On 23/04/2010 4:16 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 07:42:33 -0600,
wrote:


Now if you lose 5% or 7% purchasing power over a working career, I doubt
anyone would argue that it would buy a boat... right?

After all given Democat/Obama debt-spending is at record levels, bailing
out the inept, lazy, corrupt comes at a cost right?

actually they're protecting jobs. to the right, that's
unforgiveable...protecting the middle class. we should only protect
the rich

Only if you are in denialism. Corrupt auto jobs were lost a long time
ago. While GM was getting bailouts for it's inept business model, other
companies were laying off as GM was producing subsidized vehicles. In
2009 GM recieved over $60,000 per vehicle it made to stay in business.

What Obamanites don't want to admit is by keeping GM alive, how many
Toyota, Ford, Honda and others were laid off? How many lost their jobs
because of people worried about pending tax hikes to fund this
Obamanation?

You complain about "rich". Well how come Obama hasn't cahrged on single
executive, accountant or anyone with the GM fraud? Even though a court
has rules GM mistated financials like Enron and SOX laws exist, Obama
isn't charging anyone.

Going after Goldman, just PR to look like he is doing something. But as
per usual, just a big mouth on a soap box selling more debt-spend.

and the biggest spender in history was george bush

Right about now that shifts to Obama. Certainly by the end of the year
Obama will have racked more debt that Bush. In fact, by the end of 2010
Obama will hold the two top debtor years in American history, 2009 and 2010.

Watch, as soon as November is over, or perhaps sooner, VAT is comming to
a till near you. Unless of course you lefties wake up and smell the
coffee, which is unlikely.

You Obama supporters didn't think Obamanation was free did you?

more bitching. when the right wing comes up with a plan, let us know

they gave away middle class incomes to the rich

THEN they complain when the middle class protects itself

canuch is a racist

Think what you want. I turned on Bsh when he started the bailout
corruption. I actually had hopes that Obama would stop it. But looks
like Obama is just a bull****er.

--
Socialism and statism are great as long as someone else pays for it.

On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 17:06:32 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 23/04/2010 4:16 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 07:42:33 -0600,
wrote:


Now if you lose 5% or 7% purchasing power over a working career, I doubt
anyone would argue that it would buy a boat... right?

After all given Democat/Obama debt-spending is at record levels, bailing
out the inept, lazy, corrupt comes at a cost right?

actually they're protecting jobs. to the right, that's
unforgiveable...protecting the middle class. we should only protect
the rich

Only if you are in denialism.

gee. all i have is the evidence on my side. you have rush limballs.

wonder which shows the real picture

Corrupt auto jobs were lost a long time
ago. While GM was getting bailouts for it's inept business model, other
companies were laying off as GM was producing subsidized vehicles. In
2009 GM recieved over $60,000 per vehicle it made to stay in business.

what the hell does this have to do with unemployment? the right
winger bitcher can't even stay on point.


You complain about "rich". Well how come Obama hasn't cahrged on single
executive, accountant or anyone with the GM fraud?

ROFLMAO!!! do you REALLY thiknk the rich are gonna let ANYONE pass
laws that pierce the corporate veil???

HAHAHAHAHAH!!!

Even though a court
has rules GM mistated financials like Enron and SOX laws exist, Obama
isn't charging anyone.

GM is peanuts compared to what BoA,goldman sachs, lehman, etc. did to
the economy. they brought down the banking system. but they're rich
white guys so your view is they're gods.


and the biggest spender in history was george bush

Right about now that shifts to Obama.

great! he's doing the right thing.

Certainly by the end of the year
Obama will have racked more debt that Bush. In fact, by the end of 2010
Obama will hold the two top debtor years in American history, 2009 and 2010.

great! he's doing the right thing. bush spent when there was no reason
to spend. the right insisted on tax cuts for the rich to bankroll a
war that killed 4400 US troops.

obama's spending to protect jobs and th emiddle class

i can see why you're ****ed. the darkie president is doing what the
rich white boy couldnt'


Watch, as soon as November is over, or perhaps sooner, VAT is comming to
a till near you. Unless of course you lefties wake up and smell the
coffee, which is unlikely.

You Obama supporters didn't think Obamanation was free did you?

more bitching. when the right wing comes up with a plan, let us know

they gave away middle class incomes to the rich

THEN they complain when the middle class protects itself

canuch is a racist

Think what you want. I turned on Bsh when he started the bailout
corruption. I actually had hopes that Obama would stop it. But looks
like Obama is just a bull****er.

no you didn't. you're unable to fathom the CAUSE of the situation
we're in. you think obama's been presdient for 9 years. so you blame
it ALL on him instead of your lord god, the rich white boy

On 23/04/2010 6:09 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 17:06:32 -0600,
wrote:

On 23/04/2010 4:16 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 07:42:33 -0600,
wrote:


Now if you lose 5% or 7% purchasing power over a working career, I doubt
anyone would argue that it would buy a boat... right?

After all given Democat/Obama debt-spending is at record levels, bailing
out the inept, lazy, corrupt comes at a cost right?

actually they're protecting jobs. to the right, that's
unforgiveable...protecting the middle class. we should only protect
the rich

Only if you are in denialism.

gee. all i have is the evidence on my side. you have rush limballs.

wonder which shows the real picture

Corrupt auto jobs were lost a long time
ago. While GM was getting bailouts for it's inept business model, other
companies were laying off as GM was producing subsidized vehicles. In
2009 GM recieved over $60,000 per vehicle it made to stay in business.

what the hell does this have to do with unemployment? the right
winger bitcher can't even stay on point.


You complain about "rich". Well how come Obama hasn't cahrged on single
executive, accountant or anyone with the GM fraud?

ROFLMAO!!! do you REALLY thiknk the rich are gonna let ANYONE pass
laws that pierce the corporate veil???

HAHAHAHAHAH!!!

Even though a court
has rules GM mistated financials like Enron and SOX laws exist, Obama
isn't charging anyone.

GM is peanuts compared to what BoA,goldman sachs, lehman, etc. did to
the economy. they brought down the banking system. but they're rich
white guys so your view is they're gods.


and the biggest spender in history was george bush

Right about now that shifts to Obama.

great! he's doing the right thing.

Certainly by the end of the year
Obama will have racked more debt that Bush. In fact, by the end of 2010
Obama will hold the two top debtor years in American history, 2009 and 2010.

great! he's doing the right thing. bush spent when there was no reason
to spend. the right insisted on tax cuts for the rich to bankroll a
war that killed 4400 US troops.

obama's spending to protect jobs and th emiddle class

i can see why you're ****ed. the darkie president is doing what the
rich white boy couldnt'


Watch, as soon as November is over, or perhaps sooner, VAT is comming to
a till near you. Unless of course you lefties wake up and smell the
coffee, which is unlikely.

You Obama supporters didn't think Obamanation was free did you?

more bitching. when the right wing comes up with a plan, let us know

they gave away middle class incomes to the rich

THEN they complain when the middle class protects itself

canuch is a racist

Think what you want. I turned on Bsh when he started the bailout
corruption. I actually had hopes that Obama would stop it. But looks
like Obama is just a bull****er.

no you didn't. you're unable to fathom the CAUSE of the situation
we're in. you think obama's been presdient for 9 years. so you blame
it ALL on him instead of your lord god, the rich white boy

Just learn what VAT means. It is coming.

--
Socialism and statism are great as long as someone else pays for it.

On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 18:58:07 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 23/04/2010 6:09 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 17:06:32 -0600,
wrote:
Think what you want. I turned on Bsh when he started the bailout
corruption. I actually had hopes that Obama would stop it. But looks
like Obama is just a bull****er.

no you didn't. you're unable to fathom the CAUSE of the situation
we're in. you think obama's been presdient for 9 years. so you blame
it ALL on him instead of your lord god, the rich white boy

Just learn what VAT means. It is coming.

i hope so. it works in europe. we can learn something

you, however, can't

On 23/04/2010 7:17 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 18:58:07 -0600,
wrote:

On 23/04/2010 6:09 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 17:06:32 -0600,
wrote:
Think what you want. I turned on Bsh when he started the bailout
corruption. I actually had hopes that Obama would stop it. But looks
like Obama is just a bull****er.

no you didn't. you're unable to fathom the CAUSE of the situation
we're in. you think obama's been presdient for 9 years. so you blame
it ALL on him instead of your lord god, the rich white boy

Just learn what VAT means. It is coming.

i hope so. it works in europe. we can learn something

you, however, can't

Ever wonder why so very few Europeans, Canadians and UK people own boats?

You are about to find out. Because lets for arguments sake say it is a
even 5%. I suspect they will do 6 or 7, but say 5%.

Your purchasing power just went down 5%. Takes $1.05 to buy $1.00 of stuff.

So 1/20th of your income is gone from your use. Litterally a first
class boat in a average working career. Even auto takes a hit, as you
have 5% less to spend on the auto. In the end, 5% less autos will be sold.

And your great grandchildren not yet born will curse your debt mongering
liberal ass all to hell.

And at 5%, it still will not balance Obama's/Congress overspending.
--
Socialism and statism are great as long as someone else pays for it.

On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 20:24:00 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 23/04/2010 7:17 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 18:58:07 -0600,
wrote:

i hope so. it works in europe. we can learn something

you, however, can't

Ever wonder why so very few Europeans, Canadians and UK people own boats?

You are about to find out. Because lets for arguments sake say it is a
even 5%. I suspect they will do 6 or 7, but say 5%.

ever wonder why americans work 200 hours more than any of them? why we
dont have vacation? why we didn't have healthcare?


Your purchasing power just went down 5%. Takes $1.05 to buy $1.00 of stuff.

So 1/20th of your income is gone from your use. Litterally a first
class boat in a average working career. Even auto takes a hit, as you
have 5% less to spend on the auto. In the end, 5% less autos will be sold.

gee. my company gave no raises last year. probably none this year. the
rich did fine.


And your great grandchildren not yet born will curse your debt mongering
liberal ass all to hell.

and how would they feel if they were homeless and in the streets like
YOU advocate?

On 24/04/2010 4:45 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 20:24:00 -0600,
wrote:

On 23/04/2010 7:17 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 18:58:07 -0600,
wrote:

i hope so. it works in europe. we can learn something

you, however, can't

Ever wonder why so very few Europeans, Canadians and UK people own boats?

You are about to find out. Because lets for arguments sake say it is a
even 5%. I suspect they will do 6 or 7, but say 5%.

ever wonder why americans work 200 hours more than any of them? why we
dont have vacation? why we didn't have healthcare?

Funny. When I was in the UK I said lets go London for the weekend (from
Aberdeen) and the parents of the lady I was a courting on this dropped
their jaws. That was a major vacation to them and a weekend jaunt for me.

Depends on the life you want, at least in America you have a choice.
They don't.

Yes, I lived there too for awhile. I worked side by side with their
people. Did Stavanger Norway too. What an eye opener.

Your purchasing power just went down 5%. Takes $1.05 to buy $1.00 of stuff.

So 1/20th of your income is gone from your use. Litterally a first
class boat in a average working career. Even auto takes a hit, as you
have 5% less to spend on the auto. In the end, 5% less autos will be sold.

gee. my company gave no raises last year. probably none this year. the
rich did fine.

Will not be any for years to come, Obama is going to raise their taxes
and it will indirectly come from your wages. Tax the company more and
they will pay less. It is all interdependant. Want higher wages there
are only two ways. Get a skill that has elasticity in wages or get a
good economy that needs people. All people thrive best when
unemployment is so low employers have to treat employees right.

And your great grandchildren not yet born will curse your debt mongering
liberal ass all to hell.

and how would they feel if they were homeless and in the streets like
YOU advocate?

They might be, but hopefully some old values of depending on ones self
and fiscal conservatism will preval to prevent that.


--
Socialism and statism are great as long as someone else pays for it.

"bpuharic" wrote in message
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On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 18:58:07 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 23/04/2010 6:09 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 17:06:32 -0600,
wrote:
Think what you want. I turned on Bsh when he started the bailout
corruption. I actually had hopes that Obama would stop it. But looks
like Obama is just a bull****er.

no you didn't. you're unable to fathom the CAUSE of the situation
we're in. you think obama's been presdient for 9 years. so you blame
it ALL on him instead of your lord god, the rich white boy

Just learn what VAT means. It is coming.

i hope so. it works in europe. we can learn something

you, however, can't


It would work here, but it would have to be implemented very slowly,
otherwise the disruption would be catastrophic to the economy.

--
Nom=de=Plume

On 23/04/2010 11:44 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
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On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 18:58:07 -0600,
wrote:

On 23/04/2010 6:09 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 17:06:32 -0600,
wrote:
Think what you want. I turned on Bsh when he started the bailout
corruption. I actually had hopes that Obama would stop it. But looks
like Obama is just a bull****er.

no you didn't. you're unable to fathom the CAUSE of the situation
we're in. you think obama's been presdient for 9 years. so you blame
it ALL on him instead of your lord god, the rich white boy

Just learn what VAT means. It is coming.

i hope so. it works in europe. we can learn something

you, however, can't


It would work here, but it would have to be implemented very slowly,
otherwise the disruption would be catastrophic to the economy.

At the rate DC is doing debt, it will be abrupt. You are just sore as
you now see it is coming around your way. Did you really think
debt-spend bailouts and big governemtn out of control spending was free?

--
Socialism and statism are great as long as someone else pays for it.

"Canuck57" wrote in message
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On 23/04/2010 11:44 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 18:58:07 -0600,
wrote:

On 23/04/2010 6:09 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 17:06:32 -0600,
wrote:
Think what you want. I turned on Bsh when he started the bailout
corruption. I actually had hopes that Obama would stop it. But
looks
like Obama is just a bull****er.

no you didn't. you're unable to fathom the CAUSE of the situation
we're in. you think obama's been presdient for 9 years. so you blame
it ALL on him instead of your lord god, the rich white boy

Just learn what VAT means. It is coming.

i hope so. it works in europe. we can learn something

you, however, can't


It would work here, but it would have to be implemented very slowly,
otherwise the disruption would be catastrophic to the economy.

At the rate DC is doing debt, it will be abrupt. You are just sore as you
now see it is coming around your way. Did you really think debt-spend
bailouts and big governemtn out of control spending was free?

--
Socialism and statism are great as long as someone else pays for it.


You're just an idiot. Did I ever think otherwise? No.

--
Nom=de=Plume