"bpuharic" wrote in message
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On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 23:19:14 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:



You democriters might want to take a look at Japan for what is in sore
for the debtors of America and unwilling more consrvative types is Obama
isn't stopped with his debt-spend-debt-spend mania.

really? our economy is growing. guess that escaped your attention.


I hate to see America get flushed down the toilet for debt mongering
selfish liberal debt spending *******s.

now let's see...

you admit right wingers are big spenders

they make more debt than liberals...

yet you blame it all on obama...kind of forgetting he wasn't even born
in 29.

oh well...guess limball hasn't caught up with you guys yet

What 10% decrease in unemployment?

from 10.7 to 9.7 over obama's adminstration....

We will have a bump in employment this
quarter because of the Census. But they are minimum wage mostly and is a
short time employment. We are actually going to have a really hard time
getting employment up. When you can buy a finished product FOB your door
from a foreign manufacturer cheaper than you can buy the raw materials.
We
are in deep kimchi.

to a certain extent, we are. and that's a measure of how deeply the
right wing has hurt the US.



Maybe the unemployment went down to 9.7%, but it was a lot less than that
when Obama took over. He pushed the "Stimulus" to keep unemployment under
8%. How has that worked out?
http://www.google.com/publicdata?ds=...mployment+rate

"bpuharic" wrote in message
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On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 23:11:44 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:




I retired at 59, I watched my investments.

ah. i'm still working. i don't have the time to sit back and do my own
investments

And the tax rate on middle class
is low. Greg said he paid about $7700 on $80k. Do not know why he paid
so
much. I am looking at less than that in taxes perecentage wise, but I
bought a $34,000 Toyota for wife in April last year. Nice sales tax
deduction. I have no mortgage, so that is not helping the deductions.

ROFLMAO!! why he paid so much...i paid over 20,000 in federal taxes
alone and that's AFTER my mortgage deduction. the middle class doesnt
get the tax cuts the rich do. we pay the taxes AND we pay for the rich
when the screw the economy



I am middle class. I am not rich. Comfortable, but a long ways from rich.
Maybe you should see a good tax advisor, or maybe because you are really
rich you pay all that tax.

"Canuck57" wrote in message
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On 12/04/2010 5:36 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 17:26:11 -0600,
wrote:

On 12/04/2010 3:49 PM, Bill McKee wrote:
wrote in message
...
right wingers are like child molesters. they show up at the kid's xmas
parties, HORRIFED that anyone would abuse a kid, then take little
johnny or susie into the back room...

we have a bunch of right whiners complaining about obama, all the
while LYING about what HUGE spenders right wingers a

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...idential_terms

the democrats give middle class pay increases

the right gives middle class poverty AND enrich the already rich AND
spend like drunken sailors.

cantcha just see 'canuck' and the other brain dead limball suckers
gnashing their teeth over their own record while blowing their gourds
over their own horrible history?

Seems odd chart. Must not acct for inflation. Carter looks great in
that
chart. 17% interest on CD's, 15%+ inflation, 20% home loan rates.
Bush
added 2 trillion, which is obscene to the debt, but that was 8 years.
Obama
has added that much in less than 2 years.

Yep, and looked like Bush ran the government in 2009. Obama should be
furious.

ROFLMAO!!! is that the best you can do? 70 years of right wing screw
ups and you complain about 1 year???

HAHAHAHAH!!!

I think this weekend if i am ambitious I will plot the same chart with a
democrat versus republican congress. As it is congress, not the president
that authorizes the debt spend.

Surprized how many leftists deny that fact given congress is democrat.




Actually is very much a Congress problem. Years ago, the Executive branch
stopped a lot of the overspending by just not spending those allocated
dollars. Congress sued and the courts said, that if Congress passes a
spending bill that is not vetoed the Executive branch has to spend the
money. Executive should appeal the case on the Check and Balances part.

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
...

"bpuharic" wrote in message
news
On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 23:19:14 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:



You democriters might want to take a look at Japan for what is in sore
for the debtors of America and unwilling more consrvative types is
Obama
isn't stopped with his debt-spend-debt-spend mania.

really? our economy is growing. guess that escaped your attention.


I hate to see America get flushed down the toilet for debt mongering
selfish liberal debt spending *******s.

now let's see...

you admit right wingers are big spenders

they make more debt than liberals...

yet you blame it all on obama...kind of forgetting he wasn't even born
in 29.

oh well...guess limball hasn't caught up with you guys yet

What 10% decrease in unemployment?

from 10.7 to 9.7 over obama's adminstration....

We will have a bump in employment this
quarter because of the Census. But they are minimum wage mostly and is a
short time employment. We are actually going to have a really hard time
getting employment up. When you can buy a finished product FOB your door
from a foreign manufacturer cheaper than you can buy the raw materials.
We
are in deep kimchi.

to a certain extent, we are. and that's a measure of how deeply the
right wing has hurt the US.



Maybe the unemployment went down to 9.7%, but it was a lot less than that
when Obama took over. He pushed the "Stimulus" to keep unemployment under
8%. How has that worked out?
http://www.google.com/publicdata?ds=...mployment+rate



How would it have worked out without the stimulus? Hmmm.... 25% maybe? A
real depression maybe?

And, of course, the Stim was passed on Feb. 13, 2009, so Obama did it. YOU
ARE AN IDIOT.


--
Nom=de=Plume

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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"Canuck57" wrote in message
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On 12/04/2010 5:36 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 17:26:11 -0600,
wrote:

On 12/04/2010 3:49 PM, Bill McKee wrote:
wrote in message
...
right wingers are like child molesters. they show up at the kid's
xmas
parties, HORRIFED that anyone would abuse a kid, then take little
johnny or susie into the back room...

we have a bunch of right whiners complaining about obama, all the
while LYING about what HUGE spenders right wingers a

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...idential_terms

the democrats give middle class pay increases

the right gives middle class poverty AND enrich the already rich AND
spend like drunken sailors.

cantcha just see 'canuck' and the other brain dead limball suckers
gnashing their teeth over their own record while blowing their gourds
over their own horrible history?

Seems odd chart. Must not acct for inflation. Carter looks great in
that
chart. 17% interest on CD's, 15%+ inflation, 20% home loan rates.
Bush
added 2 trillion, which is obscene to the debt, but that was 8 years.
Obama
has added that much in less than 2 years.

Yep, and looked like Bush ran the government in 2009. Obama should be
furious.

ROFLMAO!!! is that the best you can do? 70 years of right wing screw
ups and you complain about 1 year???

HAHAHAHAH!!!

I think this weekend if i am ambitious I will plot the same chart with a
democrat versus republican congress. As it is congress, not the
president that authorizes the debt spend.

Surprized how many leftists deny that fact given congress is democrat.




Actually is very much a Congress problem. Years ago, the Executive branch
stopped a lot of the overspending by just not spending those allocated
dollars. Congress sued and the courts said, that if Congress passes a
spending bill that is not vetoed the Executive branch has to spend the
money. Executive should appeal the case on the Check and Balances part.



Yeah, you're such a great, nationally known lawyer. I'm sure everyone in the
legal profession is listening.

--
Nom=de=Plume

On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 13:17:31 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"bpuharic" wrote in message


to a certain extent, we are. and that's a measure of how deeply the
right wing has hurt the US.



Maybe the unemployment went down to 9.7%, but it was a lot less than that
when Obama took over. He pushed the "Stimulus" to keep unemployment under
8%. How has that worked out?

pretty good. he's created 1.5M jobs. and the economy needs to grow at
5% for a year to reduce unemployment by 1%. hard to do in these times

On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 07:06:48 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 12/04/2010 5:36 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 17:26:11 -0600,
wrote:


Seems odd chart. Must not acct for inflation. Carter looks great in that
chart. 17% interest on CD's, 15%+ inflation, 20% home loan rates. Bush
added 2 trillion, which is obscene to the debt, but that was 8 years. Obama
has added that much in less than 2 years.

Yep, and looked like Bush ran the government in 2009. Obama should be
furious.

ROFLMAO!!! is that the best you can do? 70 years of right wing screw
ups and you complain about 1 year???

HAHAHAHAH!!!

I think this weekend if i am ambitious I will plot the same chart with a
democrat versus republican congress. As it is congress, not the
president that authorizes the debt spend.

Surprized how many leftists deny that fact given congress is democrat.

and the GOP congress under bush ran up the largest deficits in US
history...BUT....

you can actually see the electrician installing the fixture for the
light bulb over his head.

he's been ****ting his pants about obama...

now he's starting to get it. he's admitted unemployment is down, the
deficit is down
(http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...l?hpid=topnews)
and 1.5M jobs have been created.

he's finally starting to realize his tin foil hat hysteria about obama
is delusional.

HALLELUJAH!!!

"bpuharic" wrote in message
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On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 13:17:31 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"bpuharic" wrote in message


to a certain extent, we are. and that's a measure of how deeply the
right wing has hurt the US.



Maybe the unemployment went down to 9.7%, but it was a lot less than that
when Obama took over. He pushed the "Stimulus" to keep unemployment under
8%. How has that worked out?

pretty good. he's created 1.5M jobs. and the economy needs to grow at
5% for a year to reduce unemployment by 1%. hard to do in these times

You do not make sense. Because the unemployment numbers have had a short
dip below 10% all is good? the fact of the unemployment numbers skyrocking
before this under his watch means nothing?

On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 18:27:30 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"bpuharic" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 09:50:57 -0400, wrote:

And a little education for you on the banks and the economic meltdown.
Notice who it started under. So it is not all rightwing Republicans.
http://www.fool.com/investing/genera...e-economy.aspx

never said it was. but as your own reference says, reagan made it a
religion. carter did it with trucks. reagan turned it, in the words
of the article, into a 'crusade'.

and one thing's for su it has zip to do with obama, as the far
right says.

On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 18:25:59 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"bpuharic" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 13:17:31 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"bpuharic" wrote in message


to a certain extent, we are. and that's a measure of how deeply the
right wing has hurt the US.



Maybe the unemployment went down to 9.7%, but it was a lot less than that
when Obama took over. He pushed the "Stimulus" to keep unemployment under
8%. How has that worked out?

pretty good. he's created 1.5M jobs. and the economy needs to grow at
5% for a year to reduce unemployment by 1%. hard to do in these times

You do not make sense. Because the unemployment numbers have had a short
dip below 10% all is good? the fact of the unemployment numbers skyrocking
before this under his watch means nothing?

gee..it's been about 6 months or so since the 1.5M jobs obama created
pulled the rate from 10.7 to 9.7.

and the reason they skyrocketed was due to bush letting the wealthy
raid middle class workers' wealth.

obama had zip to do with what bush did