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U.S. scores dead last again in healthcare study
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U.S. scores dead last again in healthcare study
"I am Tosk" wrote in message ... In article , says... On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 15:27:47 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: For common stuff like life-expectancy we rate at the 3rd World level. Statistics cite por favor. Really, there will be no cite.. Only deflection, Harry and his sister do it very well... -- Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese! No. You're an idiot and that's a fact. |
U.S. scores dead last again in healthcare study
On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 21:55:37 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote: As to what they have in Canada, most Canadians find it quite acceptable. So, you're fabricating like crazy. No fabrication. Canadians we have met do not like the system at all. Care is being rationed. There are long waits for treatment with conditions not considered "life threatening". They are not allowed to go outside the system. Many go to the US for treatment if they can afford it. Good doctors are leaving to practice elsewhere. Is that your idea of health care nirvana? |
U.S. scores dead last again in healthcare study
On 6/24/10 11:08 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 21:21:14 -0400, wrote: On 6/24/10 9:01 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 18:31:19 -0400, wrote: No need to wonder...the best medical care in this country is reserved for those who can pay for the most expensive medical care. Radical, totally radical. People like you and I with good insurance and disposable income get better care, radical. Once again...whooooooosh. I guess you are just too profound for us ordinary mortals. Are you suggesting that *everyone* should get exactly the same level of health care regardless of their ability to pay? They have that in Canada and no one seems to like it very much. Perhaps you could state your point a little more succinctly. What I am suggesting is that very wealthy foreigners come here for health care because the best we have to offer is skewed towards those with endless amounts of money. At the same time, tens of millions of Americans get ****ty health care because they don't have the amount of money our system requires to pay for it. Wealthy foreigners head to other countries, too, where quality care is available, but that availability is also there for ordinary citizens, too. |
U.S. scores dead last again in healthcare study
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U.S. scores dead last again in healthcare study
On 6/25/10 7:33 AM, BAR wrote:
The difference between you and your ilk is that you want to devolve to the lowest common denominator Nope. I don't wish where you are on anyone. |
U.S. scores dead last again in healthcare study
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Tim" wrote in message ... On Jun 24, 8:12 pm, wrote: On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 16:37:17 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Harold" wrote in message ... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 10:42:18 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message .com... In article , says... Subject: U.S. scores dead last again in healthcare study From: Harry Newsgroups: rec.boats U.S. scores dead last again in healthcare study What are the criteriea being evaluated and who did the evaluation? Go look it up. We have typically scored very low in all the standard categories, esp. if you remember that we spend multiples of what those who do better spend. It makes you wonder why people travel here from all over the world to get some of our inferior health care. For specialized operations and treatments we do great. For common stuff like life-expectancy we rate at the 3rd World level. THAT makes you wonder. Quit drinking, smoking, and eating so much junk food. Sounds like you've identified your next New Year resolutions. Feel free to not wait for Jan. 1st to start. Does it hurt when you continually bang your head up against a wall? The point he is making is our worst demographic for life expectancy is also the worst for obesity, high fat diets, smoking, drug abuse and death from criminal activity Not counting too much stress. Bzzzzt.... of topic Tim! :) Bzzzzt... Ol Em-pty headed one. No he's not. |
U.S. scores dead last again in healthcare study
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 21:21:14 -0400, Harry wrote: On 6/24/10 9:01 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 18:31:19 -0400, wrote: No need to wonder...the best medical care in this country is reserved for those who can pay for the most expensive medical care. Radical, totally radical. People like you and I with good insurance and disposable income get better care, radical. Once again...whooooooosh. I guess you are just too profound for us ordinary mortals. Are you suggesting that *everyone* should get exactly the same level of health care regardless of their ability to pay? They have that in Canada and no one seems to like it very much. Perhaps you could state your point a little more succinctly. I think he's suggesting that all the people of the US should get at least the basic care for a reasonable price. As we have it now, there are millions without care. As to what they have in Canada, most Canadians find it quite acceptable. So, you're fabricating like crazy. Ol EM-pty head. This calls for a cite. |
U.S. scores dead last again in healthcare study
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 16:37:17 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Harold" wrote in message ... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 10:42:18 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ws.com... In article , says... Subject: U.S. scores dead last again in healthcare study From: Harry Newsgroups: rec.boats U.S. scores dead last again in healthcare study What are the criteriea being evaluated and who did the evaluation? Go look it up. We have typically scored very low in all the standard categories, esp. if you remember that we spend multiples of what those who do better spend. It makes you wonder why people travel here from all over the world to get some of our inferior health care. For specialized operations and treatments we do great. For common stuff like life-expectancy we rate at the 3rd World level. THAT makes you wonder. Quit drinking, smoking, and eating so much junk food. Sounds like you've identified your next New Year resolutions. Feel free to not wait for Jan. 1st to start. Does it hurt when you continually bang your head up against a wall? The point he is making is our worst demographic for life expectancy is also the worst for obesity, high fat diets, smoking, drug abuse and death from criminal activity We all know that's a problem. He's trying to use that argument to deny people basic coverage. He's an idiot. Em-pty head, you are wacked out crazy. |
U.S. scores dead last again in healthcare study
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 15:27:47 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: For common stuff like life-expectancy we rate at the 3rd World level. Statistics cite por favor. Look it up yourself if you're able. If you're not, let me know. EMpty head. Figures that you made it up. |
U.S. scores dead last again in healthcare study
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "I am Tosk" wrote in message ... In article , says... On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 15:27:47 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: For common stuff like life-expectancy we rate at the 3rd World level. Statistics cite por favor. Really, there will be no cite.. Only deflection, Harry and his sister do it very well... -- Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese! No. You're an idiot and that's a fact. EMpty head is known for making stuff up. |
U.S. scores dead last again in healthcare study
On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 21:57:28 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 15:27:47 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: For common stuff like life-expectancy we rate at the 3rd World level. Statistics cite por favor. Look it up yourself if you're able. If you're not, let me know. Isn't that a curious response. You throw out a statistic that says the US rates very poorly on life expectancy. I'm shocked by this statement and ask where it came from. You, apparently not knowing where it came from either, asks me to look it up. Frankly I don't believe your statistic. It may be true for certain groups that have made poor life style decisions, but it's quite unlikely to be true for the population as a whole. How much time have you spent in the 3rd world? |
U.S. scores dead last again in healthcare study
On Jun 25, 2:52*am, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"I am Tosk" wrote in l-september.org... In article , says... On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 15:27:47 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: For common stuff like life-expectancy we rate at the 3rd World level. Statistics cite por favor. Really, there will be no cite.. Only deflection, Harry and his sister do it very well... -- Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese! No. You're an idiot and that's a fact. Polly want a cracker? |
U.S. scores dead last again in healthcare study
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U.S. scores dead last again in healthcare study
On 6/25/10 12:40 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 10:09:09 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 21:57:28 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message ... On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 15:27:47 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: For common stuff like life-expectancy we rate at the 3rd World level. Statistics cite por favor. Look it up yourself if you're able. If you're not, let me know. Isn't that a curious response. You throw out a statistic that says the US rates very poorly on life expectancy. I'm shocked by this statement and ask where it came from. You, apparently not knowing where it came from either, asks me to look it up. Frankly I don't believe your statistic. It may be true for certain groups that have made poor life style decisions, but it's quite unlikely to be true for the population as a whole. How much time have you spent in the 3rd world? Japan (top of the list) is 82.6 US is 78.2 Just as a sanity check, most of SubSaharan Africa is in the 40s and 50s. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ife_expectancy I wonder what happens when you weight this list by crime death and obesity rates. Crikey...*Cuba* ranks just ahead of the United States. |
U.S. scores dead last again in healthcare study
In article ,
says... On 6/25/10 12:27 PM, wrote: On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 06:05:51 -0400, wrote: Perhaps you could state your point a little more succinctly. What I am suggesting is that very wealthy foreigners come here for health care because the best we have to offer is skewed towards those with endless amounts of money. At the same time, tens of millions of Americans get ****ty health care because they don't have the amount of money our system requires to pay for it. Wealthy foreigners head to other countries, too, where quality care is available, but that availability is also there for ordinary citizens, too. Unfortunately that is the care everyone wants with this health care plan. They all want an MRI for a hangnail and expect a referral to a specialist. That is why our insurance rates are so high. Add to that a run away drug culture that thinks you haven't really been to the doctor unless you have 2 or 3 prescriptions and it becomes apparent why we spend $8k a year. I am the only person my age I know who is not taking a handful of pills every day. The retail price is usually up in 3 figures a month ... but they are on a drug plan so it is invisible to them. Why eat right and exercise, The Lipitor and Prinivil will fix it. I take a multivitamin and a low dose aspirin every day. My daily "drug" habit runs about 25 cents, I'd guess. Even generic vitamins ain't cheap. You are wasting your money on the multivitamin. |
U.S. scores dead last again in healthcare study
On 6/25/10 12:45 PM, BAR wrote:
In , says... On 6/25/10 12:27 PM, wrote: On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 06:05:51 -0400, wrote: Perhaps you could state your point a little more succinctly. What I am suggesting is that very wealthy foreigners come here for health care because the best we have to offer is skewed towards those with endless amounts of money. At the same time, tens of millions of Americans get ****ty health care because they don't have the amount of money our system requires to pay for it. Wealthy foreigners head to other countries, too, where quality care is available, but that availability is also there for ordinary citizens, too. Unfortunately that is the care everyone wants with this health care plan. They all want an MRI for a hangnail and expect a referral to a specialist. That is why our insurance rates are so high. Add to that a run away drug culture that thinks you haven't really been to the doctor unless you have 2 or 3 prescriptions and it becomes apparent why we spend $8k a year. I am the only person my age I know who is not taking a handful of pills every day. The retail price is usually up in 3 figures a month ... but they are on a drug plan so it is invisible to them. Why eat right and exercise, The Lipitor and Prinivil will fix it. I take a multivitamin and a low dose aspirin every day. My daily "drug" habit runs about 25 cents, I'd guess. Even generic vitamins ain't cheap. You are wasting your money on the multivitamin. My dick has grown from 7" to 9.25" since starting the vitamin regimen. |
U.S. scores dead last again in healthcare study
In article ,
says... On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 10:09:09 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 21:57:28 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message . .. On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 15:27:47 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: For common stuff like life-expectancy we rate at the 3rd World level. Statistics cite por favor. Look it up yourself if you're able. If you're not, let me know. Isn't that a curious response. You throw out a statistic that says the US rates very poorly on life expectancy. I'm shocked by this statement and ask where it came from. You, apparently not knowing where it came from either, asks me to look it up. Frankly I don't believe your statistic. It may be true for certain groups that have made poor life style decisions, but it's quite unlikely to be true for the population as a whole. How much time have you spent in the 3rd world? Japan (top of the list) is 82.6 US is 78.2 Just as a sanity check, most of SubSaharan Africa is in the 40s and 50s. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ife_expectancy I wonder what happens when you weight this list by crime death and obesity rates. Hey, are you calling me an obese criminal? Wait, never mind.... |
U.S. scores dead last again in healthcare study
"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 21:55:37 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: As to what they have in Canada, most Canadians find it quite acceptable. So, you're fabricating like crazy. No fabrication. Canadians we have met do not like the system at all. Care is being rationed. There are long waits for treatment with conditions not considered "life threatening". They are not allowed to go outside the system. Many go to the US for treatment if they can afford it. Good doctors are leaving to practice elsewhere. Is that your idea of health care nirvana? Say what? Yes. if you need a knee, or hip replacement, you'll wait longer than you like. The beauty is...nothing stops those people from going elsewhere (such as USA) if they can afford it. In most cases it depends on what province you live in. As far as doctors go... they can make more money south of the border... but with that comes drastic insurance rates. My next door neighbour was a family physician and he researched it all out...... decided to stay. I lost our family doctor to that southern movement quite a few years ago. his brother took over the practice... within walking distance of my home. the older brother is now back working out oh his younger brothers office. Go figure! On the other side of me is a well known local cancer specialist. I'm sure she could go anywhere, and command a handsome fee, but she stays right here. Some say 'quality of life' is an important part of the equation. Money isn't everything. |
U.S. scores dead last again in healthcare study
"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 21:55:37 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: As to what they have in Canada, most Canadians find it quite acceptable. So, you're fabricating like crazy. No fabrication. Canadians we have met do not like the system at all. Care is being rationed. There are long waits for treatment with conditions not considered "life threatening". They are not allowed to go outside the system. Many go to the US for treatment if they can afford it. Good doctors are leaving to practice elsewhere. Is that your idea of health care nirvana? Canadians "you've met" is quite a different statement than "no one" seems to like it... Like I said, you're making things up. |
U.S. scores dead last again in healthcare study
wrote in message ... On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 06:05:51 -0400, Harry wrote: Perhaps you could state your point a little more succinctly. What I am suggesting is that very wealthy foreigners come here for health care because the best we have to offer is skewed towards those with endless amounts of money. At the same time, tens of millions of Americans get ****ty health care because they don't have the amount of money our system requires to pay for it. Wealthy foreigners head to other countries, too, where quality care is available, but that availability is also there for ordinary citizens, too. Unfortunately that is the care everyone wants with this health care plan. They all want an MRI for a hangnail and expect a referral to a specialist. That is why our insurance rates are so high. Add to that a run away drug culture that thinks you haven't really been to the doctor unless you have 2 or 3 prescriptions and it becomes apparent why we spend $8k a year. I am the only person my age I know who is not taking a handful of pills every day. The retail price is usually up in 3 figures a month ... but they are on a drug plan so it is invisible to them. Why eat right and exercise, The Lipitor and Prinivil will fix it. Yeah, it's all about the person who is sick demanding treatment. It's all their fault for getting sick. Nonsense. |
U.S. scores dead last again in healthcare study
"Harold" wrote in message ... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Tim" wrote in message ... On Jun 24, 8:12 pm, wrote: On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 16:37:17 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Harold" wrote in message ... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 10:42:18 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message .com... In article , says... Subject: U.S. scores dead last again in healthcare study From: Harry Newsgroups: rec.boats U.S. scores dead last again in healthcare study What are the criteriea being evaluated and who did the evaluation? Go look it up. We have typically scored very low in all the standard categories, esp. if you remember that we spend multiples of what those who do better spend. It makes you wonder why people travel here from all over the world to get some of our inferior health care. For specialized operations and treatments we do great. For common stuff like life-expectancy we rate at the 3rd World level. THAT makes you wonder. Quit drinking, smoking, and eating so much junk food. Sounds like you've identified your next New Year resolutions. Feel free to not wait for Jan. 1st to start. Does it hurt when you continually bang your head up against a wall? The point he is making is our worst demographic for life expectancy is also the worst for obesity, high fat diets, smoking, drug abuse and death from criminal activity Not counting too much stress. Bzzzzt.... of topic Tim! :) Bzzzzt... Ol Em-pty headed one. No he's not. You're a moron and a stalker. |
U.S. scores dead last again in healthcare study
"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 21:57:28 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message . .. On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 15:27:47 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: For common stuff like life-expectancy we rate at the 3rd World level. Statistics cite por favor. Look it up yourself if you're able. If you're not, let me know. Isn't that a curious response. You throw out a statistic that says the US rates very poorly on life expectancy. I'm shocked by this statement and ask where it came from. You, apparently not knowing where it came from either, asks me to look it up. Frankly I don't believe your statistic. It may be true for certain groups that have made poor life style decisions, but it's quite unlikely to be true for the population as a whole. How much time have you spent in the 3rd world? Who cares if _you_ don't believe it. You don't believe the Earth is a sphere. So what. What does my time in a 3rd World country got to do with our medical outcomes compared to another 1st World country? Feel free to believe what you want. In fact, don't look it up. I don't want you to hurt yourself. |
U.S. scores dead last again in healthcare study
wrote in message ... On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 10:09:09 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 21:57:28 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 15:27:47 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: For common stuff like life-expectancy we rate at the 3rd World level. Statistics cite por favor. Look it up yourself if you're able. If you're not, let me know. Isn't that a curious response. You throw out a statistic that says the US rates very poorly on life expectancy. I'm shocked by this statement and ask where it came from. You, apparently not knowing where it came from either, asks me to look it up. Frankly I don't believe your statistic. It may be true for certain groups that have made poor life style decisions, but it's quite unlikely to be true for the population as a whole. How much time have you spent in the 3rd world? Japan (top of the list) is 82.6 US is 78.2 Just as a sanity check, most of SubSaharan Africa is in the 40s and 50s. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ife_expectancy I wonder what happens when you weight this list by crime death and obesity rates. I wonder what would happen to crime death and obesity rates if we actually had sane gun regulation and forced McDs to act a bit more in the public's best interest rather than rely on the "free market." |
U.S. scores dead last again in healthcare study
"Jack" wrote in message ... On Jun 25, 2:52 am, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "I am Tosk" wrote in l-september.org... In article , says... On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 15:27:47 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: For common stuff like life-expectancy we rate at the 3rd World level. Statistics cite por favor. Really, there will be no cite.. Only deflection, Harry and his sister do it very well... -- Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese! No. You're an idiot and that's a fact. Polly want a cracker? Yes, you're an idiot Polly. Keep stalking. Makes you seem so manly. |
U.S. scores dead last again in healthcare study
wrote in message ... On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 12:08:35 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Japan (top of the list) is 82.6 US is 78.2 Just as a sanity check, most of SubSaharan Africa is in the 40s and 50s. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ife_expectancy I wonder what happens when you weight this list by crime death and obesity rates. I wonder what would happen to crime death and obesity rates if we actually had sane gun regulation Probably not much. We stab more people per 100,000 than UK murders (all causes). Netherlands and Japan are better than that. and forced McDs to act a bit more in the public's best interest rather than rely on the "free market." McDonalds is just the lightning rod for our obesity problems. Look at the portion sizes at Red Lobster or Olive Garden. The average size of a dinner plate in the 50s was 9". It is 12" now. Remember when a Coke was 7 ounces. A "SMALL" coke is now at least 12 ounces and may be 20. A Big Gulp is 64. A candy bar was about the size of your thumb. They called a 3 Musketeers bar that because you were supposed to break it into 3 pieces and split it with 2 friends. It used to even be scored. Now it is twice as big and people eat the whole thing. I watched Supersize me... blech... |
U.S. scores dead last again in healthcare study
wrote in message ... On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 14:55:00 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: McDonalds is just the lightning rod for our obesity problems. Look at the portion sizes at Red Lobster or Olive Garden. The average size of a dinner plate in the 50s was 9". It is 12" now. Remember when a Coke was 7 ounces. A "SMALL" coke is now at least 12 ounces and may be 20. A Big Gulp is 64. A candy bar was about the size of your thumb. They called a 3 Musketeers bar that because you were supposed to break it into 3 pieces and split it with 2 friends. It used to even be scored. Now it is twice as big and people eat the whole thing. I watched Supersize me... blech... Like I said, McDonalds is just the lightning rod. Why single out "fast" food when so many slow food places have all you can eat specials? Because McDs is ubiquitous in the US. |
U.S. scores dead last again in healthcare study
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U.S. scores dead last again in healthcare study
YukonBound wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 21:55:37 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: As to what they have in Canada, most Canadians find it quite acceptable. So, you're fabricating like crazy. No fabrication. Canadians we have met do not like the system at all. Care is being rationed. There are long waits for treatment with conditions not considered "life threatening". They are not allowed to go outside the system. Many go to the US for treatment if they can afford it. Good doctors are leaving to practice elsewhere. Is that your idea of health care nirvana? Say what? Yes. if you need a knee, or hip replacement, you'll wait longer than you like. The beauty is...nothing stops those people from going elsewhere (such as USA) if they can afford it. In most cases it depends on what province you live in. As far as doctors go... they can make more money south of the border... but with that comes drastic insurance rates. My next door neighbour was a family physician and he researched it all out...... decided to stay. I lost our family doctor to that southern movement quite a few years ago. his brother took over the practice... within walking distance of my home. the older brother is now back working out oh his younger brothers office. Go figure! On the other side of me is a well known local cancer specialist. I'm sure she could go anywhere, and command a handsome fee, but she stays right here. Some say 'quality of life' is an important part of the equation. Money isn't everything. Say what? Canadian health care sucks? |
U.S. scores dead last again in healthcare study
"Harry " wrote in message m... On 6/25/10 12:45 PM, BAR wrote: In , says... On 6/25/10 12:27 PM, wrote: On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 06:05:51 -0400, wrote: Perhaps you could state your point a little more succinctly. What I am suggesting is that very wealthy foreigners come here for health care because the best we have to offer is skewed towards those with endless amounts of money. At the same time, tens of millions of Americans get ****ty health care because they don't have the amount of money our system requires to pay for it. Wealthy foreigners head to other countries, too, where quality care is available, but that availability is also there for ordinary citizens, too. Unfortunately that is the care everyone wants with this health care plan. They all want an MRI for a hangnail and expect a referral to a specialist. That is why our insurance rates are so high. Add to that a run away drug culture that thinks you haven't really been to the doctor unless you have 2 or 3 prescriptions and it becomes apparent why we spend $8k a year. I am the only person my age I know who is not taking a handful of pills every day. The retail price is usually up in 3 figures a month ... but they are on a drug plan so it is invisible to them. Why eat right and exercise, The Lipitor and Prinivil will fix it. I take a multivitamin and a low dose aspirin every day. My daily "drug" habit runs about 25 cents, I'd guess. Even generic vitamins ain't cheap. You are wasting your money on the multivitamin. My dick has grown from 7" to 9.25" since starting the vitamin regimen. So what if you're one of the Dopers, who start at 3"? |
U.S. scores dead last again in healthcare study
wrote in message ... On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 12:08:35 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Japan (top of the list) is 82.6 US is 78.2 Just as a sanity check, most of SubSaharan Africa is in the 40s and 50s. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ife_expectancy I wonder what happens when you weight this list by crime death and obesity rates. I wonder what would happen to crime death and obesity rates if we actually had sane gun regulation Probably not much. We stab more people per 100,000 than UK murders (all causes). Netherlands and Japan are better than that. and forced McDs to act a bit more in the public's best interest rather than rely on the "free market." McDonalds is just the lightning rod for our obesity problems. Look at the portion sizes at Red Lobster or Olive Garden. The average size of a dinner plate in the 50s was 9". It is 12" now. Remember when a Coke was 7 ounces. A "SMALL" coke is now at least 12 ounces and may be 20. A Big Gulp is 64. A candy bar was about the size of your thumb. They called a 3 Musketeers bar that because you were supposed to break it into 3 pieces and split it with 2 friends. It used to even be scored. Now it is twice as big and people eat the whole thing. I have to admit, I was always amazed by the size of food portions in American restaurants...compared to up here. |
U.S. scores dead last again in healthcare study
wrote in message ... On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 21:01:07 -0400, Harry ? wrote: On 6/25/10 8:28 PM, wrote: On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 14:55:00 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: McDonalds is just the lightning rod for our obesity problems. Look at the portion sizes at Red Lobster or Olive Garden. The average size of a dinner plate in the 50s was 9". It is 12" now. Remember when a Coke was 7 ounces. A "SMALL" coke is now at least 12 ounces and may be 20. A Big Gulp is 64. A candy bar was about the size of your thumb. They called a 3 Musketeers bar that because you were supposed to break it into 3 pieces and split it with 2 friends. It used to even be scored. Now it is twice as big and people eat the whole thing. I watched Supersize me... blech... Like I said, McDonalds is just the lightning rod. Why single out "fast" food when so many slow food places have all you can eat specials? More moral equivalency. So it is better for you to pig out at the Olive Garden "bottomless" pasta bowl or Golden Corral's all you can eat ribs for $10. It seems that is the way they advertise restaurant these days. "The food sucks but there is plenty of it" At least the quality of food there is better, and that's not saying much. |
U.S. scores dead last again in healthcare study
"bpuharic" wrote in message ... On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 21:37:20 -0600, Canuck57 wrote: On 23/06/2010 7:54 PM, bpuharic wrote: http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.c...-care-costs/On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 19:51:04 -0600, wrote: Lets hope people wise up in November voting habits. There is a reason far fewer Canadians own boats than Americans...smaller homes on average, smaller lots...long waiting lists for family physistions... and how long do they wait if they have NO health insurance you guys keep ignoring THAT section of the population You think government is going to provide you health care for $3800 / year.... the canadian economy is in better shape than the US economy. it grew at 6.1% in the 1st quarter of this year more proof the right doesnt know **** You are truly myopic. What good is "free" insurance if you die waiting? and how long do you wait if you have NO insurance? care to answer? oh. no. you won't. got any proof anyone in canada is dying because of waiting? no. i thought not. And it isn't free, the article said $3800 per person, ok, 1/3 actually work so that is $10,000++ per taxpayer and the US cost is probably close to double that . But wait, that is government with a 25.5% GA, so make it $12,500. Oh wait, government likes to skim it for pork, aff another 30%. Before long government holds it over your head like a hammer to justify 50% of your income will go to taxes in one form or another. and the US cost is probably double THAT And you still get to wait to find a family doctor or 3 months for an MRI to have the tech say, wish we caught this a month earlier. I will not even get into governemtn rationing of services often based on your taxability. gee. it took me 2 months to get an appt with an ENT throat dr who went to an american medical school instead of one who graduated from the kabul school of medicine and medical services here are rationed on your ability to pay. so, yes, we have rationing. http://www.debbieschlussel.com/6607/...-time-preview/ Look at the wait times. Someone was in the paper last week, died waiting. So what the costs and you can't get it in time. gee. guess you get good service here in the US if you have no health insurance, right? Get over it, your DC government wants this to skim the revenue. get over it. your health care is more efficent, and cheaper and more available than ours is. . All is not as it seems. Obama is playing you for a fool. and the rich white boy bush already duped you into beliieving right wing fairy tales Oh, even our rich premiers would rather go to the US than use the same system they manage for us. Think about that for a minute. blah blah. 165,000 americans go overseas for healthcare they can afford think about that for a moment The poor and rich get great medical care. Middle class has to pay. Well the rich pay, but is not a problem with them. The poor are a reason our ER rooms are full. They use the ER like a doctors office as well as cutting and shooting each other with a lot more frequency than the middle and rich partake of mayhem. |
U.S. scores dead last again in healthcare study
wrote in message ... On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 12:08:35 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Japan (top of the list) is 82.6 US is 78.2 Just as a sanity check, most of SubSaharan Africa is in the 40s and 50s. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ife_expectancy I wonder what happens when you weight this list by crime death and obesity rates. I wonder what would happen to crime death and obesity rates if we actually had sane gun regulation Probably not much. We stab more people per 100,000 than UK murders (all causes). Netherlands and Japan are better than that. and forced McDs to act a bit more in the public's best interest rather than rely on the "free market." McDonalds is just the lightning rod for our obesity problems. Look at the portion sizes at Red Lobster or Olive Garden. The average size of a dinner plate in the 50s was 9". It is 12" now. Remember when a Coke was 7 ounces. A "SMALL" coke is now at least 12 ounces and may be 20. A Big Gulp is 64. A candy bar was about the size of your thumb. They called a 3 Musketeers bar that because you were supposed to break it into 3 pieces and split it with 2 friends. It used to even be scored. Now it is twice as big and people eat the whole thing. Coke was 6 oz. 7 Up got it's name as it was 7 oz. Go to Claim Jumper. A dessert will feed 6. Look at the grocery store. 50' of aisle full of chips of all sorts. |
U.S. scores dead last again in healthcare study
"YukonBound" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 12:08:35 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Japan (top of the list) is 82.6 US is 78.2 Just as a sanity check, most of SubSaharan Africa is in the 40s and 50s. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ife_expectancy I wonder what happens when you weight this list by crime death and obesity rates. I wonder what would happen to crime death and obesity rates if we actually had sane gun regulation Probably not much. We stab more people per 100,000 than UK murders (all causes). Netherlands and Japan are better than that. and forced McDs to act a bit more in the public's best interest rather than rely on the "free market." McDonalds is just the lightning rod for our obesity problems. Look at the portion sizes at Red Lobster or Olive Garden. The average size of a dinner plate in the 50s was 9". It is 12" now. Remember when a Coke was 7 ounces. A "SMALL" coke is now at least 12 ounces and may be 20. A Big Gulp is 64. A candy bar was about the size of your thumb. They called a 3 Musketeers bar that because you were supposed to break it into 3 pieces and split it with 2 friends. It used to even be scored. Now it is twice as big and people eat the whole thing. I have to admit, I was always amazed by the size of food portions in American restaurants...compared to up here. Up there has had large portions also. Hy's Steak House in Regina had a 32 oz filet migno on the menu in 1968. Actually watched the cook grill one. Look how much whip cream is served on a dessert in Canada. |
U.S. scores dead last again in healthcare study
YukonBound wrote:
"Harry " wrote in message m... On 6/25/10 12:45 PM, BAR wrote: In , says... On 6/25/10 12:27 PM, wrote: On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 06:05:51 -0400, wrote: Perhaps you could state your point a little more succinctly. What I am suggesting is that very wealthy foreigners come here for health care because the best we have to offer is skewed towards those with endless amounts of money. At the same time, tens of millions of Americans get ****ty health care because they don't have the amount of money our system requires to pay for it. Wealthy foreigners head to other countries, too, where quality care is available, but that availability is also there for ordinary citizens, too. Unfortunately that is the care everyone wants with this health care plan. They all want an MRI for a hangnail and expect a referral to a specialist. That is why our insurance rates are so high. Add to that a run away drug culture that thinks you haven't really been to the doctor unless you have 2 or 3 prescriptions and it becomes apparent why we spend $8k a year. I am the only person my age I know who is not taking a handful of pills every day. The retail price is usually up in 3 figures a month ... but they are on a drug plan so it is invisible to them. Why eat right and exercise, The Lipitor and Prinivil will fix it. I take a multivitamin and a low dose aspirin every day. My daily "drug" habit runs about 25 cents, I'd guess. Even generic vitamins ain't cheap. You are wasting your money on the multivitamin. My dick has grown from 7" to 9.25" since starting the vitamin regimen. So what if you're one of the Dopers, who start at 3"? Say what? |
U.S. scores dead last again in healthcare study
YukonBound wrote:
"Larry" wrote in message ... YukonBound wrote: "Harry " wrote in message m... On 6/25/10 12:45 PM, BAR wrote: In , says... On 6/25/10 12:27 PM, wrote: On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 06:05:51 -0400, wrote: Perhaps you could state your point a little more succinctly. What I am suggesting is that very wealthy foreigners come here for health care because the best we have to offer is skewed towards those with endless amounts of money. At the same time, tens of millions of Americans get ****ty health care because they don't have the amount of money our system requires to pay for it. Wealthy foreigners head to other countries, too, where quality care is available, but that availability is also there for ordinary citizens, too. Unfortunately that is the care everyone wants with this health care plan. They all want an MRI for a hangnail and expect a referral to a specialist. That is why our insurance rates are so high. Add to that a run away drug culture that thinks you haven't really been to the doctor unless you have 2 or 3 prescriptions and it becomes apparent why we spend $8k a year. I am the only person my age I know who is not taking a handful of pills every day. The retail price is usually up in 3 figures a month ... but they are on a drug plan so it is invisible to them. Why eat right and exercise, The Lipitor and Prinivil will fix it. I take a multivitamin and a low dose aspirin every day. My daily "drug" habit runs about 25 cents, I'd guess. Even generic vitamins ain't cheap. You are wasting your money on the multivitamin. My dick has grown from 7" to 9.25" since starting the vitamin regimen. So what if you're one of the Dopers, who start at 3"? Say what? Not "say what" ...Say who? ....and I guess you've answered that question. Say what? Sounds really dumb, eh? Why do you keep using that lame line? |
U.S. scores dead last again in healthcare study
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U.S. scores dead last again in healthcare study
"Califbill" wrote in message m... ap. Fear of malpractice adds to health costs. http://www.physorg.com/news190398335.html A small study, and it doesn't give a cost. It's been reported nationally for a long time that it adds a few percentage points to the cost. More right-wing bs to suggest it's a huge factor. |
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