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Tim March 24th 10 05:40 PM

exhaust hose...with or without wire
 
All in all to try to get back on track here.


Bob, I would think that if the non meshed hose worked fine it should
do be3cause it's obviosly not a pressurized system . If it can save
you some bread. If it's not a large diffrence in price, then go with
the better stuff.

anon-e-moose[_2_] March 24th 10 06:08 PM

exhaust hose...with or without wire
 
Tim wrote:
All in all to try to get back on track here.


Bob, I would think that if the non meshed hose worked fine it should
do be3cause it's obviosly not a pressurized system . If it can save
you some bread. If it's not a large diffrence in price, then go with
the better stuff.


The wire reinforced hose keeps it rigid so that it wont sag and possibly
present a hot spot problem. Long straight runs generally require the
wire reinforced hose.

Eisboch[_5_] March 24th 10 06:14 PM

exhaust hose...with or without wire
 

"jps" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 12:09:40 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
. ..

Holy crap. Out of the thousands of boats designed, engineered and
manufactured, he could only site Navigator?



I didn't say that. You did. I asked him what boat, (of that relative
size) based on his years of experience of running boats up and down the
east coast, in all kinds of conditions, would he choose to make the trip
in
if he had the choice. And then he backed it up with reasons and examples.
They are not important here because you wouldn't be interested.

You really shouldn't try to spin a comment into something other than what
it
was.

Eisboch


I didn't spin anything. I would have asked him what else he liked and
hoped that he'd mention something with some style and grace.

It is a boat after all, not a barge.

One of the greatest pleasures I have found in boat ownership is
admiring the lines and grace of the boat's design, as well as its
construction, layout and operation.

It helps make the maintenance go easier. I wouldn't want to wash and
wax something I considered ugly.

Make any sense?



To a point.

When I was shopping for a larger, live-aboard type boat I was equally
interested in the engineering aspects of the boat, how well it was
constructed and how it handled and rode in various sea states. At the time
I had dreams of doing a lot of ocean going travel. Didn't exactly work out
as planned for other reasons, but that was the critera at the time for boat
selection.

The delivery captain told me the following story when I asked him what boat
he would pick for an offshore type trip:

He had been hired by many different people over the years ... dealers and
private owners ..... to run boats up and down the coast and had experience
in virtually all the name brands. He was bringing the Navigator up from
Florida for a local dealer. As you are probably aware, these guys typically
have a qualified person to run the boat with them on these runs and they run
24 hours a day, stopping only for refueling.

He was coming up the coast in the fall and was running a mile or so behind a
similarly sized Hatteras that was being delivered by another delivery
captain who he knew. The seas were becoming increasingly rough and, as the
saying goes, both boats were taking it "on the nose". They were
communicating by radio and the Hatteras captain indicated he was backing off
on the throttle more and more as the seas worsened.

The guy in the Navigator was not in any discomfort in the same seas and was
slowly gaining on the Hatteras. Finally, as he passed him, the captain of
the Hatteras fell in behind the Navigator, riding in it's wake.

That's why I decided to buy the Navigator after looking at many boats.

Eisboch


jps March 24th 10 06:23 PM

exhaust hose...with or without wire
 
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:28:56 -0400, hk
wrote:

On 3/24/10 1:26 PM, I am Tosk wrote:

Isn't this the same guy who asked Dick if the "guy could only *site*
Navigator"? Pfffft. I love it when the pseudo-intellectuals try to be
spelling cops.

Scotty


Q. With your pre-existing heart condition and hospital history, how did
you obtain ordinary health insurance, as you claimed here?

A. You didn't.


As if Snotty is in a position to determine what is intellectual. Maybe
his daughter will clue him in someday if she her brain doesn't get
mashed too many times.

Maybe he's hoping she'll turn out to be a chip off the old block.

jps March 24th 10 06:39 PM

exhaust hose...with or without wire
 
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 14:14:04 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 12:09:40 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
...

Holy crap. Out of the thousands of boats designed, engineered and
manufactured, he could only site Navigator?


I didn't say that. You did. I asked him what boat, (of that relative
size) based on his years of experience of running boats up and down the
east coast, in all kinds of conditions, would he choose to make the trip
in
if he had the choice. And then he backed it up with reasons and examples.
They are not important here because you wouldn't be interested.

You really shouldn't try to spin a comment into something other than what
it
was.

Eisboch


I didn't spin anything. I would have asked him what else he liked and
hoped that he'd mention something with some style and grace.

It is a boat after all, not a barge.

One of the greatest pleasures I have found in boat ownership is
admiring the lines and grace of the boat's design, as well as its
construction, layout and operation.

It helps make the maintenance go easier. I wouldn't want to wash and
wax something I considered ugly.

Make any sense?



To a point.

When I was shopping for a larger, live-aboard type boat I was equally
interested in the engineering aspects of the boat, how well it was
constructed and how it handled and rode in various sea states. At the time
I had dreams of doing a lot of ocean going travel. Didn't exactly work out
as planned for other reasons, but that was the critera at the time for boat
selection.

The delivery captain told me the following story when I asked him what boat
he would pick for an offshore type trip:

He had been hired by many different people over the years ... dealers and
private owners ..... to run boats up and down the coast and had experience
in virtually all the name brands. He was bringing the Navigator up from
Florida for a local dealer. As you are probably aware, these guys typically
have a qualified person to run the boat with them on these runs and they run
24 hours a day, stopping only for refueling.

He was coming up the coast in the fall and was running a mile or so behind a
similarly sized Hatteras that was being delivered by another delivery
captain who he knew. The seas were becoming increasingly rough and, as the
saying goes, both boats were taking it "on the nose". They were
communicating by radio and the Hatteras captain indicated he was backing off
on the throttle more and more as the seas worsened.

The guy in the Navigator was not in any discomfort in the same seas and was
slowly gaining on the Hatteras. Finally, as he passed him, the captain of
the Hatteras fell in behind the Navigator, riding in it's wake.

That's why I decided to buy the Navigator after looking at many boats.

Eisboch


It's a nice anecdote to support your purchase although you don't
mention model, size, year of Hatt. I suppose I'm too hung up on the
looks to consider that which I don't feel is attractive -- like
picking a wife with a great personality and body but a face like a
trucker. Shoot me, I have some vanity.

I'm sure the Navigator could be compared favorably to a number of
yachts capable of excellent seakeeping.

If you were having thoughts of motoring oceans, why not consider the
long range trawlers that are so popular? Too slow?

Tim March 24th 10 07:12 PM

exhaust hose...with or without wire
 
On Mar 24, 12:08*pm, anon-e-moose wrote:
Tim wrote:
All in all to try to get back on track here.


Bob, I would think that if the non meshed hose worked fine it should
do because it's obviosly not a pressurized system *. If it can save
you some bread. *If it's not a large diffrence in price, then go with
the better stuff.


The wire reinforced hose keeps it rigid so that it wont sag and possibly
present a hot spot problem. Long straight runs generally require the
wire reinforced hose.


Yeah, I forgot about the long runs. So, I'd say you're probably
right. But then again. I wonder which design of hose was origional
equipment and which was the replacement?

anon-e-moose[_2_] March 24th 10 07:26 PM

exhaust hose...with or without wire
 
Tim wrote:
On Mar 24, 12:08 pm, anon-e-moose wrote:
Tim wrote:
All in all to try to get back on track here.
Bob, I would think that if the non meshed hose worked fine it should
do because it's obviosly not a pressurized system . If it can save
you some bread. If it's not a large diffrence in price, then go with
the better stuff.

The wire reinforced hose keeps it rigid so that it wont sag and possibly
present a hot spot problem. Long straight runs generally require the
wire reinforced hose.


Yeah, I forgot about the long runs. So, I'd say you're probably
right. But then again. I wonder which design of hose was origional
equipment and which was the replacement?


Which looks older?

Jim March 24th 10 09:17 PM

exhaust hose...with or without wire
 
D.Duck wrote:
hk wrote:



That's about all you do here, quacker...troll.


And 99% of the drivel you post here is what?


Very good. Most here would have said dribble.
Nice to see a poster with education, paying attention to what he says.
I do believe you are the intellectual of rec.boats.
That you seldom post here tends to confirm that.

Jim - Easing off bashing dumb libs for a moment.

Tim March 24th 10 09:21 PM

exhaust hose...with or without wire
 
On Mar 24, 1:26*pm, anon-e-moose wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Mar 24, 12:08 pm, anon-e-moose wrote:
Tim wrote:
All in all to try to get back on track here.
Bob, I would think that if the non meshed hose worked fine it should
do because it's obviosly not a pressurized system *. If it can save
you some bread. *If it's not a large diffrence in price, then go with
the better stuff.
The wire reinforced hose keeps it rigid so that it wont sag and possibly
present a hot spot problem. Long straight runs generally require the
wire reinforced hose.


Yeah, I forgot about the long runs. *So, I'd say you're probably
right. But then again. I wonder which design of hose was origional
equipment and which was the replacement?


Which looks older?


True to a degree.

If the inferior hose is baked and 'weather cracked' etc. I suppose it
could look older.

Tim March 24th 10 10:21 PM

exhaust hose...with or without wire
 
On Mar 24, 1:26*pm, anon-e-moose wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Mar 24, 12:08 pm, anon-e-moose wrote:
Tim wrote:
All in all to try to get back on track here.
Bob, I would think that if the non meshed hose worked fine it should
do because it's obviosly not a pressurized system *. If it can save
you some bread. *If it's not a large diffrence in price, then go with
the better stuff.
The wire reinforced hose keeps it rigid so that it wont sag and possibly
present a hot spot problem. Long straight runs generally require the
wire reinforced hose.


Yeah, I forgot about the long runs. *So, I'd say you're probably
right. But then again. I wonder which design of hose was origional
equipment and which was the replacement?


Which looks older?


I jsut went out to the barn to look at rthe engine from my old Chris
craft and the rubber hoses were sill attached to the manifolds. They
are a very thick rubber hose which reminds me of hydrolic hose. The
type with the rib ply's on the outside. or you might say like a tire
turned insid out. There is no steel mesh or evidence of a spring
inside.

And they were origional from 1964.


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