obama's stimulus works at creating jobs
 

obama's stimulus works at creating jobs
 

On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 22:01:49 -0800, "CalifBill"
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"bpuharic" wrote in message
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On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 10:59:51 -0800, "Bill McKee"
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Well said. We have felt very little pain from this economy melt down.
Yes
the 10-20% unemployed, but most have unemploymnent insurance,

actually many don't. about 1M are set to lose it. and what about their
health insurance which they don't have?


The stimulus you love, will make sure all of them are employed. If they
have no assets, the taxpayers will pay their medical bills.


that's true about the assets. if they have a house they've worked for,
however, the rich will ensure it will be taken from them

as to he stimulus...even that can't undo the damage bush did

obama's stimulus works at creating jobs
 

nom=de=plume wrote:
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On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 18:43:50 -0500, bpuharic wrote:

who are you talking about? brave and heroic US and Canadian troops who
are dying to protect freedom?

In no way disrespectful of the fighting men, do you think we are more
"free" than we were in 1991 when we started our middle eastern
crusade? It is clear the terrorists have won.
really? gee. the last time a terrorist attack happened in the US by
islamists was 2001.
Detroit?

But that is not the point. I addressed "freedom". Do you really think
there have been no intrusions on your freedom, in the name of
security, since 1991?
The terrorists don't even have to be successful to cause us billions
of dollars in damage and huge intrusions into our lives.



Wow... I actually agree with you! :) I think we need to stop being
terrified, and get on with life.

You go girl.

obama's stimulus works at creating jobs
 

On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 00:58:27 -0500, wrote:



I agree these impositions are minimal if you want to look at what FDR
did. He held a whole race of people in prison without charges for 4
years, even American citizens. That makes Guantanamo look like cub
scout camp.

true. although bush DID try...

You really have to get over this obsession with Bush.

say what?

we got whole groups of folks here who think bush had no control over
the economy for 8 years...was all clinton's fault...but then obama
came in and, on jan 20 of last year, immediately spent a trillion
dollars on his first day in office


The Patriot act
was first floated out there by the Clinton administration and the
latest round of airport foolishness is from Obama.

and yet it was bush who tried to suspend habeas corpus; who arrested

As far as I am concerned, the biggest thing Bush did was get the left,
who usually think government can do no wrong, looking at this
surveillance more critically. When it was the Janet Reno DoJ pushing
the original Patriot act, those who dissented were called wingnuts and
kooks. Now the left thinks you can have too much surveillance ...
unless you think it is OK now.

the left has always been paranoid about police powers.


When true fascism comes it will be disguised in a program to make us
"safer".

or, as barry goldwarter said, it will come wrapped in the american
flag and carrying a cross

.

obama's stimulus works at creating jobs
 

On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 21:25:18 -0700, Canuck57
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On 23/02/2010 7:07 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 17:46:42 -0700,
wrote:


we can see his view that tens of millions of people walking the street
is fine

as long as the rich do OK

In real no BS unadjusted terms, raw unemployment will go past 25 this
year. I figure in October/November.


thanks to bush's deficit. and no one knows what 'raw employment'
is...seems like another right wing definiition

Because Obamanomics is about screwing producers and rewarding the
corrupt. It is a 100% dismal failure from a big mouth buffoon.

except it stopped the rise in unemployment...and you just refuse to
look at the numbers


And as other debtor governments are now doing, they are pulling in the
spending horns real fast as they know the bottom is yet to come.
Governemtns are offering bond, they go unfilled. Yep, governmetns are
now becoming worried as the big debt ponzi scheme didn't work.

Did you know as of Sept 2008 when it looked like Obama was going to win,
the US government hasn't been able to borrow the money it needs from the
markets? It is wholely created new money... inflationary money.


what do you think the debt would be if unemployment hit 25%?

obama's stimulus works at creating jobs
 

nom=de=plume wrote:
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On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 15:11:45 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
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Private companies do a lot more than NIH. I only have to point to the
human genome project where a private company cracked the code in
months and NIH dunced around for years on it.
No they don't. The NIH is not tasked with things in so narrow of a focus.
Go
to their website and read their mission statement.
I worked at NIH for several years (IBM). I know the culture


But, the NIH doesn't have as it's mission to make a profit.

"The National Institutes of Health (NIH), a part of the U.S. Department of
Health and Human Services, is the primary Federal agency for conducting and
supporting medical research. Helping to lead the way toward important
medical discoveries that improve people's health and save lives, NIH
scientists investigate ways to prevent disease as well as the causes,
treatments, and even cures for common and rare diseases. Composed of 27
Institutes and Centers, the NIH provides leadership and financial support to
researchers in every state and throughout the world."

There are several here, perhaps you included, who would rather have it be
either a profit center or be for profit. I think I'll stick with them the
way they are, all faults included.

Greed motivates. Accepting handouts (financial support), in no way
motivates people to complete projects or accomplish anything. You seem
to be stuck on stupid.

obama's stimulus works at creating jobs
 

nom=de=plume wrote:
"CalifBill" wrote in message
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"bpuharic" wrote in message
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On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 10:59:51 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:

Well said. We have felt very little pain from this economy melt down.
Yes
the 10-20% unemployed, but most have unemploymnent insurance,
actually many don't. about 1M are set to lose it. and what about their
health insurance which they don't have?

The stimulus you love, will make sure all of them are employed. If they
have no assets, the taxpayers will pay their medical bills.

No one "loves" the stim, but it helped. Your claim is ridiculous on the face
of it. I guess you're unaware of how ERs work. They treat you with or
without insurance. If you don't have it, the taxpayer pays. That's the most
expensive way to treat people.

Stabilize and ship out. That's all a for profit hospital is required to do.

obama's stimulus works at creating jobs
 

anon-e-moose wrote:
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On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 15:11:45 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Private companies do a lot more than NIH. I only have to point to the
human genome project where a private company cracked the code in
months and NIH dunced around for years on it.
No they don't. The NIH is not tasked with things in so narrow of a
focus. Go to their website and read their mission statement.

I worked at NIH for several years (IBM). I know the culture

But that dumb ass bitch read the mission statement. Doesn't that count
for anything?

Ignore that **** for now, Jim. She's getting the best of us.
Back off until another thread starts and we'll try again.
**** around with slammer for a while.
I don't see the calculator instructions you said you'd send me in my
email. Did you send that? And send me the real stimulus numbers I
should use. That asshole spoofing you said my numbers are off.

obama's stimulus works at creating jobs
 

On Feb 24, 12:19*am, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"TopBassDog" wrote in message

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On Feb 23, 11:37 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:

Drop dead you little coward (metaphorically of course). You're not man
enough even to post under your real name, unlike him.

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Nom=de=Plume
And just what in the heavens is a "Nom=de=Plume?"

When you were younger were you called 'Nommie?"

I'm a woman and I don't need stalkers such as yourself. Were you ever
mistaken for a man? If so, by whom?

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Nom=de=Plume

Actually you DO need stalkers, D'Plume. I'm sure it boosts your ego,
or at least, gives you some type of satisfaction to know that someone
is actually paying attention to you.

D'Plume, were you ever mistaken for Rosie O'Donnell? I'm sure you
could be rather easily.

obama's stimulus works at creating jobs
 

On Feb 24, 5:07*am, anon-e-moose wrote:
nom=de=plume wrote:
"TopBassDog" wrote in message
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On Feb 23, 11:37 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:

Drop dead you little coward (metaphorically of course). You're not man
enough even to post under your real name, unlike him.

--
Nom=de=Plume

And just what in the heavens is a "Nom=de=Plume?"

When you were younger were you called 'Nommie?"

I'm a woman and I don't need stalkers.

There you go with those wild , exaggerated, if not false claims again.
For all we know, you could be Pee Wee Herman. The only thing you have
said about yourself that is even somewhat believable is that you drive a
really old rusted out F150.

Hmm. "A tuff 'ol gal totin' a shotgun and drivin' an 'ol pick up ter-r-
ruk. Now that sounds like the makin's of a country western sawng
t'me."