Blackwater Chief To Flee the Country?

Three unnamed sources tell The Nation that Blackwater owner Erik Prince
may be planning a permanent vacation to the United Arab Emirates in the
wake of federal indictments against top company executives.

Prince has not yet been hit with any formal accusations, but his closest
deputies are facing conspiracy, weapons, and obstruction of justice
charges, and there's reason to suspect that he'll be targeted next. Last
year, two former employees testified that Prince had transported
"illegal" weapons into Iraq and that "Mr. Prince and his employees
murdered, or had murdered, one or more persons who have provided
information, or who were planning to provide information, to the federal
authorities about the ongoing criminal conduct."

In 2008, two Blackwater employees were indicted for murder after a
shooting in Afghanistan, and The Nation reports that Prince is currently
facing several new civil lawsuits, including one put forth by the
company's Iraqi victims. The company has spent the past several years
trying to duck bad press—it has renamed itself "Xe Services" and the "US
Training Center"—but the efforts have largely been unsuccessful.

At the moment, Blackwater is the target of multiple federal
investigations, which Prince has likened to a "giant proctological
exam." Because Blackwater is so deeply entangled in classified
government activity, The Nation speculates that Prince may be laying the
groundwork for amnesty by participating in "graymail"—threatening to
leak sensitive data in order to escape prosecution. He's also been
shedding parts of the multimillion dollar company over the past several
months. Earlier this year, Prince sold Blackwater's aviation division
for $200 million, and last week, he put the whole thing up for sale.
With the government closing in, internal sources tell The Nation that
Blackwater's "sale is going to be a fast move within a couple of months"
and that Prince is on his way out. The UAE does not have an extradition
treaty with the United States, which is likely a key factor in Prince's
decision. According to international law expert Scott Horton, the
Emirates are "definitely a jurisdiction where Prince could count on it
not being simple for the US to pursue him legally."

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No need to pursue him legally if he flees to the UAE...just have him shot.

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Blackwater Chief To Flee the Country?

Three unnamed sources tell The Nation that Blackwater owner Erik Prince
may be planning a permanent vacation to the United Arab Emirates in the
wake of federal indictments against top company executives.

Prince has not yet been hit with any formal accusations, but his closest
deputies are facing conspiracy, weapons, and obstruction of justice
charges, and there's reason to suspect that he'll be targeted next. Last
year, two former employees testified that Prince had transported "illegal"
weapons into Iraq and that "Mr. Prince and his employees murdered, or had
murdered, one or more persons who have provided information, or who were
planning to provide information, to the federal authorities about the
ongoing criminal conduct."

In 2008, two Blackwater employees were indicted for murder after a
shooting in Afghanistan, and The Nation reports that Prince is currently
facing several new civil lawsuits, including one put forth by the
company's Iraqi victims. The company has spent the past several years
trying to duck bad press—it has renamed itself "Xe Services" and the "US
Training Center"—but the efforts have largely been unsuccessful.

At the moment, Blackwater is the target of multiple federal
investigations, which Prince has likened to a "giant proctological exam."
Because Blackwater is so deeply entangled in classified government
activity, The Nation speculates that Prince may be laying the groundwork
for amnesty by participating in "graymail"—threatening to leak sensitive
data in order to escape prosecution. He's also been shedding parts of the
multimillion dollar company over the past several months. Earlier this
year, Prince sold Blackwater's aviation division for $200 million, and
last week, he put the whole thing up for sale. With the government closing
in, internal sources tell The Nation that Blackwater's "sale is going to
be a fast move within a couple of months" and that Prince is on his way
out. The UAE does not have an extradition treaty with the United States,
which is likely a key factor in Prince's decision. According to
international law expert Scott Horton, the Emirates are "definitely a
jurisdiction where Prince could count on it not being simple for the US to
pursue him legally."

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No need to pursue him legally if he flees to the UAE...just have him shot.




Us Klan types with the gifted albino children think Erik Prince should be
King of the world.
Go get'um Erik,

"King Erik the awful" long live the King!

I hear over in U.A.E they have very cute harem girls, very good choice of
places to just hang out and spend your$$$,

On 16/06/2010 5:43 AM, Harry wrote:
Blackwater Chief To Flee the Country?

Three unnamed sources tell The Nation that Blackwater owner Erik Prince
may be planning a permanent vacation to the United Arab Emirates in the
wake of federal indictments against top company executives.

He must have ticked off Obama.


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On 6/16/10 9:13 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 16/06/2010 5:43 AM, Harry wrote:
Blackwater Chief To Flee the Country?

Three unnamed sources tell The Nation that Blackwater owner Erik Prince
may be planning a permanent vacation to the United Arab Emirates in the
wake of federal indictments against top company executives.

He must have ticked off Obama.




You are as unformed on this issue as you are on everything else.

For a guy who claims he is on someone's payroll, you sure post here a
lot during normal work hours. Either you are ****ing over your employer,
or you are just a Canadian version of Snotty...an unemployable, bitter
asshole.

My guess...the latter.

On 6/16/10 9:23 AM, Harry wrote:
On 6/16/10 9:13 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 16/06/2010 5:43 AM, Harry wrote:
Blackwater Chief To Flee the Country?

Three unnamed sources tell The Nation that Blackwater owner Erik Prince
may be planning a permanent vacation to the United Arab Emirates in the
wake of federal indictments against top company executives.

He must have ticked off Obama.




You are as ***unformed*** on this issue as you are on everything else.

For a guy who claims he is on someone's payroll, you sure post here a
lot during normal work hours. Either you are ****ing over your employer,
or you are just a Canadian version of Snotty...an unemployable, bitter
asshole.

My guess...the latter.


Hmmm...unformed works...but uninformed would be better!

On 6/16/10 1:14 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 07:43:42 -0400,
wrote:

In 2008, two Blackwater employees were indicted for murder after a
shooting in Afghanistan, and The Nation reports that Prince is currently
facing several new civil lawsuits, including one put forth by the
company's Iraqi victims.

The danger in this is we may be setting up the US Army for the same
type of thing. There is plenty of evidence that our military has shot
innocent people too.
We can't even start to address the number of innocents who get killed
in aerial attacks, going back almost 20 years in these ill thought out
mid east adventures.
That is the nature of a war where virtually all of the combatants are
out of uniform, fighting from the cover of civilian neighborhoods.


Well, *we* can adhere to higher standards or, better, realize that these
wars are pretty much worthless adventures. As for Blackwater and its
criminal execs and employees, put 'em on trial and if they're convicted,
imprison them.

On 6/16/10 2:32 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 13:27:14 -0400,
wrote:

On 6/16/10 1:14 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 07:43:42 -0400,
wrote:

In 2008, two Blackwater employees were indicted for murder after a
shooting in Afghanistan, and The Nation reports that Prince is currently
facing several new civil lawsuits, including one put forth by the
company's Iraqi victims.

The danger in this is we may be setting up the US Army for the same
type of thing. There is plenty of evidence that our military has shot
innocent people too.
We can't even start to address the number of innocents who get killed
in aerial attacks, going back almost 20 years in these ill thought out
mid east adventures.
That is the nature of a war where virtually all of the combatants are
out of uniform, fighting from the cover of civilian neighborhoods.


Well, *we* can adhere to higher standards or, better, realize that these
wars are pretty much worthless adventures. As for Blackwater and its
criminal execs and employees, put 'em on trial and if they're convicted,
imprison them.


I think the question is whether the Army really does have higher
standards about who the lowest common denominator decides to shoot.
There are certainly a lot of reports about soldiers just shooting
Hajjis out the window of their HumVee for the hell of it.

As for air strikes. You hit what you hit, whether that is what you
want or not. They do make intelligent munitions that can be
deactivated if it looks like they will miss but then you just gave the
bad guys the makings of a nice IED.



I don't connect the horrors perpetrated by Blackwater with the horrors,
mostly inadvertant, perpetrated by soldiers ordered to do X,Y, or Z.
Either way, the victims are just as dead, but...we have redress,
imperfect as it might be, against the military chain of command. We have
almost no control over the Blackwater Hessians and others of their ilk.

It's one thing to hire contractors to drive trucks or wire showers (if
they can demonstrate competence). It's another thing for contractors to
be involved in killing squads.

On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 13:14:48 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 07:43:42 -0400, Harry
wrote:

In 2008, two Blackwater employees were indicted for murder after a
shooting in Afghanistan, and The Nation reports that Prince is currently
facing several new civil lawsuits, including one put forth by the
company's Iraqi victims.

The danger in this is we may be setting up the US Army for the same
type of thing. There is plenty of evidence that our military has shot
innocent people too.
We can't even start to address the number of innocents who get killed
in aerial attacks, going back almost 20 years in these ill thought out
mid east adventures.
That is the nature of a war where virtually all of the combatants are
out of uniform, fighting from the cover of civilian neighborhoods.

Might as well go all the way back to WW I. Lots of innocents killed with
artillery then. During WW II , there were lots more killed with bombs. And of
course, there was Korea and Vietnam and probably Panama and a few others. Many
like to think only the Bush regime was responsible for killing civilians. Little
bit of bull**** there.

On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 14:32:35 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 13:27:14 -0400, Harry
wrote:

On 6/16/10 1:14 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 07:43:42 -0400,
wrote:

In 2008, two Blackwater employees were indicted for murder after a
shooting in Afghanistan, and The Nation reports that Prince is currently
facing several new civil lawsuits, including one put forth by the
company's Iraqi victims.

The danger in this is we may be setting up the US Army for the same
type of thing. There is plenty of evidence that our military has shot
innocent people too.
We can't even start to address the number of innocents who get killed
in aerial attacks, going back almost 20 years in these ill thought out
mid east adventures.
That is the nature of a war where virtually all of the combatants are
out of uniform, fighting from the cover of civilian neighborhoods.


Well, *we* can adhere to higher standards or, better, realize that these
wars are pretty much worthless adventures. As for Blackwater and its
criminal execs and employees, put 'em on trial and if they're convicted,
imprison them.


I think the question is whether the Army really does have higher
standards about who the lowest common denominator decides to shoot.
There are certainly a lot of reports about soldiers just shooting
Hajjis out the window of their HumVee for the hell of it.

As for air strikes. You hit what you hit, whether that is what you
want or not. They do make intelligent munitions that can be
deactivated if it looks like they will miss but then you just gave the
bad guys the makings of a nice IED.

Hard to believe Harry is describing Obama's wars as 'worthless adventures'.

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On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 13:27:14 -0400, Harry
wrote:

On 6/16/10 1:14 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 07:43:42 -0400,
wrote:

In 2008, two Blackwater employees were indicted for murder after a
shooting in Afghanistan, and The Nation reports that Prince is
currently
facing several new civil lawsuits, including one put forth by the
company's Iraqi victims.

The danger in this is we may be setting up the US Army for the same
type of thing. There is plenty of evidence that our military has shot
innocent people too.
We can't even start to address the number of innocents who get killed
in aerial attacks, going back almost 20 years in these ill thought out
mid east adventures.
That is the nature of a war where virtually all of the combatants are
out of uniform, fighting from the cover of civilian neighborhoods.


Well, *we* can adhere to higher standards or, better, realize that these
wars are pretty much worthless adventures. As for Blackwater and its
criminal execs and employees, put 'em on trial and if they're convicted,
imprison them.


I think the question is whether the Army really does have higher
standards about who the lowest common denominator decides to shoot.
There are certainly a lot of reports about soldiers just shooting
Hajjis out the window of their HumVee for the hell of it.

As for air strikes. You hit what you hit, whether that is what you
want or not. They do make intelligent munitions that can be
deactivated if it looks like they will miss but then you just gave the
bad guys the makings of a nice IED.


Not sure about higher standards, but at least those in the military can be
prosecuted. The BW crowd may not be.