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That's just plain silly, richard. I can think of a number of instances in
which demonstrations, peaceful and otherwise, got unjust laws or policies
changed. I'm aure you can, too. Conflict can speed along the process.



Not silly at all. I can think of demonstrations, peaceful and otherwise
that have resulted
in people killed or in the hospital. A high school prom isn't worth the
risk.

How did she die? The police put down a riot at the high school because
of a question about who you could bring as your date to the prom.

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In article ,
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"HK" wrote in message
m...

That's just plain silly, richard. I can think of a number of instances
in
which demonstrations, peaceful and otherwise, got unjust laws or
policies
changed. I'm aure you can, too. Conflict can speed along the process.



Not silly at all. I can think of demonstrations, peaceful and otherwise
that have resulted
in people killed or in the hospital. A high school prom isn't worth the
risk.

How did she die? The police put down a riot at the high school because
of a question about who you could bring as your date to the prom.

???

Eisboch

On 3/12/10 8:43 AM, Eisboch wrote:
wrote in message
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On 3/12/10 3:26 AM, Eisboch wrote:
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So, you're the one who gets to define normal? I don't think so.



As an attorney, I would think you would agree that the appropriate way to
have dealt with this situation would have been to petition the district
school committee to revise their policy *before* the prom was scheduled.

The policy in force requires dates to be of the opposite sex. Instead
of
creating a public media circus, the girl and her herd of ACLU lawyers
should
have sought to have the opposite sex policy changed or dropped.
If they had, the school sponsored prom would have gone on with probably
only
a few raised eyebrows.

I think the committee acted appropriately. They sought to avoid any
demonstrations or problems at a school sponsored event. They suggested
that perhaps a private organization sponsor the prom instead.

In a culture based on the rule of laws, it seems that now-a-days
adherence
to existing laws or rules is
optional.

Eisboch





In *most* cases, laws that are in existence only to discriminate based
upon race, gender, whatever, should be considered unConstitutional and
just plain ignored. It is not the state's business to determine who a teen
can or cannot take to a celebratory event like a prom. In Virginia not so
long ago, it was "illegal" for blacks and whites to marry each other. That
law was unConstitutional and mostly ignored up until the day it was tossed
in the trash.

Sometimes, when trying to get unjust, unConstitutional laws dumped, it is
necessary to create "a public media circus." There's nothing wrong with
demonstrations, especially if the demonstators are polite.

Of course, Mississippi has an colorful history in how it treats
demonstrators. It used to shoot them.




You are walking a fine line there, Harry. Who decides what laws or, in
this case policy, is unjust?
You are giving evidence to my point .... if you don't agree or like it ...
ignore it. Recognition of a
law becomes optional.

All your points about discriminate based upon race, gender, etc. are valid.
So, challenge them at
a school committee meeting or in court to have the policy changed. That
didn't happen in this case apparently, so the committee made the wise choice
of canceling the prom.




Citizens are capable of deciding what laws are just or unjust and, if
the latter, determining whether civil disobedience or peaceful
demonstrations are a way to respond.

"Congress shall make no law...abridging...the right of the people
peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of
grievances."




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On Mar 11, 2:15*pm, jps wrote:
On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:33:19 -0800 (PST), Bob Rankin

wrote:
speaking of deviance, Krause, how is it to live with a felony sex
conviction? *that was you on the Florida sex offenders list wasn't it?

Pensicola. *Figures you'd be an idiot. *Not much else down thataway.

Hey JPS, you might want to learn how to spell before calling others
"an idiot."

On 3/12/10 11:06 AM, Bob Rankin wrote:
On Mar 11, 2:15 pm, wrote:
On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:33:19 -0800 (PST), Bob Rankin

wrote:
speaking of deviance, Krause, how is it to live with a felony sex
conviction? that was you on the Florida sex offenders list wasn't it?

Pensicola. Figures you'd be an idiot. Not much else down thataway.

Hey JPS, you might want to learn how to spell before calling others
"an idiot."



Everyone should know it is spelled "penscla," the way you spell it,
right, moron?

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On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:33:10 -0500, Eisboch wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
m...

That's just plain silly, richard. I can think of a number of instances in
which demonstrations, peaceful and otherwise, got unjust laws or policies
changed. I'm aure you can, too. Conflict can speed along the process.



Not silly at all. I can think of demonstrations, peaceful and otherwise
that have resulted
in people killed or in the hospital. A high school prom isn't worth the
risk.

Eisboch

They should have designated it as a Sock Hop. Hell's Fire, many of the
girls danced together years ago and it was ignored.

We have fell into a "Stupidity Pit" and some think is is normal.

Let's break out the National Guard and have them stand guard to enforce
"Christian Values".

Damn that's already been done also. To think they shot a Southern Governor
and bought him a wheel chair over dumb **** such as this.

On 3/12/10 11:13 AM, your kind of guy wrote:
On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:33:10 -0500, Eisboch wrote:


wrote in message
m...

That's just plain silly, richard. I can think of a number of instances in
which demonstrations, peaceful and otherwise, got unjust laws or policies
changed. I'm aure you can, too. Conflict can speed along the process.



Not silly at all. I can think of demonstrations, peaceful and otherwise
that have resulted
in people killed or in the hospital. A high school prom isn't worth the
risk.

Eisboch

They should have designated it as a Sock Hop. Hell's Fire, many of the
girls danced together years ago and it was ignored.

We have fell into a "Stupidity Pit" and some think is is normal.

Let's break out the National Guard and have them stand guard to enforce
"Christian Values".

Damn that's already been done also. To think they shot a Southern Governor
and bought him a wheel chair over dumb **** such as this.




What "they" should do is get governmental agencies out of the business
of determining what is right or wrong in gender preferences. There
are lots of serious issues needing attention. Who someone dates, or if
adults, sleeps with or marries, is not the business of government.

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On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:10:35 -0500, HK wrote:

On 3/12/10 11:06 AM, Bob Rankin wrote:
On Mar 11, 2:15 pm, wrote:
On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:33:19 -0800 (PST), Bob Rankin

wrote:
speaking of deviance, Krause, how is it to live with a felony sex
conviction? that was you on the Florida sex offenders list wasn't it?

Pensicola. Figures you'd be an idiot. Not much else down thataway.

Hey JPS, you might want to learn how to spell before calling others
"an idiot."



Everyone should know it is spelled "penscla," the way you spell it,
right, moron?



You don't even know your name Bruce.
You don't know how to create a signature line either.

How's my girlfried/your wife, holding up lately. Haven't seen her in a
while. She still on all her Med's?

"HK" wrote in message
m...


What "they" should do is get governmental agencies out of the business of
determining what is right or wrong in gender preferences. There are
lots of serious issues needing attention. Who someone dates, or if adults,
sleeps with or marries, is not the business of government.

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I don't equate a local school committee as being big "government".
It's likely a 50 year old policy that nobody has challenged or even thought
about before.

On 3/12/10 11:35 AM, Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
m...


What "they" should do is get governmental agencies out of the business
of determining what is right or wrong in gender preferences. There
are lots of serious issues needing attention. Who someone dates, or if
adults, sleeps with or marries, is not the business of government.

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I don't equate a local school committee as being big "government".
It's likely a 50 year old policy that nobody has challenged or even
thought about before.


Government is government.

My junior year in high school, my best friend and I wrote a letter that
was published in the Register in which we griped at length at the dress
code that *required* that boys wear ties to class, *even* when the
classroom temps were in the 80's...we had no a/c in our high school.
We started a protest and a week later, on a Tuesday, *every single male*
in the school refused to enter the building unless the tie rule was
rescinded. The principal went ape****, but in the end, he gave in. He
gave me a hard time my entire senior year, though. It was worth it.

There is no reason for that mississippi school system to deny a prom to
gay or lesbian couples. The system rightfully could impose and enforce a
rule against alcoholic beverages.


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