On 30/03/2010 12:32 AM, Larry wrote:
jps wrote:
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 09:12:11 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"hk" wrote in message
m...
I think " necessary health care" and "subsidized health care
insurance" are
two different things.

Eisboch


No "other words" are needed. I believe health insurance or a
national health plan should be mandatory, and if you legitimately
cannot afford the insurance, it should be subsidized for you and
your family to the degree necessary.

The hang-up I still have is the difference between a mandatory health
insurance program and the right to free or subsidized (tax supported)
health care for life threatening or disabling conditions. Mandatory
health insurance puts another massive layer of bureaucracy, private
or government, into the mix. When it comes to getting care, that has
never been a good thing.

A mandatory health insurance law is in effect here in MA. For those
who can't afford the subsidized insurance (state programs) it is
cheaper to pay the fine (assuming the state even enforces the
collection of them, which I doubt.)

Tough call. I guess my attitude is that those of us that are
fortunate enough to be able to afford decent health insurance also
have a moral obligation to assist those who need medical care (though
a tax or increased insurance premium) for those who cannot afford
insurance. But to subsidize health *insurance* programs is another
matter.

Eisboch

Are you suggesting that those that can afford it pay retail, but those
who need subsidized care get it through some other method?

Not sure I understand.

The guy lays out a detailed plan to provide health care for all, and you
bitch about it. Unless you have a better plan, quit criticizing.

There are better plans.

First point, why not have it's funding go into a seperate pool so people
know the EXACT cost, why general revenue? Here is a hint, it isn't
about health care, it is about government revenue and skiming.

I could go on but it is a waste of time. Obama should have consulted
people who have lived under multiple plans for extended periods of time
for a good plan and anwer but like I said, it isn't about health care,
it is about government revenue.
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