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nom=de=plume March 24th 10 07:26 PM

Conservative Comment on Passage of...
 
"I am Tosk" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 00:50:57 -0400,
wrote:

On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 20:50:37 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

incidentally, on this, the day obama signed the bill...

the stock market jumped more than 100 points to its highest point in 5
weeks.

Yup the insurance company stocks are up 50% since they passed the
Senate bill.
United HC and Aetna both went from the low 20s to the mid 30s.
We really got even with those *******s huh?
This will go down as the insurance, hospital and pharmaceutical
conglomerate stimulus package of 2010.

gee. the dow includes more than insurance companies

but that's a fact. and right whiners dont do facts. only liberals do


Yes the DOW has more than insurance and medical companies, but they are
what
drove the jump. 100 pts. is not a big percentage.


Well, really nobody said the whole stock market went up. If you "read
the frekin' post" above you will see that someone gave facts and figures
about insurance companies that went up. The bpuharic interjected the
stock market arguement to muddy the facts and avoid adressing them.
Either way, it doesn't change the fact that the big insurance companies
and big pharma made out like bandits. This was their T.A.R.P. as it
were. It will allow them to get rid of any business that is not so
profitable and raise their rates on the ones that are left, just like
the big banks did last year when they got theirs...

Scotty

--
For a great time, go here first...
http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v



So, we should just let them gouge people with no restraints. Got it. That's
going to reduce the costs and keep them from making a profit. Sounds Marxist
to me.


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Nom=de=Plume



nom=de=plume March 24th 10 07:27 PM

Conservative Comment on Passage of...
 
"I am Tosk" wrote in message
...
In article 0391c2ca-003f-4497-9039-777bdef66c00
@l25g2000yqd.googlegroups.com, says...

On Mar 24, 10:47 am, I am Tosk
wrote:
In article 735fef65-951b-471b-8944-1d99fdb4cac8
@d27g2000yqf.googlegroups.com, says...







On Mar 24, 9:17 am, I am Tosk
wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 23/03/2010 6:50 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 11:08:59 -0700, "CalifBill"
wrote:

How are they going to cut Medicare? Medicare people vote at a
higher
percentage than others. And they already said they are going
to fix the
drug donut hole. How is that going to reduce costs?

incidentally, on this, the day obama signed the bill...

the stock market jumped more than 100 points to its highest
point in 5
weeks.

Market always moves in advance. Look at last Friday.

But you know squat of investing, so quite the liberal BS. Go back
to
you naitivity and Obama worship.

Debt, who would have thought America would be at war from within
with
debt mongers.

China said they would do just that decades ago. They were going to
bring
us down "without even firing a shot". The sheeples are following
the
idiots in the White House straight to the slaughter. China needs
our
land to grow food, and when the collapse comes, they will "save us"
or
enslave us. Either way, bend over, change is here.

Scotty

--
For a great time, go here first...
http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v-Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Pssssst...... want to know where a BIG portion of that China debt
came
from?

Don't tell me, George Bush and Rush Limbaugh, right??? And of course
Bush set up all of the devices for decades which led up to this.. Yep,
he was selling out our workforce while still in grade school...
Pfffftttt...

Scotty

--
For a great time, go here first...http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Uh, it WAS George Bush. Borrowed $2.5 Trillion dollars to get the guy
that dissed his daddy.


And Obama is gonna' give 12 trillion to the unions, big business, Wall
street and other various organizations who elected him.. So what? Let me
do the math here... 2.5 trillion is uh, oh yeah, less than 12 trillion.
Oooops, another justification cut off at the knees.

Scotty

--
For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v



$12T?? I thought it was $100T. Why not make up even higher numbers.

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Nom=de=Plume



anon-e-moose[_2_] March 24th 10 07:29 PM

Conservative Comment on Passage of...
 
nom=de=plume wrote:
"CalifBill" wrote in message
m...
"bpuharic" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 06:44:57 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 22/03/2010 9:33 PM, wrote:

The problem is "the law" can easily change and make the projection
wildly wrong. That is what happened to Medicare. Once they got the
framework in place it became a Christmas tree that everyone could hang
ornaments on. That is the fear with this bill. The congress is already
saying they are going to "fix all the problems" that were created to
get it passed in the first place. I am sure all of the cost saving
devices will be the first things to go, like the Medicare cuts, the
tax increases and the limits on what they grant the states.
Good annology. And he reason they don't want it in a seperate fund is
so they can hide the skiming as they ask for more, and more taxes. Foot
is now in the door, going to be hard now to stop.

of course, this idea is testable. has this been done with social
security? nope. medicare? nope

so he's full of ****.

They will. When the tax bill arrives people will be ****ed to no end.
actually it's going to reduce healthcare costs over the next decade.
this moron knows zip about economics

It will not be just income tax, sin taxes, utilities, gas and like EVERY
other nation with a statism government VAT, a national sales tax. At
some point government will go for a national sales tax.
as if we 're not already payin for healthcare...twice what other
countries pay

more proof the moron knows nothing except what he hears on talk radio

Europe has a shortage of doctors. They immigrate to countries that pay a
decent rate. The only docs you will see in the future, unless we make
medical school free, will be those from 3rd world countries.


Sure... Doctors trained here, born here, brought up here are going to move
to Turkey. Ok. All of this because we want people to be healthy... loooney!

What a dunce. Do a study on which countries are most represented in our
medical schools. I'd say India but I'm just guessing.

jps March 24th 10 08:01 PM

Conservative Comment on Passage of...
 
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 12:27:36 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"I am Tosk" wrote in message
...
In article 0391c2ca-003f-4497-9039-777bdef66c00
@l25g2000yqd.googlegroups.com, says...

On Mar 24, 10:47 am, I am Tosk
wrote:
In article 735fef65-951b-471b-8944-1d99fdb4cac8
@d27g2000yqf.googlegroups.com, says...







On Mar 24, 9:17 am, I am Tosk
wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 23/03/2010 6:50 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 11:08:59 -0700, "CalifBill"
wrote:

How are they going to cut Medicare? Medicare people vote at a
higher
percentage than others. And they already said they are going
to fix the
drug donut hole. How is that going to reduce costs?

incidentally, on this, the day obama signed the bill...

the stock market jumped more than 100 points to its highest
point in 5
weeks.

Market always moves in advance. Look at last Friday.

But you know squat of investing, so quite the liberal BS. Go back
to
you naitivity and Obama worship.

Debt, who would have thought America would be at war from within
with
debt mongers.

China said they would do just that decades ago. They were going to
bring
us down "without even firing a shot". The sheeples are following
the
idiots in the White House straight to the slaughter. China needs
our
land to grow food, and when the collapse comes, they will "save us"
or
enslave us. Either way, bend over, change is here.

Scotty

--
For a great time, go here first...
http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v-Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Pssssst...... want to know where a BIG portion of that China debt
came
from?

Don't tell me, George Bush and Rush Limbaugh, right??? And of course
Bush set up all of the devices for decades which led up to this.. Yep,
he was selling out our workforce while still in grade school...
Pfffftttt...

Scotty

--
For a great time, go here first...http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Uh, it WAS George Bush. Borrowed $2.5 Trillion dollars to get the guy
that dissed his daddy.


And Obama is gonna' give 12 trillion to the unions, big business, Wall
street and other various organizations who elected him.. So what? Let me
do the math here... 2.5 trillion is uh, oh yeah, less than 12 trillion.
Oooops, another justification cut off at the knees.

Scotty

--
For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v



$12T?? I thought it was $100T. Why not make up even higher numbers.


He looked it up on Gurgle, the search engine for idiots.

nom=de=plume March 24th 10 08:12 PM

Conservative Comment on Passage of...
 
"anon-e-moose" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
"CalifBill" wrote in message
m...
"bpuharic" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 06:44:57 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 22/03/2010 9:33 PM, wrote:

The problem is "the law" can easily change and make the projection
wildly wrong. That is what happened to Medicare. Once they got the
framework in place it became a Christmas tree that everyone could
hang
ornaments on. That is the fear with this bill. The congress is
already
saying they are going to "fix all the problems" that were created to
get it passed in the first place. I am sure all of the cost saving
devices will be the first things to go, like the Medicare cuts, the
tax increases and the limits on what they grant the states.
Good annology. And he reason they don't want it in a seperate fund is
so they can hide the skiming as they ask for more, and more taxes.
Foot
is now in the door, going to be hard now to stop.

of course, this idea is testable. has this been done with social
security? nope. medicare? nope

so he's full of ****.

They will. When the tax bill arrives people will be ****ed to no end.
actually it's going to reduce healthcare costs over the next decade.
this moron knows zip about economics

It will not be just income tax, sin taxes, utilities, gas and like
EVERY
other nation with a statism government VAT, a national sales tax. At
some point government will go for a national sales tax.
as if we 're not already payin for healthcare...twice what other
countries pay

more proof the moron knows nothing except what he hears on talk radio

Europe has a shortage of doctors. They immigrate to countries that pay
a decent rate. The only docs you will see in the future, unless we make
medical school free, will be those from 3rd world countries.


Sure... Doctors trained here, born here, brought up here are going to
move to Turkey. Ok. All of this because we want people to be healthy...
loooney!

What a dunce. Do a study on which countries are most represented in our
medical schools. I'd say India but I'm just guessing.



What a dunce yourself. Do a study on who gets paid the most after getting
out of medical schools in the US... those staying or those leaving. If
demand is going up and there's a shortage, there would then be an increase
in cost. Dollars and sense, the latter of which you have zero.

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Nom=de=Plume



nom=de=plume March 24th 10 08:13 PM

Conservative Comment on Passage of...
 
"jps" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 12:27:36 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"I am Tosk" wrote in message
...
In article 0391c2ca-003f-4497-9039-777bdef66c00
@l25g2000yqd.googlegroups.com, says...

On Mar 24, 10:47 am, I am Tosk
wrote:
In article 735fef65-951b-471b-8944-1d99fdb4cac8
@d27g2000yqf.googlegroups.com, says...







On Mar 24, 9:17 am, I am Tosk
wrote:
In article ,

says...

On 23/03/2010 6:50 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 11:08:59 -0700, "CalifBill"
wrote:

How are they going to cut Medicare? Medicare people vote at
a
higher
percentage than others. And they already said they are going
to fix the
drug donut hole. How is that going to reduce costs?

incidentally, on this, the day obama signed the bill...

the stock market jumped more than 100 points to its highest
point in 5
weeks.

Market always moves in advance. Look at last Friday.

But you know squat of investing, so quite the liberal BS. Go
back
to
you naitivity and Obama worship.

Debt, who would have thought America would be at war from
within
with
debt mongers.

China said they would do just that decades ago. They were going
to
bring
us down "without even firing a shot". The sheeples are following
the
idiots in the White House straight to the slaughter. China needs
our
land to grow food, and when the collapse comes, they will "save
us"
or
enslave us. Either way, bend over, change is here.

Scotty

--
For a great time, go here first...
http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v-Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Pssssst...... want to know where a BIG portion of that China debt
came
from?

Don't tell me, George Bush and Rush Limbaugh, right??? And of course
Bush set up all of the devices for decades which led up to this..
Yep,
he was selling out our workforce while still in grade school...
Pfffftttt...

Scotty

--
For a great time, go here first...http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Uh, it WAS George Bush. Borrowed $2.5 Trillion dollars to get the guy
that dissed his daddy.

And Obama is gonna' give 12 trillion to the unions, big business, Wall
street and other various organizations who elected him.. So what? Let me
do the math here... 2.5 trillion is uh, oh yeah, less than 12 trillion.
Oooops, another justification cut off at the knees.

Scotty

--
For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v



$12T?? I thought it was $100T. Why not make up even higher numbers.


He looked it up on Gurgle, the search engine for idiots.



I thought it was Goofus.

--
Nom=de=Plume



jps March 24th 10 09:08 PM

Conservative Comment on Passage of...
 
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:13:00 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 12:27:36 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"I am Tosk" wrote in message
...
In article 0391c2ca-003f-4497-9039-777bdef66c00
@l25g2000yqd.googlegroups.com, says...

On Mar 24, 10:47 am, I am Tosk
wrote:
In article 735fef65-951b-471b-8944-1d99fdb4cac8
@d27g2000yqf.googlegroups.com, says...







On Mar 24, 9:17 am, I am Tosk
wrote:
In article ,

says...

On 23/03/2010 6:50 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 11:08:59 -0700, "CalifBill"
wrote:

How are they going to cut Medicare? Medicare people vote at
a
higher
percentage than others. And they already said they are going
to fix the
drug donut hole. How is that going to reduce costs?

incidentally, on this, the day obama signed the bill...

the stock market jumped more than 100 points to its highest
point in 5
weeks.

Market always moves in advance. Look at last Friday.

But you know squat of investing, so quite the liberal BS. Go
back
to
you naitivity and Obama worship.

Debt, who would have thought America would be at war from
within
with
debt mongers.

China said they would do just that decades ago. They were going
to
bring
us down "without even firing a shot". The sheeples are following
the
idiots in the White House straight to the slaughter. China needs
our
land to grow food, and when the collapse comes, they will "save
us"
or
enslave us. Either way, bend over, change is here.

Scotty

--
For a great time, go here first...
http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v-Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Pssssst...... want to know where a BIG portion of that China debt
came
from?

Don't tell me, George Bush and Rush Limbaugh, right??? And of course
Bush set up all of the devices for decades which led up to this..
Yep,
he was selling out our workforce while still in grade school...
Pfffftttt...

Scotty

--
For a great time, go here first...http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Uh, it WAS George Bush. Borrowed $2.5 Trillion dollars to get the guy
that dissed his daddy.

And Obama is gonna' give 12 trillion to the unions, big business, Wall
street and other various organizations who elected him.. So what? Let me
do the math here... 2.5 trillion is uh, oh yeah, less than 12 trillion.
Oooops, another justification cut off at the knees.

Scotty

--
For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v


$12T?? I thought it was $100T. Why not make up even higher numbers.


He looked it up on Gurgle, the search engine for idiots.



I thought it was Goofus.


I'm sure there are several by now, 24% of Republicans is a pretty
large number.

bpuharic March 24th 10 11:20 PM

Conservative Comment on Passage of...
 
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 11:45:48 -0700, "CalifBill"
wrote:


"bpuharic" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 06:44:57 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

more proof the moron knows nothing except what he hears on talk radio


Europe has a shortage of doctors. They immigrate to countries that pay a
decent rate. The only docs you will see in the future, unless we make
medical school free, will be those from 3rd world countries.


the US also has a shortage of doctors. that's why PA just started
another med school in scranton. and healthcare in most western
countries is better than US healthcare...and half as expensive

so, you were saying?



bpuharic March 24th 10 11:22 PM

Conservative Comment on Passage of...
 
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 11:43:29 -0700, "CalifBill"
wrote:


"bpuharic" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 00:50:57 -0400, wrote:

gee. the dow includes more than insurance companies

but that's a fact. and right whiners dont do facts. only liberals do


Yes the DOW has more than insurance and medical companies, but they are what
drove the jump. 100 pts. is not a big percentage.


and yet the biggest increase in 5 weeks.

i await your proof that insurance companies drove the increase



bpuharic March 24th 10 11:24 PM

Conservative Comment on Passage of...
 
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 12:26:48 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:



So, we should just let them gouge people with no restraints. Got it. That's
going to reduce the costs and keep them from making a profit. Sounds Marxist
to me.


well they're rich. they're entitled to a 39% annual increase, like
anthem just announced in california.


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