On Apr 7, 9:46*pm, anon-e-moose wrote:
Larry wrote:
Don White wrote:
*wrote in message
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Nom should know about this.
Without any protected way to get from point A to B such as the ICW on
the east and Gulf coasts, isnt it a bit difficult to sail north up the
coast? *Do people sail northwards near shore or do they all go
WAAAAAAAY offshore?

Since the Gulf Stream turns westward two hundred miles south of us...we
don't have that worry.
The Labrador current may affect boats up around northern Cape Breton, but
that's what we have the Bras d'Or lakes for.
Along our 'mainland' coast, people sail where they want to...out far
enough
to avoid dangerous areas but not so far that ducking into numerous small
harbours for the night is difficult or time consuming.
You'd fit right in up here Froggy...the nicer marinas are few& *far
between
along the coast but every small community has a government wharf for the
commercial fishermen. If you like roughin' it...you could stay
anywhere at
minimal or no cost for the night.

How big is your sailboat, Don?

http://www.sandpiper565.com/

Don: I'd really like to get up your way some time cuz it looks very
pretty. It would require a change of mental attitude toward the
cold. I just expect water to be warm enough to swim in so I'd prob
jump overboard with no thought and die of hypothermia.
Once I talked to a guy from there and I could hardly understand
anything he said (it was probably mutual) his accent was so strong.
Even us educated North Florida rednecks seriously mangle the language.

"Loogypicker" wrote in message
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On Apr 7, 2:29 am, "CalifBill" wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message

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Nom should know about this.
Without any protected way to get from point A to B such as the ICW on
the east and Gulf coasts, isnt it a bit difficult to sail north up the
coast? Do people sail northwards near shore or do they all go
WAAAAAAAY offshore?

The stay not too far offshore, check the forecasts closely. There is a
southern current of 3-6 knots offshore a ways. Somepoints, not very far
offshore. The Humboldt current. Run for cover, which is scarce, in the
event they get caught with a big swell.

I was up in Ft. Bragg on time watching fishing boats going from the
protected cove there (there's also a marina) and going out to sea.
They'd hit the open part and all hell would break loose! Some of them
looked like it was all they could do to keep control of the boat
because of the surf. Oh, Noyo Harbor, that's what they called the
place.
Here's some coast guard practice, that entrance is one rough mother!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3JIx...eature=related

One of those places where you watch the weather and sea, before venturing
out. Last time I launched out of Noyo, the ocean was nice, but they were
working on the bridge rebuild and the channel was narrow under the bridge.
Plus the harbor is shallow over a lot of it. So have to watch the tides to
launch from the ramps.

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
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On Apr 7, 9:07 am, "Don White" wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message

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"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
Nom should know about this.
Without any protected way to get from point A to B such as the ICW on
the east and Gulf coasts, isnt it a bit difficult to sail north up the
coast? Do people sail northwards near shore or do they all go
WAAAAAAAY offshore?

Since the Gulf Stream turns westward two hundred miles south of us...we
don't have that worry.
The Labrador current may affect boats up around northern Cape Breton,
but
that's what we have the Bras d'Or lakes for.
Along our 'mainland' coast, people sail where they want to...out far
enough to avoid dangerous areas but not so far that ducking into
numerous
small harbours for the night is difficult or time consuming.
You'd fit right in up here Froggy...the nicer marinas are few & far
between along the coast but every small community has a government wharf
for the commercial fishermen. If you like roughin' it...you could stay
anywhere at minimal or no cost for the night.

Here's some info on those
wharves....http://www.closetothecoast.ca/map-hotspots.aspx

My curiosity was driven primarily by just reading "Two Years Before
the Mast" about a trading ship going up and down the Ca coast in the
1830s and how little protection there was from storms.

Loved that book. Still one of my favorites. Growing up next to San
Francisco Bay, and going out on both our boat and friends 63' boat you could
really understand the weather. Look at the coast of California and Southern
Cal, is not to bad up to Morro Bay. That is where the North part really
starts. Lots of fog, cold currents and large swells. Nothing from Morro to
Monterey, and that is at least 100 miles via water. Then from San Francisco
the next stop is Drakes Bay, which is semi protected, then Blowdega as it is
locally known. then Fort Bragg is about the next safe harbor. Then Eureka.
Lots of big waves and 600' cliffs and not a lot of stuff inbetween, except
for Shelter Cove on the "Lost Coast", which can get rough depending on wind
directions. http://www.sheltercove-lostcoast.com/

On Apr 7, 9:03*am, "Don White" wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message

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Nom should know about this.
Without any protected way to get from point A to B such as the ICW on
the east and Gulf coasts, isnt it a bit difficult to sail north up the
coast? *Do people sail northwards near shore or do they all go
WAAAAAAAY offshore?

Since the Gulf Stream turns westward two hundred miles south of us...we
don't have that worry.
The Labrador current may affect boats up around northern Cape Breton, but
that's what we have the Bras d'Or lakes for.
Along our 'mainland' coast, people sail where they want to...out far enough
to avoid dangerous areas but not so far that ducking into numerous small
harbours for the night is difficult or time consuming.
You'd fit right in up here Froggy...the nicer marinas are few & far between
along the coast but every small community has a government wharf for the
commercial fishermen. If you like roughin' it...you could stay anywhere at
minimal or no cost for the night.

And this has WHAT to do with sailing up and down the WEST coast of the
continent???

On Apr 8, 9:33*am, Loogypicker wrote:
On Apr 7, 9:03*am, "Don White" wrote:



"Frogwatch" wrote in message

....

Nom should know about this.
Without any protected way to get from point A to B such as the ICW on
the east and Gulf coasts, isnt it a bit difficult to sail north up the
coast? *Do people sail northwards near shore or do they all go
WAAAAAAAY offshore?

Since the Gulf Stream turns westward two hundred miles south of us...we
don't have that worry.
The Labrador current may affect boats up around northern Cape Breton, but
that's what we have the Bras d'Or lakes for.
Along our 'mainland' coast, people sail where they want to...out far enough
to avoid dangerous areas but not so far that ducking into numerous small
harbours for the night is difficult or time consuming.
You'd fit right in up here Froggy...the nicer marinas are few & far between
along the coast but every small community has a government wharf for the
commercial fishermen. If you like roughin' it...you could stay anywhere at
minimal or no cost for the night.

And this has WHAT to do with sailing up and down the WEST coast of the
continent???

In the late 80s, I spent a lot of time in Santa Barbara, CA and
thought it was wonderful except you could not afford to live there.
The contrast between how I saw Santa Barbara and how Dana saw it in
"Two Years Before the Mast" was huge. For him it was a difficult
place to land with no good anchorage and little civilization. It was
one of his least favorite places whereas he really liked San Diego.

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
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On Apr 7, 9:46 pm, anon-e-moose wrote:
Larry wrote:
Don White wrote:
wrote in message
...

Nom should know about this.
Without any protected way to get from point A to B such as the ICW on
the east and Gulf coasts, isnt it a bit difficult to sail north up the
coast? Do people sail northwards near shore or do they all go
WAAAAAAAY offshore?

Since the Gulf Stream turns westward two hundred miles south of us...we
don't have that worry.
The Labrador current may affect boats up around northern Cape Breton,
but
that's what we have the Bras d'Or lakes for.
Along our 'mainland' coast, people sail where they want to...out far
enough
to avoid dangerous areas but not so far that ducking into numerous
small
harbours for the night is difficult or time consuming.
You'd fit right in up here Froggy...the nicer marinas are few& far
between
along the coast but every small community has a government wharf for
the
commercial fishermen. If you like roughin' it...you could stay
anywhere at
minimal or no cost for the night.

How big is your sailboat, Don?

http://www.sandpiper565.com/

Don: I'd really like to get up your way some time cuz it looks very
pretty. It would require a change of mental attitude toward the
cold. I just expect water to be warm enough to swim in so I'd prob
jump overboard with no thought and die of hypothermia.
Once I talked to a guy from there and I could hardly understand
anything he said (it was probably mutual) his accent was so strong.
Even us educated North Florida rednecks seriously mangle the language.

The photos you see at that site provided by JungleJim are at least 1000
miles west of my sailing area .... some more like 1500 miles.

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
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On Apr 8, 9:33 am, Loogypicker wrote:
On Apr 7, 9:03 am, "Don White" wrote:



"Frogwatch" wrote in message

...

Nom should know about this.
Without any protected way to get from point A to B such as the ICW on
the east and Gulf coasts, isnt it a bit difficult to sail north up the
coast? Do people sail northwards near shore or do they all go
WAAAAAAAY offshore?

Since the Gulf Stream turns westward two hundred miles south of us...we
don't have that worry.
The Labrador current may affect boats up around northern Cape Breton,
but
that's what we have the Bras d'Or lakes for.
Along our 'mainland' coast, people sail where they want to...out far
enough
to avoid dangerous areas but not so far that ducking into numerous small
harbours for the night is difficult or time consuming.
You'd fit right in up here Froggy...the nicer marinas are few & far
between
along the coast but every small community has a government wharf for the
commercial fishermen. If you like roughin' it...you could stay anywhere
at
minimal or no cost for the night.

And this has WHAT to do with sailing up and down the WEST coast of the
continent???

In the late 80s, I spent a lot of time in Santa Barbara, CA and
thought it was wonderful except you could not afford to live there.
The contrast between how I saw Santa Barbara and how Dana saw it in
"Two Years Before the Mast" was huge. For him it was a difficult
place to land with no good anchorage and little civilization. It was
one of his least favorite places whereas he really liked San Diego.


SB is wildly expensive, that's true, but there are places that are more
affordable. San Diego is great too.
--
Nom=de=Plume

On Apr 8, 1:33*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message

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On Apr 8, 9:33 am, Loogypicker wrote:



On Apr 7, 9:03 am, "Don White" wrote:

"Frogwatch" wrote in message

....

Nom should know about this.
Without any protected way to get from point A to B such as the ICW on
the east and Gulf coasts, isnt it a bit difficult to sail north up the
coast? Do people sail northwards near shore or do they all go
WAAAAAAAY offshore?

Since the Gulf Stream turns westward two hundred miles south of us...we
don't have that worry.
The Labrador current may affect boats up around northern Cape Breton,
but
that's what we have the Bras d'Or lakes for.
Along our 'mainland' coast, people sail where they want to...out far
enough
to avoid dangerous areas but not so far that ducking into numerous small
harbours for the night is difficult or time consuming.
You'd fit right in up here Froggy...the nicer marinas are few & far
between
along the coast but every small community has a government wharf for the
commercial fishermen. If you like roughin' it...you could stay anywhere
at
minimal or no cost for the night.

And this has WHAT to do with sailing up and down the WEST coast of the
continent???
In the late 80s, I spent a lot of time in Santa Barbara, CA and
thought it was wonderful except you could not afford to live there.
The contrast between how I saw Santa Barbara and how Dana saw it in
"Two Years Before the Mast" was huge. *For him it was a difficult
place to land with no good anchorage and little civilization. *It was
one of his least favorite places whereas he really liked San Diego.

SB is wildly expensive, that's true, but there are places that are more
affordable. San Diego is great too.
--
Nom=de=Plume

When I was a kid and saw people swimming here in January, I asked my
mother what was wrong with them that they did not know it was cold.
She said, "other than being Canadian, nothing is wrong with them".

On Apr 8, 1:33*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message

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On Apr 8, 9:33 am, Loogypicker wrote:



On Apr 7, 9:03 am, "Don White" wrote:

"Frogwatch" wrote in message

....

Nom should know about this.
Without any protected way to get from point A to B such as the ICW on
the east and Gulf coasts, isnt it a bit difficult to sail north up the
coast? Do people sail northwards near shore or do they all go
WAAAAAAAY offshore?

Since the Gulf Stream turns westward two hundred miles south of us...we
don't have that worry.
The Labrador current may affect boats up around northern Cape Breton,
but
that's what we have the Bras d'Or lakes for.
Along our 'mainland' coast, people sail where they want to...out far
enough
to avoid dangerous areas but not so far that ducking into numerous small
harbours for the night is difficult or time consuming.
You'd fit right in up here Froggy...the nicer marinas are few & far
between
along the coast but every small community has a government wharf for the
commercial fishermen. If you like roughin' it...you could stay anywhere
at
minimal or no cost for the night.

And this has WHAT to do with sailing up and down the WEST coast of the
continent???
In the late 80s, I spent a lot of time in Santa Barbara, CA and
thought it was wonderful except you could not afford to live there.
The contrast between how I saw Santa Barbara and how Dana saw it in
"Two Years Before the Mast" was huge. *For him it was a difficult
place to land with no good anchorage and little civilization. *It was
one of his least favorite places whereas he really liked San Diego.

SB is wildly expensive, that's true, but there are places that are more
affordable. San Diego is great too.
--
Nom=de=Plume

Wife and I almost considered living aboard a 27' Ericson with our year
old daughter in Santa Barbara, glad we didn't do it.

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
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On Apr 8, 1:33 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message

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On Apr 8, 9:33 am, Loogypicker wrote:



On Apr 7, 9:03 am, "Don White" wrote:

"Frogwatch" wrote in message

...

Nom should know about this.
Without any protected way to get from point A to B such as the ICW
on
the east and Gulf coasts, isnt it a bit difficult to sail north up
the
coast? Do people sail northwards near shore or do they all go
WAAAAAAAY offshore?

Since the Gulf Stream turns westward two hundred miles south of
us...we
don't have that worry.
The Labrador current may affect boats up around northern Cape Breton,
but
that's what we have the Bras d'Or lakes for.
Along our 'mainland' coast, people sail where they want to...out far
enough
to avoid dangerous areas but not so far that ducking into numerous
small
harbours for the night is difficult or time consuming.
You'd fit right in up here Froggy...the nicer marinas are few & far
between
along the coast but every small community has a government wharf for
the
commercial fishermen. If you like roughin' it...you could stay
anywhere
at
minimal or no cost for the night.

And this has WHAT to do with sailing up and down the WEST coast of the
continent???
In the late 80s, I spent a lot of time in Santa Barbara, CA and
thought it was wonderful except you could not afford to live there.
The contrast between how I saw Santa Barbara and how Dana saw it in
"Two Years Before the Mast" was huge. For him it was a difficult
place to land with no good anchorage and little civilization. It was
one of his least favorite places whereas he really liked San Diego.

SB is wildly expensive, that's true, but there are places that are more
affordable. San Diego is great too.
--
Nom=de=Plume

When I was a kid and saw people swimming here in January, I asked my
mother what was wrong with them that they did not know it was cold.
She said, "other than being Canadian, nothing is wrong with them".


Canadians are wimps compared to Icelanders... but I don't like cold water
for more than 10 - 15 minutes or so. Lake Tahoe is an acquired taste. I
don't mind cold weather, however.
--
Nom=de=Plume