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hk April 29th 10 02:28 AM

Canadians lead longer, healthier lives than Americans
 

Contact: Graeme Baldwin

44-020-319-22165
BioMed Central
Canadians lead longer, healthier lives than Americans

Compared to their neighbours south of the border, Canadians live longer,
healthier lives. Research published in BioMed Central's open access
journal Population Health Metrics has found this disparity between the
two countries, suggesting that America's lack of universal health care
and lower levels of social and economic equality are to blame.

David Feeny, from Kaiser Permanente Center for Health Research, Oregon,
USA, worked with a team of American researchers to study data from the
Joint Canada/United States Survey of Health 2002/03. He said, "Canada
and the US share a common border and enjoy very similar standards of
living, yet life expectancy in Canada is higher than in the US. There
are two distinct potential explanations for the gap: differences in
access to health care and in the prevalence of poverty".

Canadians have a universal 'prenatal to grave' health service, which is
free at point of care, while Americans' access to health insurance is
typically based on employment, income (Medicaid), or age (Medicare), and
is not universal. The degree of social inequality is also more
pronounced in the US. The researchers found that Canadians can expect
2.7 more years of 'perfect health' than Americans – more than half of
the gap found between the richest and poorest people in Canada. Speaking
about the results, Feeny said, "The difference in health between the two
countries seems to be associated with substantial differences in access
to care as well as substantial differences in social and economic
inequality. Yet distinguishing among the potential explanations for the
differences in health between the two countries would require
longitudinal data. Perhaps it is time for Canada and the US to
contemplate a joint longitudinal survey."

###

Notes to Editors

1. Comparing population health in the United States and Canada
David H Feeny, Mark S. Kaplan, Nathalie Huguet and Bentson H McFarland
Population Health Metrics (in press)

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http://www.pophealthmetrics.com/imed...?random=336774

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2. Population Health Metrics is an Open Access, peer-reviewed, online
journal addressing all aspects of measurement of the health of populations.

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bpuharic April 29th 10 03:04 AM

Canadians lead longer, healthier lives than Americans
 
On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 21:28:01 -0400, hk
wrote:


Contact: Graeme Baldwin

44-020-319-22165
BioMed Central
Canadians lead longer, healthier lives than Americans


i thought they all died at the age of 10 from their socialistic
communistic healthcare system!!

bpuharic April 29th 10 11:12 AM

Canadians lead longer, healthier lives than Americans
 
On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 21:16:12 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 28/04/2010 7:28 PM, hk wrote:

Contact: Graeme Baldwin

44-020-319-22165
BioMed Central
Canadians lead longer, healthier lives than Americans

Compared to their neighbours south of the border, Canadians live longer,
healthier lives. Research published in BioMed Central's open access
journal Population Health Metrics has found this disparity between the
two countries, suggesting that America's lack of universal health care
and lower levels of social and economic equality are to blame.


Probably true but for the assumption it is health care.

Fewer Canadians can afford drugs, weed, booze and smokes.


any proof? what's the purchasing power parity of canada vs the US?
it's a simple measure. what is it?

Lower wages,
higher gasoline costs and higher taxes make us walk more.


again, where's the proof? the canadian dollar has appreciated 25%
against the US dollar because your govt regulated the free market and
ours didnt.

bpuharic April 29th 10 11:12 AM

Canadians lead longer, healthier lives than Americans
 
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 00:23:13 -0400, wrote:




If we were having this conversation in a different context the left
would say it is because the Canadians don't have 100,000,000 (one for
each of BPs oppressed middle classers) guns.

Funny how the argument will change depending on the agenda.
I have already presented data that the uninsured really just die in a
rate of a couple more per 100,000, a statistical dead heat,
particularly when you take out the guns, drugs and lifestyle
differences.



i notice that those who have health insurance and say it's useless

never give it up. strange, isn't i?

bpuharic April 29th 10 11:32 AM

Canadians lead longer, healthier lives than Americans
 
On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 21:16:12 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 28/04/2010 7:28 PM, hk wrote:

Contact: Graeme Baldwin

44-020-319-22165
BioMed Central
Canadians lead longer, healthier lives than Americans

Compared to their neighbours south of the border, Canadians live longer,
healthier lives. Research published in BioMed Central's open access
journal Population Health Metrics has found this disparity between the
two countries, suggesting that America's lack of universal health care
and lower levels of social and economic equality are to blame.


Probably true but for the assumption it is health care.

Fewer Canadians can afford drugs, weed, booze and smokes. Lower wages,
higher gasoline costs and higher taxes make us walk more.

More excercise shoveling snow as few of us can afford snow blowers. And
we get more snow. Many row canoes because they be cheaper than 225 HP
inboards.


what's funny about the right is that when they talk about 'socilalist'
changes to US healthcare, they preach our healthcare is PERFECT. it's
FREE MARKET. we have the BEST.

when it's shown this isnt true, then healthcare is USELESS. you dont
NEED IT...

propganda...not facts...is what the right preaches.

Canuck57[_9_] April 29th 10 01:15 PM

Canadians lead longer, healthier lives than Americans
 
On 28/04/2010 10:23 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 21:16:12 -0600,
wrote:

On 28/04/2010 7:28 PM, hk wrote:

Contact: Graeme Baldwin

44-020-319-22165
BioMed Central
Canadians lead longer, healthier lives than Americans

Compared to their neighbours south of the border, Canadians live longer,
healthier lives. Research published in BioMed Central's open access
journal Population Health Metrics has found this disparity between the
two countries, suggesting that America's lack of universal health care
and lower levels of social and economic equality are to blame.


Probably true but for the assumption it is health care.

Fewer Canadians can afford drugs, weed, booze and smokes. Lower wages,
higher gasoline costs and higher taxes make us walk more.

More excercise shoveling snow as few of us can afford snow blowers. And
we get more snow. Many row canoes because they be cheaper than 225 HP
inboards.



If we were having this conversation in a different context the left
would say it is because the Canadians don't have 100,000,000 (one for
each of BPs oppressed middle classers) guns.

Funny how the argument will change depending on the agenda.
I have already presented data that the uninsured really just die in a
rate of a couple more per 100,000, a statistical dead heat,
particularly when you take out the guns, drugs and lifestyle
differences.


So many variables for the difference, you know making it "health care"
is BS. Pure utter BS. But there is the gullable weak minded who don't
question other peoples motives for such bull****.

Ya, we have gun control. Criminals and government have them but the
honest sheep...not as many. Many believe it is why we have twice as
many house break in per capitata. That and the turnstile justice for
the crime.

And would bet you are more likely to get knifed in Canada. In fact
blood is drying as I speak on one of the public transit platforms in
this so called safe city. I think I felt safer in Chicago.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/calgary/sto...ty-ctrain.html

This one is fresh off the press. Knives have the advantage of being quiet.

http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/Pa...175/story.html

Even had stuff like people runnign a SUV into a bar....

People kill people. Guns, cars, bats, knives, hatchets, poison are just
the tools.

--
Socialism and statism are great as long as someone else pays for it.

Canuck57[_9_] April 29th 10 01:15 PM

Canadians lead longer, healthier lives than Americans
 
On 29/04/2010 4:12 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 00:23:13 -0400, wrote:




If we were having this conversation in a different context the left
would say it is because the Canadians don't have 100,000,000 (one for
each of BPs oppressed middle classers) guns.

Funny how the argument will change depending on the agenda.
I have already presented data that the uninsured really just die in a
rate of a couple more per 100,000, a statistical dead heat,
particularly when you take out the guns, drugs and lifestyle
differences.



i notice that those who have health insurance and say it's useless

never give it up. strange, isn't i?


I take it then you don't have health care insurance.

--
Socialism and statism are great as long as someone else pays for it.

hk April 29th 10 01:19 PM

Canadians lead longer, healthier lives than Americans
 
On 4/29/10 8:15 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 28/04/2010 10:23 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 21:16:12 -0600,
wrote:

On 28/04/2010 7:28 PM, hk wrote:

Contact: Graeme Baldwin

44-020-319-22165
BioMed Central
Canadians lead longer, healthier lives than Americans

Compared to their neighbours south of the border, Canadians live
longer,
healthier lives. Research published in BioMed Central's open access
journal Population Health Metrics has found this disparity between the
two countries, suggesting that America's lack of universal health care
and lower levels of social and economic equality are to blame.

Probably true but for the assumption it is health care.

Fewer Canadians can afford drugs, weed, booze and smokes. Lower wages,
higher gasoline costs and higher taxes make us walk more.

More excercise shoveling snow as few of us can afford snow blowers. And
we get more snow. Many row canoes because they be cheaper than 225 HP
inboards.



If we were having this conversation in a different context the left
would say it is because the Canadians don't have 100,000,000 (one for
each of BPs oppressed middle classers) guns.

Funny how the argument will change depending on the agenda.
I have already presented data that the uninsured really just die in a
rate of a couple more per 100,000, a statistical dead heat,
particularly when you take out the guns, drugs and lifestyle
differences.


So many variables for the difference, you know making it "health care"
is BS. Pure utter BS. But there is the gullable weak minded who don't
question other peoples motives for such bull****.

Ya, we have gun control. Criminals and government have them but the
honest sheep...not as many. Many believe it is why we have twice as many
house break in per capitata. That and the turnstile justice for the crime.

And would bet you are more likely to get knifed in Canada. In fact blood
is drying as I speak on one of the public transit platforms in this so
called safe city. I think I felt safer in Chicago.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/calgary/sto...ty-ctrain.html


This one is fresh off the press. Knives have the advantage of being quiet.

http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/Pa...175/story.html


Even had stuff like people runnign a SUV into a bar....

People kill people. Guns, cars, bats, knives, hatchets, poison are just
the tools.



Almost every time you post here, you rant and rave like a lunatic. No
wonder you can't keep a job.

--
The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name.

Canuck57[_9_] April 29th 10 01:24 PM

Canadians lead longer, healthier lives than Americans
 
On 29/04/2010 4:12 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 21:16:12 -0600,
wrote:

On 28/04/2010 7:28 PM, hk wrote:

Contact: Graeme Baldwin

44-020-319-22165
BioMed Central
Canadians lead longer, healthier lives than Americans

Compared to their neighbours south of the border, Canadians live longer,
healthier lives. Research published in BioMed Central's open access
journal Population Health Metrics has found this disparity between the
two countries, suggesting that America's lack of universal health care
and lower levels of social and economic equality are to blame.


Probably true but for the assumption it is health care.

Fewer Canadians can afford drugs, weed, booze and smokes.


any proof? what's the purchasing power parity of canada vs the US?
it's a simple measure. what is it?


Yep. Start with:
http://www.fraserinstitute.org/tools/Default.htm

On that web site somewhere they have a financial freedom list of all US
atates and Canadian provinces. Of the 10 Canadian provinces, we hold
the 9 bottom positions and the 10th province is much higher.

But I am not going to waste the time on you to find the exact link. You
probably wouldn't use it anyways.

Lower wages,
higher gasoline costs and higher taxes make us walk more.


again, where's the proof? the canadian dollar has appreciated 25%
against the US dollar because your govt regulated the free market and
ours didnt.



--
Socialism and statism are great as long as someone else pays for it.

Canuck57[_9_] April 29th 10 01:25 PM

Canadians lead longer, healthier lives than Americans
 
On 29/04/2010 4:32 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 21:16:12 -0600,
wrote:

On 28/04/2010 7:28 PM, hk wrote:

Contact: Graeme Baldwin

44-020-319-22165
BioMed Central
Canadians lead longer, healthier lives than Americans

Compared to their neighbours south of the border, Canadians live longer,
healthier lives. Research published in BioMed Central's open access
journal Population Health Metrics has found this disparity between the
two countries, suggesting that America's lack of universal health care
and lower levels of social and economic equality are to blame.


Probably true but for the assumption it is health care.

Fewer Canadians can afford drugs, weed, booze and smokes. Lower wages,
higher gasoline costs and higher taxes make us walk more.

More excercise shoveling snow as few of us can afford snow blowers. And
we get more snow. Many row canoes because they be cheaper than 225 HP
inboards.


what's funny about the right is that when they talk about 'socilalist'
changes to US healthcare, they preach our healthcare is PERFECT. it's
FREE MARKET. we have the BEST.

when it's shown this isnt true, then healthcare is USELESS. you dont
NEED IT...

propganda...not facts...is what the right preaches.


Given you have never traveled and lived elsewhere makes your opinion
kind of myopic and sheepish.

--
Socialism and statism are great as long as someone else pays for it.

Bill McKee April 29th 10 04:50 PM

Canadians lead longer, healthier lives than Americans
 

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 21:16:12 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 28/04/2010 7:28 PM, hk wrote:

Contact: Graeme Baldwin

44-020-319-22165
BioMed Central
Canadians lead longer, healthier lives than Americans

Compared to their neighbours south of the border, Canadians live longer,
healthier lives. Research published in BioMed Central's open access
journal Population Health Metrics has found this disparity between the
two countries, suggesting that America's lack of universal health care
and lower levels of social and economic equality are to blame.


Probably true but for the assumption it is health care.

Fewer Canadians can afford drugs, weed, booze and smokes.


any proof? what's the purchasing power parity of canada vs the US?
it's a simple measure. what is it?

Lower wages,
higher gasoline costs and higher taxes make us walk more.


again, where's the proof? the canadian dollar has appreciated 25%
against the US dollar because your govt regulated the free market and
ours didnt.


Canada has an appreciating dollar because of excess debt spending by the
USA. Plus they are a major energy exporter these days.



Bill McKee April 29th 10 04:51 PM

Canadians lead longer, healthier lives than Americans
 

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 00:23:13 -0400, wrote:




If we were having this conversation in a different context the left
would say it is because the Canadians don't have 100,000,000 (one for
each of BPs oppressed middle classers) guns.

Funny how the argument will change depending on the agenda.
I have already presented data that the uninsured really just die in a
rate of a couple more per 100,000, a statistical dead heat,
particularly when you take out the guns, drugs and lifestyle
differences.



i notice that those who have health insurance and say it's useless

never give it up. strange, isn't i?


Most of the US has health insurance. What is the cause now for the
differences.



bpuharic April 29th 10 09:08 PM

Canadians lead longer, healthier lives than Americans
 
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 06:15:59 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 29/04/2010 4:12 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 00:23:13 -0400, wrote:




If we were having this conversation in a different context the left
would say it is because the Canadians don't have 100,000,000 (one for
each of BPs oppressed middle classers) guns.

Funny how the argument will change depending on the agenda.
I have already presented data that the uninsured really just die in a
rate of a couple more per 100,000, a statistical dead heat,
particularly when you take out the guns, drugs and lifestyle
differences.



i notice that those who have health insurance and say it's useless

never give it up. strange, isn't i?


I take it then you don't have health care insurance.


i take it you can't read.


bpuharic April 29th 10 09:09 PM

Canadians lead longer, healthier lives than Americans
 
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 08:51:48 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"bpuharic" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 00:23:13 -0400, wrote:




If we were having this conversation in a different context the left
would say it is because the Canadians don't have 100,000,000 (one for
each of BPs oppressed middle classers) guns.

Funny how the argument will change depending on the agenda.
I have already presented data that the uninsured really just die in a
rate of a couple more per 100,000, a statistical dead heat,
particularly when you take out the guns, drugs and lifestyle
differences.



i notice that those who have health insurance and say it's useless

never give it up. strange, isn't i?


Most of the US has health insurance. What is the cause now for the
differences.


ROFLMAO!! 'most' is important only if you have it.




bpuharic April 29th 10 09:14 PM

Canadians lead longer, healthier lives than Americans
 
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 06:24:21 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 29/04/2010 4:12 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 21:16:12 -0600,
wrote:

On 28/04/2010 7:28 PM, hk wrote:


Fewer Canadians can afford drugs, weed, booze and smokes.


any proof? what's the purchasing power parity of canada vs the US?
it's a simple measure. what is it?


Yep. Start with: http://www.fraserinstitute.org/tools/Default.htm


actually try he

http://fx.sauder.ubc.ca/PPP.html

for the latest info. your own universities show the US dollar is
undervalue by about 14%.

problem is, we already spend 17% of our GDP on health vs 10% for you
guys. so even if we reach parity you will STILL be spending less on
healthcare than we do for a system that is more efficient

try again, right winger.


On that web site somewhere they have a financial freedom list of all US
atates and Canadian provinces. Of the 10 Canadian provinces, we hold
the 9 bottom positions and the 10th province is much higher.

But I am not going to waste the time on you to find the exact link. You
probably wouldn't use it anyways.


financial freedom is irrelevant. the relevant measure is PPP.

bpuharic April 29th 10 09:15 PM

Canadians lead longer, healthier lives than Americans
 
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 08:50:43 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"bpuharic" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 21:16:12 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:.

any proof? what's the purchasing power parity of canada vs the US?
it's a simple measure. what is it?

Lower wages,
higher gasoline costs and higher taxes make us walk more.


again, where's the proof? the canadian dollar has appreciated 25%
against the US dollar because your govt regulated the free market and
ours didnt.


Canada has an appreciating dollar because of excess debt spending by the
USA. Plus they are a major energy exporter these days.


absolutely true. the canadians didn't trust the markets like the US
did.



bpuharic April 29th 10 09:15 PM

Canadians lead longer, healthier lives than Americans
 
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 06:25:50 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 29/04/2010 4:32 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 21:16:12 -0600,
wrote:

More excercise shoveling snow as few of us can afford snow blowers. And
we get more snow. Many row canoes because they be cheaper than 225 HP
inboards.


what's funny about the right is that when they talk about 'socilalist'
changes to US healthcare, they preach our healthcare is PERFECT. it's
FREE MARKET. we have the BEST.

when it's shown this isnt true, then healthcare is USELESS. you dont
NEED IT...

propganda...not facts...is what the right preaches.


Given you have never traveled and lived elsewhere makes your opinion
kind of myopic and sheepish.


really?

when's the last time you were in korea? malaysia?



Canuck57[_9_] April 30th 10 01:49 AM

Canadians lead longer, healthier lives than Americans
 
On 29/04/2010 2:15 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 06:25:50 -0600,
wrote:

On 29/04/2010 4:32 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 21:16:12 -0600,
wrote:

More excercise shoveling snow as few of us can afford snow blowers. And
we get more snow. Many row canoes because they be cheaper than 225 HP
inboards.

what's funny about the right is that when they talk about 'socilalist'
changes to US healthcare, they preach our healthcare is PERFECT. it's
FREE MARKET. we have the BEST.

when it's shown this isnt true, then healthcare is USELESS. you dont
NEED IT...

propganda...not facts...is what the right preaches.


Given you have never traveled and lived elsewhere makes your opinion
kind of myopic and sheepish.


really?

when's the last time you were in korea? malaysia?


About 19 years ago. But I didn't live there. Thank god.

--
Socialism and statism are great as long as someone else pays for it.

bpuharic April 30th 10 02:32 AM

Canadians lead longer, healthier lives than Americans
 
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 18:49:01 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 29/04/2010 2:15 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 06:25:50 -0600,
wrote:

On 29/04/2010 4:32 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 21:16:12 -0600,
wrote:

More excercise shoveling snow as few of us can afford snow blowers. And
we get more snow. Many row canoes because they be cheaper than 225 HP
inboards.

what's funny about the right is that when they talk about 'socilalist'
changes to US healthcare, they preach our healthcare is PERFECT. it's
FREE MARKET. we have the BEST.

when it's shown this isnt true, then healthcare is USELESS. you dont
NEED IT...

propganda...not facts...is what the right preaches.

Given you have never traveled and lived elsewhere makes your opinion
kind of myopic and sheepish.


really?

when's the last time you were in korea? malaysia?


they're real countries now. high speed internet, traffic jams...fat
people...


About 19 years ago. But I didn't live there. Thank god.


CalifBill April 30th 10 05:36 AM

Canadians lead longer, healthier lives than Americans
 
On 4/29/2010 1:09 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 08:51:48 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


wrote in message
...
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 00:23:13 -0400, wrote:




If we were having this conversation in a different context the left
would say it is because the Canadians don't have 100,000,000 (one for
each of BPs oppressed middle classers) guns.

Funny how the argument will change depending on the agenda.
I have already presented data that the uninsured really just die in a
rate of a couple more per 100,000, a statistical dead heat,
particularly when you take out the guns, drugs and lifestyle
differences.


i notice that those who have health insurance and say it's useless

never give it up. strange, isn't i?


Most of the US has health insurance. What is the cause now for the
differences.


ROFLMAO!! 'most' is important only if you have it.



When they were discussing health care reform they stated 15-40 million
without insurance. 330 million or so in the US. Not a large percentage
without insurance. And if on welfare, society pays for their medical
care. Including rest homes.

CalifBill April 30th 10 05:37 AM

Canadians lead longer, healthier lives than Americans
 
On 4/29/2010 1:15 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 08:50:43 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


wrote in message
...
On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 21:16:12 -0600,
wrote:.

any proof? what's the purchasing power parity of canada vs the US?
it's a simple measure. what is it?

Lower wages,
higher gasoline costs and higher taxes make us walk more.

again, where's the proof? the canadian dollar has appreciated 25%
against the US dollar because your govt regulated the free market and
ours didnt.


Canada has an appreciating dollar because of excess debt spending by the
USA. Plus they are a major energy exporter these days.


absolutely true. the canadians didn't trust the markets like the US
did.


They probably had a bunch of the bad debt also. Or the Loonie would be
a lot higher.

CalifBill April 30th 10 05:41 AM

Canadians lead longer, healthier lives than Americans
 
On 4/29/2010 6:32 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 18:49:01 -0600,
wrote:

On 29/04/2010 2:15 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 06:25:50 -0600,
wrote:

On 29/04/2010 4:32 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 21:16:12 -0600,
wrote:

More excercise shoveling snow as few of us can afford snow blowers. And
we get more snow. Many row canoes because they be cheaper than 225 HP
inboards.

what's funny about the right is that when they talk about 'socilalist'
changes to US healthcare, they preach our healthcare is PERFECT. it's
FREE MARKET. we have the BEST.

when it's shown this isnt true, then healthcare is USELESS. you dont
NEED IT...

propganda...not facts...is what the right preaches.

Given you have never traveled and lived elsewhere makes your opinion
kind of myopic and sheepish.

really?

when's the last time you were in korea? malaysia?


they're real countries now. high speed internet, traffic jams...fat
people...


About 19 years ago. But I didn't live there. Thank god.

Keerist. Don't you ever sleep or work? Looking at the last posts in
Thunderbird I see 1:15 pm, 3:32 am, 5:49 pm, 6:32 pm. Your wife never
talk to you. Mine is in Carmel with girlfriends, and I still got out
Kayaking the local lake for a couple hours.

bpuharic April 30th 10 11:16 AM

Canadians lead longer, healthier lives than Americans
 
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 21:36:19 -0700, Califbill
wrote:

On 4/29/2010 1:09 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 08:51:48 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


wrote in message
...
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 00:23:13 -0400, wrote:



i notice that those who have health insurance and say it's useless

never give it up. strange, isn't i?

Most of the US has health insurance. What is the cause now for the
differences.


ROFLMAO!! 'most' is important only if you have it.



When they were discussing health care reform they stated 15-40 million
without insurance. 330 million or so in the US. Not a large percentage
without insurance. And if on welfare, society pays for their medical
care. Including rest homes.


and what of the unemployed? and 15-40M is a large number of human
beings.

funny how we're always willing to let someone else suffer.


nom=de=plume[_2_] April 30th 10 06:57 PM

Canadians lead longer, healthier lives than Americans
 
"bpuharic" wrote in message
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On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 21:36:19 -0700, Califbill
wrote:

On 4/29/2010 1:09 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 08:51:48 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


wrote in message
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On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 00:23:13 -0400, wrote:



i notice that those who have health insurance and say it's useless

never give it up. strange, isn't i?

Most of the US has health insurance. What is the cause now for the
differences.

ROFLMAO!! 'most' is important only if you have it.



When they were discussing health care reform they stated 15-40 million
without insurance. 330 million or so in the US. Not a large percentage
without insurance. And if on welfare, society pays for their medical
care. Including rest homes.


and what of the unemployed? and 15-40M is a large number of human
beings.

funny how we're always willing to let someone else suffer.



Bill doesn't care about other people. 15 milion people? So what!




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