Tim wrote:
On Apr 9, 11:15 am, wrote:

On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 06:41:27 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:


This pontoon I just got has a v-4 evinrude with a power trim . Besides
using it to raise the lower end for transport, is a power trim really
of any effective use on a pontoon boat? especially of one of this size
and loaded down with people? I mean it's gong to be a cruise
platform, not a rocket sled.

The trim can make a little difference but not that much. I have a 60
and had a 75 on a 20' Harris. I could play with the trim and get about
a 1 MPH swing. Trim can help a lot in shallow water operation tho.

An 85 is not going to give you tremendous performance on that boat
anyway. That motor is old enough that the 85 was probably BHP and not
at the prop so it may be more like 70. If you really figure out you
like the pontoon boat experience I would be saving my box tops for a 4
stroke 115-150 class repower.

Thanks Greg. I DO have a 115 v4 saved up for the perfect opertunity,
And it may be used.

I figures since a pontoon sits low in the back then trimming it would
probably jsut push the back end lower, because I don't think the front
is going to raise. Especially "to the moon, Alice" before planing,t
hat is, if a pontoon actually 'planes'. It probably does but not as I
know it. I'm a v-hull boater, not a barge operator.

You will be soon!

On Apr 9, 4:08*pm, hk wrote:
On 4/9/10 3:57 PM, wrote:





On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 14:59:49 -0300, "Don White"
*wrote:

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On 4/9/10 1:12 PM, Tim wrote:
On Apr 9, 11:15 am, wrote:
On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 06:41:27 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

This pontoon I just got has a v-4 evinrude with a power trim . Besides
using it to raise the lower end for transport, is a power trim really
of any effective use on a pontoon boat? especially of one of this size
and loaded down with people? *I mean it's gong to be a cruise
platform, not a rocket sled.

The trim can make a little difference but not that much. I have a 60
and had a 75 on a 20' Harris. I could play with the trim and get about
a 1 MPH swing. *Trim can help a lot in shallow water operation tho.

An 85 is not going to give you tremendous performance on that boat
anyway. That motor is old enough that the 85 was probably BHP and not
at the prop so it may be more like 70. If you really figure out you
like the pontoon boat experience I would be saving my box tops for a 4
stroke 115-150 class repower.

Thanks Greg. I DO have a 115 v4 saved up for the perfect opertunity,
And it may be used.

I figures since a pontoon sits low in the back then trimming it would
probably jsut push the back end lower, because I don't think the front
is going to raise. Especially "to the moon, Alice" before planing,t
hat is, if a pontoon actually 'planes'. It probably does but not as I
know it. I'm a v-hull boater, not a barge operator.

Before I bought my first small boat in Jax, I rented a nice pontoon boat
for the day from an outfit on the St. Johns River, near where it empties
into the Atlantic. It was a "somewhere in the 20's" in terms of length,
and it had a 115 hp Merc on it. Nice boat.

Well, the trip out to the mouth of the river was uneventful. It was too
rough for comfort for the pontoon boat between the jetties, what with the
wind, the current and boat wakes, so we messed around near one of the
beaches on the south side. Going back, the wind kicked up and the trip
back to the dock on that pontoon was not very enjoyable. Made me think a
lot more seriously about buying a small v-hull boat, rather than a pontoon
boat, for the river, ICW and occasional near shore Atlantic fishing.

Once in a blue moon you'll see one in our harbour, but that's about it..
I've never seen one at any of the local boat/yacht clubs situated on the
ocean.

We have pontoons 10 miles offshore in the Gulf all the time but the
water is usually pretty calm here.

There are always fools doing things in boats they shouldn't. Going 10
miles offshore in a pontoon boat on a relatively shallow body of water
where storms can come up suddenly sounds like a competition for the
Darwin award. Well, Loogy would do it.

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You should just cower in your basement as opposed to doing anything
adventurous. It's a dangerous world out there, and there must be
practice tests to take.

On 4/10/10 10:27 AM, Loogypicker wrote:
On Apr 9, 4:08 pm, wrote:
On 4/9/10 3:57 PM, wrote:





On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 14:59:49 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

wrote in message
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On 4/9/10 1:12 PM, Tim wrote:
On Apr 9, 11:15 am, wrote:
On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 06:41:27 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

This pontoon I just got has a v-4 evinrude with a power trim . Besides
using it to raise the lower end for transport, is a power trim really
of any effective use on a pontoon boat? especially of one of this size
and loaded down with people? I mean it's gong to be a cruise
platform, not a rocket sled.

The trim can make a little difference but not that much. I have a 60
and had a 75 on a 20' Harris. I could play with the trim and get about
a 1 MPH swing. Trim can help a lot in shallow water operation tho.

An 85 is not going to give you tremendous performance on that boat
anyway. That motor is old enough that the 85 was probably BHP and not
at the prop so it may be more like 70. If you really figure out you
like the pontoon boat experience I would be saving my box tops for a 4
stroke 115-150 class repower.

Thanks Greg. I DO have a 115 v4 saved up for the perfect opertunity,
And it may be used.

I figures since a pontoon sits low in the back then trimming it would
probably jsut push the back end lower, because I don't think the front
is going to raise. Especially "to the moon, Alice" before planing,t
hat is, if a pontoon actually 'planes'. It probably does but not as I
know it. I'm a v-hull boater, not a barge operator.

Before I bought my first small boat in Jax, I rented a nice pontoon boat
for the day from an outfit on the St. Johns River, near where it empties
into the Atlantic. It was a "somewhere in the 20's" in terms of length,
and it had a 115 hp Merc on it. Nice boat.

Well, the trip out to the mouth of the river was uneventful. It was too
rough for comfort for the pontoon boat between the jetties, what with the
wind, the current and boat wakes, so we messed around near one of the
beaches on the south side. Going back, the wind kicked up and the trip
back to the dock on that pontoon was not very enjoyable. Made me think a
lot more seriously about buying a small v-hull boat, rather than a pontoon
boat, for the river, ICW and occasional near shore Atlantic fishing.

Once in a blue moon you'll see one in our harbour, but that's about it.
I've never seen one at any of the local boat/yacht clubs situated on the
ocean.

We have pontoons 10 miles offshore in the Gulf all the time but the
water is usually pretty calm here.

There are always fools doing things in boats they shouldn't. Going 10
miles offshore in a pontoon boat on a relatively shallow body of water
where storms can come up suddenly sounds like a competition for the
Darwin award. Well, Loogy would do it.

--http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You should just cower in your basement as opposed to doing anything
adventurous. It's a dangerous world out there, and there must be
practice tests to take.



Please...your idea of boating is to rent a rowboat and have your wife
row you around lake lanier.

--
http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym

On Apr 10, 10:30*am, hk wrote:
On 4/10/10 10:27 AM, Loogypicker wrote:





On Apr 9, 4:08 pm, *wrote:
On 4/9/10 3:57 PM, wrote:

On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 14:59:49 -0300, "Don White"
* *wrote:

* *wrote in message
news:SvudndCca7ep_CLWnZ2dnUVZ_tednZ2d@earthlin k.com...
On 4/9/10 1:12 PM, Tim wrote:
On Apr 9, 11:15 am, wrote:
On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 06:41:27 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

This pontoon I just got has a v-4 evinrude with a power trim . Besides
using it to raise the lower end for transport, is a power trim really
of any effective use on a pontoon boat? especially of one of this size
and loaded down with people? *I mean it's gong to be a cruise
platform, not a rocket sled.

The trim can make a little difference but not that much. I have a 60
and had a 75 on a 20' Harris. I could play with the trim and get about
a 1 MPH swing. *Trim can help a lot in shallow water operation tho.

An 85 is not going to give you tremendous performance on that boat
anyway. That motor is old enough that the 85 was probably BHP and not
at the prop so it may be more like 70. If you really figure out you
like the pontoon boat experience I would be saving my box tops for a 4
stroke 115-150 class repower.

Thanks Greg. I DO have a 115 v4 saved up for the perfect opertunity,
And it may be used.

I figures since a pontoon sits low in the back then trimming it would
probably jsut push the back end lower, because I don't think the front
is going to raise. Especially "to the moon, Alice" before planing,t
hat is, if a pontoon actually 'planes'. It probably does but not as I
know it. I'm a v-hull boater, not a barge operator.

Before I bought my first small boat in Jax, I rented a nice pontoon boat
for the day from an outfit on the St. Johns River, near where it empties
into the Atlantic. It was a "somewhere in the 20's" in terms of length,
and it had a 115 hp Merc on it. Nice boat.

Well, the trip out to the mouth of the river was uneventful. It was too
rough for comfort for the pontoon boat between the jetties, what with the
wind, the current and boat wakes, so we messed around near one of the
beaches on the south side. Going back, the wind kicked up and the trip
back to the dock on that pontoon was not very enjoyable. Made me think a
lot more seriously about buying a small v-hull boat, rather than a pontoon
boat, for the river, ICW and occasional near shore Atlantic fishing..

Once in a blue moon you'll see one in our harbour, but that's about it.
I've never seen one at any of the local boat/yacht clubs situated on the
ocean.

We have pontoons 10 miles offshore in the Gulf all the time but the
water is usually pretty calm here.

There are always fools doing things in boats they shouldn't. Going 10
miles offshore in a pontoon boat on a relatively shallow body of water
where storms can come up suddenly sounds like a competition for the
Darwin award. Well, Loogy would do it.

--http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym-Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You should just cower in your basement as opposed to doing anything
adventurous. It's a dangerous world out there, and there must be
practice tests to take.

Please...your idea of boating is to rent a rowboat and have your wife
row you around lake lanier.

--http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Sure, do tell, once more, how you know about what I have, what I do,
and my family......
Or you could just admit that you're making **** up, just like you do
about your life, your wife, and everything you claim to own.

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On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 07:54:46 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Thanks for all he ideas. I know that trim works well on my v hulls,
but I've never used a tube boat. And seeing it's not a v or tri-hull
etc, I was wondering about the trim's effectiveness on a two-rail type
system. Yeah, I suppose I'll find out one way or another.

I have noticed that pontoons sit low in the back anyhow, and with
people on it, the things sit low everywhere.

True, this might take a bit of experimentation.

"Trimming" the people on the boat by balancing the load makes more
difference than anything you can do with the motor but a load on that
aircraft carrier you have is probably 10 or more. It is real hard to
get that many people to sit in one spot for long.

Duct tape!

A pontoon does have a step but you can't really call it planing.

Ever seen one of these? http://www.pontoonwaterglide.com/
Not cheap but pretty interesting.

On Apr 10, 5:08*pm, "mmc" wrote:
A pontoon does have a step but you can't really call it planing.

Ever seen one of these?http://www.pontoonwaterglide.com/
Not cheap but pretty interesting.

That's a lot cheaper than the 3rd pontoon option when buying a new
boat. Looks like it would give you some, but not nearly all of the
benefits as well. But if you had an older 2 toon boat you were happy
with and just wanted to upgrade on the cheap, I could see it.

"Jack" wrote in message
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On Apr 10, 5:08 pm, "mmc" wrote:
A pontoon does have a step but you can't really call it planing.

Ever seen one of these?http://www.pontoonwaterglide.com/
Not cheap but pretty interesting.

That's a lot cheaper than the 3rd pontoon option when buying a new
boat. Looks like it would give you some, but not nearly all of the
benefits as well. But if you had an older 2 toon boat you were happy
with and just wanted to upgrade on the cheap, I could see it.

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I watched the before/after vid and it looked good. Then I watched the vid
again on the PTX, man that thing is awesome! Maybe mine could be "almost
awesome" or "semi-awesome" with the $1,800 kit :-} Or at least enough to
keep the kids awake.
'Course, I'd probably also have to step up from my 50hp 2 cycle.....

On Apr 10, 6:31*pm, "mmc" wrote:
"Jack" wrote in message

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On Apr 10, 5:08 pm, "mmc" wrote:

A pontoon does have a step but you can't really call it planing.

Ever seen one of these?http://www.pontoonwaterglide.com/
Not cheap but pretty interesting.

That's a lot cheaper than the 3rd pontoon option when buying a new
boat. *Looks like it would give you some, but not nearly all of the
benefits as well. *But if you had an older 2 toon boat you were happy
with and just wanted to upgrade on the cheap, I could see it.

--------
I watched the before/after vid and it looked good. Then I watched the vid
again on the PTX, man that thing is awesome! Maybe mine could be "almost
awesome" or "semi-awesome" with the $1,800 kit :-} Or at least enough to
keep the kids awake.
'Course, I'd probably also have to step up from my 50hp 2 cycle.....

I just went back to the site and watched the videos. It's pretty
impressive! I have a friend who will be interested in that... I'm
betting he'll have one by mid-summer after he sees the video.

But right now I'm headed out to the lake. Another couple is coming
over, and we're going to eat lunch at one of the marina/restaurants
and spend the afternoon out on the water. It'll be a slow, putt-
around kind of day. :-)

"Jack" wrote in message
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On Apr 10, 6:31 pm, "mmc" wrote:
"Jack" wrote in message

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On Apr 10, 5:08 pm, "mmc" wrote:

A pontoon does have a step but you can't really call it planing.

Ever seen one of these?http://www.pontoonwaterglide.com/
Not cheap but pretty interesting.

That's a lot cheaper than the 3rd pontoon option when buying a new
boat. Looks like it would give you some, but not nearly all of the
benefits as well. But if you had an older 2 toon boat you were happy
with and just wanted to upgrade on the cheap, I could see it.

--------
I watched the before/after vid and it looked good. Then I watched the vid
again on the PTX, man that thing is awesome! Maybe mine could be "almost
awesome" or "semi-awesome" with the $1,800 kit :-} Or at least enough to
keep the kids awake.
'Course, I'd probably also have to step up from my 50hp 2 cycle.....

I just went back to the site and watched the videos. It's pretty
impressive! I have a friend who will be interested in that... I'm
betting he'll have one by mid-summer after he sees the video.

But right now I'm headed out to the lake. Another couple is coming
over, and we're going to eat lunch at one of the marina/restaurants
and spend the afternoon out on the water. It'll be a slow, putt-
around kind of day. :-)
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Sounds like a great day.