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Canuck57[_9_] March 6th 10 04:52 PM

Ford and Boats
 

Does Ford make motors used in boats?

I ask as Ford just outsold GM as the #1 sales in the US. And there is a
stench on GM for bailouts, I have a fundimental issue with. That is, I
will not spend my money on a corporation that is in my pocket via taxations.

So does Ford supply inboard motors to anyone?

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Harry[_2_] March 6th 10 05:24 PM

Ford and Boats
 
On 3/6/10 11:52 AM, Canuck57 wrote:

I have a fundimental issue with. That is, I
will not spend my money on a corporation that is in my pocket via
taxations.


Almost every major corporation is in the pocket of government.

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Tim March 6th 10 07:10 PM

Ford and Boats
 
On Mar 6, 10:52*am, Canuck57 wrote:
Does Ford make motors used in boats?

I ask as Ford just outsold GM as the #1 sales in the US. *And there is a
stench on GM for bailouts, I have a fundimental issue with. *That is, I
will not spend my money on a corporation that is in my pocket via taxations.

So does Ford supply inboard motors to anyone?

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Politicians don't provide anything, the tax payers do.


I believe Ford got got out of the marine business long ago.
Mercuruiser used them on some of the models in the mid 70's but I take
it that GM made them a better offer on their power plants and Ford was
dropped.

OMC was the last to use them as I recall on the lowly 2.3 in their
runabouts. But there were several Ford big block 429-460 engines used
in jet boats. But that's played out by now, too.


I don't think you'll find a modern Ford engine used in any kind of
domestic marine application today, and that's sad, because they were
pretty good units, too!

Harry[_2_] March 6th 10 07:14 PM

Ford and Boats
 
On 3/6/10 2:10 PM, Tim wrote:
On Mar 6, 10:52 am, wrote:
Does Ford make motors used in boats?

I ask as Ford just outsold GM as the #1 sales in the US. And there is a
stench on GM for bailouts, I have a fundimental issue with. That is, I
will not spend my money on a corporation that is in my pocket via taxations.

So does Ford supply inboard motors to anyone?

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--------------
Politicians don't provide anything, the tax payers do.


I believe Ford got got out of the marine business long ago.
Mercuruiser used them on some of the models in the mid 70's but I take
it that GM made them a better offer on their power plants and Ford was
dropped.

OMC was the last to use them as I recall on the lowly 2.3 in their
runabouts. But there were several Ford big block 429-460 engines used
in jet boats. But that's played out by now, too.


I don't think you'll find a modern Ford engine used in any kind of
domestic marine application today, and that's sad, because they were
pretty good units, too!




No worries...Canuck isn't buying a boat.


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Canuck57[_9_] March 6th 10 09:40 PM

Ford and Boats
 
On 06/03/2010 12:10 PM, Tim wrote:
On Mar 6, 10:52 am, wrote:
Does Ford make motors used in boats?

I ask as Ford just outsold GM as the #1 sales in the US. And there is a
stench on GM for bailouts, I have a fundimental issue with. That is, I
will not spend my money on a corporation that is in my pocket via taxations.

So does Ford supply inboard motors to anyone?

--
--------------
Politicians don't provide anything, the tax payers do.


I believe Ford got got out of the marine business long ago.
Mercuruiser used them on some of the models in the mid 70's but I take
it that GM made them a better offer on their power plants and Ford was
dropped.

OMC was the last to use them as I recall on the lowly 2.3 in their
runabouts. But there were several Ford big block 429-460 engines used
in jet boats. But that's played out by now, too.


OMC is part of Bombardier, they overcharge Canadians and are tax pocket
pickers. And can't say I am a OMC fan.

I don't think you'll find a modern Ford engine used in any kind of
domestic marine application today, and that's sad, because they were
pretty good units, too!


Looking at the 18' or 19' range, googling I could find stuff for larger
boats but nothing for this size that wasn't GM. Sure don't need 450 hp
in a 18's boat.

Guess outboard is the way then. Kind of specing out what I want. But
like inboards as they tend to be better on fuel millage.


Canuck57[_9_] March 6th 10 09:46 PM

Ford and Boats
 
On 06/03/2010 12:14 PM, Harry wrote:
On 3/6/10 2:10 PM, Tim wrote:
On Mar 6, 10:52 am, wrote:
Does Ford make motors used in boats?

I ask as Ford just outsold GM as the #1 sales in the US. And there is a
stench on GM for bailouts, I have a fundimental issue with. That is, I
will not spend my money on a corporation that is in my pocket via
taxations.

So does Ford supply inboard motors to anyone?

--
--------------
Politicians don't provide anything, the tax payers do.


I believe Ford got got out of the marine business long ago.
Mercuruiser used them on some of the models in the mid 70's but I take
it that GM made them a better offer on their power plants and Ford was
dropped.

OMC was the last to use them as I recall on the lowly 2.3 in their
runabouts. But there were several Ford big block 429-460 engines used
in jet boats. But that's played out by now, too.


I don't think you'll find a modern Ford engine used in any kind of
domestic marine application today, and that's sad, because they were
pretty good units, too!


No worries...Canuck isn't buying a boat.


You think!

Look for a picture in the next year or so. Maybe you don't have one or
paid too much? Hell, this is a good time, get the deals in the next
year or two.


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Politicians don't provide anything, the tax payers do.

Frogloogyherringsnacks March 6th 10 10:36 PM

Ford and Boats
 
Canuck57 wrote:
On 06/03/2010 12:14 PM, Harry wrote:



No worries...Canuck isn't buying a boat.


You think!

Look for a picture in the next year or so. Maybe you don't have one or
paid too much? Hell, this is a good time, get the deals in the next
year or two.

Nobody will believe you.
Secretive people often brag about their fictional vast fortunes,
fleet of boats, European villas, etc.
Might as well just start lying now.
So what boat(s) do you have?



Bill McKee March 6th 10 11:30 PM

Ford and Boats
 

"Canuck57" wrote in message
...

Does Ford make motors used in boats?

I ask as Ford just outsold GM as the #1 sales in the US. And there is a
stench on GM for bailouts, I have a fundimental issue with. That is, I
will not spend my money on a corporation that is in my pocket via
taxations.

So does Ford supply inboard motors to anyone?

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Politicians don't provide anything, the tax payers do.



They used to. Red Line was a major supplier. A problem was there were the
good Windsor engine, but the industrial division was the supplier. Pulley's
were different etc. So was hard to get accessory replacement parts.



Harry[_2_] March 7th 10 01:10 AM

Ford and Boats
 
On 3/6/10 7:55 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 14:40:31 -0700,
wrote:

Guess outboard is the way then. Kind of specing out what I want. But
like inboards as they tend to be better on fuel millage.


That was when most outboards were 2 strokes and fairly primitive
designs at that.
I bet the new 4 stroke outboards do as well or better than an inboard
if the inboard is not using the same kind of computer EFI. Even then
you still have a weight penalty.



Inboards cannot compete with four stroke outboards if you are talking
similar horsepower. They weigh more, and the way they are hooked to the
prop is less efficient, whether you are using one via an outdrive or a
propshaft angled through the boat's bottom. The outboard's drive system
is less complex than that of an outdrive, and more reliable, plus you
can pull it completely out of the water. No big gasket on the transom,
either. The "straight inboard" shaft assembly is less complex than that
of the outboard, but...the inboard prop is angled. That is less efficient.




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Eisboch March 7th 10 02:01 AM

Ford and Boats
 

"Harry" wrote in message
m...


Inboards cannot compete with four stroke outboards if you are talking
similar horsepower. They weigh more, and the way they are hooked to the
prop is less efficient, whether you are using one via an outdrive or a
propshaft angled through the boat's bottom. The outboard's drive system is
less complex than that of an outdrive, and more reliable, plus you can
pull it completely out of the water. No big gasket on the transom, either.
The "straight inboard" shaft assembly is less complex than that of the
outboard, but...the inboard prop is angled. That is less efficient.


Depends on the size of the boat.

Eisboch



Canuck57[_9_] March 7th 10 02:03 AM

Ford and Boats
 
On 06/03/2010 3:36 PM, Frogloogyherringsnacks wrote:
Canuck57 wrote:
On 06/03/2010 12:14 PM, Harry wrote:



No worries...Canuck isn't buying a boat.


You think!

Look for a picture in the next year or so. Maybe you don't have one or
paid too much? Hell, this is a good time, get the deals in the next
year or two.

Nobody will believe you.
Secretive people often brag about their fictional vast fortunes,
fleet of boats, European villas, etc.
Might as well just start lying now.
So what boat(s) do you have?


None right now. Usually rent as of the last few decades.


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Politicians don't provide anything, the tax payers do.

Canuck57[_9_] March 7th 10 02:15 AM

Ford and Boats
 
On 06/03/2010 5:55 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 14:40:31 -0700,
wrote:

Guess outboard is the way then. Kind of specing out what I want. But
like inboards as they tend to be better on fuel millage.


That was when most outboards were 2 strokes and fairly primitive
designs at that.
I bet the new 4 stroke outboards do as well or better than an inboard
if the inboard is not using the same kind of computer EFI. Even then
you still have a weight penalty.


I would be going 4 stoke for sure, want range and fuel mileage not power
out of the hole. I can always put a 5 hp kicker for trolling.

I plan on using it for inland fishing. Plan on towing it with the
truck. Lake of the Woods and Rainy river will be the biggest water it sees.

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Canuck57[_9_] March 7th 10 02:18 AM

Ford and Boats
 
On 06/03/2010 6:10 PM, Harry wrote:
On 3/6/10 7:55 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 14:40:31 -0700,
wrote:

Guess outboard is the way then. Kind of specing out what I want. But
like inboards as they tend to be better on fuel millage.


That was when most outboards were 2 strokes and fairly primitive
designs at that.
I bet the new 4 stroke outboards do as well or better than an inboard
if the inboard is not using the same kind of computer EFI. Even then
you still have a weight penalty.



Inboards cannot compete with four stroke outboards if you are talking
similar horsepower. They weigh more, and the way they are hooked to the
prop is less efficient, whether you are using one via an outdrive or a
propshaft angled through the boat's bottom. The outboard's drive system
is less complex than that of an outdrive, and more reliable, plus you
can pull it completely out of the water. No big gasket on the transom,
either. The "straight inboard" shaft assembly is less complex than that
of the outboard, but...the inboard prop is angled. That is less efficient.


So are ypou saying outboards are better? More or as reliable?

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Politicians don't provide anything, the tax payers do.

Larry[_5_] March 7th 10 03:34 AM

Ford and Boats
 
Canuck57 wrote:

Does Ford make motors used in boats?

I ask as Ford just outsold GM as the #1 sales in the US. And there is
a stench on GM for bailouts, I have a fundimental issue with. That
is, I will not spend my money on a corporation that is in my pocket
via taxations.

So does Ford supply inboard motors to anyone?

I had a 4cyl Ford in my boat years ago. It was a VIP with an OMC Cobra I/O.

Larry

Harry[_2_] March 7th 10 03:38 AM

Ford and Boats
 
On 3/6/10 9:18 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 06/03/2010 6:10 PM, Harry wrote:
On 3/6/10 7:55 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 14:40:31 -0700,
wrote:

Guess outboard is the way then. Kind of specing out what I want. But
like inboards as they tend to be better on fuel millage.

That was when most outboards were 2 strokes and fairly primitive
designs at that.
I bet the new 4 stroke outboards do as well or better than an inboard
if the inboard is not using the same kind of computer EFI. Even then
you still have a weight penalty.



Inboards cannot compete with four stroke outboards if you are talking
similar horsepower. They weigh more, and the way they are hooked to the
prop is less efficient, whether you are using one via an outdrive or a
propshaft angled through the boat's bottom. The outboard's drive system
is less complex than that of an outdrive, and more reliable, plus you
can pull it completely out of the water. No big gasket on the transom,
either. The "straight inboard" shaft assembly is less complex than that
of the outboard, but...the inboard prop is angled. That is less
efficient.


So are ypou saying outboards are better? More or as reliable?


Four cycle gas outboard vs. gas inboard? I'd think that longevity and
reliability depend upon how the owner runs the engine and how well he
maintains it. Running the engine at an appropriate cruise speed, not at
WOT, changing oil, filters and other fluids, et cetera, is what matters
most after purchase.



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Harry[_2_] March 7th 10 08:29 PM

Ford and Boats
 
On 3/6/2010 9:01 PM, Eisboch wrote:
wrote in message
m...


Inboards cannot compete with four stroke outboards if you are talking
similar horsepower. They weigh more, and the way they are hooked to the
prop is less efficient, whether you are using one via an outdrive or a
propshaft angled through the boat's bottom. The outboard's drive system is
less complex than that of an outdrive, and more reliable, plus you can
pull it completely out of the water. No big gasket on the transom, either.
The "straight inboard" shaft assembly is less complex than that of the
outboard, but...the inboard prop is angled. That is less efficient.


Depends on the size of the boat.

Eisboch


You stupid ****z, I talking about the little jon boats I own. Big
boats (anything bigger than mine) should be taxed off the water.

Canuck57[_9_] March 7th 10 08:42 PM

Ford and Boats
 
On 07/03/2010 1:29 PM, Harry wrote:
On 3/6/2010 9:01 PM, Eisboch wrote:
wrote in message
m...


Inboards cannot compete with four stroke outboards if you are talking
similar horsepower. They weigh more, and the way they are hooked to the
prop is less efficient, whether you are using one via an outdrive or a
propshaft angled through the boat's bottom. The outboard's drive
system is
less complex than that of an outdrive, and more reliable, plus you can
pull it completely out of the water. No big gasket on the transom,
either.
The "straight inboard" shaft assembly is less complex than that of the
outboard, but...the inboard prop is angled. That is less efficient.


Depends on the size of the boat.

Eisboch


You stupid ****z, I talking about the little jon boats I own. Big boats
(anything bigger than mine) should be taxed off the water.


LMAO. Isn't socialism good as long as someone else is paying for it?

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