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On 24/03/2010 5:03 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
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On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 20:50:37 -0400, wrote:

incidentally, on this, the day obama signed the bill...

the stock market jumped more than 100 points to its highest point in 5
weeks.

Yup the insurance company stocks are up 50% since they passed the
Senate bill.
United HC and Aetna both went from the low 20s to the mid 30s.
We really got even with those *******s huh?
This will go down as the insurance, hospital and pharmaceutical
conglomerate stimulus package of 2010.

That pretty much says it all right there. **** Obama, **** Pelosi, and
the rest of the bought and paid for administration...

Scotty

Maybe Pelosi got some and that is why she smiles a lot.

Pretty much the best shortest explaination going, bought and paid for
administration. Maybe this is all a ruse to dump what the insurance
companies don't want on the taxpayer or the nationalization of health
care...

After all, Obama has auto and banks, up the size of health care as
America moves to corrupt marxist/socialism. Has a pretty good handle in
the expsnsive things in peoples lives.


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In article ,
says...

On 23/03/2010 6:50 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 11:08:59 -0700, "CalifBill"
wrote:




How are they going to cut Medicare? Medicare people vote at a higher
percentage than others. And they already said they are going to fix the
drug donut hole. How is that going to reduce costs?

incidentally, on this, the day obama signed the bill...

the stock market jumped more than 100 points to its highest point in 5
weeks.


Market always moves in advance. Look at last Friday.

But you know squat of investing, so quite the liberal BS. Go back to
you naitivity and Obama worship.

Debt, who would have thought America would be at war from within with
debt mongers.

China said they would do just that decades ago. They were going to bring
us down "without even firing a shot". The sheeples are following the
idiots in the White House straight to the slaughter. China needs our
land to grow food, and when the collapse comes, they will "save us" or
enslave us. Either way, bend over, change is here.

Scotty

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On Mar 24, 9:17*am, I am Tosk wrote:
In article ,
says...







On 23/03/2010 6:50 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 11:08:59 -0700, "CalifBill"
*wrote:

How are they going to cut Medicare? *Medicare people vote at a higher
percentage than others. *And they already said they are going to fix the
drug donut hole. *How is that going to reduce costs?

incidentally, on this, the day obama signed the bill...

the stock market jumped more than 100 points to its highest point in 5
weeks.

Market always moves in advance. *Look at last Friday.

But you know squat of investing, so quite the liberal BS. *Go back to
you naitivity and Obama worship.

Debt, who would have thought America would be at war from within with
debt mongers.

China said they would do just that decades ago. They were going to bring
us down "without even firing a shot". The sheeples are following the
idiots in the White House straight to the slaughter. China needs our
land to grow food, and when the collapse comes, they will "save us" or
enslave us. Either way, bend over, change is here.

Scotty

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Pssssst...... want to know where a BIG portion of that China debt came
from?

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In article 735fef65-951b-471b-8944-1d99fdb4cac8
@d27g2000yqf.googlegroups.com, says...

On Mar 24, 9:17*am, I am Tosk wrote:
In article ,
says...







On 23/03/2010 6:50 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 11:08:59 -0700, "CalifBill"
*wrote:

How are they going to cut Medicare? *Medicare people vote at a higher
percentage than others. *And they already said they are going to fix the
drug donut hole. *How is that going to reduce costs?

incidentally, on this, the day obama signed the bill...

the stock market jumped more than 100 points to its highest point in 5
weeks.

Market always moves in advance. *Look at last Friday.

But you know squat of investing, so quite the liberal BS. *Go back to
you naitivity and Obama worship.

Debt, who would have thought America would be at war from within with
debt mongers.

China said they would do just that decades ago. They were going to bring
us down "without even firing a shot". The sheeples are following the
idiots in the White House straight to the slaughter. China needs our
land to grow food, and when the collapse comes, they will "save us" or
enslave us. Either way, bend over, change is here.

Scotty

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Pssssst...... want to know where a BIG portion of that China debt came
from?

Don't tell me, George Bush and Rush Limbaugh, right??? And of course
Bush set up all of the devices for decades which led up to this.. Yep,
he was selling out our workforce while still in grade school...
Pfffftttt...

Scotty

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"Canuck57" wrote in message
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On 23/03/2010 6:35 PM, bpuharic wrote:

actually it's going to reduce healthcare costs over the next decade.
this moron knows zip about economics

You liberals are so naive. And Obama is spending $1.7 trillion more than
he has to spend for the second year in a row but WTF he is saving money...
ya right. In reality he will overspend America into bankruptcy even more
next year. Until America is broke.

Even the IMF can't bailout the USA.

You idiots have to stop watching big mouth Obama's lips and watches how he
walks. You are too easy to lead down the garden path.

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You're really, really dumb. I know you don't make this up, so you must be
getting it from some blog.

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On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 19:37:35 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

They have been trying to cut fraud and abuse in government since
George Washington and the scammers always manage to stay one step
ahead of the cops.

So that justifies giving up on the problem? There will always be crime.

In the case of Medicare, in the 80s Medicare did tighten up on fraud
and doctors stopped taking Medicare patients because the paperwork was
too cumbersome and Medicare was "slow pay".
When they streamlined the payments, fraud soared again.
Right now they call Medicare "pay and chase". They pay out
questionable claims and chase the guy after it is proven to be fraud.
By then the crook is long gone.

And, it can be addressed, but there's no absolute cure. Doesn't mean we
should sit on our hands.


I have no problem with trying to stop the crime but I am not confident
that we will stop a half a trillion of it in the next decade. I doubt
the fraud and waste number will be any better in 2020 than it is now.


Fixing the donut hole will probably help in the long run, since lots of
people in that situation stop buying the meds they need, they get sick,
and
end up having more expensive procedures.

Personally I think most seniors are over medicated in the first place.


Fortunately, you're not the one prescribing in the dr. office.


No the drug salesman does it.

You can always tell what you are going to walk out of there with by
looking at the logos on the pens, pads and posters around the office.

It certainly does not help that the patients are inundated with ads on
TV for pills they may or may not need. There does not seem to be any
incentive for the doctor not to give them anything they ask for.
Most people would be better off with older, less powerful medications
that come with fewer side effects but they seem to want the latest and
greatest ... as long as their prescription plan covers it.



$50B a year isn't that difficult to find if the tools are in place to look.
What really gets me is the notion that Obama (actually Congress) is spending
$940B immediately. It's over 10 years. And, the CBO is estimating a deficit
reduction over the same period of about $138B. Without the $940B, the cost
would be a lot higher. Over the following 10 years, the cost savings
approach $1.3T. The Republicans voted against PayGo. So, they're
uninterested in saving money because it _might_ mean Obama would get partial
credit.

FYI, just because you get lobbied (e.g., drs), doesn't mean you're in the
pocket of the lobbiests. Most drs have their patients in mind first.

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wrote in message
...
On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 20:50:37 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

incidentally, on this, the day obama signed the bill...

the stock market jumped more than 100 points to its highest point in 5
weeks.

Yup the insurance company stocks are up 50% since they passed the
Senate bill.
United HC and Aetna both went from the low 20s to the mid 30s.
We really got even with those *******s huh?
This will go down as the insurance, hospital and pharmaceutical
conglomerate stimulus package of 2010.


You're claiming that the benefits of the bill aren't going to help people?
What's wrong with ins. companies making money? My opinion is that they need
to be regulated more, but that will come.

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"I am Tosk" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 20:50:37 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

incidentally, on this, the day obama signed the bill...

the stock market jumped more than 100 points to its highest point in 5
weeks.

Yup the insurance company stocks are up 50% since they passed the
Senate bill.
United HC and Aetna both went from the low 20s to the mid 30s.
We really got even with those *******s huh?
This will go down as the insurance, hospital and pharmaceutical
conglomerate stimulus package of 2010.

That pretty much says it all right there. **** Obama, **** Pelosi, and
the rest of the bought and paid for administration...

Scotty

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And, **** the poor and the middle class. Obviously, you don't care and
neither do the Republicans.

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"Canuck57" wrote in message
...
On 23/03/2010 6:50 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 11:08:59 -0700, "CalifBill"
wrote:




How are they going to cut Medicare? Medicare people vote at a higher
percentage than others. And they already said they are going to fix the
drug donut hole. How is that going to reduce costs?

incidentally, on this, the day obama signed the bill...

the stock market jumped more than 100 points to its highest point in 5
weeks.


Market always moves in advance. Look at last Friday.

But you know squat of investing, so quite the liberal BS. Go back to you
naitivity and Obama worship.

Debt, who would have thought America would be at war from within with debt
mongers.

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Politicians don't provide anything, the tax payers do.


You have no clue. The market doesn't "always" move in advance. The "market"
is made up of lots of different groups. The "market" is driven by confidence
and mainly reacts to forces already at work.

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"I am Tosk" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

On 23/03/2010 6:50 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 11:08:59 -0700, "CalifBill"
wrote:




How are they going to cut Medicare? Medicare people vote at a higher
percentage than others. And they already said they are going to fix
the
drug donut hole. How is that going to reduce costs?

incidentally, on this, the day obama signed the bill...

the stock market jumped more than 100 points to its highest point in 5
weeks.


Market always moves in advance. Look at last Friday.

But you know squat of investing, so quite the liberal BS. Go back to
you naitivity and Obama worship.

Debt, who would have thought America would be at war from within with
debt mongers.

China said they would do just that decades ago. They were going to bring
us down "without even firing a shot". The sheeples are following the
idiots in the White House straight to the slaughter. China needs our
land to grow food, and when the collapse comes, they will "save us" or
enslave us. Either way, bend over, change is here.

Scotty

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Gotta find a scapegoat don't you. Must be Obama and China. How about looking
in the mirror. Don't scare yourself.

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