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Government Health Care Fraud
"Canuck57" wrote in message
... On 07/03/2010 4:15 PM, bpuharic wrote: On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 14:10:34 -0700, wrote: On 07/03/2010 1:16 PM, bpuharic wrote: On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 10:21:55 -0700, wrote: The reason Obama and democrats want health care is to skim it. Get the income flow to the government then dumb down services. whattsamatter, canuck? tin foil hat slip? if they wanted control of healthcare they'd have it by now you idiot For the idiot sheeples that follow big mouth Obama remember, Canadians too have to pay big time. Williams, a premier with means uses the US for surgery as his own province and country is clearly inferior. Then this... the truth... Government health care sucks! really? and if you dont even HAVE health care like 47M dont in the US? And willing to bet 98% of those 47 million, cars, booze, drugs and living high on the hog maters more than insurance. yep more typical right wing bull****. i was unemployed for a bit when lucent technologies went under but the right wing HATES the middle class. just like canuck just proved. 10% unemployment? no health insurance? good....let 'em die. **** em and their lazy children. if they die in the streets at least the rich can have some entertainment this is PROOF that we need socialized medicine Can't say I felt sorry for them, it is all about priorities and welshing. But at least they had the freedom to chose. oh sure we did. $600/week for unemployment with no health insurance. and canuck's view? **** em. the rich will survive how bad does healthcare suck when you have NONE? Should get insurance if you can't afford the risk. uh huh. and how, precisely. does one do that? the tooth fairy perhaps? what planet do you live on? Now if it is a parapalegic and something more than a drinking or drug habit, well, the governemtn should pick up for that. But for the majority, it is about priorities. With a growing number of retirees that didn't save enough living too high on the hog, now they want socialized medicine ... LMAO. Just greedy selfish SOBs. yep. notice how he froths at the mouth at the idea the middle class should have ANY protections to him, millions unemployed is fine. dying children? great. suffering, disease, poverty? fantastic!! but let's protect the RICH!!! And try to find a basic family physician where I live, freaking near impossible. courtesy of our HMO we had to go 30 miles before we found a doctor who'd graduated from a US medical school. At least you found one. how do you feel about the karachi medical school for women? want your wife to see a doctor who's graduated from that fine instituion? Don't know the place. But medicine, many doctors are just licensed drug pushers anyway. A pill will do ya. then why you bitching? if all you need is a pill, what difference does it make where you get it? but you notice...he favors substandard care for the middle class because that's all they deserve. after all, only the rich should get good healthcare. If you are rational and literate, you can probably diagnose yourself better with the internet. gee. i was just diagnosed with meniere's disease. why not tell me about how you're gonna self diagnose that, genius? hell, i'd been to nursing school and never heard of it. The money is better in your pocket spent on a boat employing people and not government statism and marxism. the US has the most expensive healthcare in the world. guess you forgot about that you paranoid moron. Not at all. When it comes to life and death, no surprise that people want the best and willing to pay for it. too bad we dont get it. the french have a better healthcare system than we do, at half the cost so in your delusional, rush limp ball fairy tale word, what makes a health system 'better'? more cost? higher death rates? it only serves the rich? that what you consider good care? I never understood the liberal bull**** why someone is willing to spend more on better care should not be allowed to because of big fat in your face and up your ass government now wants your wallet. And if some person wants a cadillac plan, why should they not pay a premium? Americans can afford more and get more. I don't see the problem here. Just because some loser ****** is jealous? Envious? Screw them, these are sins not rights. yep, the middle class should just die, right. who needs 'em. But I shouldn't have to pay for some able bodied jack as not contributing because some idiot politician says so. They can shove it. oh. you're a paranoid right wing moron and didn't know that. Your statement is your justification of envy and greed? Sure did. Happens all the time. If my wifes father took a second mortgage out so his wife could go to Portlan OR for a heart surgery Canada would not provide. He was lucky, his house was paid for and cash/investments to cover. more **** the middle class Now, with the Mayo Clinic having done what the Alberta Cancer Board wouldn’t authorize or even explain, but with the tumour unable to be totally removed, the province will now not fund the expensive drug, Avastin, that the Mayo prescribed to keep him alive and keep the remaining tumour from increasing in size — despite the costs of the drug being totally funded by the province for other forms of cancer. oh, yes, american HMO's would NEVER turn down a sick patient's treatment, right? they ALWAYS pay for treatment.. Didn't say your system was perfect either. That is why the rules of such maters need to be open, pbli and readable to a grade 12 graduate level of understanding. ah. so we kill hundreds of thousands of kids that other countries dont...and your view is **** 'em Just that Americans still have a choice. And liberal-statism leftists hate people having choices. we have a choice? care to prove that? care to prove anything obama's doing will change that? I put on some pounds for the case of Cocoa Puffs I bought. Can't get them here. I always buy Cocoa Puffs I kid you not. I have no doubt. None whatsoever! -- Nom=de=Plume |
Government Health Care Fraud
"CalifBill" wrote in message
... "bpuharic" wrote in message ... On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 19:44:01 -0700, Canuck57 wrote: On 07/03/2010 7:17 PM, bpuharic wrote: On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 18:48:33 -0700, wrote: got the same problem here. . But lets say you lived here all your life and have one. Then the tummy hurts, call them up and they can see you in 4 weeks. So you wait 10 hours in emergency to find out you have appencitis. and if you lose your job in the US? you NEVER get to see a doctor. more proof that his solution is just to kill the middle class I doubt you are middle class, just someone who doesn't like their new station in life as a poor working class. If you work? You work? yep. thinks that all working people are lazy...cant believe we actually work Since Obama and the corrupt Congress has spent much more than Bush even thought of spending, you are never going to have money. And most of the rest of us are going to be awfully short. His new budget proposes $1.6 Trillion more in debt. At the rate he and Congress are going by the end of next year, the cost to service the debt at present very low interest rates the cost will be $800 Billion bucks a year. And interest rates will definitely be higher. What are you going to do then? There will be no money for bailouts, no money for healthcare. The government if it is the banker for healthcare, will just keep the money and meter out a minimum of heathcare. What has the stimulus accomplished? Other than keeping overpaid government workers on the payrole. "Interest rates will definitely be higher." You must be an oracle. Duhh... they're currently at historic lows, so that's not much of a leap in logic. Obama spent FAR less than Bush. Interesting how you right nuts forget about the $10T in tax cuts for the rich and the Iraqi war's $6T. "No money for healthcare." So, a public option or even better a single-payer system would have 100s of billions. Nope, can't do that, right? I'm sorry you're struggling. I'm sure the RNC would like your meager donation, since you're a reactionary and they have a fear-based strategy. -- Nom=de=Plume |
Government Health Care Fraud
On 3/7/10 11:35 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 07/03/2010 7:42 PM, Harry wrote: On 3/7/10 9:32 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 07/03/2010 7:13 PM, bpuharic wrote: On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 19:10:24 -0700, wrote: On 07/03/2010 5:43 PM, bpuharic wrote: On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 18:04:20 -0600, Frogloogyherringsnacks canuck is just another stupid idiot who's overdosed on the right wing koolaid that masquerades as social policy Nope. While you were at the union meetings, there are no unions in the US. if there were, the middle class wouldn't be as poor as it is. Hey, let us not forget the $100 billion auto disater of GM & Chrysler. Mix in mafia like unions with slack assed management and a spineless board of directors... a couple of decades and US auto is irreperably damaged. I will not buy a GM/Chrysler/GMAC/UAW/CAW/Cerberus/Carlyle anything is the result for me. As I don't like rewarding corruption, dysfunctionality and entitlement. If I was president, I would have said you want to save GM? Take out a loan on your own, each one of you UAW/CAW *******s buy the company. It would have took about $50K to 100K from each claimed UAW/CAW member and the debts would have been paid. I read the Wealthy Barber and learned investing. While you racked up debt you could not handle, setting you back I invested in myself and the markets and kept my debts down and manageble. While others were waiting for life, I went out and did lived it. And it isn't over. Liking South America more and more. blah blah blah...the middle class sucks...the m iddle class should die...blah blah blah... Now you selfish *******s who didn't invest in yourselves want a free lunch. LMAO. Get back to work, Obama wants your taxes. sorry. the GOP already cut taxes for the rich and stuck me with the bill Yep, I guess then Obama is GOP. He would be a real ass if he let Bush sign the checks in the last 14+ months now. And all with democratic congressional approval. But we all know you like to ignore those facts. Envy, greed, dilusional crap are best disposed of, and focus the energy on bettering yourself. To governemtn you are just a 9 digit number and sheeples. Yawn. You take the cake as the most uninformed right-wing gasbag posting in rec.boats. You're nothing more than a jobless ex-pat, hiding out in Canada so you can take advantage of its taxpayers and the Canadian welfare state. You remind me of Scott Ingersoll, another right-wing gasbag, except he still lives here, and he, too, lives off the largess of others. Not at all, had a better investment opportunity here and could see the US economy might go to hell. And being on visa's, well, always get out when the going is good and on your terms. Worked out quite well too. Oh, yeah...you've got me convinced you're a disgruntled old fart who games the system up in Canada because he can't make it in the USA. -- |
Government Health Care Fraud
On 07/03/2010 10:52 PM, CalifBill wrote:
wrote in message ... On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 19:44:01 -0700, wrote: On 07/03/2010 7:17 PM, bpuharic wrote: On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 18:48:33 -0700, wrote: got the same problem here. . But lets say you lived here all your life and have one. Then the tummy hurts, call them up and they can see you in 4 weeks. So you wait 10 hours in emergency to find out you have appencitis. and if you lose your job in the US? you NEVER get to see a doctor. more proof that his solution is just to kill the middle class I doubt you are middle class, just someone who doesn't like their new station in life as a poor working class. If you work? You work? yep. thinks that all working people are lazy...cant believe we actually work Since Obama and the corrupt Congress has spent much more than Bush even thought of spending, you are never going to have money. And most of the rest of us are going to be awfully short. His new budget proposes $1.6 Trillion more in debt. At the rate he and Congress are going by the end of next year, the cost to service the debt at present very low interest rates the cost will be $800 Billion bucks a year. And interest rates will definitely be higher. What are you going to do then? There will be no money for bailouts, no money for healthcare. The government if it is the banker for healthcare, will just keep the money and meter out a minimum of heathcare. What has the stimulus accomplished? Other than keeping overpaid government workers on the payrole. And likely less money for Social Security so the pain will be widespread. And they don't see the rationed health care for governemtn profit principle. I am with you on this, but bpuharic and nom-du-plume types are clearly an issue because they support Obama's madness. I am not sure if it is selfishness or stupidity or both, but they sure follow the pied piper like good little sheep. One thing no Obamanite wants to realize is how much unemployment has Obama debt-bailout spend cost in jobs? Lets say I could start a business employing 1000 people. But I know my wigits in this market have a price inflexability, I can't just pass on a 10% tax or wage hike for Obama debt and make it economically work. So I play wait and see as if companies are taxed more or I have to lower wages I get unionized or union issues, I can't afford it. So I play it safe and do not invest. Betch Obama doesn't want some independant think tank to look at the last paragraph, as investing USA is on hold until the economics of Obama-debt spend is realized. That is, who eats the shafting? -- Politicians don't provide anything, the tax payers do. |
Government Health Care Fraud
On 07/03/2010 11:30 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message ... wrote in message ... On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 19:44:01 -0700, wrote: On 07/03/2010 7:17 PM, bpuharic wrote: On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 18:48:33 -0700, wrote: got the same problem here. . But lets say you lived here all your life and have one. Then the tummy hurts, call them up and they can see you in 4 weeks. So you wait 10 hours in emergency to find out you have appencitis. and if you lose your job in the US? you NEVER get to see a doctor. more proof that his solution is just to kill the middle class I doubt you are middle class, just someone who doesn't like their new station in life as a poor working class. If you work? You work? yep. thinks that all working people are lazy...cant believe we actually work Since Obama and the corrupt Congress has spent much more than Bush even thought of spending, you are never going to have money. And most of the rest of us are going to be awfully short. His new budget proposes $1.6 Trillion more in debt. At the rate he and Congress are going by the end of next year, the cost to service the debt at present very low interest rates the cost will be $800 Billion bucks a year. And interest rates will definitely be higher. What are you going to do then? There will be no money for bailouts, no money for healthcare. The government if it is the banker for healthcare, will just keep the money and meter out a minimum of heathcare. What has the stimulus accomplished? Other than keeping overpaid government workers on the payrole. "Interest rates will definitely be higher." You must be an oracle. Duhh... they're currently at historic lows, so that's not much of a leap in logic. They can't go lower than zero. Obama spent FAR less than Bush. Interesting how you right nuts forget about the $10T in tax cuts for the rich and the Iraqi war's $6T. Not as rate/time. For rate over time, Obama is debt-spending more than 4 times faster. By the end of 2010, 2 years, Obama will have debt spent about the same as Bush did in 8 years. "No money for healthcare." So, a public option or even better a single-payer system would have 100s of billions. Nope, can't do that, right? Eventually, when you can't pay for something you lose it. Just takes time. I'm sorry you're struggling. I'm sure the RNC would like your meager donation, since you're a reactionary and they have a fear-based strategy. Doesn't mater the reason, now is not a good time to be you. -- Politicians don't provide anything, the tax payers do. |
Government Health Care Fraud
On 3/8/10 8:30 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 07/03/2010 10:52 PM, CalifBill wrote: wrote in message ... On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 19:44:01 -0700, wrote: On 07/03/2010 7:17 PM, bpuharic wrote: On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 18:48:33 -0700, wrote: got the same problem here. . But lets say you lived here all your life and have one. Then the tummy hurts, call them up and they can see you in 4 weeks. So you wait 10 hours in emergency to find out you have appencitis. and if you lose your job in the US? you NEVER get to see a doctor. more proof that his solution is just to kill the middle class I doubt you are middle class, just someone who doesn't like their new station in life as a poor working class. If you work? You work? yep. thinks that all working people are lazy...cant believe we actually work Since Obama and the corrupt Congress has spent much more than Bush even thought of spending, you are never going to have money. And most of the rest of us are going to be awfully short. His new budget proposes $1.6 Trillion more in debt. At the rate he and Congress are going by the end of next year, the cost to service the debt at present very low interest rates the cost will be $800 Billion bucks a year. And interest rates will definitely be higher. What are you going to do then? There will be no money for bailouts, no money for healthcare. The government if it is the banker for healthcare, will just keep the money and meter out a minimum of heathcare. What has the stimulus accomplished? Other than keeping overpaid government workers on the payrole. And likely less money for Social Security so the pain will be widespread. And they don't see the rationed health care for governemtn profit principle. I am with you on this, but bpuharic and nom-du-plume types are clearly an issue because they support Obama's madness. I am not sure if it is selfishness or stupidity or both, but they sure follow the pied piper like good little sheep. One thing no Obamanite wants to realize is how much unemployment has Obama debt-bailout spend cost in jobs? Lets say I could start a business employing 1000 people. But I know my wigits in this market have a price inflexability, I can't just pass on a 10% tax or wage hike for Obama debt and make it economically work. So I play wait and see as if companies are taxed more or I have to lower wages I get unionized or union issues, I can't afford it. So I play it safe and do not invest. Betch Obama doesn't want some independant think tank to look at the last paragraph, as investing USA is on hold until the economics of Obama-debt spend is realized. That is, who eats the shafting? You guys are a giggle and a half. We need more tax revenues. The way to get them is to raise all sorts of taxes on the wealthiest Americans. What are they going to do...move to Canada? Raise income taxes on the wealthy Uncap the upper limits on employee payroll taxes (not the employer share) Remove most of the corporate tax loopholes and tax breaks, except those that result in hiring Americans and buying product and services made in the USA or provided by Americans Raise the estate tax for estates over a certain amount Impose confiscatory taxes on the "bonus" earnings of those fleecing the public (commercial bankers,brokers,health insurance scammers) Use most of the funds to pay off the national debt, use some of the funds to solidify social security and medicare and to extend full medicare to every American. Have a nice day. |
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On 08/03/2010 6:42 AM, HK wrote:
On 3/8/10 8:30 AM, Canuck57 wrote: On 07/03/2010 10:52 PM, CalifBill wrote: wrote in message ... On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 19:44:01 -0700, wrote: On 07/03/2010 7:17 PM, bpuharic wrote: On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 18:48:33 -0700, wrote: got the same problem here. . But lets say you lived here all your life and have one. Then the tummy hurts, call them up and they can see you in 4 weeks. So you wait 10 hours in emergency to find out you have appencitis. and if you lose your job in the US? you NEVER get to see a doctor. more proof that his solution is just to kill the middle class I doubt you are middle class, just someone who doesn't like their new station in life as a poor working class. If you work? You work? yep. thinks that all working people are lazy...cant believe we actually work Since Obama and the corrupt Congress has spent much more than Bush even thought of spending, you are never going to have money. And most of the rest of us are going to be awfully short. His new budget proposes $1.6 Trillion more in debt. At the rate he and Congress are going by the end of next year, the cost to service the debt at present very low interest rates the cost will be $800 Billion bucks a year. And interest rates will definitely be higher. What are you going to do then? There will be no money for bailouts, no money for healthcare. The government if it is the banker for healthcare, will just keep the money and meter out a minimum of heathcare. What has the stimulus accomplished? Other than keeping overpaid government workers on the payrole. And likely less money for Social Security so the pain will be widespread. And they don't see the rationed health care for governemtn profit principle. I am with you on this, but bpuharic and nom-du-plume types are clearly an issue because they support Obama's madness. I am not sure if it is selfishness or stupidity or both, but they sure follow the pied piper like good little sheep. One thing no Obamanite wants to realize is how much unemployment has Obama debt-bailout spend cost in jobs? Lets say I could start a business employing 1000 people. But I know my wigits in this market have a price inflexability, I can't just pass on a 10% tax or wage hike for Obama debt and make it economically work. So I play wait and see as if companies are taxed more or I have to lower wages I get unionized or union issues, I can't afford it. So I play it safe and do not invest. Betch Obama doesn't want some independant think tank to look at the last paragraph, as investing USA is on hold until the economics of Obama-debt spend is realized. That is, who eats the shafting? You guys are a giggle and a half. We need more tax revenues. The way to get them is to raise all sorts of taxes on the wealthiest Americans. What are they going to do...move to Canada? Nope. Just like a former Prime Minister, move it offshore like Canadian Steam Ship Lines. Raise income taxes on the wealthy Part of the problem is they can't if the wealth are not making any money. US governemnt revenue from business is reputed to be down 55%. As businesses with lower or no profits don't pay income taxes. Same for people, doubtful Waren Buffet is paying taxes with his loss carry forwards. Uncap the upper limits on employee payroll taxes (not the employer share) Remove most of the corporate tax loopholes and tax breaks, except those that result in hiring Americans and buying product and services made in the USA or provided by Americans Raise the estate tax for estates over a certain amount Impose confiscatory taxes on the "bonus" earnings of those fleecing the public (commercial bankers,brokers,health insurance scammers) Don't worry, I am sure it is coming. In Canada the top rates were supposed to be for the "rich". But somehow once esablished it snuck down right into the middle class. Use most of the funds to pay off the national debt, use some of the funds to solidify social security and medicare and to extend full medicare to every American. Have a nice day. You will never live long enough to see the national debt payed off. Even if you were born yesterday. -- Politicians don't provide anything, the tax payers do. |
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"Canuck57" wrote in message
... On 07/03/2010 11:30 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: wrote in message ... wrote in message ... On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 19:44:01 -0700, wrote: On 07/03/2010 7:17 PM, bpuharic wrote: On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 18:48:33 -0700, wrote: got the same problem here. . But lets say you lived here all your life and have one. Then the tummy hurts, call them up and they can see you in 4 weeks. So you wait 10 hours in emergency to find out you have appencitis. and if you lose your job in the US? you NEVER get to see a doctor. more proof that his solution is just to kill the middle class I doubt you are middle class, just someone who doesn't like their new station in life as a poor working class. If you work? You work? yep. thinks that all working people are lazy...cant believe we actually work Since Obama and the corrupt Congress has spent much more than Bush even thought of spending, you are never going to have money. And most of the rest of us are going to be awfully short. His new budget proposes $1.6 Trillion more in debt. At the rate he and Congress are going by the end of next year, the cost to service the debt at present very low interest rates the cost will be $800 Billion bucks a year. And interest rates will definitely be higher. What are you going to do then? There will be no money for bailouts, no money for healthcare. The government if it is the banker for healthcare, will just keep the money and meter out a minimum of heathcare. What has the stimulus accomplished? Other than keeping overpaid government workers on the payrole. "Interest rates will definitely be higher." You must be an oracle. Duhh... they're currently at historic lows, so that's not much of a leap in logic. They can't go lower than zero. And your point (if you have one)? Interest rates are not at zero, at least not for consumers. They will go up. They're at historic lows. And, I forgot, you have no point. Obama spent FAR less than Bush. Interesting how you right nuts forget about the $10T in tax cuts for the rich and the Iraqi war's $6T. Not as rate/time. For rate over time, Obama is debt-spending more than 4 times faster. By the end of 2010, 2 years, Obama will have debt spent about the same as Bush did in 8 years. What??? Bush bankrupted the economy and you're blaming Obama???? "No money for healthcare." So, a public option or even better a single-payer system would have 100s of billions. Nope, can't do that, right? Eventually, when you can't pay for something you lose it. Just takes time. The Oracle speaketh again! I'm sorry you're struggling. I'm sure the RNC would like your meager donation, since you're a reactionary and they have a fear-based strategy. Doesn't mater the reason, now is not a good time to be you. Really? I'm doing just fine. Obviously you aren't. I'm sorry for you. -- Nom=de=Plume |
Government Health Care Fraud
"Canuck57" wrote in message
... On 07/03/2010 10:52 PM, CalifBill wrote: wrote in message ... On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 19:44:01 -0700, wrote: On 07/03/2010 7:17 PM, bpuharic wrote: On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 18:48:33 -0700, wrote: got the same problem here. . But lets say you lived here all your life and have one. Then the tummy hurts, call them up and they can see you in 4 weeks. So you wait 10 hours in emergency to find out you have appencitis. and if you lose your job in the US? you NEVER get to see a doctor. more proof that his solution is just to kill the middle class I doubt you are middle class, just someone who doesn't like their new station in life as a poor working class. If you work? You work? yep. thinks that all working people are lazy...cant believe we actually work Since Obama and the corrupt Congress has spent much more than Bush even thought of spending, you are never going to have money. And most of the rest of us are going to be awfully short. His new budget proposes $1.6 Trillion more in debt. At the rate he and Congress are going by the end of next year, the cost to service the debt at present very low interest rates the cost will be $800 Billion bucks a year. And interest rates will definitely be higher. What are you going to do then? There will be no money for bailouts, no money for healthcare. The government if it is the banker for healthcare, will just keep the money and meter out a minimum of heathcare. What has the stimulus accomplished? Other than keeping overpaid government workers on the payrole. And likely less money for Social Security so the pain will be widespread. And they don't see the rationed health care for governemtn profit principle. I am with you on this, but bpuharic and nom-du-plume types are clearly an issue because they support Obama's madness. I am not sure if it is selfishness or stupidity or both, but they sure follow the pied piper like good little sheep. One thing no Obamanite wants to realize is how much unemployment has Obama debt-bailout spend cost in jobs? Lets say I could start a business employing 1000 people. But I know my wigits in this market have a price inflexability, I can't just pass on a 10% tax or wage hike for Obama debt and make it economically work. So I play wait and see as if companies are taxed more or I have to lower wages I get unionized or union issues, I can't afford it. So I play it safe and do not invest. Betch Obama doesn't want some independant think tank to look at the last paragraph, as investing USA is on hold until the economics of Obama-debt spend is realized. That is, who eats the shafting? -- Politicians don't provide anything, the tax payers do. Yes, you "play it safe." No doubt about that. Except, not being very bright, playing it safe means you don't get out much. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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