On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 16:56:20 -0500, Lloyd Parsons
wrote:

Flawed it may be, but it IS a plan - which is considerably more than
whatever the current administration is up to.

Uh, I guess you haven't been watching the last few administrations.
They sat on their thumbs also you know.

Each recent administration has spent a lot more money than the
previous administration on tightening up the border. It hasn't
changed anything. The economy downturn has had some effect.

--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison

On Mon, 5 Jul 2010 16:50:52 -0500, "HeyBub"
wrote:

So you want private citizens to have the ability to demand, at
gunpoint any person to show his legal papers? Or just to demand any
person with an accent to show his legal papers?

Flawed it may be, but it IS a plan - which is considerably more than
whatever the current administration is up to.

Just because there is a plan doesn't mean the plan is better than no
plan. Look at all the plans the other side has made to solve all of
the problems. Whichever side you identify with, you can point to
some plans which have, in your opinion, done more harm than good.

Bad plans abound in government.

How about lynching homeowners who hire workers standing around Lowe's
to work with them at fixing their roofs? They don't *know* those
hires are illegal - in fact the odds are good that they aren't
illegal. But that's the same thing with businessmen who don't spend
a lot of money verifying the papers of those they hire.

Ignorance of the facts is an excuse under law. If the homeowner doesn't KNOW
they're illegals, he's blameless.

OK. Then every person looking for even a temporary job needs to have
his papers with him. Including your teen-age child or grandchild. We
certainly don't want to make it harder for the poor citizens to get
jobs, so create a bureaucracy to provide trustable IDs showing their
right to work.


--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison

On 7/5/2010 11:02 AM, brad herschel wrote:


Si ! Build the wall ! My brothers need the work !
Then we can dig holes under and around the wall !

It will be an endless headache to keep up !

We build the wall. We knock down the wall!
You gringos pay us to put wall back up.
We build the wall. We knock down the wall!
You gringos pay us to put wall back up.
Si ?

Gringos can barely manage the existing 50 miles
of walls and fence .. and you want to build ... 800 more ?

LOL ... You white folks are big dreamers ... but in reality
you are too cheap to actually get anything done and maintain it.
Big speeches , big promises from the politicians who have
support of business *not* to build a wall. Your system is
as corrupt as Mexico .. the sad part is YOU DON'T ACCEPT THAT *FACTS* .

PS . Thank you for your wonderful health care and public
schools.