On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 07:36:47 -0600, Canuck57
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On 10/04/2010 7:17 AM, bpuharic wrote:


yeah. we haven't had a pay increase in 10 years. why do you think the
rich need a tax decrease when their income has trippled while the
middle class should continue to pay all the taxes?


Well I suppose
the other 85% making it in less says tough ****.
The 3% over $250,000 did just get their taxes raised, a lot.

great. they deserve it.

So, keep voting for the same statism and they will arange for things to
be more expensive and lower you net income.

both the dems and GOPS spend like drunken sailors.

the dems spend on the middle class

the GOP spends on the rich.

i'll go with the dems

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On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 10:17:35 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 07:36:47 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 10/04/2010 7:17 AM, bpuharic wrote:


yeah. we haven't had a pay increase in 10 years. why do you think the
rich need a tax decrease when their income has trippled while the
middle class should continue to pay all the taxes?


Well I suppose
the other 85% making it in less says tough ****.
The 3% over $250,000 did just get their taxes raised, a lot.

great. they deserve it.

So, keep voting for the same statism and they will arange for things to
be more expensive and lower you net income.

both the dems and GOPS spend like drunken sailors.

the dems spend on the middle class

the GOP spends on the rich.

i'll go with the dems

The dems are supposed to be spending on the working class. No wonder
they lost all the flyover states.


Try again. You're just wrong.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...ama_vs_mccain/


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On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 10:20:11 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 10:17:35 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 07:36:47 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 10/04/2010 7:17 AM, bpuharic wrote:


yeah. we haven't had a pay increase in 10 years. why do you think the
rich need a tax decrease when their income has trippled while the
middle class should continue to pay all the taxes?


Well I suppose
the other 85% making it in less says tough ****.
The 3% over $250,000 did just get their taxes raised, a lot.

great. they deserve it.

So, keep voting for the same statism and they will arange for things to
be more expensive and lower you net income.

both the dems and GOPS spend like drunken sailors.

the dems spend on the middle class

the GOP spends on the rich.

i'll go with the dems

The dems are supposed to be spending on the working class. No wonder
they lost all the flyover states.


Try again. You're just wrong.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...ama_vs_mccain/


Take those 25 cities out of the equation and see what you get.
Do a precinct map and see how red we are

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:El...rpleCounty.jpg



You can slice it anyway you want. The fact is that the majority of the
population is no longer rural.

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On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 13:06:22 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 10:17:35 -0400, bpuharic wrote:


the dems spend on the middle class

the GOP spends on the rich.

i'll go with the dems

The dems are supposed to be spending on the working class. No wonder
they lost all the flyover states.

ever hear of universal healthcare? the dems got it for us.

the GOP? they bitched because the rich got nothing except the bill

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On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 13:06:22 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 10:17:35 -0400, bpuharic wrote:


the dems spend on the middle class

the GOP spends on the rich.

i'll go with the dems

The dems are supposed to be spending on the working class. No wonder
they lost all the flyover states.

ever hear of universal healthcare? the dems got it for us.

the GOP? they bitched because the rich got nothing except the bill


Actually everyone will get the bill.

On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 17:51:31 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 14:54:44 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

The dems are supposed to be spending on the working class. No wonder
they lost all the flyover states.

ever hear of universal healthcare? the dems got it for us.

Universal, as long as you can afford it, What changed?

hmm...seems you dont know too much about it

I bet you a hundred bucks (that a poor working class guy like me can
barely afford to lose) that this year's open season will have record
insurance price increases.

already been done. anthem, in CA, announced a 40% increase

before obama's healthcare was passed

any more cliches?

On 4/10/10 5:51 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 14:54:44 -0400, wrote:

The dems are supposed to be spending on the working class. No wonder
they lost all the flyover states.

ever hear of universal healthcare? the dems got it for us.

Universal, as long as you can afford it, What changed?
I bet you a hundred bucks (that a poor working class guy like me can
barely afford to lose) that this year's open season will have record
insurance price increases.


And that will have nothing to do with anything beyond greed. What is
needed in the next step...price controls...and then the beginnings of a
single payer system that eventually pushed the insurers out of the biz.
They do nothing but suck the lifeblood out of the economy.

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On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:15:57 -0400, hk
wrote:

On 4/10/10 5:51 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 14:54:44 -0400, wrote:

The dems are supposed to be spending on the working class. No wonder
they lost all the flyover states.

ever hear of universal healthcare? the dems got it for us.

Universal, as long as you can afford it, What changed?
I bet you a hundred bucks (that a poor working class guy like me can
barely afford to lose) that this year's open season will have record
insurance price increases.


And that will have nothing to do with anything beyond greed. What is
needed in the next step...price controls...and then the beginnings of a
single payer system that eventually pushed the insurers out of the biz.
They do nothing but suck the lifeblood out of the economy.

we should have gone with a single provider/payer system like they do
in more successful countries. but the right would never permit it.

On 4/10/10 6:44 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:15:57 -0400,
wrote:

On 4/10/10 5:51 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 14:54:44 -0400, wrote:

The dems are supposed to be spending on the working class. No wonder
they lost all the flyover states.

ever hear of universal healthcare? the dems got it for us.

Universal, as long as you can afford it, What changed?
I bet you a hundred bucks (that a poor working class guy like me can
barely afford to lose) that this year's open season will have record
insurance price increases.


And that will have nothing to do with anything beyond greed. What is
needed in the next step...price controls...and then the beginnings of a
single payer system that eventually pushed the insurers out of the biz.
They do nothing but suck the lifeblood out of the economy.

we should have gone with a single provider/payer system like they do
in more successful countries. but the right would never permit it.



The insurance companies add absolutely nothing to the equation of
ensuring everyone has access to good medical care. In fact, they simply
make it more difficult.



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On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 20:05:09 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:48:50 -0400, hk
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The insurance companies add absolutely nothing to the equation of
ensuring everyone has access to good medical care. In fact, they simply
make it more difficult.

What insurance does is create a target rich environment for lawyers.
Between the two of them you are right, it is a huge drag on the
economy. We would actually be better off without any insurance at all
but then people would have to plan for their own futures and their own
problems,

actually no. the number of successful malpractice lawsuits is very
low.

and as to no insurance, what 3rd world country do you live in where
doctors earn minimum wage?

and the middle class can hardly prepare for their futures when the
rich refuse to even provide them a living wage

you really DO believe the right wing fairy tales, don't you?