"jps" wrote in message
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On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 16:43:50 -0500, Peter Prick
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 01:32:00 -0500, Larry wrote:

jps wrote:
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 09:12:11 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"hk" wrote in message
m...
I think " necessary health care" and "subsidized health care
insurance"
are
two different things.

Eisboch


No "other words" are needed. I believe health insurance or a
national
health plan should be mandatory, and if you legitimately cannot
afford the
insurance, it should be subsidized for you and your family to the
degree
necessary.

The hang-up I still have is the difference between a mandatory
health
insurance program and the right to free or subsidized (tax
supported) health
care for life threatening or disabling conditions. Mandatory
health
insurance puts another massive layer of bureaucracy, private or
government,
into the mix. When it comes to getting care, that has never been a
good
thing.

A mandatory health insurance law is in effect here in MA. For
those who
can't afford the subsidized insurance (state programs) it is cheaper
to pay
the fine (assuming the state even enforces the collection of them,
which I
doubt.)

Tough call. I guess my attitude is that those of us that are
fortunate
enough to be able to afford decent health insurance also have a
moral
obligation to assist those who need medical care (though a tax or
increased
insurance premium) for those who cannot afford insurance. But to
subsidize
health *insurance* programs is another matter.

Eisboch

Are you suggesting that those that can afford it pay retail, but
those
who need subsidized care get it through some other method?

Not sure I understand.

The guy lays out a detailed plan to provide health care for all, and
you
bitch about it. Unless you have a better plan, quit criticizing.

What about my post was bitching? Do you actually read or just jerk a
spasmotic knee?

It was a question about clarification, you dweeb, not an accusation or
bitch.

Clarify what? I didn't see a "detailed plan" anywhere, nor any
"bitching."
You gentlemen seem more interested in one-upmanship than real
discussion.
Very disappointing.

Peter, I was asking Richard what he meant by not subsidizing a health
insurance program.

My aim was true but some jerk claimed I was bitching. I think he
should start reading for content and, otherwise STFU.

I don't really give a **** if you're disappointed but perhaps you
should be more accurately so.

Why would you like to subsidize insurance? The insurance industry is
ecstatic over this healthcare bill. They love Obama. Got another 35
million customers. Can charge what they want. Main reason their stock
prices increased 12% in the runup to the passing of the bill.