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Tired of the ICW
"Larry" wrote in message
... Don White wrote: wrote in message ... My 28' sailboat is now in Stuart, Fl after transiting the Okechobee waterway but I want to get to Bimini and then to the Berry Is. so I need to get to Miami. However, I am now very tired of the ICW so I would like to sail down the coast on the outside from Stuart to Miami. If I stay within 5 miles of land, will I have any problems with the Gulf Stream pushing me N.? Wouldn't the charts point this out? http://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/explor...estongyre.html He would need real-time information. That wasn't a chart, BTW. Umm... why? Did sailors of earlier times need real-time information to make such a trip? Sure, it'd be nice, but I doubt it's a matter of need. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On Apr 6, 6:22*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Larry" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: *wrote in message ... My 28' sailboat is now in Stuart, Fl after transiting the Okechobee waterway but I want to get to Bimini and then to the Berry Is. so I need to get to Miami. *However, I am now very tired of the ICW so I would like to sail down the coast on the outside from Stuart to Miami. *If I stay within 5 miles of land, will I have any problems with the Gulf Stream pushing me N.? Wouldn't the charts point this out? http://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/explor...round/geology/.... He would need real-time information. *That wasn't a chart, BTW. Umm... why? Did sailors of earlier times need real-time information to make such a trip? Sure, it'd be nice, but I doubt it's a matter of need. -- Nom=de=Plume A. I am a chicken fair weather sailor (really) B. 5 kts is slow and I want to get there. C. Knowing stuff keeps bad stuf from happening. D. Did I mention I am chicken? True, that was not a chart and so far it has been useless. |
#33
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"Larry" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: wrote in message ... My 28' sailboat is now in Stuart, Fl after transiting the Okechobee waterway but I want to get to Bimini and then to the Berry Is. so I need to get to Miami. However, I am now very tired of the ICW so I would like to sail down the coast on the outside from Stuart to Miami. If I stay within 5 miles of land, will I have any problems with the Gulf Stream pushing me N.? Wouldn't the charts point this out? http://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/explor...estongyre.html He would need real-time information. That wasn't a chart, BTW. Duh, no kidding! |
#34
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Frogwatch wrote:
On Apr 6, 6:22 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Larry" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: wrote in message ... My 28' sailboat is now in Stuart, Fl after transiting the Okechobee waterway but I want to get to Bimini and then to the Berry Is. so I need to get to Miami. However, I am now very tired of the ICW so I would like to sail down the coast on the outside from Stuart to Miami. If I stay within 5 miles of land, will I have any problems with the Gulf Stream pushing me N.? Wouldn't the charts point this out? http://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/explor...round/geology/... He would need real-time information. That wasn't a chart, BTW. Umm... why? Did sailors of earlier times need real-time information to make such a trip? Sure, it'd be nice, but I doubt it's a matter of need. -- Nom=de=Plume A. I am a chicken fair weather sailor (really) B. 5 kts is slow and I want to get there. C. Knowing stuff keeps bad stuf from happening. D. Did I mention I am chicken? True, that was not a chart and so far it has been useless. When you get to the jump-off point, be sure to form up with others for the crossing. You'll do fine. Jim |
#35
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Tired of the ICW
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
... On Apr 6, 6:22 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Larry" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: wrote in message ... My 28' sailboat is now in Stuart, Fl after transiting the Okechobee waterway but I want to get to Bimini and then to the Berry Is. so I need to get to Miami. However, I am now very tired of the ICW so I would like to sail down the coast on the outside from Stuart to Miami. If I stay within 5 miles of land, will I have any problems with the Gulf Stream pushing me N.? Wouldn't the charts point this out? http://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/explor...round/geology/... He would need real-time information. That wasn't a chart, BTW. Umm... why? Did sailors of earlier times need real-time information to make such a trip? Sure, it'd be nice, but I doubt it's a matter of need. -- Nom=de=Plume A. I am a chicken fair weather sailor (really) B. 5 kts is slow and I want to get there. C. Knowing stuff keeps bad stuf from happening. D. Did I mention I am chicken? True, that was not a chart and so far it has been useless. While I enjoyed your list and certainly agree about erring on the side of caution, I was really responding to the nonsensical notion of "needing" real time information beyond simple observation. -- Nom=de=Plume |
#36
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"Frogwatch" wrote in message ... On Apr 6, 6:22 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Larry" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: wrote in message ... My 28' sailboat is now in Stuart, Fl after transiting the Okechobee waterway but I want to get to Bimini and then to the Berry Is. so I need to get to Miami. However, I am now very tired of the ICW so I would like to sail down the coast on the outside from Stuart to Miami. If I stay within 5 miles of land, will I have any problems with the Gulf Stream pushing me N.? Wouldn't the charts point this out? http://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/explor...round/geology/... He would need real-time information. That wasn't a chart, BTW. Umm... why? Did sailors of earlier times need real-time information to make such a trip? Sure, it'd be nice, but I doubt it's a matter of need. -- Nom=de=Plume A. I am a chicken fair weather sailor (really) B. 5 kts is slow and I want to get there. C. Knowing stuff keeps bad stuf from happening. D. Did I mention I am chicken? True, that was not a chart and so far it has been useless. --------- http://www.charts.noaa.gov/OnLineViewer/11460.shtml not as good as the paper kind |
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Tired of the ICW
On Tue, 6 Apr 2010 15:50:31 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote: Center axis or mid-point (both vertically and horizontally would be an issue), so the axis must be in the center of the channel. There is no channel, the Gulf Stream is free running although it favors the deeper water off the continental shelf. Center axis and mid-point have approximately the same meaning applied to the stream; it is basically the region of strongest current flow and it varies over time as the stream meanders. The farther you get from the center axis/mid-point, the weaker the current. The eastern edge of the stream is constrained by the Bahamas Banks, approximately 40 miles from the center axis, the western edge of the stream is constrained by the Florida shore which at times is only 6 to 8 miles off axis. |
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Tired of the ICW
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
... On Tue, 6 Apr 2010 15:50:31 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Center axis or mid-point (both vertically and horizontally would be an issue), so the axis must be in the center of the channel. There is no channel, the Gulf Stream is free running although it favors the deeper water off the continental shelf. Center axis and mid-point have approximately the same meaning applied to the stream; it is basically the region of strongest current flow and it varies over time as the stream meanders. The farther you get from the center axis/mid-point, the weaker the current. The eastern edge of the stream is constrained by the Bahamas Banks, approximately 40 miles from the center axis, the western edge of the stream is constrained by the Florida shore which at times is only 6 to 8 miles off axis. Interesting... learned something new about the GS. Thanks! -- Nom=de=Plume |
#39
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Tired of the ICW
nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message ... Don White wrote: wrote in message ... My 28' sailboat is now in Stuart, Fl after transiting the Okechobee waterway but I want to get to Bimini and then to the Berry Is. so I need to get to Miami. However, I am now very tired of the ICW so I would like to sail down the coast on the outside from Stuart to Miami. If I stay within 5 miles of land, will I have any problems with the Gulf Stream pushing me N.? Wouldn't the charts point this out? http://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/explor...estongyre.html He would need real-time information. That wasn't a chart, BTW. Umm... why? Did sailors of earlier times need real-time information to make such a trip? Sure, it'd be nice, but I doubt it's a matter of need. You are shopping for a tiny sailboat? You should realize your aren't qualified to comment on every post you read. |
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Tired of the ICW
Don White wrote:
wrote in message ... Don White wrote: wrote in message ... My 28' sailboat is now in Stuart, Fl after transiting the Okechobee waterway but I want to get to Bimini and then to the Berry Is. so I need to get to Miami. However, I am now very tired of the ICW so I would like to sail down the coast on the outside from Stuart to Miami. If I stay within 5 miles of land, will I have any problems with the Gulf Stream pushing me N.? Wouldn't the charts point this out? http://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/explor...estongyre.html He would need real-time information. That wasn't a chart, BTW. Duh, no kidding! So why did you suggest that a chart would point out real-time data? |
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