On Mar 24, 1:15*pm, hk wrote:
On 3/24/10 5:09 PM, jps wrote:



On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:34:53 -0400, anon-e-moose
*wrote:

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Democratic lawmakers facing death threats after health bill signed
Posted: March 24, 2010, 9:58 AM by Ron Nurwisah
U.S. Politics, health care

A number of Democratic congressman are enraged due to a series of
threats leveled not just at them but also at their families just days
after the controversial health care bill passed through the House of
Representatives and was signed into law by President Barack Obama..

Congresswoman Louise Slaughter reported that her office was damaged by
vandals, and received phone calls threatening her children and grand
children. Similar threats were leveled at Michigan Democrat Bart Stupak
and Ohio's Steve Driehaus.

* From Politico:

* * *Slaughter, a Democrat who chairs the House Rules Committee, said a
caller to her office last week vowed to send snipers to “kill the
children of the members who voted yes.” Her office reported the call to
police, who were dispatched to provide protection for Slaughter’s
grandchildren. She has also been in touch with the FBI and U.S. Postal
Service inspectors, who intercepted a letter en route to her home in
upstate New York.

* * *Stupak, the Michigan Democrat whose last-minute compromise on
abortion guaranteed passage of the bill Sunday, said callers have left
messages for him saying, “You’re dead; we know where you live; we’ll
get you.”

Rhetoric in the final days and hours of the debate around the health
care got particularly heated. Texas representative Randy Neugebauer
received both condemnation and praise after shouting 'baby killer'
allegedly at Democrat Bart Stupak. Neugebauer later said the insult was
hurled at no one in particular.

Earlier during the weekend, a number of black Congressman reported that
protesters hurled racial slurs at them. One congressman, civil rights
leader James Clyburn, claimed that some of the faxes he received
included an image of a noose and racial slurs. Prominent Massachusetts
Congressman Barney Frank, one of the only openly gay members of
Congress, was the victim of homophobic insults.

Tea Party and GOP leadership has condemned these racial slurs.

* From Fox News:

* * *Republican National Chairman Michael Steele and one of the
organizers of Saturday's Tea Party rally strongly condemned the racial
slurs that some black lawmakers alleged were yelled at them by some
health care protesters as they headed for a procedural vote at Capitol
Hill.

* * *"I absolutely think it's isolated," Amy Kremer, the grassroots
coordinator of the Tea Party Express, told Fox News on Sunday. "It's
disgraceful and the people in this movement won't tolerate it because
that's not what we're about."

Read mo
http://network.nationalpost.com/NP/b...0/03/24/de...-

News nets are now reporting the above, with interviews of a number of
elected officials who have received threats.

The conservative way...shoot 'em all.

What a country this is.
Has this country been as divided as it is now, since the civil war?
Don't know. Just askin.

What difference does it make if it's better or worse than at some point
in history.... Why don't you blame the Democrats for it. Instead of where
it really belongs... racial slurs, spitting on people, death threats,
actually murdering doctors.

Do you really think that would help? Probably not. The blame game is a
liberals thing anyway.

The blame game is the fear-based tactics of the right. Have at it.

It seems you have run out of steam. I'll check in with you sometime in
the future. Ta Ta

Newman.

The threats of violence were predictable. The Republican leadership, its
hate-mongering media personalities, and the racist right-wing trash in
the teabaggers movement have been flaming the fires among their moronic
followers.

To quote a great American (Goldwater): "Extremism in defense of
liberty is no vice" and I posit a corollary: "Any defense of tyranny
is a vice".
Attacks on individual freedoms by a majority have no legitimacy
regardless of whether they are blessed by a court or not.

On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 15:05:48 -0400, hk
wrote:


Democratic lawmakers facing death threats after health bill signed
Posted: March 24, 2010, 9:58 AM by Ron Nurwisah
U.S. Politics, health care

the essence of conservatism is fascism

On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 15:14:47 -0400, anon-e-moose
wrote:



Has this country been as divided as it is now, since the civil war?
Don't know. Just askin.

conservatives have been playing divide and conquer since johnson
signed the civil rights act

Frogwatch wrote:
On Mar 24, 1:15 pm, hk wrote:
On 3/24/10 5:09 PM, jps wrote:



On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:34:53 -0400, anon-e-moose
wrote:
nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
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hk wrote:
Democratic lawmakers facing death threats after health bill signed
Posted: March 24, 2010, 9:58 AM by Ron Nurwisah
U.S. Politics, health care
A number of Democratic congressman are enraged due to a series of
threats leveled not just at them but also at their families just days
after the controversial health care bill passed through the House of
Representatives and was signed into law by President Barack Obama.
Congresswoman Louise Slaughter reported that her office was damaged by
vandals, and received phone calls threatening her children and grand
children. Similar threats were leveled at Michigan Democrat Bart Stupak
and Ohio's Steve Driehaus.
From Politico:
Slaughter, a Democrat who chairs the House Rules Committee, said a
caller to her office last week vowed to send snipers to “kill the
children of the members who voted yes.” Her office reported the call to
police, who were dispatched to provide protection for Slaughter’s
grandchildren. She has also been in touch with the FBI and U.S. Postal
Service inspectors, who intercepted a letter en route to her home in
upstate New York.
Stupak, the Michigan Democrat whose last-minute compromise on
abortion guaranteed passage of the bill Sunday, said callers have left
messages for him saying, “You’re dead; we know where you live; we’ll
get you.”
Rhetoric in the final days and hours of the debate around the health
care got particularly heated. Texas representative Randy Neugebauer
received both condemnation and praise after shouting 'baby killer'
allegedly at Democrat Bart Stupak. Neugebauer later said the insult was
hurled at no one in particular.
Earlier during the weekend, a number of black Congressman reported that
protesters hurled racial slurs at them. One congressman, civil rights
leader James Clyburn, claimed that some of the faxes he received
included an image of a noose and racial slurs. Prominent Massachusetts
Congressman Barney Frank, one of the only openly gay members of
Congress, was the victim of homophobic insults.
Tea Party and GOP leadership has condemned these racial slurs.
From Fox News:
Republican National Chairman Michael Steele and one of the
organizers of Saturday's Tea Party rally strongly condemned the racial
slurs that some black lawmakers alleged were yelled at them by some
health care protesters as they headed for a procedural vote at Capitol
Hill.
"I absolutely think it's isolated," Amy Kremer, the grassroots
coordinator of the Tea Party Express, told Fox News on Sunday. "It's
disgraceful and the people in this movement won't tolerate it because
that's not what we're about."
Read mo
http://network.nationalpost.com/NP/b...0/03/24/de...-
News nets are now reporting the above, with interviews of a number of
elected officials who have received threats.
The conservative way...shoot 'em all.
What a country this is.
Has this country been as divided as it is now, since the civil war?
Don't know. Just askin.
What difference does it make if it's better or worse than at some point
in history.... Why don't you blame the Democrats for it. Instead of where
it really belongs... racial slurs, spitting on people, death threats,
actually murdering doctors.
Do you really think that would help? Probably not. The blame game is a
liberals thing anyway.
The blame game is the fear-based tactics of the right. Have at it.
It seems you have run out of steam. I'll check in with you sometime in
the future. Ta Ta
Newman.
The threats of violence were predictable. The Republican leadership, its
hate-mongering media personalities, and the racist right-wing trash in
the teabaggers movement have been flaming the fires among their moronic
followers.

To quote a great American (Goldwater): "Extremism in defense of
liberty is no vice" and I posit a corollary: "Any defense of tyranny
is a vice".
Attacks on individual freedoms by a majority have no legitimacy
regardless of whether they are blessed by a court or not.

Libs don't understand that words can be used to justify violence.
We do.
I beat the **** out out my wife one time, because she used the wrong
words on me, and didn't put enough sugar in my iced tea.
She snuck into the bedroom and called the cops.
When they showed up I sweet talked her and the cops and they went away.
Power of words.
We get it, me and you.

Jim - Goldwater fan.

On Mar 24, 3:18*pm, Jim wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
On Mar 24, 1:15 pm, hk wrote:
On 3/24/10 5:09 PM, jps wrote:

On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:34:53 -0400, anon-e-moose
*wrote:
nom=de=plume wrote:
*wrote in message
om...
nom=de=plume wrote:
*wrote in message
. com...
hk wrote:
Democratic lawmakers facing death threats after health bill signed
Posted: March 24, 2010, 9:58 AM by Ron Nurwisah
U.S. Politics, health care
A number of Democratic congressman are enraged due to a series of
threats leveled not just at them but also at their families just days
after the controversial health care bill passed through the House of
Representatives and was signed into law by President Barack Obama.
Congresswoman Louise Slaughter reported that her office was damaged by
vandals, and received phone calls threatening her children and grand
children. Similar threats were leveled at Michigan Democrat Bart Stupak
and Ohio's Steve Driehaus.
* From Politico:
* * *Slaughter, a Democrat who chairs the House Rules Committee, said a
caller to her office last week vowed to send snipers to “kill the
children of the members who voted yes.” Her office reported the call to
police, who were dispatched to provide protection for Slaughter’s
grandchildren. She has also been in touch with the FBI and U.S. Postal
Service inspectors, who intercepted a letter en route to her home in
upstate New York.
* * *Stupak, the Michigan Democrat whose last-minute compromise on
abortion guaranteed passage of the bill Sunday, said callers have left
messages for him saying, “You’re dead; we know where you live; we’ll
get you.”
Rhetoric in the final days and hours of the debate around the health
care got particularly heated. Texas representative Randy Neugebauer
received both condemnation and praise after shouting 'baby killer'
allegedly at Democrat Bart Stupak. Neugebauer later said the insult was
hurled at no one in particular.
Earlier during the weekend, a number of black Congressman reported that
protesters hurled racial slurs at them. One congressman, civil rights
leader James Clyburn, claimed that some of the faxes he received
included an image of a noose and racial slurs. Prominent Massachusetts
Congressman Barney Frank, one of the only openly gay members of
Congress, was the victim of homophobic insults.
Tea Party and GOP leadership has condemned these racial slurs.
* From Fox News:
* * *Republican National Chairman Michael Steele and one of the
organizers of Saturday's Tea Party rally strongly condemned the racial
slurs that some black lawmakers alleged were yelled at them by some
health care protesters as they headed for a procedural vote at Capitol
Hill.
* * *"I absolutely think it's isolated," Amy Kremer, the grassroots
coordinator of the Tea Party Express, told Fox News on Sunday. "It's
disgraceful and the people in this movement won't tolerate it because
that's not what we're about."
Read mo
http://network.nationalpost.com/NP/b.../2010/03/24/de...
News nets are now reporting the above, with interviews of a number of
elected officials who have received threats.
The conservative way...shoot 'em all.
What a country this is.
Has this country been as divided as it is now, since the civil war?
Don't know. Just askin.
What difference does it make if it's better or worse than at some point
in history.... Why don't you blame the Democrats for it. Instead of where
it really belongs... racial slurs, spitting on people, death threats,
actually murdering doctors.
Do you really think that would help? Probably not. The blame game is a
liberals thing anyway.
The blame game is the fear-based tactics of the right. Have at it.
It seems you have run out of steam. I'll check in with you sometime in
the future. Ta Ta
Newman.
The threats of violence were predictable. The Republican leadership, its
hate-mongering media personalities, and the racist right-wing trash in
the teabaggers movement have been flaming the fires among their moronic
followers.

To quote a great American (Goldwater): *"Extremism in defense of
liberty is no vice" *and I posit a corollary: "Any defense of tyranny
is a vice".
Attacks on individual freedoms by a majority have no legitimacy
regardless of whether they are blessed by a court or not.

Libs don't understand that words can be used to justify violence.
We do.
I beat the **** out out my wife one time, because she used the wrong
words on me, and didn't put enough sugar in my iced tea.
She snuck into the bedroom and called the cops.
When they showed up I sweet talked her and the cops and they went away.
Power of words.
We get it, me and you.

Jim - Goldwater fan.

When the U.S. government decides that these words:

"that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable
Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of
Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted
among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the
governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of
these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it,"

constitute sedition, then it will be time to do just what the words
say. Note "consent of the governed". I do not consent to being
forced to buy something I do not want. I do not give consent to
having the tenth amendment ignored, when it is ignored, then the
Constitution is meaningless and the Declaration takes precedence.

On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:04:49 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Mar 24, 1:15*pm, hk wrote:
On 3/24/10 5:09 PM, jps wrote:



On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:34:53 -0400, anon-e-moose
*wrote:

nom=de=plume wrote:
*wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
*wrote in message
m...
hk wrote:
Democratic lawmakers facing death threats after health bill signed
Posted: March 24, 2010, 9:58 AM by Ron Nurwisah
U.S. Politics, health care

A number of Democratic congressman are enraged due to a series of
threats leveled not just at them but also at their families just days
after the controversial health care bill passed through the House of
Representatives and was signed into law by President Barack Obama.

Congresswoman Louise Slaughter reported that her office was damaged by
vandals, and received phone calls threatening her children and grand
children. Similar threats were leveled at Michigan Democrat Bart Stupak
and Ohio's Steve Driehaus.

* From Politico:

* * *Slaughter, a Democrat who chairs the House Rules Committee, said a
caller to her office last week vowed to send snipers to “kill the
children of the members who voted yes.” Her office reported the call to
police, who were dispatched to provide protection for Slaughter’s
grandchildren. She has also been in touch with the FBI and U.S. Postal
Service inspectors, who intercepted a letter en route to her home in
upstate New York.

* * *Stupak, the Michigan Democrat whose last-minute compromise on
abortion guaranteed passage of the bill Sunday, said callers have left
messages for him saying, “You’re dead; we know where you live; we’ll
get you.”

Rhetoric in the final days and hours of the debate around the health
care got particularly heated. Texas representative Randy Neugebauer
received both condemnation and praise after shouting 'baby killer'
allegedly at Democrat Bart Stupak. Neugebauer later said the insult was
hurled at no one in particular.

Earlier during the weekend, a number of black Congressman reported that
protesters hurled racial slurs at them. One congressman, civil rights
leader James Clyburn, claimed that some of the faxes he received
included an image of a noose and racial slurs. Prominent Massachusetts
Congressman Barney Frank, one of the only openly gay members of
Congress, was the victim of homophobic insults.

Tea Party and GOP leadership has condemned these racial slurs.

* From Fox News:

* * *Republican National Chairman Michael Steele and one of the
organizers of Saturday's Tea Party rally strongly condemned the racial
slurs that some black lawmakers alleged were yelled at them by some
health care protesters as they headed for a procedural vote at Capitol
Hill.

* * *"I absolutely think it's isolated," Amy Kremer, the grassroots
coordinator of the Tea Party Express, told Fox News on Sunday. "It's
disgraceful and the people in this movement won't tolerate it because
that's not what we're about."

Read mo
http://network.nationalpost.com/NP/b...0/03/24/de...-

News nets are now reporting the above, with interviews of a number of
elected officials who have received threats.

The conservative way...shoot 'em all.

What a country this is.
Has this country been as divided as it is now, since the civil war?
Don't know. Just askin.

What difference does it make if it's better or worse than at some point
in history.... Why don't you blame the Democrats for it. Instead of where
it really belongs... racial slurs, spitting on people, death threats,
actually murdering doctors.

Do you really think that would help? Probably not. The blame game is a
liberals thing anyway.

The blame game is the fear-based tactics of the right. Have at it.

It seems you have run out of steam. I'll check in with you sometime in
the future. Ta Ta

Newman.

The threats of violence were predictable. The Republican leadership, its
hate-mongering media personalities, and the racist right-wing trash in
the teabaggers movement have been flaming the fires among their moronic
followers.

To quote a great American (Goldwater): "Extremism in defense of
liberty is no vice" and I posit a corollary: "Any defense of tyranny
is a vice".
Attacks on individual freedoms by a majority have no legitimacy
regardless of whether they are blessed by a court or not.

And health insurance meets this criteria while sending our fellow
Americans to their deaths for a lie is fine.

You betcha.

On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 19:10:10 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 15:14:47 -0400, anon-e-moose
wrote:



Has this country been as divided as it is now, since the civil war?
Don't know. Just askin.

conservatives have been playing divide and conquer since johnson
signed the civil rights act

I think it was Reagan who was talking about how medicare (early
sixties?) was the end of everything private. Government would be in
every part of your life in no time.

Wouldn't want to be a census worker this year. Too many loons out
there eating that **** up.

Frogwatch wrote:
On Mar 24, 3:18 pm, Jim wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
On Mar 24, 1:15 pm, hk wrote:
On 3/24/10 5:09 PM, jps wrote:
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:34:53 -0400, anon-e-moose
wrote:
nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
...
hk wrote:
Democratic lawmakers facing death threats after health bill signed
Posted: March 24, 2010, 9:58 AM by Ron Nurwisah
U.S. Politics, health care
A number of Democratic congressman are enraged due to a series of
threats leveled not just at them but also at their families just days
after the controversial health care bill passed through the House of
Representatives and was signed into law by President Barack Obama.
Congresswoman Louise Slaughter reported that her office was damaged by
vandals, and received phone calls threatening her children and grand
children. Similar threats were leveled at Michigan Democrat Bart Stupak
and Ohio's Steve Driehaus.
From Politico:
Slaughter, a Democrat who chairs the House Rules Committee, said a
caller to her office last week vowed to send snipers to “kill the
children of the members who voted yes.” Her office reported the call to
police, who were dispatched to provide protection for Slaughter’s
grandchildren. She has also been in touch with the FBI and U.S. Postal
Service inspectors, who intercepted a letter en route to her home in
upstate New York.
Stupak, the Michigan Democrat whose last-minute compromise on
abortion guaranteed passage of the bill Sunday, said callers have left
messages for him saying, “You’re dead; we know where you live; we’ll
get you.”
Rhetoric in the final days and hours of the debate around the health
care got particularly heated. Texas representative Randy Neugebauer
received both condemnation and praise after shouting 'baby killer'
allegedly at Democrat Bart Stupak. Neugebauer later said the insult was
hurled at no one in particular.
Earlier during the weekend, a number of black Congressman reported that
protesters hurled racial slurs at them. One congressman, civil rights
leader James Clyburn, claimed that some of the faxes he received
included an image of a noose and racial slurs. Prominent Massachusetts
Congressman Barney Frank, one of the only openly gay members of
Congress, was the victim of homophobic insults.
Tea Party and GOP leadership has condemned these racial slurs.
From Fox News:
Republican National Chairman Michael Steele and one of the
organizers of Saturday's Tea Party rally strongly condemned the racial
slurs that some black lawmakers alleged were yelled at them by some
health care protesters as they headed for a procedural vote at Capitol
Hill.
"I absolutely think it's isolated," Amy Kremer, the grassroots
coordinator of the Tea Party Express, told Fox News on Sunday. "It's
disgraceful and the people in this movement won't tolerate it because
that's not what we're about."
Read mo
http://network.nationalpost.com/NP/b.../2010/03/24/de...
News nets are now reporting the above, with interviews of a number of
elected officials who have received threats.
The conservative way...shoot 'em all.
What a country this is.
Has this country been as divided as it is now, since the civil war?
Don't know. Just askin.
What difference does it make if it's better or worse than at some point
in history.... Why don't you blame the Democrats for it. Instead of where
it really belongs... racial slurs, spitting on people, death threats,
actually murdering doctors.
Do you really think that would help? Probably not. The blame game is a
liberals thing anyway.
The blame game is the fear-based tactics of the right. Have at it.
It seems you have run out of steam. I'll check in with you sometime in
the future. Ta Ta
Newman.
The threats of violence were predictable. The Republican leadership, its
hate-mongering media personalities, and the racist right-wing trash in
the teabaggers movement have been flaming the fires among their moronic
followers.
To quote a great American (Goldwater): "Extremism in defense of
liberty is no vice" and I posit a corollary: "Any defense of tyranny
is a vice".
Attacks on individual freedoms by a majority have no legitimacy
regardless of whether they are blessed by a court or not.
Libs don't understand that words can be used to justify violence.
We do.
I beat the **** out out my wife one time, because she used the wrong
words on me, and didn't put enough sugar in my iced tea.
She snuck into the bedroom and called the cops.
When they showed up I sweet talked her and the cops and they went away.
Power of words.
We get it, me and you.

Jim - Goldwater fan.

When the U.S. government decides that these words:

"that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable
Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of
Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted
among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the
governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of
these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it,"

constitute sedition, then it will be time to do just what the words
say. Note "consent of the governed". I do not consent to being
forced to buy something I do not want. I do not give consent to
having the tenth amendment ignored, when it is ignored, then the
Constitution is meaningless and the Declaration takes precedence.

Yep. You have the power of words.
Now you just need the balls to take action, like I did with my wife.
Then face down the cops. Maybe the secret service and the Marines.
You up to it? I think you are a Patriot and ready to make the sacrifice
for the Founders and the American Way.
We need you. Get down to your local Tea Part HQ.
And good luck to you, brother.

Jim - Looking for other recruits. Pass the word.

On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:34:46 -0700, jps wrote:

On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 19:10:10 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 15:14:47 -0400, anon-e-moose
wrote:



Has this country been as divided as it is now, since the civil war?
Don't know. Just askin.

conservatives have been playing divide and conquer since johnson
signed the civil rights act

I think it was Reagan who was talking about how medicare (early
sixties?) was the end of everything private. Government would be in
every part of your life in no time.


and before that it was social security...which, of course, the GOP
hates and wants to abolish

On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 19:37:21 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:34:46 -0700, jps wrote:

On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 19:10:10 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 15:14:47 -0400, anon-e-moose
wrote:



Has this country been as divided as it is now, since the civil war?
Don't know. Just askin.

conservatives have been playing divide and conquer since johnson
signed the civil rights act

I think it was Reagan who was talking about how medicare (early
sixties?) was the end of everything private. Government would be in
every part of your life in no time.


and before that it was social security...which, of course, the GOP
hates and wants to abolish

Yes, I heard that. But don't touch medicare to fund that damned
socialist health reform. I'll throw a brick through your window!