as well.. Good for you! Now go get a part time job to help pay for the Mexicans. They have a lot of expenses. I use my DL number all the time without pulling it out. Most places trust that if you got the number in your head, they really don't need to see the card. Especially folks like grocery stores and banks that know you... Yes, the grocery here uses the DL number to id you if you don't have your courtesy card with you, I never have it so... Good for you, too! Do you know your Mastercard number? That was a prerequisite to get into this club. |
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In article , LarryG@
81gmail.com says... I am Tosk wrote: In articlefqadnUBbHLKXDNrRnZ2dnUVZ_qKdnZ2d@giganews. com, LarryG@ 81gmail.com says... bpuharic wrote: On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:44:48 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Jim - "Can I see you license, m'aam. Or perhaps a memorized number?" You can't remember yours? I can even recite my mastercard number... 5291.. oh wait. lol actually i know my DL number as well.. Good for you! Now go get a part time job to help pay for the Mexicans. They have a lot of expenses. I use my DL number all the time without pulling it out. Most places trust that if you got the number in your head, they really don't need to see the card. Especially folks like grocery stores and banks that know you... Yes, the grocery here uses the DL number to id you if you don't have your courtesy card with you, I never have it so... Good for you, too! Do you know your Mastercard number? That was a prerequisite to get into this club. No, I don't use credit cards... I am not allowed to;) -- Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese! |
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"Larry" wrote in message ... bpuharic wrote: On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:47:04 -0400, Harry wrote: Flajim can only count to 20, using all his digits. Most guys can count to 21, but flajim is missing *that* digit. that's OK. you can count you IQ...to 12...using all the fingers on both of your hands. Dumb response and bad form. 0-2 Why would these guys be interested in another guy's "digit"? |
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On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:34:42 -0400, John H
wrote: There is a place for credit cards, if used properly. As long as you pay it off every month before it's due. |
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"mmc" wrote in message
g.com... "Larry" wrote in message ... bpuharic wrote: On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:47:04 -0400, Harry wrote: Flajim can only count to 20, using all his digits. Most guys can count to 21, but flajim is missing *that* digit. that's OK. you can count you IQ...to 12...using all the fingers on both of your hands. Dumb response and bad form. 0-2 Why would these guys be interested in another guy's "digit"? Harry and Don share a very "special" (wink wink) bond. I think this sort of perverted talk is mental masturbation for them. -- Harold |
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"Harold" wrote in message ... "mmc" wrote in message g.com... "Larry" wrote in message ... bpuharic wrote: On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:47:04 -0400, Harry wrote: Flajim can only count to 20, using all his digits. Most guys can count to 21, but flajim is missing *that* digit. that's OK. you can count you IQ...to 12...using all the fingers on both of your hands. Dumb response and bad form. 0-2 Why would these guys be interested in another guy's "digit"? Harry and Don share a very "special" (wink wink) bond. I think this sort of perverted talk is mental masturbation for them. -- Harold Where did you develop these fantasies.... in the NaVy? |
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