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On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 21:52:34 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 18:59:44 -0400, John H
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On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 15:14:08 -0400, BAR wrote:

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On Jun 11, 8:12 pm, John H wrote:
" "?a Fairfax Water customer who buys a 20-ounce bottle of water for
$1.25
could fill that same 20-ounce bottle with our tap water every day for
more than
10 years for that same $1.25."

I wish they'd charge a 25cent deposit for every plastic bottle sold.

"Bottled Water" in Ontario, will soon be a thing of the past. Thank
Gawd....

It's outlawed in Halifax Municipal offices & meetings.
Province has been talking about the same thing.

The utility of bottled water is imeasurable. Freezing water to make ice
cubes is a waste of a valuable resource when the ice is put into a
cooler. Freezing bottles of water to use as "ice" in a cooler doesn't
waste the water. Besides there is plenty of oil around to continue to
make the plastic bottles.

Well, that just means you're putting that bottle on which you paid a deposit to
good use. That's much better than trashing it alongside the road or in the bay.

Littering is a separate issue. Do you think we should have a deposit
on all containers, wrappers and cups?
I fish out all the trash I see in the river and I get as many ice
bags, subway bags and styrofoam cups as I do beverage containers.
Water bottles are really fairly rare.

Right now my hangup is with plastic bottles. Some places are already charging
for plastic bags, and I've no problem with that either. Biodegradable
containers are OK.

I know that they used to say the grocery (plastic) bags were
biodegradable and the sun would turn them to dust in a few months. I
am now sure what happened to that.. Again, grocery bags are not the
ones I see in the water most of the time. It is ice bags.

My real problem with deposits is that the deposit does not actually
cover the cost of handling the empties, even with the 50% premium the
merchant gets when he turns them in so it just becomes an additional
tax on the cost of the product when he passes that cost on.

Then the deposit should be high enough to cover the cost. Here we recycle
plastic, and the county picks it up. Our taxes are already being used for
recycling. I'd rather see them used for picking up the plastic at grocery
stores. I believe there'd be a lot less of it to pick up.

The problem is that would raise the cost of all bottled drinks about
$1.50 a six pack.
The 50% adder to the deposit is invisible to the buyer, except in the
price of the drink. He pays a dime deposit, the merchant gives him
back a dime when he brings it back and the people who handle the
bottles coming back give the retailer 15 cents. That nickel is buried
in the purchase price somewhere. It is still not enough to cover the
cost of recycling the bottle. That is passed on to the consumer
somewhere, usually in your taxes if the government handles the
recycling as it does in most places.

Nope. The people handling the bottles coming back to the store pay the store
nothing. They simply haul them to the recycle point, dumping the dumpster or
whatever is used. Like I said, I'm already being taxed for recycling the plastic
bottles. I believe a deposit would reduce the amount of plastic bottle demand,
especially for water.