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More electric power for the Johnson Sea Horse 85....
I'm doing some thinking. I'm not a slave to fashion, but I am to
function. There's enough shaft space on the top of my v4's flywheel to mount another pulley, and I'm considering mounting about a 50-75 amp 12volt alternator on an external bracket and running a belt though the cowling. The reason why is because the meager 10 amp stator on the engine itself jsut isn't going to cut it. I can modify the brackets so the external alternator is independant of being under the hood with the gas fumes. I know the 85 will suck gas anyhow, so what's a bit extra drag? And I know the contraption will look like a tumr hanging off the side or rear of the engine, but I can do some specific cowling work to modify it so it isnt' so 'tacky' . Even Rube Goldberg had good ideas... sometimes. But also like what Gfretwell pointed out, once can make a charging system off a small gasoline lawnmower engine contraption. I've done this too. But there are some really neat, small and highly efficient alternators ont he market noow that have less drag of horspower to produce the same amount of wattage as apposed to even the automotive units made 20 years ago. In other words, I can make a simple 30 amp, self regulated unit run off a 40cc chain-saw engine.and the exhaust can be quieted down so you don't hear all the buzzing racket, and this can be an advantage because both engines would share the same fuel mixture. OR, I might ust go by an 1800w gasoline inverter power pack. Even though they may not go very far, the wheels are turning |
More electric power for the Johnson Sea Horse 85....
On 4/30/10 8:57 AM, Tim wrote:
I'm doing some thinking. I'm not a slave to fashion, but I am to function. There's enough shaft space on the top of my v4's flywheel to mount another pulley, and I'm considering mounting about a 50-75 amp 12volt alternator on an external bracket and running a belt though the cowling. The reason why is because the meager 10 amp stator on the engine itself jsut isn't going to cut it. I can modify the brackets so the external alternator is independant of being under the hood with the gas fumes. I know the 85 will suck gas anyhow, so what's a bit extra drag? And I know the contraption will look like a tumr hanging off the side or rear of the engine, but I can do some specific cowling work to modify it so it isnt' so 'tacky' . Even Rube Goldberg had good ideas... sometimes. But also like what Gfretwell pointed out, once can make a charging system off a small gasoline lawnmower engine contraption. I've done this too. But there are some really neat, small and highly efficient alternators ont he market noow that have less drag of horspower to produce the same amount of wattage as apposed to even the automotive units made 20 years ago. In other words, I can make a simple 30 amp, self regulated unit run off a 40cc chain-saw engine.and the exhaust can be quieted down so you don't hear all the buzzing racket, and this can be an advantage because both engines would share the same fuel mixture. OR, I might ust go by an 1800w gasoline inverter power pack. Even though they may not go very far, the wheels are turning http://tinyurl.com/2ejjkbb About a grand, Honda, quiet, works...no experimentation needed. Unlikely to get you pulled over by Homeland Security types who think that device you built and plopped on your boat is a detonator for a nuclear device. -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name. |
More electric power for the Johnson Sea Horse 85....
On Apr 30, 9:07*am, hk wrote:
On 4/30/10 8:57 AM, Tim wrote: I'm doing some thinking. I'm not a slave to fashion, but I am to function. There's enough shaft space on the top of my v4's flywheel to mount another pulley, and I'm considering mounting about a 50-75 amp 12volt alternator on an external bracket and running a belt though the cowling. The reason why is because the meager 10 amp stator on the engine itself jsut isn't going to cut it. I can modify the brackets so the external alternator is independant of being under the hood with the gas fumes. I know the 85 will suck gas anyhow, so what's a bit extra drag? And I know the contraption will look like a tumr hanging off the side or rear of the engine, but I can do some specific cowling work to modify it so it isnt' so 'tacky' . *Even Rube Goldberg had good ideas... sometimes. But also like what *Gfretwell pointed out, once can make a charging system off a small gasoline lawnmower engine contraption. I've done this too. But there are some really neat, small and highly efficient alternators ont he market noow that have less drag of horspower to produce the same amount of wattage as apposed to even the automotive units made 20 years ago. In other words, I can make a simple 30 amp, self regulated unit run off a 40cc chain-saw engine.and the exhaust can be quieted down so you don't hear all the buzzing racket, and this can be an advantage because both engines would share the same fuel mixture. OR, I might ust go by an 1800w gasoline inverter power pack. Even though they may not go very far, the wheels are turning http://tinyurl.com/2ejjkbb About a grand, Honda, quiet, works...no experimentation needed. Unlikely to get you pulled over by Homeland Security types who think that device you built and plopped on your boat is a detonator for a nuclear device. -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Built and plopped on? Just because you have absolutely no mechanical skills doesn't mean that someone else doesn't. |
More electric power for the Johnson Sea Horse 85....
On Apr 30, 8:07*am, hk wrote:
On 4/30/10 8:57 AM, Tim wrote: I'm doing some thinking. I'm not a slave to fashion, but I am to function. There's enough shaft space on the top of my v4's flywheel to mount another pulley, and I'm considering mounting about a 50-75 amp 12volt alternator on an external bracket and running a belt though the cowling. The reason why is because the meager 10 amp stator on the engine itself jsut isn't going to cut it. I can modify the brackets so the external alternator is independant of being under the hood with the gas fumes. I know the 85 will suck gas anyhow, so what's a bit extra drag? And I know the contraption will look like a tumr hanging off the side or rear of the engine, but I can do some specific cowling work to modify it so it isnt' so 'tacky' . *Even Rube Goldberg had good ideas... sometimes. But also like what *Gfretwell pointed out, once can make a charging system off a small gasoline lawnmower engine contraption. I've done this too. But there are some really neat, small and highly efficient alternators ont he market noow that have less drag of horspower to produce the same amount of wattage as apposed to even the automotive units made 20 years ago. In other words, I can make a simple 30 amp, self regulated unit run off a 40cc chain-saw engine.and the exhaust can be quieted down so you don't hear all the buzzing racket, and this can be an advantage because both engines would share the same fuel mixture. OR, I might ust go by an 1800w gasoline inverter power pack. Even though they may not go very far, the wheels are turning http://tinyurl.com/2ejjkbb About a grand, Honda, quiet, works...no experimentation needed. Unlikely to get you pulled over by Homeland Security types who think that device you built and plopped on your boat is a detonator for a nuclear device. -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Thanks for the suggestion, Harry. but I'd just as soon make something. I mean, I have the parts and it is in my line of work, and I'm an auto- electric mechanic so..... It just seems I should be able to come up with something I know about instead of paying a wad for somebody's stuff. And I believe I can do it for a 10th of what that Honda would run....if not less. Like I mentioned. I'm not a slave to fashion, and we're going places where fish poop, and not a gala outing at the Yacht Club. Besides, if it goes overboard, there's no real loss, but the Honda? I'd probably have to go diving for that one. |
More electric power for the Johnson Sea Horse 85....
On Apr 30, 8:56*am, Loogypicker wrote:
On Apr 30, 9:07*am, hk wrote: On 4/30/10 8:57 AM, Tim wrote: I'm doing some thinking. I'm not a slave to fashion, but I am to function. There's enough shaft space on the top of my v4's flywheel to mount another pulley, and I'm considering mounting about a 50-75 amp 12volt alternator on an external bracket and running a belt though the cowling. The reason why is because the meager 10 amp stator on the engine itself jsut isn't going to cut it. I can modify the brackets so the external alternator is independant of being under the hood with the gas fumes. I know the 85 will suck gas anyhow, so what's a bit extra drag? And I know the contraption will look like a tumr hanging off the side or rear of the engine, but I can do some specific cowling work to modify it so it isnt' so 'tacky' . *Even Rube Goldberg had good ideas... sometimes. But also like what *Gfretwell pointed out, once can make a charging system off a small gasoline lawnmower engine contraption. I've done this too. But there are some really neat, small and highly efficient alternators ont he market noow that have less drag of horspower to produce the same amount of wattage as apposed to even the automotive units made 20 years ago. In other words, I can make a simple 30 amp, self regulated unit run off a 40cc chain-saw engine.and the exhaust can be quieted down so you don't hear all the buzzing racket, and this can be an advantage because both engines would share the same fuel mixture. OR, I might ust go by an 1800w gasoline inverter power pack. Even though they may not go very far, the wheels are turning http://tinyurl.com/2ejjkbb About a grand, Honda, quiet, works...no experimentation needed. Unlikely to get you pulled over by Homeland Security types who think that device you built and plopped on your boat is a detonator for a nuclear device. -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name..- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Built and plopped on? Just because you have absolutely no mechanical skills doesn't mean that someone else doesn't.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I think this sums it up, Loog. "Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorius triumphs, even though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat. " Theodore Roosevelt |
More electric power for the Johnson Sea Horse 85....
On Apr 30, 10:53*am, Tim wrote:
On Apr 30, 8:56*am, Loogypicker wrote: On Apr 30, 9:07*am, hk wrote: On 4/30/10 8:57 AM, Tim wrote: I'm doing some thinking. I'm not a slave to fashion, but I am to function. There's enough shaft space on the top of my v4's flywheel to mount another pulley, and I'm considering mounting about a 50-75 amp 12volt alternator on an external bracket and running a belt though the cowling. The reason why is because the meager 10 amp stator on the engine itself jsut isn't going to cut it. I can modify the brackets so the external alternator is independant of being under the hood with the gas fumes. I know the 85 will suck gas anyhow, so what's a bit extra drag? And I know the contraption will look like a tumr hanging off the side or rear of the engine, but I can do some specific cowling work to modify it so it isnt' so 'tacky' . *Even Rube Goldberg had good ideas... sometimes. But also like what *Gfretwell pointed out, once can make a charging system off a small gasoline lawnmower engine contraption. I've done this too. But there are some really neat, small and highly efficient alternators ont he market noow that have less drag of horspower to produce the same amount of wattage as apposed to even the automotive units made 20 years ago. In other words, I can make a simple 30 amp, self regulated unit run off a 40cc chain-saw engine.and the exhaust can be quieted down so you don't hear all the buzzing racket, and this can be an advantage because both engines would share the same fuel mixture. OR, I might ust go by an 1800w gasoline inverter power pack. Even though they may not go very far, the wheels are turning http://tinyurl.com/2ejjkbb About a grand, Honda, quiet, works...no experimentation needed. Unlikely to get you pulled over by Homeland Security types who think that device you built and plopped on your boat is a detonator for a nuclear device. -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Built and plopped on? Just because you have absolutely no mechanical skills doesn't mean that someone else doesn't.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I think this sums it up, Loog. "Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorius triumphs, even though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat. " Theodore Roosevelt- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Indeed, brother! |
More electric power for the Johnson Sea Horse 85....
Tim wrote:
I think this sums it up, Loog. "Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorius triumphs, even though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat. " Theodore Roosevelt Just figure out how many fingers that's worth before doing anything. Jim - Always count my fingers before getting brave. |
More electric power for the Johnson Sea Horse 85....
On Apr 30, 11:19*am, Jim wrote:
Tim wrote: I think this sums it up, Loog. "Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorius triumphs, even though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat. " Theodore Roosevelt Just figure out how many fingers that's worth before doing anything. Jim - Always count my fingers before getting brave. And make sure not to take a leak over the back of the boat? ?8^ 0 |
More electric power for the Johnson Sea Horse 85....
On Apr 30, 12:23*pm, Tim wrote:
On Apr 30, 11:19*am, Jim wrote: Tim wrote: I think this sums it up, Loog. "Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorius triumphs, even though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat. " Theodore Roosevelt Just figure out how many fingers that's worth before doing anything. Jim - Always count my fingers before getting brave. And make sure not to take a leak over the back of the boat? ?8^ 0 Back before college, one of the shops I worked in had a condensor charger for checking Briggs condensors. You charge it up and watch leak down then discharge because if you didn't you get a hell of a shock. Boss's kid always came in after school and thought he could mess with anything he wanted, take your tools, etc. So I charged a condensor up just before I knew he'd be there, and sat it on my steel bench. Kid comes in, and of COURSE leans over the bench and grabs said condensor, well, tried to. When a spark hit his hand when it was about half an inch away, he let out a scream and hauled ass! |
More electric power for the Johnson Sea Horse 85....
On Apr 30, 11:23*am, Tim wrote:
On Apr 30, 11:19*am, Jim wrote: Tim wrote: I think this sums it up, Loog. "Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorius triumphs, even though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat. " Theodore Roosevelt Just figure out how many fingers that's worth before doing anything. Jim - Always count my fingers before getting brave. And make sure not to take a leak over the back of the boat? ?8^ 0 http://www.break.com/index/moron-pee...ric-fence.html |
More electric power for the Johnson Sea Horse 85....
On Apr 30, 5:00*pm, I am Tosk wrote:
In article ef0a7504-84c1-4250-a554- , says... On Apr 30, 12:23*pm, Tim wrote: On Apr 30, 11:19*am, Jim wrote: Tim wrote: I think this sums it up, Loog. "Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorius triumphs, even though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat. " Theodore Roosevelt Just figure out how many fingers that's worth before doing anything.. Jim - Always count my fingers before getting brave. And make sure not to take a leak over the back of the boat? ?8^ 0 Back before college, one of the shops I worked in had a condensor charger for checking Briggs condensors. You charge it up and watch leak down then discharge because if you didn't you get a hell of a shock. Boss's kid always came in after school and thought he could mess with anything he wanted, take your tools, etc. So I charged a condensor up just before I knew he'd be there, and sat it on my steel bench. Kid comes in, and of COURSE leans over the bench and grabs said condensor, well, tried to. When a spark hit his hand when it was about half an inch away, he let out a scream and hauled ass! We had a Dr. Science type when I grew up. He made a condenser from cardboard, wax paper, and copper if I remember correctly. He would charge it with the transformer from his Lionel train set and bring it to school. He could touch your leg with the thing and you would jump clean out of your chair. One day at a smoke out in his basement I saw him sitting across the room. He pulled up this three foot plastic cannon and fired it right at me. The carefully rolled garbage bag he had as a projectile came flying out and opened like a parachute about half way across the room, right in front of me, and lightly settled to the floor.. Frekin, blew me away... Distilled his own petroleum and did the human blow torch thing, he could spit a flame about 15 feet up... Oh well, we are well into the racing season and The Mouse is just amazing on the 250. Came in fifth over all last weekend in her first supercross race, she loves supercross, doing it again tomorrow. Two pros came up to us yesterday during practice and told us her improvement is amazing, she has already dropped 20+ seconds off the long track time in just three weeks of being back at it... I am in awe really, as are most others. The competition stands there and watches her practice like deer in headlights, something is clicking this season and of course the Suspension, and engine builder have helped a bit too;) Not to mention all that time in the gym over the off season... Whooo hoo, I am looking pretty good out there too from what I am told for a noob, can't wait till the fall season so I can race a bit too;) Two stroke baby! BWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! -- Rowdy Mouse Racing - Racing for Raegen this weekend, come back soon 007! !- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Cool! Sometimes it all boils down to really, really WANTING something. |
More electric power for the Johnson Sea Horse 85....
On May 1, 11:36*pm, wrote:
On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 05:57:53 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: I'm doing some thinking. I'm not a slave to fashion, but I am to function. There's enough shaft space on the top of my v4's flywheel to mount another pulley, and I'm considering mounting about a 50-75 amp 12volt alternator on an external bracket and running a belt though the cowling. The reason why is because the meager 10 amp stator on the engine itself jsut isn't going to cut it. I can modify the brackets so the external alternator is independant of being under the hood with the gas fumes. I know the 85 will suck gas anyhow, so what's a bit extra drag? Why not just get a spider coupler and mount it directly above the crankshaft. Then you could lift it straight up and remove the cowling. Less danger of finger damage too. Put a little top hat cover over it with slots so it will breathe. You would have to build some kind of bracket but you were doing that anyway. Set the alternator down on studs and tighten it down with castle nuts and cotter pins. Greg, I'd considered a love-joy connection, but there's a lot of alignment issues and vibration issues, plus the extra bracing etc, so I had to rule that idea out. but I will confess it would make a neater package. However I didn't totally strike the idea. With some of the newer and more compact units like the 45 amp Nippon Denso internal fan alternators that run very smooth and are at least 40% smaller than the old Delco 10-SI. |
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