tax guts GROW the deficit!
 

On Jul 16, 6:33*pm, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 15:22:17 -0700 (PDT), Jack
wrote:

On Jul 16, 6:34*am, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 01:33:21 -0400, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 22:13:26 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

the bush tax cuts would remain for people earning less than 250K

the rich, who destroyed the economy, would start to pay their fair
missing

Someone making 250K is not rich, had nothing to do with the economy
issues, and is already paying more in taxes than others who earn less.

someone's gotta pay. making the victims pay, like the right wing wants
to do, is hardly the way to go.

The person I described is a victim as well. And, they are already
paying more.

It's the ultra-wealthy you are wanting to target. Income tax rates
isn't going to touch them, but that doesn't fit in your rant.

tax guts GROW the deficit!
 

On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 17:46:30 -0700 (PDT), Jack
wrote:

On Jul 16, 6:33*pm, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 15:22:17 -0700 (PDT), Jack
wrote:

On Jul 16, 6:34*am, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 01:33:21 -0400, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 22:13:26 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

the bush tax cuts would remain for people earning less than 250K

the rich, who destroyed the economy, would start to pay their fair
missing

Someone making 250K is not rich, had nothing to do with the economy
issues, and is already paying more in taxes than others who earn less.

someone's gotta pay. making the victims pay, like the right wing wants
to do, is hardly the way to go.

The person I described is a victim as well. And, they are already
paying more.

actually they're not paying more. the US federal tax code is VERY
SLIGHTLY progressive. and they're certainly not a victim like someone
making the median income in this country of 60K


It's the ultra-wealthy you are wanting to target. Income tax rates
isn't going to touch them, but that doesn't fit in your rant.

again, someone has to pay. the middle class is tapped out. we need to
double capital gains. but the GOP wont let that happen...and that DOES
fit into your rant

tax guts GROW the deficit!
 

On Jul 16, 9:24*pm, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 17:46:30 -0700 (PDT), Jack
wrote:





On Jul 16, 6:33*pm, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 15:22:17 -0700 (PDT), Jack
wrote:

On Jul 16, 6:34*am, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 01:33:21 -0400, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 22:13:26 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

the bush tax cuts would remain for people earning less than 250K

the rich, who destroyed the economy, would start to pay their fair
missing

Someone making 250K is not rich, had nothing to do with the economy
issues, and is already paying more in taxes than others who earn less..

someone's gotta pay. making the victims pay, like the right wing wants
to do, is hardly the way to go.

The person I described is a victim as well. *And, they are already
paying more.

actually they're not paying more. the US federal tax code is VERY
SLIGHTLY progressive.

Actually they are. A 35% swing isn't "slightly", no matter how you
spin it.

*and they're certainly not a victim like someone
making the median income in this country of 60K

They were victimized proportionally the same amount. Actually,
someone with more investments lost even more, so the less you made the
less you lost.


It's the ultra-wealthy you are wanting to target. *Income tax rates
isn't going to touch them, but that doesn't fit in your rant.

again, someone has to pay.

Therein lies your liberal problem... it's tax, tax, spend, spend...
whatever it takes to buy the votes. Someone else always has to pay.

*the middle class is tapped out. we need to
double capital gains. but the GOP wont let that happen...and that DOES
fit into your rant

For the last four years the house and senate have been under
demoncratic control... but no capital gains change has happened. Look
like the limo libs don't want it either. Else, they could have done
it at any time. Tacked it on to the health care bill, right?

tax guts GROW the deficit!
 

"Jack" wrote in message
...
On Jul 16, 6:34 am, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 01:33:21 -0400, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 22:13:26 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 23:34:35 -0400, bpuharic
wrote:

uh no. george bush handed the keys to the economy to his rich
friends.
the 2003 and 2006 tax cuts benefited the ultra wealthy. and the
middle class paid for them.

... and 43% at the bottom don't pay any income taxes.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/...rpeoplesmoney/...

Yeah, the poor people. Sure is easy to blame them! But those rich
people,
gotta give them all the breaks.

Again you miss the point.
If you rescind the Bush tax cuts, you also raise the tax rate of those
people near the bottom. For example the 10% rate is gone, replaced by
15%, the same is true of all the rates.

the bush tax cuts would remain for people earning less than 250K

the rich, who destroyed the economy, would start to pay their fair
missing

Someone making 250K is not rich, had nothing to do with the economy
issues, and is already paying more in taxes than others who earn less.

So, you make more than $250K? I doubt it.

tax guts GROW the deficit!
 

"Jack" wrote in message
...
On Jul 16, 6:33 pm, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 15:22:17 -0700 (PDT), Jack
wrote:

On Jul 16, 6:34 am, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 01:33:21 -0400, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 22:13:26 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

the bush tax cuts would remain for people earning less than 250K

the rich, who destroyed the economy, would start to pay their fair
missing

Someone making 250K is not rich, had nothing to do with the economy
issues, and is already paying more in taxes than others who earn less.

someone's gotta pay. making the victims pay, like the right wing wants
to do, is hardly the way to go.

The person I described is a victim as well. And, they are already
paying more.

It's the ultra-wealthy you are wanting to target. Income tax rates
isn't going to touch them, but that doesn't fit in your rant.

Why not just tax the poor. They seem pretty good for it... according to the
nuts anyway.

tax guts GROW the deficit!
 

wrote in message
...
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 23:49:32 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Everyone will pay, excerpt those below the threshold and that number
will be lower.
I am not worried about paying more, I think our rates are too low but
that is not the way this has been sold. People are being told the Bush
tax cuts only benefited the rich. That is a lie

Sorry, but you're just wrong. See previous comment.


Are you talking about "the Bush tax cuts" or some "to be announced"
new plan? We don't have a clue what the new plan will be until it is
passed and signed but we do know what happens if they simply let the
current cuts expire.

It is like the people who are slapping each other on the back over the
Fin Ref without actually knowing what is in the bill. I am sure in a
year or two we will be hearing about bad things that were slipped into
this bill at the last minute, like Bob's rant about the Commodity
"reform" that allowed these problems in the first place.

Which no one is talking about doing. Nice try.

tax guts GROW the deficit!
 

"Jack" wrote in message
...
On Jul 16, 9:54 am, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 08:17:25 -0500, Jim wrote:
wrote:

I think that is why they want to let the Bush tax cuts expire. They
keep saying this only affects the super rich but it is also a rise of
rates across the board. Everyone's tax bill will go up.

Obviously the Dems will put forward a bill to keep rates the same for
those making less than $250,000. That's an Obama promise.
Then watch the Reps try to block that.
Obama can't lose. Except with the Fox "news" channel viewers.
You're either joking or incredibly naive.

Jim - Sometime politician. Especially when the writing is on the wall.


unfortunately the american electorate is as dumb as the proverbial
post.

Correct, Obama is the proof of that.

fortunately, the electorate blames bush, not obama, for the depression

If true, more proof. Huh.


Obama is proof that once in a while, people make the right choice.

tax guts GROW the deficit!
 

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...

"Jack" wrote in message
...
On Jul 16, 6:34 am, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 01:33:21 -0400, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 22:13:26 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 23:34:35 -0400, bpuharic
wrote:

uh no. george bush handed the keys to the economy to his rich
friends.
the 2003 and 2006 tax cuts benefited the ultra wealthy. and the
middle class paid for them.

... and 43% at the bottom don't pay any income taxes.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/...rpeoplesmoney/...

Yeah, the poor people. Sure is easy to blame them! But those rich
people,
gotta give them all the breaks.

Again you miss the point.
If you rescind the Bush tax cuts, you also raise the tax rate of those
people near the bottom. For example the 10% rate is gone, replaced by
15%, the same is true of all the rates.

the bush tax cuts would remain for people earning less than 250K

the rich, who destroyed the economy, would start to pay their fair
missing

Someone making 250K is not rich, had nothing to do with the economy
issues, and is already paying more in taxes than others who earn less.

So, you make more than $250K? I doubt it.



Jerkin those knees again Plume?

--
Jim

tax guts GROW the deficit!
 

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
...
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 23:49:32 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Everyone will pay, excerpt those below the threshold and that number
will be lower.
I am not worried about paying more, I think our rates are too low but
that is not the way this has been sold. People are being told the Bush
tax cuts only benefited the rich. That is a lie

Sorry, but you're just wrong. See previous comment.


Are you talking about "the Bush tax cuts" or some "to be announced"
new plan? We don't have a clue what the new plan will be until it is
passed and signed but we do know what happens if they simply let the
current cuts expire.

It is like the people who are slapping each other on the back over the
Fin Ref without actually knowing what is in the bill. I am sure in a
year or two we will be hearing about bad things that were slipped into
this bill at the last minute, like Bob's rant about the Commodity
"reform" that allowed these problems in the first place.

Which no one is talking about doing. Nice try.



You don't know that, dippy da plum.

--
Harold

tax guts GROW the deficit!
 

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...

"Jack" wrote in message
...
On Jul 16, 9:54 am, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 08:17:25 -0500, Jim wrote:
wrote:

I think that is why they want to let the Bush tax cuts expire. They
keep saying this only affects the super rich but it is also a rise of
rates across the board. Everyone's tax bill will go up.

Obviously the Dems will put forward a bill to keep rates the same for
those making less than $250,000. That's an Obama promise.
Then watch the Reps try to block that.
Obama can't lose. Except with the Fox "news" channel viewers.
You're either joking or incredibly naive.

Jim - Sometime politician. Especially when the writing is on the wall.


unfortunately the american electorate is as dumb as the proverbial
post.

Correct, Obama is the proof of that.

fortunately, the electorate blames bush, not obama, for the depression

If true, more proof. Huh.


Obama is proof that once in a while, people make the right choice.



You are not only a dumb, stupid, moronic, idiot, you are insane as well. You
needed to know that berore I toss you in the hole again with your buddy
bupic.

--
Harold