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On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 13:27:14 -0400, Harry
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On 6/16/10 1:14 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 07:43:42 -0400,
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In 2008, two Blackwater employees were indicted for murder after a
shooting in Afghanistan, and The Nation reports that Prince is
currently
facing several new civil lawsuits, including one put forth by the
company's Iraqi victims.

The danger in this is we may be setting up the US Army for the same
type of thing. There is plenty of evidence that our military has shot
innocent people too.
We can't even start to address the number of innocents who get killed
in aerial attacks, going back almost 20 years in these ill thought out
mid east adventures.
That is the nature of a war where virtually all of the combatants are
out of uniform, fighting from the cover of civilian neighborhoods.


Well, *we* can adhere to higher standards or, better, realize that these
wars are pretty much worthless adventures. As for Blackwater and its
criminal execs and employees, put 'em on trial and if they're convicted,
imprison them.


I think the question is whether the Army really does have higher
standards about who the lowest common denominator decides to shoot.
There are certainly a lot of reports about soldiers just shooting
Hajjis out the window of their HumVee for the hell of it.

As for air strikes. You hit what you hit, whether that is what you
want or not. They do make intelligent munitions that can be
deactivated if it looks like they will miss but then you just gave the
bad guys the makings of a nice IED.


Not sure about higher standards, but at least those in the military can be
prosecuted. The BW crowd may not be.

On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 13:14:48 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 07:43:42 -0400, Harry
wrote:

In 2008, two Blackwater employees were indicted for murder after a
shooting in Afghanistan, and The Nation reports that Prince is currently
facing several new civil lawsuits, including one put forth by the
company's Iraqi victims.

The danger in this is we may be setting up the US Army for the same
type of thing. There is plenty of evidence that our military has shot
innocent people too.
We can't even start to address the number of innocents who get killed
in aerial attacks, going back almost 20 years in these ill thought out
mid east adventures.
That is the nature of a war where virtually all of the combatants are
out of uniform, fighting from the cover of civilian neighborhoods.

Might as well go all the way back to WW I. Lots of innocents killed with
artillery then. During WW II , there were lots more killed with bombs. And of
course, there was Korea and Vietnam and probably Panama and a few others. Many
like to think only the Bush regime was responsible for killing civilians. Little
bit of bull**** there.

"John H" wrote in message
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On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 13:14:48 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 07:43:42 -0400, Harry
wrote:

In 2008, two Blackwater employees were indicted for murder after a
shooting in Afghanistan, and The Nation reports that Prince is currently
facing several new civil lawsuits, including one put forth by the
company's Iraqi victims.

The danger in this is we may be setting up the US Army for the same
type of thing. There is plenty of evidence that our military has shot
innocent people too.
We can't even start to address the number of innocents who get killed
in aerial attacks, going back almost 20 years in these ill thought out
mid east adventures.
That is the nature of a war where virtually all of the combatants are
out of uniform, fighting from the cover of civilian neighborhoods.

Might as well go all the way back to WW I. Lots of innocents killed with
artillery then. During WW II , there were lots more killed with bombs. And
of
course, there was Korea and Vietnam and probably Panama and a few others.
Many
like to think only the Bush regime was responsible for killing civilians.
Little
bit of bull**** there.

The difference is, you imbecile, that WW1/2 were not wars of choice;
whereas, Iraq was.

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"John H" wrote in message
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On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 13:14:48 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 07:43:42 -0400, Harry
wrote:

In 2008, two Blackwater employees were indicted for murder after a
shooting in Afghanistan, and The Nation reports that Prince is currently
facing several new civil lawsuits, including one put forth by the
company's Iraqi victims.

The danger in this is we may be setting up the US Army for the same
type of thing. There is plenty of evidence that our military has shot
innocent people too.
We can't even start to address the number of innocents who get killed
in aerial attacks, going back almost 20 years in these ill thought out
mid east adventures.
That is the nature of a war where virtually all of the combatants are
out of uniform, fighting from the cover of civilian neighborhoods.

Might as well go all the way back to WW I. Lots of innocents killed with
artillery then. During WW II , there were lots more killed with bombs.
And of
course, there was Korea and Vietnam and probably Panama and a few others.
Many
like to think only the Bush regime was responsible for killing civilians.
Little
bit of bull**** there.

The difference is, you imbecile, that WW1/2 were not wars of choice;
whereas, Iraq was.



That Johnny! Never was involved in a war that his side won.
No wonder he's punch drunk!

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"John H" wrote in message
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On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 13:14:48 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 07:43:42 -0400, Harry
wrote:

In 2008, two Blackwater employees were indicted for murder after a
shooting in Afghanistan, and The Nation reports that Prince is currently
facing several new civil lawsuits, including one put forth by the
company's Iraqi victims.

The danger in this is we may be setting up the US Army for the same
type of thing. There is plenty of evidence that our military has shot
innocent people too.
We can't even start to address the number of innocents who get killed
in aerial attacks, going back almost 20 years in these ill thought out
mid east adventures.
That is the nature of a war where virtually all of the combatants are
out of uniform, fighting from the cover of civilian neighborhoods.

Might as well go all the way back to WW I. Lots of innocents killed with
artillery then. During WW II , there were lots more killed with bombs.
And of
course, there was Korea and Vietnam and probably Panama and a few others.
Many
like to think only the Bush regime was responsible for killing civilians.
Little
bit of bull**** there.

The difference is, you imbecile, that WW1/2 were not wars of choice;
whereas, Iraq was.



That Johnny! Never was involved in a war that his side won.
No wonder he's punch drunk!

What did you do in the Canadian Forces? Oh, that's right you were a
shipping clerk in a Crown Corporation.

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"John H" wrote in message
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On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 13:14:48 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 07:43:42 -0400, Harry
wrote:

In 2008, two Blackwater employees were indicted for murder after a
shooting in Afghanistan, and The Nation reports that Prince is
currently
facing several new civil lawsuits, including one put forth by the
company's Iraqi victims.

The danger in this is we may be setting up the US Army for the same
type of thing. There is plenty of evidence that our military has shot
innocent people too.
We can't even start to address the number of innocents who get killed
in aerial attacks, going back almost 20 years in these ill thought out
mid east adventures.
That is the nature of a war where virtually all of the combatants are
out of uniform, fighting from the cover of civilian neighborhoods.

Might as well go all the way back to WW I. Lots of innocents killed
with
artillery then. During WW II , there were lots more killed with bombs.
And of
course, there was Korea and Vietnam and probably Panama and a few
others.
Many
like to think only the Bush regime was responsible for killing
civilians.
Little
bit of bull**** there.

The difference is, you imbecile, that WW1/2 were not wars of choice;
whereas, Iraq was.



That Johnny! Never was involved in a war that his side won.
No wonder he's punch drunk!

What did you do in the Canadian Forces? Oh, that's right you were a
shipping clerk in a Crown Corporation.

~~ Snerk ~~
This from the guy his own Corps was too embarrassed to send anywhere.

On 16/06/2010 2:22 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
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On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 13:14:48 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 07:43:42 -0400, Harry
wrote:

In 2008, two Blackwater employees were indicted for murder after a
shooting in Afghanistan, and The Nation reports that Prince is
currently
facing several new civil lawsuits, including one put forth by the
company's Iraqi victims.

The danger in this is we may be setting up the US Army for the same
type of thing. There is plenty of evidence that our military has shot
innocent people too.
We can't even start to address the number of innocents who get killed
in aerial attacks, going back almost 20 years in these ill thought out
mid east adventures.
That is the nature of a war where virtually all of the combatants are
out of uniform, fighting from the cover of civilian neighborhoods.

Might as well go all the way back to WW I. Lots of innocents killed with
artillery then. During WW II , there were lots more killed with bombs.
And of
course, there was Korea and Vietnam and probably Panama and a few
others. Many
like to think only the Bush regime was responsible for killing
civilians. Little
bit of bull**** there.

The difference is, you imbecile, that WW1/2 were not wars of choice;
whereas, Iraq was.

US could have stayed out of WW II. But the writting was on the wall
that if they didn't Britain, Italy and all the "old" countries would not
be there any more. Europe would be renamed the Natzi United Europe.
Would have had the a-bomb and jet fighters to go with them before the US
did.


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Taxation, modern day slavery. The loss of economic freedom.

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On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 15:38:47 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 13:14:48 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 07:43:42 -0400, Harry
wrote:

In 2008, two Blackwater employees were indicted for murder after a
shooting in Afghanistan, and The Nation reports that Prince is currently
facing several new civil lawsuits, including one put forth by the
company's Iraqi victims.

The danger in this is we may be setting up the US Army for the same
type of thing. There is plenty of evidence that our military has shot
innocent people too.
We can't even start to address the number of innocents who get killed
in aerial attacks, going back almost 20 years in these ill thought out
mid east adventures.
That is the nature of a war where virtually all of the combatants are
out of uniform, fighting from the cover of civilian neighborhoods.

Might as well go all the way back to WW I. Lots of innocents killed with
artillery then. During WW II , there were lots more killed with bombs. And of
course, there was Korea and Vietnam and probably Panama and a few others. Many
like to think only the Bush regime was responsible for killing civilians. Little
bit of bull**** there.

WWII was when the world embraced the mass killing of civilians as
being the way to wage war and we call that the "good" war.. Funny huh?
We carpet bombed cities, torpedoed merchant ships and were the first
people to nuke someone.

Like dad always said, there is no such thing as a fair fight. There are
winners and losers, we brought our A game and won. Remember, on 12/7 we
were attacked. If you poke a sleeping giant you might get stepped on.

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!

On 6/17/10 10:47 AM, I am Tosk wrote:


Like dad always said, there is no such thing as a fair fight. There are
winners and losers

How old were you when he determined you were...a loser?