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On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 21:49:25 -0400, Larry wrote:


Amazing. Two morons and a big settlement. I hope they can appeal
it.
It's worse than the lady who spilled coffee on her lap and sued
because
it was hot.

Yeah, well there is hot, and then there is what McDonald's was
selling.
Eight days in hospital, with skin grafts, hot.

http://www.lectlaw.com/files/cur78.htm

When you are 70 years old, and a coffee drinker, you should have
learned
coffee is hot. And not be so stupid as to take off the protective
lid
and place the cup in your crotch as your son drives over the curb
leaving McD's. And the $24million was reduced to about 1.4 million.
After medical and legal costs, I bet she had enough to buy a senior
coffee at McD's.

We're all eternally grateful that you're not in the legal profession,
a
judge, or qualified to sit on a jury.

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Unlike you, I am qualified to sit on a jury, and have a couple times.

Unlike me? There's no bar for an attorney to sit on a jury. Feel free
to
prove otherwise.



What Bilious is saying here is that if you put a mirror in front of his
mouth, he might be able to fog it...and thus qualify for jury duty.

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I suspect that if he were called for jury duty and the case involved
anything during the voir dire about his ability to be objective, say
because the defendent was a minority, he would get booted.

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So you are racist also. Have served on armed robbery case. Minority.
Have served on a couple civil cases, one was minority. Hell, the minority
group got screwed by the attorney's. Both sides. Was a legal malpractice
case. The Attorneys settled without the plaintiff. A minority church
group. Screwed originally by their attorney giving bad advice, and then by
the next attorney making a deal with the former attorney. Been called for
3 murder 1 cases. Defense excused me because I figured that those using a
gun in a crime should spend a long time in jail, ala Richmond, VA. Black
judge liked me and I liked him. As to racism. I figure you and Harry
never associate with minorities in a friendly enviroment.



Uh huh... you got that from what exactly? The fact that you're a racist? It
doesn't work that way Mr. McGoo. Just because you are doesn't mean everyone
else is. The black judge liked you? How do you know this? Did he invite you
out for a drink? Maybe he *did* like you.

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On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 21:49:25 -0400, Larry wrote:


Amazing. Two morons and a big settlement. I hope they can appeal
it.
It's worse than the lady who spilled coffee on her lap and sued
because
it was hot.

Yeah, well there is hot, and then there is what McDonald's was
selling.
Eight days in hospital, with skin grafts, hot.

http://www.lectlaw.com/files/cur78.htm

When you are 70 years old, and a coffee drinker, you should have
learned coffee is hot. And not be so stupid as to take off the
protective lid and place the cup in your crotch as your son drives
over the curb leaving McD's. And the $24million was reduced to about
1.4 million. After medical and legal costs, I bet she had enough to
buy a senior coffee at McD's.

We're all eternally grateful that you're not in the legal profession, a
judge, or qualified to sit on a jury.

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Unlike you, I am qualified to sit on a jury, and have a couple times.


Unlike me? There's no bar for an attorney to sit on a jury. Feel free to
prove otherwise.

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Your attitude would get the defense to toss you.


Uh huh... wow. I must have really hit a nerve. I'm betting you're pretty
homophobic also. Why don't you tell us about all your gay friends.

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I saw Thunder's post and he is guessing too.
Somebody show me a side by side test with a regular cheap aluminum
prop (not even some special high performance SS) and I will be
convinced.
My bet, at least a 10% decrease in performance on a barge like mine
and probably more like 25% a performance boat. There is no accident
props are made like they are. This is a century old technology and
they improve them every year, basically by doing the opposite of what
this guy is doing. (thinner blades, sharper edges) That is why people
spend the money for stainless steel. It is hard enough to hold that
edge. Guys spend $50-100 bucks to get them cleaned up when they get
tiny dings in them.

I am not even convinced that if you actually hit someone in the water
it would make that much difference. It is a lot easier to knock the
arm out of the way, from the side, in free air. Would you try it? None
of this would affect going straight into the prop.


But, you're not guessing... no way. You have the FACTS. Sure.

I am not guessing about why props are made the way they are or the
fact that things don't move out of the way as easy in water as they do
in air. We are really only guessing about how well you would survive a
real world strike from this prop in the water.
The inventor sure isn't demonstrating that or even presenting some
kind of anecdotal evidence.



I was discussing the difference in performance. I don't think anyone would
do well getting hit by a propeller.


Then what is the point?



That a propeller guard doesn't significantly impact performance.


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Nope, you hold the coffee and steer with your belly. Probably sticks out
and hits the wheel anyway.

Come on Bill we all know you steer with your knee.



We know it's not something else also.

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On Apr 11, 10:58*am, hk wrote:
On 4/11/10 10:15 AM, Loogypicker wrote:





On Apr 10, 6:10 pm, *wrote:
On 4/10/10 5:16 PM, Jack wrote:


On Apr 10, 4:47 pm, * *wrote:
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...D9ETMVA02.html


So now what, will this become a safety standard of the industry that
props should have guards?


A guy jumped in the water behind a boat with a running motor. *The
driver of the boat puts the boat in reverse, and hits the guy with the
prop.


The boat manufacturer has to pay.


That's so screwed up it's almost unbelievable. *Almost.


A president and his vice president lie about WMDs, and tens of thousands
of people paid the price with their lives and pocketbooks.


That's so screwed up it is unbelievable.


--http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym


You act like a ****ing little boy out on the playground - *everyone
look at me, look at me, pay attention to me*.....
What in HELL does this thread have to do with politics, at least until
you injected your bull****?


Here's a secret for you...I don't give a damn about what passes for
thought in your pea-sized brain. BTW, it's spring here. When are you
planning to make your promised visit here to engage in criminal assault
and home invasion?

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Please show where I ever said I was going to criminally assault
anyone. Then please show where I said I was going to do a home
invasion. See you in a few weeks, but please answer these allegations
of yours first.


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On Apr 11, 10:54*am, hk wrote:
On 4/11/10 10:16 AM, Loogypicker wrote:





On Apr 10, 6:40 pm, *wrote:
On 4/10/10 6:33 PM, Tim wrote:


On Apr 10, 5:11 pm, * *wrote:
On 10/04/2010 3:56 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:


* * *wrote in message
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On Apr 10, 4:47 pm, * * *wrote:
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...9ETMVA02..html


So now what, will this become a safety standard of the industry that
props should have guards?


A guy jumped in the water behind a boat with a running motor. *The
driver of the boat puts the boat in reverse, and hits the guy with the
prop.


The boat manufacturer has to pay.


That's so screwed up it's almost unbelievable. *Almost.


Hmm... so a simple device, known to prevent such accidents is intentionally
not used, someone is maimed, but the boat manufacturer has no liability? I
guess a jury disagreed. I guess that's communism run amok.


Does not mater. *The husband basically ran this wench over:


http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2009/...d-boat-propell....


Not sure if it is the same case as the dallas link is broken. *But what
a darwin move. *Even if it had a guard, you are so darwinian stupid to
do this as a captain or as a swimmer.


100% captians fault. *And judge should just say so and let OMC sue the
**** out of him for recovery costs. *Take their home even and even go
for the plaintifs lawyer for taking such a stupid case.


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Liberal-statism is an addiction to other peoples money.


"The jury found Brunswick 66 percent liable for the injury, with
Brochtrup and the boat's driver responsible for the rest. Because the
driver was not part of the lawsuit, he will not have to pay. "


So the pilot was at fault by 33 % but seeing he's not in the suit, be
doesnt' have to pay.


uh-huh...


How much do you think the owners/operators of the mine that killed 29
this week should have to pay in damages to the families of the dead?


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No one forced ANY of those workers to take those jobs.


Loogy...the Chumpion of Corporate America.

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Do you think that someone forced those people to work there? Quite the
contrary. They actually interviewed one mother who stated that she
tried to get her son to not get into the mining trade, he did anyway.
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On 4/12/10 9:12 AM, Loogypicker wrote:
On Apr 11, 10:58 am, wrote:
On 4/11/10 10:15 AM, Loogypicker wrote:





On Apr 10, 6:10 pm, wrote:
On 4/10/10 5:16 PM, Jack wrote:


On Apr 10, 4:47 pm, wrote:
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...D9ETMVA02.html


So now what, will this become a safety standard of the industry that
props should have guards?


A guy jumped in the water behind a boat with a running motor. The
driver of the boat puts the boat in reverse, and hits the guy with the
prop.


The boat manufacturer has to pay.


That's so screwed up it's almost unbelievable. Almost.


A president and his vice president lie about WMDs, and tens of thousands
of people paid the price with their lives and pocketbooks.


That's so screwed up it is unbelievable.


--http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym


You act like a ****ing little boy out on the playground - *everyone
look at me, look at me, pay attention to me*.....
What in HELL does this thread have to do with politics, at least until
you injected your bull****?


Here's a secret for you...I don't give a damn about what passes for
thought in your pea-sized brain. BTW, it's spring here. When are you
planning to make your promised visit here to engage in criminal assault
and home invasion?

--http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Please show where I ever said I was going to criminally assault
anyone. Then please show where I said I was going to do a home
invasion. See you in a few weeks, but please answer these allegations
of yours first.



snerk


Told you before, fart-for-brains...you're not welcome here and if you
attempt to push the issue through assault or home invasion or vandalism,
it will end badly for you.





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hk wrote:
On 4/12/10 9:12 AM, Loogypicker wrote:
On Apr 11, 10:58 am, wrote:
On 4/11/10 10:15 AM, Loogypicker wrote:





On Apr 10, 6:10 pm, wrote:
On 4/10/10 5:16 PM, Jack wrote:

On Apr 10, 4:47 pm, wrote:
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...D9ETMVA02.html


So now what, will this become a safety standard of the industry that
props should have guards?

A guy jumped in the water behind a boat with a running motor. The
driver of the boat puts the boat in reverse, and hits the guy with
the
prop.

The boat manufacturer has to pay.

That's so screwed up it's almost unbelievable. Almost.

A president and his vice president lie about WMDs, and tens of
thousands
of people paid the price with their lives and pocketbooks.

That's so screwed up it is unbelievable.

--http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym

You act like a ****ing little boy out on the playground - *everyone
look at me, look at me, pay attention to me*.....
What in HELL does this thread have to do with politics, at least until
you injected your bull****?

Here's a secret for you...I don't give a damn about what passes for
thought in your pea-sized brain. BTW, it's spring here. When are you
planning to make your promised visit here to engage in criminal assault
and home invasion?

--http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Please show where I ever said I was going to criminally assault
anyone. Then please show where I said I was going to do a home
invasion. See you in a few weeks, but please answer these allegations
of yours first.



snerk


Told you before, fart-for-brains...you're not welcome here and if you
attempt to push the issue through assault or home invasion or vandalism,
it will end badly for you.

Loogie is just pushing your button, and you fall for it each and every
time. How dumb is that? You must be very skeeered of Loogie.
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hk wrote:
On 4/12/10 9:12 AM, Loogypicker wrote:
On Apr 11, 10:58 am, wrote:
On 4/11/10 10:15 AM, Loogypicker wrote:





On Apr 10, 6:10 pm, wrote:
On 4/10/10 5:16 PM, Jack wrote:

On Apr 10, 4:47 pm, wrote:
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...D9ETMVA02.html


So now what, will this become a safety standard of the industry that
props should have guards?

A guy jumped in the water behind a boat with a running motor. The
driver of the boat puts the boat in reverse, and hits the guy with
the
prop.

The boat manufacturer has to pay.

That's so screwed up it's almost unbelievable. Almost.

A president and his vice president lie about WMDs, and tens of
thousands
of people paid the price with their lives and pocketbooks.

That's so screwed up it is unbelievable.

--http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym

You act like a ****ing little boy out on the playground - *everyone
look at me, look at me, pay attention to me*.....
What in HELL does this thread have to do with politics, at least until
you injected your bull****?

Here's a secret for you...I don't give a damn about what passes for
thought in your pea-sized brain. BTW, it's spring here. When are you
planning to make your promised visit here to engage in criminal assault
and home invasion?

--http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Please show where I ever said I was going to criminally assault
anyone. Then please show where I said I was going to do a home
invasion. See you in a few weeks, but please answer these allegations
of yours first.



snerk


Told you before, fart-for-brains...you're not welcome here and if you
attempt to push the issue through assault or home invasion or vandalism,
it will end badly for you.



http://www.mefeedia.com/watch/29532961
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If you want some light reading take a peek
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-...4pcs. txt.pdf



I couldn't get the link to work... I seriously doubt one's home would be
required to have an energy star label like my fridge does.


The link works, you may have just not waited long enough for it to
load.
... and "energy star label" is exactly the language they use. I doubt
it means you have to put a sticker on the door but you will have a
notation on your title deed.



I'll try again later. There's already tons of paperwork required for a
sale... all sorts of disclosure statements. It's likely the same bs.

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