"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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Sorry, but I've never read that in any of John's posts.
Have you? Or are you just trying to stipulate that as a fact to further
you arguments?

Eisboch



Here's the quote... the last sentence seems to support the argument.

"Nah. Obama will do his thing, and there's nothing any amount of talking
or
name-calling here will do about it. I and mine are taken care of."

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Nom=de=Plume




Supports the argument? Please.

First of all, the statement in question was made by Harry, not John.
Specifically, Harry said, "Not the point. It's the "I've got mine, so f&%$
you" attitude of his."

John never said that.

As to your reference, my interpretation is that John was simply stating that
he has his primary responsibilities covered. He paid his dues to accomplish
that. It's too bad many others don't.
But, I don't sense any attitude in his statement that he is not supportive
to those who are less fortunate.

Your first responsibility is to your immediate family. Once those bases are
covered, you should help others, based on your beliefs and principles.

It's the big "R" word preceded by the "P" word. "Personal Responsibility"

Imagine if everyone subscribed to that?

Eisboch

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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Sorry, but I've never read that in any of John's posts.
Have you? Or are you just trying to stipulate that as a fact to
further you arguments?

Eisboch



Here's the quote... the last sentence seems to support the argument.

"Nah. Obama will do his thing, and there's nothing any amount of talking
or
name-calling here will do about it. I and mine are taken care of."

--
Nom=de=Plume




Supports the argument? Please.

First of all, the statement in question was made by Harry, not John.
Specifically, Harry said, "Not the point. It's the "I've got mine, so
f&%$ you" attitude of his."

John never said that.

He said as I quoted, and I stand by my assessment.


As to your reference, my interpretation is that John was simply stating
that he has his primary responsibilities covered. He paid his dues to
accomplish that. It's too bad many others don't.
But, I don't sense any attitude in his statement that he is not supportive
to those who are less fortunate.

That's both overly generous and isn't supported by much of his posts. He's
continually uninterested in anyone who is less fortunate. Feel free to look
up his many posts. I certainly am not going to do that for you.


Your first responsibility is to your immediate family. Once those bases
are covered, you should help others, based on your beliefs and principles.

It's the big "R" word preceded by the "P" word. "Personal
Responsibility"

Imagine if everyone subscribed to that?

Nothing wrong with personal responsibility. There's a lot wrong with his
attitude about others. As I said, look it up.

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Nom=de=Plume

Eisboch wrote:
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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Sorry, but I've never read that in any of John's posts.
Have you? Or are you just trying to stipulate that as a fact to further
you arguments?

Eisboch


Here's the quote... the last sentence seems to support the argument.

"Nah. Obama will do his thing, and there's nothing any amount of talking
or
name-calling here will do about it. I and mine are taken care of."

--
Nom=de=Plume




Supports the argument? Please.

First of all, the statement in question was made by Harry, not John.
Specifically, Harry said, "Not the point. It's the "I've got mine, so f&%$
you" attitude of his."

John never said that.

As to your reference, my interpretation is that John was simply stating that
he has his primary responsibilities covered. He paid his dues to accomplish
that. It's too bad many others don't.
But, I don't sense any attitude in his statement that he is not supportive
to those who are less fortunate.

Your first responsibility is to your immediate family. Once those bases are
covered, you should help others, based on your beliefs and principles.

It's the big "R" word preceded by the "P" word. "Personal Responsibility"

Imagine if everyone subscribed to that?

Eisboch


Ever hear the song "Imagine" by John Lennon?
That's what he was thinking about when he wrote it, then sang it.
Personal Responsibility.
I just realized that, thanks to your insight.

Jim - Libs don't even understand other libs.

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
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Nothing wrong with personal responsibility. There's a lot wrong with his
attitude about others. As I said, look it up.

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Nom=de=Plume


Sorry. I don't play that game. You made the accusations. Back them up.

Eisboch

"I am Tosk" wrote in message
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I think the part of service that folks don't take into account is you
have signed on the dotted to take or even, give a life at any time, when
called upon to do it...

Scotty



I *did*?

Holy Crap!

Eisboch

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"I am Tosk" wrote in message
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I think the part of service that folks don't take into account is you
have signed on the dotted to take or even, give a life at any time, when
called upon to do it...

Scotty



I *did*?

Holy Crap!

Eisboch


I did not sign to give a life. It would have be be taken from me with a lot
of me trying to take the other guys first.

Which is nice for both of you, but you didn't address hk's point, which is
that he's basically saying he's got his and he doesn't care about anyone
else.

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Nom=de=Plume

For hk, that would be a correct assumption.

Now it is addressed.

On Apr 1, 1:56*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"anon-e-moose" wrote in message

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nom=de=plume wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
om...
"hk" wrote in message
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On 4/1/10 7:47 AM, Eisboch wrote:
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How's that surgery of the week doing for ya, Johnny Boy? Kinda cuts
down
on hopey-changey for you, eh? Got that surgical suite booked for your
next
"incident"?

Oh...I read the post under question for "content." The content was
easy...it was just a restatement of the usual conservative's "I've
got
mine, so **** you."

Let's see here ...

John earned his for him and his family by fulfilling a 20+ year
contract
with the US military serving at the pleasure at several US Presidents.

You earn yours by keeping your union dues paid up to date.

Who sacrificed more for his?

Eisboch

Not the point. It's the "I've got mine, so **** you" attitude of his..

And what sacrifice? Herring was in the military voluntarily.

I don't know when John entered military service. *I think he's of the
same vintage as you and I, and I know I entered "voluntarily" *to avoid
entering "involuntarily". * He may not have been so lucky.
I don't know.

Once in, many decide to make it a career. *Reasons vary per the
individual. I didn't make it a full career with retirement benefits, but
I did nine years to "pay" for educational programs that were offered.

Everyone makes their way through life in their own way. *To do so
responsibly, honestly, raising a family and providing for them is key,
not what your title or social status is to others.

You want sacrifice, consider a factory worker who spends 20 years on
the job and is pink-slipped, losing health care and quite probably a
good chunk of pension benefits.
Maybe they should have joined the Army. * *Just kidding. *But that said,
it does raise a point.
For some, military or government careers provide the financial and
retirement benefits that many seek. * Whats wrong with that? * The bulk
of the US Senate does the same thing. *Career politicians with decent
salaries, fantastic benefits and huge expense accounts. *Talk about
milking the system.

Eisboch

Which is nice for both of you, but you didn't address hk's point, which
is that he's basically saying he's got his and he doesn't care about
anyone else.

Harry is full of ****e. If you want to address Harry, be my guest. I sense
that you are too afraid of him to engage *him though.

Full of it or not, he made a valid point, which hasn't been addressed. Looks
like you're not going to address it either. Why is that typical...

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Nom=de=Plume

Keep spinning D'Plume. You're proven you're not average some time ago.
But it doesn't hurt to show you are maintaining your selective
competence levels.

On Apr 1, 4:45*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"anon-e-moose" wrote in message



You don't see a lot. Perhaps you should look in the mirror. Oh wait.. that
won't solve the problem.

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Nom=de=Plume

Spoken with the voice of experience, D'Plume?

On 4/1/10 8:37 PM, Eisboch wrote:
"I am wrote in message
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I think the part of service that folks don't take into account is you
have signed on the dotted to take or even, give a life at any time, when
called upon to do it...

Scotty



I *did*?

Holy Crap!

Eisboch



So do firemen, police, schoolteachers, et cetera.


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Conservatives - just pretend Obama's health care legislation is another
unnecessary war and you'll feel better about it.