Interesting...
 

" "…a Fairfax Water customer who buys a 20-ounce bottle of water for $1.25
could fill that same 20-ounce bottle with our tap water every day for more than
10 years for that same $1.25."

I wish they'd charge a 25cent deposit for every plastic bottle sold.

Interesting...
 

"John H" wrote in message
...
" ".a Fairfax Water customer who buys a 20-ounce bottle of water for
$1.25
could fill that same 20-ounce bottle with our tap water every day
for more than
10 years for that same $1.25."

I wish they'd charge a 25cent deposit for every plastic bottle sold.

Bottled water at sam's club is 15 cents per bottle. You are not
supposed to refill the disposable bottles, due to sanitation concerns.
If you carry a refillable bottle you have to hang on to it.

Interesting...
 

"Del Cecchi" wrote in message
...

"John H" wrote in message
...
" ".a Fairfax Water customer who buys a 20-ounce bottle of water for
$1.25
could fill that same 20-ounce bottle with our tap water every day for
more than
10 years for that same $1.25."

I wish they'd charge a 25cent deposit for every plastic bottle sold.

Bottled water at sam's club is 15 cents per bottle. You are not supposed
to refill the disposable bottles, due to sanitation concerns. If you carry
a refillable bottle you have to hang on to it.



We have a better system here. I go to the local grocery store and pay 65
cents for a 4 liter refill of city tap water run through a reverse
osmosis/filtering and ultra-violet light process machine. Tastes much
better than any mineral water.

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On Jun 11, 9:40*pm, "Del Cecchi" wrote:
"John H" wrote in message

...

" ".a Fairfax Water customer who buys a 20-ounce bottle of water for
$1.25
could fill that same 20-ounce bottle with our tap water every day
for more than
10 years for that same $1.25."

I wish they'd charge a 25cent deposit for every plastic bottle sold.

Bottled water at sam's club is 15 cents per bottle. *You are not
supposed to refill the disposable bottles, due to sanitation concerns.
If you carry a refillable bottle you have to hang on to it.

I don't refill the thin plastic ones from water, but we save gatoraid
and other thicker bottles and use them. We go through a lot of water
at the track, and we also fill a bunch with water and powdered
gatoraide or similar too. We have RO filters in both houses, and well
water too so we don't really pay anything for our refills to speak
of..

Scotty

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wrote in message
...
On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 20:12:18 -0400, John H
wrote:

" ".a Fairfax Water customer who buys a 20-ounce bottle of water for $1.25
could fill that same 20-ounce bottle with our tap water every day for more
than
10 years for that same $1.25."

I wish they'd charge a 25cent deposit for every plastic bottle sold.

I find it strange that people lose their mind if someone pays a buck
for a bottle of water but if someone puts a few pennies worth of sugar
and artificial color/flavor in it, that is fine.

You are paying for the convenience of the bottle.

In DC the tap water is "bottle quality" as long as 3ppm of chlorine
doesn't bother you but in a lot of places tap water is pretty nasty or
they have a well with nasty water.

For us, in hurricane country, bottled water is survival supplies. If
you just try to bottle your own tap water and store it away, more
times than not, you will have a science fair project in a month.
I have little interest in having a stomach virus while I am recovering
from a hurricane.

3PPM. That's about where our pool water is when the salt generator is set
right.

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On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 20:40:42 -0500, "Del Cecchi" wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
.. .
" ".a Fairfax Water customer who buys a 20-ounce bottle of water for
$1.25
could fill that same 20-ounce bottle with our tap water every day
for more than
10 years for that same $1.25."

I wish they'd charge a 25cent deposit for every plastic bottle sold.

Bottled water at sam's club is 15 cents per bottle. You are not
supposed to refill the disposable bottles, due to sanitation concerns.
If you carry a refillable bottle you have to hang on to it.



I wouldn't expect them to refill the bottles, just recycle the plastic. A lot
fewer people would buy water in plastic bottles, and a lot fewer of those
plastic bottles would be polluting our rivers, lakes, ditches, lawns, etc.

Interesting...
 

On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 23:18:01 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 20:12:18 -0400, John H
wrote:

" "…a Fairfax Water customer who buys a 20-ounce bottle of water for $1.25
could fill that same 20-ounce bottle with our tap water every day for more than
10 years for that same $1.25."

I wish they'd charge a 25cent deposit for every plastic bottle sold.

I find it strange that people lose their mind if someone pays a buck
for a bottle of water but if someone puts a few pennies worth of sugar
and artificial color/flavor in it, that is fine.

You are paying for the convenience of the bottle.

In DC the tap water is "bottle quality" as long as 3ppm of chlorine
doesn't bother you but in a lot of places tap water is pretty nasty or
they have a well with nasty water.

For us, in hurricane country, bottled water is survival supplies. If
you just try to bottle your own tap water and store it away, more
times than not, you will have a science fair project in a month.
I have little interest in having a stomach virus while I am recovering
from a hurricane.

I have no problem with buying bottled water for survival supplies. Buy it by the
gallon, pay a deposit, and store it forever. That's a good idea.

And, if the tap water is bad, buy plastic bottles. Just pay a deposit and return
the bottle to the store when buying more.

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In article ,
says...

On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 09:33:22 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 20:40:42 -0500, "Del Cecchi" wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
. ..
" ".a Fairfax Water customer who buys a 20-ounce bottle of water for
$1.25
could fill that same 20-ounce bottle with our tap water every day
for more than
10 years for that same $1.25."

I wish they'd charge a 25cent deposit for every plastic bottle sold.

Bottled water at sam's club is 15 cents per bottle. You are not
supposed to refill the disposable bottles, due to sanitation concerns.
If you carry a refillable bottle you have to hang on to it.



I wouldn't expect them to refill the bottles, just recycle the plastic. A lot
fewer people would buy water in plastic bottles, and a lot fewer of those
plastic bottles would be polluting our rivers, lakes, ditches, lawns, etc.

Littering is not the same issue as bottled water. Pigs are pigs.

We have curb side recycling but they burn the plastic and paper in the
waste to energy incinerator. That is a lot more efficient than
trucking it 1500 miles to a recycling plant. Somebody complained and
they are going to start sorting and trucking. It will cost us about
$300,000 a year for this "saving"

Here in Montgomery County we can't give away our recycliing.

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On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 10:59:32 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 09:33:22 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 20:40:42 -0500, "Del Cecchi" wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
...
" ".a Fairfax Water customer who buys a 20-ounce bottle of water for
$1.25
could fill that same 20-ounce bottle with our tap water every day
for more than
10 years for that same $1.25."

I wish they'd charge a 25cent deposit for every plastic bottle sold.

Bottled water at sam's club is 15 cents per bottle. You are not
supposed to refill the disposable bottles, due to sanitation concerns.
If you carry a refillable bottle you have to hang on to it.



I wouldn't expect them to refill the bottles, just recycle the plastic. A lot
fewer people would buy water in plastic bottles, and a lot fewer of those
plastic bottles would be polluting our rivers, lakes, ditches, lawns, etc.

Littering is not the same issue as bottled water. Pigs are pigs.

We have curb side recycling but they burn the plastic and paper in the
waste to energy incinerator. That is a lot more efficient than
trucking it 1500 miles to a recycling plant. Somebody complained and
they are going to start sorting and trucking. It will cost us about
$300,000 a year for this "saving"


I think a hefty deposit on the plastic bottles would reduce the number of pigs,
and maybe entice some kids to pick up bottles. That's how I bought Cokes when I
was a kid.

As to the 'complainer', well, you just can't cure stupid.

Interesting...
 

On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 11:11:45 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 09:37:18 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 23:18:01 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 20:12:18 -0400, John H
wrote:

" "…a Fairfax Water customer who buys a 20-ounce bottle of water for $1.25
could fill that same 20-ounce bottle with our tap water every day for more than
10 years for that same $1.25."

I wish they'd charge a 25cent deposit for every plastic bottle sold.

I find it strange that people lose their mind if someone pays a buck
for a bottle of water but if someone puts a few pennies worth of sugar
and artificial color/flavor in it, that is fine.

You are paying for the convenience of the bottle.

In DC the tap water is "bottle quality" as long as 3ppm of chlorine
doesn't bother you but in a lot of places tap water is pretty nasty or
they have a well with nasty water.

For us, in hurricane country, bottled water is survival supplies. If
you just try to bottle your own tap water and store it away, more
times than not, you will have a science fair project in a month.
I have little interest in having a stomach virus while I am recovering
from a hurricane.

I have no problem with buying bottled water for survival supplies. Buy it by the
gallon, pay a deposit, and store it forever. That's a good idea.

The half liter bottles are a lot better for that. You can freeze
them, have ice for the coolers and still be able to pull out a few for
drinking. A frozen gallon jug is fairly useless
You also have the problem that without clean water you are not washing
dishes so if I have gallon jugs, I will be using paper/plastic cups.
The .5l bottle is better.

And, if the tap water is bad, buy plastic bottles. Just pay a deposit and return
the bottle to the store when buying more.

Deposits are just a tax. I thought you were a conservative.

Deposits are a refundable tax. I don't mind those if the reason is appropriate.

As to the two liter bottles (I assume that's what you meant), I was talking
about survival supplies. I use the 'Simply Orange' plastic jugs for water in the
coolers. The bottles are heavyweight and the tops stay on well.

Interesting...
 

On Jun 11, 8:12*pm, John H wrote:
" *"…a Fairfax Water customer who buys a 20-ounce bottle of water for $1.25
could fill that same 20-ounce bottle with our tap water every day for more than
10 years for that same $1.25."

I wish they'd charge a 25cent deposit for every plastic bottle sold.

"Bottled Water" in Ontario, will soon be a thing of the past. Thank
Gawd....

Interesting...
 

"*e#c" wrote in message
...
On Jun 11, 8:12 pm, John H wrote:
" "…a Fairfax Water customer who buys a 20-ounce bottle of water for
$1.25
could fill that same 20-ounce bottle with our tap water every day for
more than
10 years for that same $1.25."

I wish they'd charge a 25cent deposit for every plastic bottle sold.

"Bottled Water" in Ontario, will soon be a thing of the past. Thank
Gawd....

It's outlawed in Halifax Municipal offices & meetings.
Province has been talking about the same thing.

Interesting...
 

On 12/06/2010 12:37 PM, *e#c wrote:
On Jun 11, 8:12 pm, John wrote:
" "…a Fairfax Water customer who buys a 20-ounce bottle of water for $1.25
could fill that same 20-ounce bottle with our tap water every day for more than
10 years for that same $1.25."

I wish they'd charge a 25cent deposit for every plastic bottle sold.

"Bottled Water" in Ontario, will soon be a thing of the past. Thank
Gawd....

What are you going to use? The toilet?

--
Taxation, modern day slavery. The loss of economic freedom.

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On 12/06/2010 1:00 PM, YukonBound wrote:


"*e#c" wrote in message
...
On Jun 11, 8:12 pm, John H wrote:
" "…a Fairfax Water customer who buys a 20-ounce bottle of water for
$1.25
could fill that same 20-ounce bottle with our tap water every day for
more than
10 years for that same $1.25."

I wish they'd charge a 25cent deposit for every plastic bottle sold.

"Bottled Water" in Ontario, will soon be a thing of the past. Thank
Gawd....

It's outlawed in Halifax Municipal offices & meetings.
Province has been talking about the same thing.

You mean governmetn had nothing better to do like properly manage the city?

--
Taxation, modern day slavery. The loss of economic freedom.

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"Canuck57" wrote in message
...
On 12/06/2010 12:37 PM, *e#c wrote:
On Jun 11, 8:12 pm, John wrote:
" "…a Fairfax Water customer who buys a 20-ounce bottle of water for
$1.25
could fill that same 20-ounce bottle with our tap water every day for
more than
10 years for that same $1.25."

I wish they'd charge a 25cent deposit for every plastic bottle sold.

"Bottled Water" in Ontario, will soon be a thing of the past. Thank
Gawd....

What are you going to use? The toilet?

--
Taxation, modern day slavery. The loss of economic freedom.

Your choice? Ewww...

Interesting...
 

In article ,
says...

"*e#c" wrote in message
...
On Jun 11, 8:12 pm, John H wrote:
" "?a Fairfax Water customer who buys a 20-ounce bottle of water for
$1.25
could fill that same 20-ounce bottle with our tap water every day for
more than
10 years for that same $1.25."

I wish they'd charge a 25cent deposit for every plastic bottle sold.

"Bottled Water" in Ontario, will soon be a thing of the past. Thank
Gawd....

It's outlawed in Halifax Municipal offices & meetings.
Province has been talking about the same thing.

The utility of bottled water is imeasurable. Freezing water to make ice
cubes is a waste of a valuable resource when the ice is put into a
cooler. Freezing bottles of water to use as "ice" in a cooler doesn't
waste the water. Besides there is plenty of oil around to continue to
make the plastic bottles.

Interesting...
 

"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
In article ,
says...

"*e#c" wrote in message
...
On Jun 11, 8:12 pm, John H wrote:
" "?a Fairfax Water customer who buys a 20-ounce bottle of water for
$1.25
could fill that same 20-ounce bottle with our tap water every day for
more than
10 years for that same $1.25."

I wish they'd charge a 25cent deposit for every plastic bottle sold.

"Bottled Water" in Ontario, will soon be a thing of the past. Thank
Gawd....

It's outlawed in Halifax Municipal offices & meetings.
Province has been talking about the same thing.

The utility of bottled water is imeasurable. Freezing water to make ice
cubes is a waste of a valuable resource when the ice is put into a
cooler. Freezing bottles of water to use as "ice" in a cooler doesn't
waste the water. Besides there is plenty of oil around to continue to
make the plastic bottles.

Yeah, but you have to collect it yourself on the Gulf coast...

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On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 15:14:08 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

"*e#c" wrote in message
...
On Jun 11, 8:12 pm, John H wrote:
" "?a Fairfax Water customer who buys a 20-ounce bottle of water for
$1.25
could fill that same 20-ounce bottle with our tap water every day for
more than
10 years for that same $1.25."

I wish they'd charge a 25cent deposit for every plastic bottle sold.

"Bottled Water" in Ontario, will soon be a thing of the past. Thank
Gawd....

It's outlawed in Halifax Municipal offices & meetings.
Province has been talking about the same thing.

The utility of bottled water is imeasurable. Freezing water to make ice
cubes is a waste of a valuable resource when the ice is put into a
cooler. Freezing bottles of water to use as "ice" in a cooler doesn't
waste the water. Besides there is plenty of oil around to continue to
make the plastic bottles.

Well, that just means you're putting that bottle on which you paid a deposit to
good use. That's much better than trashing it alongside the road or in the bay.

Interesting...
 

wrote in message
...
On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 18:55:11 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 15:14:08 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

"*e#c" wrote in message
...
On Jun 11, 8:12 pm, John H wrote:
" "?a Fairfax Water customer who buys a 20-ounce bottle of water
for
$1.25
could fill that same 20-ounce bottle with our tap water every day
for
more than
10 years for that same $1.25."

I wish they'd charge a 25cent deposit for every plastic bottle sold.

"Bottled Water" in Ontario, will soon be a thing of the past. Thank
Gawd....

It's outlawed in Halifax Municipal offices & meetings.
Province has been talking about the same thing.

The utility of bottled water is imeasurable. Freezing water to make ice
cubes is a waste of a valuable resource when the ice is put into a
cooler. Freezing bottles of water to use as "ice" in a cooler doesn't
waste the water. Besides there is plenty of oil around to continue to
make the plastic bottles.

Well, that just means you're putting that bottle on which you paid a
deposit to
good use. That's much better than trashing it alongside the road or in the
bay.

Littering is a separate issue. Do you think we should have a deposit
on all containers, wrappers and cups?
I fish out all the trash I see in the river and I get as many ice
bags, subway bags and styrofoam cups as I do beverage containers.
Water bottles are really fairly rare.

I believe Cal just passed a law forcing grocery stores to give up plastic
bags in the checkout.

Interesting...
 

On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:40:00 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 18:55:11 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 15:14:08 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

"*e#c" wrote in message
...
On Jun 11, 8:12 pm, John H wrote:
" "?a Fairfax Water customer who buys a 20-ounce bottle of water for
$1.25
could fill that same 20-ounce bottle with our tap water every day for
more than
10 years for that same $1.25."

I wish they'd charge a 25cent deposit for every plastic bottle sold.

"Bottled Water" in Ontario, will soon be a thing of the past. Thank
Gawd....

It's outlawed in Halifax Municipal offices & meetings.
Province has been talking about the same thing.

The utility of bottled water is imeasurable. Freezing water to make ice
cubes is a waste of a valuable resource when the ice is put into a
cooler. Freezing bottles of water to use as "ice" in a cooler doesn't
waste the water. Besides there is plenty of oil around to continue to
make the plastic bottles.

Well, that just means you're putting that bottle on which you paid a deposit to
good use. That's much better than trashing it alongside the road or in the bay.

Littering is a separate issue. Do you think we should have a deposit
on all containers, wrappers and cups?
I fish out all the trash I see in the river and I get as many ice
bags, subway bags and styrofoam cups as I do beverage containers.
Water bottles are really fairly rare.

Right now my hangup is with plastic bottles. Some places are already charging
for plastic bags, and I've no problem with that either. Biodegradable
containers are OK.

Interesting...
 

On 6/14/10 3:56 PM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:40:00 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 18:55:11 -0400, John
wrote:

On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 15:14:08 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

wrote in message
...
On Jun 11, 8:12 pm, John wrote:
" "?a Fairfax Water customer who buys a 20-ounce bottle of water for
$1.25
could fill that same 20-ounce bottle with our tap water every day for
more than
10 years for that same $1.25."

I wish they'd charge a 25cent deposit for every plastic bottle sold.

"Bottled Water" in Ontario, will soon be a thing of the past. Thank
Gawd....

It's outlawed in Halifax Municipal offices& meetings.
Province has been talking about the same thing.

The utility of bottled water is imeasurable. Freezing water to make ice
cubes is a waste of a valuable resource when the ice is put into a
cooler. Freezing bottles of water to use as "ice" in a cooler doesn't
waste the water. Besides there is plenty of oil around to continue to
make the plastic bottles.

Well, that just means you're putting that bottle on which you paid a deposit to
good use. That's much better than trashing it alongside the road or in the bay.

Littering is a separate issue. Do you think we should have a deposit
on all containers, wrappers and cups?
I fish out all the trash I see in the river and I get as many ice
bags, subway bags and styrofoam cups as I do beverage containers.
Water bottles are really fairly rare.

Right now my hangup is with plastic bottles. Some places are already charging
for plastic bags, and I've no problem with that either. Biodegradable
containers are OK.


This will give you a stroke for sure, herring, but I agree with you...

Interesting...
 

"Harry" wrote in message
m...
On 6/14/10 3:56 PM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:40:00 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 18:55:11 -0400, John
wrote:

On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 15:14:08 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

wrote in message
...
On Jun 11, 8:12 pm, John wrote:
" "?a Fairfax Water customer who buys a 20-ounce bottle of water
for
$1.25
could fill that same 20-ounce bottle with our tap water every day
for
more than
10 years for that same $1.25."

I wish they'd charge a 25cent deposit for every plastic bottle
sold.

"Bottled Water" in Ontario, will soon be a thing of the past. Thank
Gawd....

It's outlawed in Halifax Municipal offices& meetings.
Province has been talking about the same thing.

The utility of bottled water is imeasurable. Freezing water to make
ice
cubes is a waste of a valuable resource when the ice is put into a
cooler. Freezing bottles of water to use as "ice" in a cooler doesn't
waste the water. Besides there is plenty of oil around to continue to
make the plastic bottles.

Well, that just means you're putting that bottle on which you paid a
deposit to
good use. That's much better than trashing it alongside the road or in
the bay.

Littering is a separate issue. Do you think we should have a deposit
on all containers, wrappers and cups?
I fish out all the trash I see in the river and I get as many ice
bags, subway bags and styrofoam cups as I do beverage containers.
Water bottles are really fairly rare.

Right now my hangup is with plastic bottles. Some places are already
charging
for plastic bags, and I've no problem with that either. Biodegradable
containers are OK.


This will give you a stroke for sure, herring, but I agree with you...


Last year one of our major grocery stores started charging for their flimsy
plastic bags. They expected you to buy the larger sacks for multiple
re-uses.
Trouble is, their competition didn't, and still provided better quality
plastic bags...so the 1st store reverted to the previous practice.
note: the bags cost the store around a penny each, but then charged the
customers a nickel per.
The big 'permanent' bags cost a dollar... you just have to remember to put
them back in the car each time.

Interesting...
 

On 6/14/10 4:27 PM, YukonBound wrote:


"Harry" wrote in message
m...
On 6/14/10 3:56 PM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:40:00 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 18:55:11 -0400, John
wrote:

On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 15:14:08 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

wrote in message
...

On Jun 11, 8:12 pm, John wrote:
" "?a Fairfax Water customer who buys a 20-ounce bottle of
water for
$1.25
could fill that same 20-ounce bottle with our tap water every
day for
more than
10 years for that same $1.25."

I wish they'd charge a 25cent deposit for every plastic bottle
sold.

"Bottled Water" in Ontario, will soon be a thing of the past. Thank
Gawd....

It's outlawed in Halifax Municipal offices& meetings.
Province has been talking about the same thing.

The utility of bottled water is imeasurable. Freezing water to
make ice
cubes is a waste of a valuable resource when the ice is put into a
cooler. Freezing bottles of water to use as "ice" in a cooler doesn't
waste the water. Besides there is plenty of oil around to continue to
make the plastic bottles.

Well, that just means you're putting that bottle on which you paid
a deposit to
good use. That's much better than trashing it alongside the road or
in the bay.

Littering is a separate issue. Do you think we should have a deposit
on all containers, wrappers and cups?
I fish out all the trash I see in the river and I get as many ice
bags, subway bags and styrofoam cups as I do beverage containers.
Water bottles are really fairly rare.

Right now my hangup is with plastic bottles. Some places are already
charging
for plastic bags, and I've no problem with that either. Biodegradable
containers are OK.


This will give you a stroke for sure, herring, but I agree with you...


Last year one of our major grocery stores started charging for their
flimsy plastic bags. They expected you to buy the larger sacks for
multiple re-uses.
Trouble is, their competition didn't, and still provided better quality
plastic bags...so the 1st store reverted to the previous practice.
note: the bags cost the store around a penny each, but then charged the
customers a nickel per.
The big 'permanent' bags cost a dollar... you just have to remember to
put them back in the car each time.


The District of Columbia now requires food chains to charge 5 cents for
food carryout bags. The money supposedly is being used to help clean up
one of the rivers here.

I always preferred and still prefer paper bags at the grocery store.

Interesting...
 

"Harry" wrote in message
m...
On 6/14/10 3:56 PM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:40:00 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 18:55:11 -0400, John
wrote:

On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 15:14:08 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

wrote in message
...
On Jun 11, 8:12 pm, John wrote:
" "?a Fairfax Water customer who buys a 20-ounce bottle of water
for
$1.25
could fill that same 20-ounce bottle with our tap water every day
for
more than
10 years for that same $1.25."

I wish they'd charge a 25cent deposit for every plastic bottle
sold.

"Bottled Water" in Ontario, will soon be a thing of the past. Thank
Gawd....

It's outlawed in Halifax Municipal offices& meetings.
Province has been talking about the same thing.

The utility of bottled water is imeasurable. Freezing water to make
ice
cubes is a waste of a valuable resource when the ice is put into a
cooler. Freezing bottles of water to use as "ice" in a cooler doesn't
waste the water. Besides there is plenty of oil around to continue to
make the plastic bottles.

Well, that just means you're putting that bottle on which you paid a
deposit to
good use. That's much better than trashing it alongside the road or in
the bay.

Littering is a separate issue. Do you think we should have a deposit
on all containers, wrappers and cups?
I fish out all the trash I see in the river and I get as many ice
bags, subway bags and styrofoam cups as I do beverage containers.
Water bottles are really fairly rare.

Right now my hangup is with plastic bottles. Some places are already
charging
for plastic bags, and I've no problem with that either. Biodegradable
containers are OK.


This will give you a stroke for sure, herring, but I agree with you...



I don't want to contribute to his health problems, but... Amazingly, I agree
also.

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"Harry" wrote in message
m...
On 6/14/10 4:27 PM, YukonBound wrote:


"Harry" wrote in message
m...
On 6/14/10 3:56 PM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:40:00 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 18:55:11 -0400, John
wrote:

On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 15:14:08 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

wrote in message
...

On Jun 11, 8:12 pm, John wrote:
" "?a Fairfax Water customer who buys a 20-ounce bottle of
water for
$1.25
could fill that same 20-ounce bottle with our tap water every
day for
more than
10 years for that same $1.25."

I wish they'd charge a 25cent deposit for every plastic bottle
sold.

"Bottled Water" in Ontario, will soon be a thing of the past.
Thank
Gawd....

It's outlawed in Halifax Municipal offices& meetings.
Province has been talking about the same thing.

The utility of bottled water is imeasurable. Freezing water to
make ice
cubes is a waste of a valuable resource when the ice is put into a
cooler. Freezing bottles of water to use as "ice" in a cooler
doesn't
waste the water. Besides there is plenty of oil around to continue
to
make the plastic bottles.

Well, that just means you're putting that bottle on which you paid
a deposit to
good use. That's much better than trashing it alongside the road or
in the bay.

Littering is a separate issue. Do you think we should have a deposit
on all containers, wrappers and cups?
I fish out all the trash I see in the river and I get as many ice
bags, subway bags and styrofoam cups as I do beverage containers.
Water bottles are really fairly rare.

Right now my hangup is with plastic bottles. Some places are already
charging
for plastic bags, and I've no problem with that either. Biodegradable
containers are OK.


This will give you a stroke for sure, herring, but I agree with you...


Last year one of our major grocery stores started charging for their
flimsy plastic bags. They expected you to buy the larger sacks for
multiple re-uses.
Trouble is, their competition didn't, and still provided better quality
plastic bags...so the 1st store reverted to the previous practice.
note: the bags cost the store around a penny each, but then charged the
customers a nickel per.
The big 'permanent' bags cost a dollar... you just have to remember to
put them back in the car each time.


The District of Columbia now requires food chains to charge 5 cents for
food carryout bags. The money supposedly is being used to help clean up
one of the rivers here.

I always preferred and still prefer paper bags at the grocery store.

Yup... packed many of those when I worked part time in a local grocery store
during high school years.
Trouble is.. the bags got thinner, so you pretty well had to 'double' every
one.

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On 6/14/10 6:25 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 15:56:32 -0400, John
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:40:00 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 18:55:11 -0400, John
wrote:

On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 15:14:08 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

wrote in message
...
On Jun 11, 8:12 pm, John wrote:
" "?a Fairfax Water customer who buys a 20-ounce bottle of water for
$1.25
could fill that same 20-ounce bottle with our tap water every day for
more than
10 years for that same $1.25."

I wish they'd charge a 25cent deposit for every plastic bottle sold.

"Bottled Water" in Ontario, will soon be a thing of the past. Thank
Gawd....

It's outlawed in Halifax Municipal offices& meetings.
Province has been talking about the same thing.

The utility of bottled water is imeasurable. Freezing water to make ice
cubes is a waste of a valuable resource when the ice is put into a
cooler. Freezing bottles of water to use as "ice" in a cooler doesn't
waste the water. Besides there is plenty of oil around to continue to
make the plastic bottles.

Well, that just means you're putting that bottle on which you paid a deposit to
good use. That's much better than trashing it alongside the road or in the bay.

Littering is a separate issue. Do you think we should have a deposit
on all containers, wrappers and cups?
I fish out all the trash I see in the river and I get as many ice
bags, subway bags and styrofoam cups as I do beverage containers.
Water bottles are really fairly rare.

Right now my hangup is with plastic bottles. Some places are already charging
for plastic bags, and I've no problem with that either. Biodegradable
containers are OK.

I know that they used to say the grocery (plastic) bags were
biodegradable and the sun would turn them to dust in a few months. I
am now sure what happened to that.. Again, grocery bags are not the
ones I see in the water most of the time. It is ice bags.

My real problem with deposits is that the deposit does not actually
cover the cost of handling the empties, even with the 50% premium the
merchant gets when he turns them in so it just becomes an additional
tax on the cost of the product when he passes that cost on.

Just wait until BP passes on that cost of cleaning up its mess.

Interesting...
 

wrote in message
...
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 15:56:32 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:40:00 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 18:55:11 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 15:14:08 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

"*e#c" wrote in message
...
On Jun 11, 8:12 pm, John H wrote:
" "?a Fairfax Water customer who buys a 20-ounce bottle of water
for
$1.25
could fill that same 20-ounce bottle with our tap water every day
for
more than
10 years for that same $1.25."

I wish they'd charge a 25cent deposit for every plastic bottle
sold.

"Bottled Water" in Ontario, will soon be a thing of the past. Thank
Gawd....

It's outlawed in Halifax Municipal offices & meetings.
Province has been talking about the same thing.

The utility of bottled water is imeasurable. Freezing water to make ice
cubes is a waste of a valuable resource when the ice is put into a
cooler. Freezing bottles of water to use as "ice" in a cooler doesn't
waste the water. Besides there is plenty of oil around to continue to
make the plastic bottles.

Well, that just means you're putting that bottle on which you paid a
deposit to
good use. That's much better than trashing it alongside the road or in
the bay.

Littering is a separate issue. Do you think we should have a deposit
on all containers, wrappers and cups?
I fish out all the trash I see in the river and I get as many ice
bags, subway bags and styrofoam cups as I do beverage containers.
Water bottles are really fairly rare.

Right now my hangup is with plastic bottles. Some places are already
charging
for plastic bags, and I've no problem with that either. Biodegradable
containers are OK.

I know that they used to say the grocery (plastic) bags were
biodegradable and the sun would turn them to dust in a few months. I
am now sure what happened to that.. Again, grocery bags are not the
ones I see in the water most of the time. It is ice bags.

My real problem with deposits is that the deposit does not actually
cover the cost of handling the empties, even with the 50% premium the
merchant gets when he turns them in so it just becomes an additional
tax on the cost of the product when he passes that cost on.

I think the grocery bags should be banned outright.

Interesting...
 

On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 18:25:33 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 15:56:32 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:40:00 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 18:55:11 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 15:14:08 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

"*e#c" wrote in message
...
On Jun 11, 8:12 pm, John H wrote:
" "?a Fairfax Water customer who buys a 20-ounce bottle of water for
$1.25
could fill that same 20-ounce bottle with our tap water every day for
more than
10 years for that same $1.25."

I wish they'd charge a 25cent deposit for every plastic bottle sold.

"Bottled Water" in Ontario, will soon be a thing of the past. Thank
Gawd....

It's outlawed in Halifax Municipal offices & meetings.
Province has been talking about the same thing.

The utility of bottled water is imeasurable. Freezing water to make ice
cubes is a waste of a valuable resource when the ice is put into a
cooler. Freezing bottles of water to use as "ice" in a cooler doesn't
waste the water. Besides there is plenty of oil around to continue to
make the plastic bottles.

Well, that just means you're putting that bottle on which you paid a deposit to
good use. That's much better than trashing it alongside the road or in the bay.

Littering is a separate issue. Do you think we should have a deposit
on all containers, wrappers and cups?
I fish out all the trash I see in the river and I get as many ice
bags, subway bags and styrofoam cups as I do beverage containers.
Water bottles are really fairly rare.

Right now my hangup is with plastic bottles. Some places are already charging
for plastic bags, and I've no problem with that either. Biodegradable
containers are OK.

I know that they used to say the grocery (plastic) bags were
biodegradable and the sun would turn them to dust in a few months. I
am now sure what happened to that.. Again, grocery bags are not the
ones I see in the water most of the time. It is ice bags.

My real problem with deposits is that the deposit does not actually
cover the cost of handling the empties, even with the 50% premium the
merchant gets when he turns them in so it just becomes an additional
tax on the cost of the product when he passes that cost on.

Then the deposit should be high enough to cover the cost. Here we recycle
plastic, and the county picks it up. Our taxes are already being used for
recycling. I'd rather see them used for picking up the plastic at grocery
stores. I believe there'd be a lot less of it to pick up.

Interesting...
 

On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 21:52:34 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 18:59:44 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 18:25:33 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 15:56:32 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:40:00 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 18:55:11 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 15:14:08 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

"*e#c" wrote in message
...
On Jun 11, 8:12 pm, John H wrote:
" "?a Fairfax Water customer who buys a 20-ounce bottle of water for
$1.25
could fill that same 20-ounce bottle with our tap water every day for
more than
10 years for that same $1.25."

I wish they'd charge a 25cent deposit for every plastic bottle sold.

"Bottled Water" in Ontario, will soon be a thing of the past. Thank
Gawd....

It's outlawed in Halifax Municipal offices & meetings.
Province has been talking about the same thing.

The utility of bottled water is imeasurable. Freezing water to make ice
cubes is a waste of a valuable resource when the ice is put into a
cooler. Freezing bottles of water to use as "ice" in a cooler doesn't
waste the water. Besides there is plenty of oil around to continue to
make the plastic bottles.

Well, that just means you're putting that bottle on which you paid a deposit to
good use. That's much better than trashing it alongside the road or in the bay.

Littering is a separate issue. Do you think we should have a deposit
on all containers, wrappers and cups?
I fish out all the trash I see in the river and I get as many ice
bags, subway bags and styrofoam cups as I do beverage containers.
Water bottles are really fairly rare.

Right now my hangup is with plastic bottles. Some places are already charging
for plastic bags, and I've no problem with that either. Biodegradable
containers are OK.

I know that they used to say the grocery (plastic) bags were
biodegradable and the sun would turn them to dust in a few months. I
am now sure what happened to that.. Again, grocery bags are not the
ones I see in the water most of the time. It is ice bags.

My real problem with deposits is that the deposit does not actually
cover the cost of handling the empties, even with the 50% premium the
merchant gets when he turns them in so it just becomes an additional
tax on the cost of the product when he passes that cost on.

Then the deposit should be high enough to cover the cost. Here we recycle
plastic, and the county picks it up. Our taxes are already being used for
recycling. I'd rather see them used for picking up the plastic at grocery
stores. I believe there'd be a lot less of it to pick up.

The problem is that would raise the cost of all bottled drinks about
$1.50 a six pack.
The 50% adder to the deposit is invisible to the buyer, except in the
price of the drink. He pays a dime deposit, the merchant gives him
back a dime when he brings it back and the people who handle the
bottles coming back give the retailer 15 cents. That nickel is buried
in the purchase price somewhere. It is still not enough to cover the
cost of recycling the bottle. That is passed on to the consumer
somewhere, usually in your taxes if the government handles the
recycling as it does in most places.

Nope. The people handling the bottles coming back to the store pay the store
nothing. They simply haul them to the recycle point, dumping the dumpster or
whatever is used. Like I said, I'm already being taxed for recycling the plastic
bottles. I believe a deposit would reduce the amount of plastic bottle demand,
especially for water.

Interesting...
 

YukonBound wrote:


"Harry" wrote in message
m...
On 6/14/10 3:56 PM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:40:00 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 18:55:11 -0400, John
wrote:

On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 15:14:08 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

wrote in message
...

On Jun 11, 8:12 pm, John wrote:
" "?a Fairfax Water customer who buys a 20-ounce bottle of
water for
$1.25
could fill that same 20-ounce bottle with our tap water every
day for
more than
10 years for that same $1.25."

I wish they'd charge a 25cent deposit for every plastic bottle
sold.

"Bottled Water" in Ontario, will soon be a thing of the past.
Thank
Gawd....

It's outlawed in Halifax Municipal offices& meetings.
Province has been talking about the same thing.

The utility of bottled water is imeasurable. Freezing water to
make ice
cubes is a waste of a valuable resource when the ice is put into a
cooler. Freezing bottles of water to use as "ice" in a cooler
doesn't
waste the water. Besides there is plenty of oil around to
continue to
make the plastic bottles.

Well, that just means you're putting that bottle on which you paid
a deposit to
good use. That's much better than trashing it alongside the road
or in the bay.

Littering is a separate issue. Do you think we should have a deposit
on all containers, wrappers and cups?
I fish out all the trash I see in the river and I get as many ice
bags, subway bags and styrofoam cups as I do beverage containers.
Water bottles are really fairly rare.

Right now my hangup is with plastic bottles. Some places are already
charging
for plastic bags, and I've no problem with that either. Biodegradable
containers are OK.


This will give you a stroke for sure, herring, but I agree with you...


Last year one of our major grocery stores started charging for their
flimsy plastic bags. They expected you to buy the larger sacks for
multiple re-uses.
Trouble is, their competition didn't, and still provided better
quality plastic bags...so the 1st store reverted to the previous
practice.
note: the bags cost the store around a penny each, but then charged
the customers a nickel per.
The big 'permanent' bags cost a dollar... you just have to remember to
put them back in the car each time.
And wash them. Disgusting...

Interesting...
 

"Larry" wrote in message
...
YukonBound wrote:


"Harry" wrote in message
m...
On 6/14/10 3:56 PM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:40:00 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 18:55:11 -0400, John
wrote:

On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 15:14:08 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

wrote in message
...
On Jun 11, 8:12 pm, John wrote:
" "?a Fairfax Water customer who buys a 20-ounce bottle of water
for
$1.25
could fill that same 20-ounce bottle with our tap water every day
for
more than
10 years for that same $1.25."

I wish they'd charge a 25cent deposit for every plastic bottle
sold.

"Bottled Water" in Ontario, will soon be a thing of the past.
Thank
Gawd....

It's outlawed in Halifax Municipal offices& meetings.
Province has been talking about the same thing.

The utility of bottled water is imeasurable. Freezing water to make
ice
cubes is a waste of a valuable resource when the ice is put into a
cooler. Freezing bottles of water to use as "ice" in a cooler
doesn't
waste the water. Besides there is plenty of oil around to continue
to
make the plastic bottles.

Well, that just means you're putting that bottle on which you paid a
deposit to
good use. That's much better than trashing it alongside the road or
in the bay.

Littering is a separate issue. Do you think we should have a deposit
on all containers, wrappers and cups?
I fish out all the trash I see in the river and I get as many ice
bags, subway bags and styrofoam cups as I do beverage containers.
Water bottles are really fairly rare.

Right now my hangup is with plastic bottles. Some places are already
charging
for plastic bags, and I've no problem with that either. Biodegradable
containers are OK.


This will give you a stroke for sure, herring, but I agree with you...


Last year one of our major grocery stores started charging for their
flimsy plastic bags. They expected you to buy the larger sacks for
multiple re-uses.
Trouble is, their competition didn't, and still provided better quality
plastic bags...so the 1st store reverted to the previous practice.
note: the bags cost the store around a penny each, but then charged the
customers a nickel per.
The big 'permanent' bags cost a dollar... you just have to remember to
put them back in the car each time.
And wash them. Disgusting...

Huh?
What do you carry in yours... your socks?

Interesting...
 

On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 22:01:33 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 20:43:55 -0400, Larry wrote:

The big 'permanent' bags cost a dollar... you just have to remember to
put them back in the car each time.
And wash them. Disgusting...

Yeah, one serious advantage to the plastic bag is you can separate
your foods. You really don't want your fresh fruit in a bag that has a
leaky chicken package in it or one that had one in it yesterday.
That woven fabric is a science fair project if you are not washing it
with bleach EVERY time you use it.
The other issue would be the chemicals you typically buy at the store.
Make sure you don't use the same bag for groceries that you use when
you are buying insecticide at Home Depot.

Paper bags and woven bags. How we did it before the plastic bags.

Interesting...
 

In article ,
says...

"Larry" wrote in message
...
YukonBound wrote:


"Harry" wrote in message
m...
On 6/14/10 3:56 PM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:40:00 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 18:55:11 -0400, John
wrote:

On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 15:14:08 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

wrote in message
...
On Jun 11, 8:12 pm, John wrote:
" "?a Fairfax Water customer who buys a 20-ounce bottle of water
for
$1.25
could fill that same 20-ounce bottle with our tap water every day
for
more than
10 years for that same $1.25."

I wish they'd charge a 25cent deposit for every plastic bottle
sold.

"Bottled Water" in Ontario, will soon be a thing of the past.
Thank
Gawd....

It's outlawed in Halifax Municipal offices& meetings.
Province has been talking about the same thing.

The utility of bottled water is imeasurable. Freezing water to make
ice
cubes is a waste of a valuable resource when the ice is put into a
cooler. Freezing bottles of water to use as "ice" in a cooler
doesn't
waste the water. Besides there is plenty of oil around to continue
to
make the plastic bottles.

Well, that just means you're putting that bottle on which you paid a
deposit to
good use. That's much better than trashing it alongside the road or
in the bay.

Littering is a separate issue. Do you think we should have a deposit
on all containers, wrappers and cups?
I fish out all the trash I see in the river and I get as many ice
bags, subway bags and styrofoam cups as I do beverage containers.
Water bottles are really fairly rare.

Right now my hangup is with plastic bottles. Some places are already
charging
for plastic bags, and I've no problem with that either. Biodegradable
containers are OK.


This will give you a stroke for sure, herring, but I agree with you...


Last year one of our major grocery stores started charging for their
flimsy plastic bags. They expected you to buy the larger sacks for
multiple re-uses.
Trouble is, their competition didn't, and still provided better quality
plastic bags...so the 1st store reverted to the previous practice.
note: the bags cost the store around a penny each, but then charged the
customers a nickel per.
The big 'permanent' bags cost a dollar... you just have to remember to
put them back in the car each time.
And wash them. Disgusting...

Huh?
What do you carry in yours... your socks?

Little buddy, I know your not as smart, worldly, debonair, and
sophisticated as I, a Yale graduate, but you have to stop and think. A
leaky meat package and that "permanent" bag could be contaminated with
all sorts of things, salmonella being one. Then, next time, you get some
fresh fruit, and eat it, guess what?

Interesting...
 

On 6/16/10 9:07 AM, Harry wrote:


Little buddy, I know your not as smart...


"...your..."

More evidence that the ID spoofer is dumfoch Loogy, breaker of the arms
of little girls.

The word you want is you're, the contraction for you are.

Interesting...
 

In article ,
says...

On 6/16/10 9:07 AM, Harry wrote:


Little buddy, I know your not as smart...


"...your..."

More evidence that the ID spoofer is dumfoch Loogy, breaker of the arms
of little girls.

The word you want is you're, the contraction for you are.

Spoofer alert! Everyone knows that my little buddy Don is the newsgroup
typo and grammar policewoman.

Interesting...
 

On 6/16/10 9:49 AM, Harry wrote:
you're, the contraction for you are.

Spoofer alert!

Sorry, Loogy...we don't post via eternal-september.org!

Interesting...
 

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 06:49:50 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 22:01:33 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 20:43:55 -0400, Larry wrote:

The big 'permanent' bags cost a dollar... you just have to remember to
put them back in the car each time.
And wash them. Disgusting...

Yeah, one serious advantage to the plastic bag is you can separate
your foods. You really don't want your fresh fruit in a bag that has a
leaky chicken package in it or one that had one in it yesterday.
That woven fabric is a science fair project if you are not washing it
with bleach EVERY time you use it.
The other issue would be the chemicals you typically buy at the store.
Make sure you don't use the same bag for groceries that you use when
you are buying insecticide at Home Depot.

Paper bags and woven bags. How we did it before the plastic bags.

I remember paper, we threw them away when we were done with them.
When they got wet they are useless. It is so bad it was a metaphor.
(couldn't punch your way out of a wet paper bag)
Never saw a woven grocery bag until a few years ago.

Paper in plastic.. Yep, we get both. My dad insisted on in and he always
got his own way;) and the wife likes them for the cat box remnants...

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!

Interesting...
 

On 6/16/10 2:44 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 06:49:50 -0400, John
wrote:

On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 22:01:33 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 20:43:55 -0400, wrote:

The big 'permanent' bags cost a dollar... you just have to remember to
put them back in the car each time.
And wash them. Disgusting...

Yeah, one serious advantage to the plastic bag is you can separate
your foods. You really don't want your fresh fruit in a bag that has a
leaky chicken package in it or one that had one in it yesterday.
That woven fabric is a science fair project if you are not washing it
with bleach EVERY time you use it.
The other issue would be the chemicals you typically buy at the store.
Make sure you don't use the same bag for groceries that you use when
you are buying insecticide at Home Depot.

Paper bags and woven bags. How we did it before the plastic bags.

I remember paper, we threw them away when we were done with them.
When they got wet they are useless. It is so bad it was a metaphor.
(couldn't punch your way out of a wet paper bag)
Never saw a woven grocery bag until a few years ago.

Paper in plastic.. Yep, we get both. My dad insisted on in and he always
got his own way;) and the wife likes them for the cat box remnants...


Your food bank gives you groceries double-bagged in paper and plastic?

Interesting...
 

On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 12:48:21 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 06:49:50 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 22:01:33 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 20:43:55 -0400, Larry wrote:

The big 'permanent' bags cost a dollar... you just have to remember to
put them back in the car each time.
And wash them. Disgusting...

Yeah, one serious advantage to the plastic bag is you can separate
your foods. You really don't want your fresh fruit in a bag that has a
leaky chicken package in it or one that had one in it yesterday.
That woven fabric is a science fair project if you are not washing it
with bleach EVERY time you use it.
The other issue would be the chemicals you typically buy at the store.
Make sure you don't use the same bag for groceries that you use when
you are buying insecticide at Home Depot.

Paper bags and woven bags. How we did it before the plastic bags.

I remember paper, we threw them away when we were done with them.
When they got wet they are useless. It is so bad it was a metaphor.
(couldn't punch your way out of a wet paper bag)
Never saw a woven grocery bag until a few years ago.

They were biodegradable too. And, they soak up bacon and country fried steak
grease much better than plastic. Wouldn't woven include baskets?

Interesting...
 

YukonBound wrote:


"Larry" wrote in message
...
YukonBound wrote:


"Harry" wrote in message
m...
On 6/14/10 3:56 PM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:40:00 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 18:55:11 -0400, John
wrote:

On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 15:14:08 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

wrote in message
...

On Jun 11, 8:12 pm, John wrote:
" "?a Fairfax Water customer who buys a 20-ounce bottle of
water for
$1.25
could fill that same 20-ounce bottle with our tap water
every day for
more than
10 years for that same $1.25."

I wish they'd charge a 25cent deposit for every plastic
bottle sold.

"Bottled Water" in Ontario, will soon be a thing of the past.
Thank
Gawd....

It's outlawed in Halifax Municipal offices& meetings.
Province has been talking about the same thing.

The utility of bottled water is imeasurable. Freezing water to
make ice
cubes is a waste of a valuable resource when the ice is put into a
cooler. Freezing bottles of water to use as "ice" in a cooler
doesn't
waste the water. Besides there is plenty of oil around to
continue to
make the plastic bottles.

Well, that just means you're putting that bottle on which you
paid a deposit to
good use. That's much better than trashing it alongside the road
or in the bay.

Littering is a separate issue. Do you think we should have a deposit
on all containers, wrappers and cups?
I fish out all the trash I see in the river and I get as many ice
bags, subway bags and styrofoam cups as I do beverage containers.
Water bottles are really fairly rare.

Right now my hangup is with plastic bottles. Some places are
already charging
for plastic bags, and I've no problem with that either.
Biodegradable
containers are OK.


This will give you a stroke for sure, herring, but I agree with you...


Last year one of our major grocery stores started charging for their
flimsy plastic bags. They expected you to buy the larger sacks for
multiple re-uses.
Trouble is, their competition didn't, and still provided better
quality plastic bags...so the 1st store reverted to the previous
practice.
note: the bags cost the store around a penny each, but then charged
the customers a nickel per.
The big 'permanent' bags cost a dollar... you just have to remember
to put them back in the car each time.
And wash them. Disgusting...

Huh?
What do you carry in yours... your socks?
Meat, poultry, pork, seafood... I don't go to the grocery store but my
wife insists on using those things. They are washable.