On 20/02/2010 3:02 PM, your kind of guy wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 14:00:08 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:

On 20/02/2010 1:23 PM, your kind of guy wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 13:09:20 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:

Unfortunately Caanda is in lock step with the US.... this bailout horse
**** is going to drag Canada right into it. We are already taxed up the
ass and can't afford the GM, Chrysler and bank screw over.

Tough ****. Maybe Obama has some friendly advice for a toilet cleaner such
as yourself.

Guess you are just another liberal.

If the US goes belly up so goes the world. Preach your bullship all you
want. We all see your agenda.

US isn't going to go belly up, but take a step down the economic ladder,
you bet. China is growing like the US is shrinking as a percentage of
world GDP.

On 20/02/2010 2:04 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
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On 20/02/2010 11:23 AM, nom=de=plume wrote:
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On 19/02/2010 9:41 PM, bpuharic wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/17/bu...nhardt.html?hp

Just look at the outside evaluations of the stimulus. Perhaps the
best-known economic research firms are IHS Global Insight,
Macroeconomic Advisers and Moody’s Economy.com. They all estimate that
the bill has added 1.6 million to 1.8 million jobs so far and that its
ultimate impact will be roughly 2.5 million jobs. The Congressional
Budget Office, an independent agency, considers these estimates to be
conservative.

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this is after the recent USAtoday interview of 50 economists, where
the median estimate of job creation was about 1.5M jobs

seems everyone knows the stimulus is working

except the right wing

Even if it were say 2 million jobs, that is about $1 million per job on
a
$2 trillion debt-spending spree.

Like usually, not very cost effective no mater how you look at it.

But if they balanced the governemnts pending, and say eliminated 50% or
more of fedeal income tax, bet the jobs would be created coat to coast
was
the people would actually keep more of their own money and it will not
"disappear" or be skimmed by the government.

On a dollar cost basis, at best Obamanomics is a dismal monumentus
failure.


Fortunately for you, it doesn't matter, since you're not an American and
you
hate our country.

Unfortunately Caanda is in lock step with the US.... this bailout horse
**** is going to drag Canada right into it. We are already taxed up the
ass and can't afford the GM, Chrysler and bank screw over.


I think you should move to Russia.


Nope, I was thinking of somewhere south of Mexico....

On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 16:12:46 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:

On 20/02/2010 3:02 PM, your kind of guy wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 14:00:08 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:

On 20/02/2010 1:23 PM, your kind of guy wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 13:09:20 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:

Unfortunately Caanda is in lock step with the US.... this bailout horse
**** is going to drag Canada right into it. We are already taxed up the
ass and can't afford the GM, Chrysler and bank screw over.

Tough ****. Maybe Obama has some friendly advice for a toilet cleaner such
as yourself.

Guess you are just another liberal.

If the US goes belly up so goes the world. Preach your bullship all you
want. We all see your agenda.

US isn't going to go belly up, but take a step down the economic ladder,
you bet. China is growing like the US is shrinking as a percentage of
world GDP.

We all knew that when W.Bush was making a dope out of the Republicans for
eight years. jeeesis, were you locked up at the time.

"Canuck57" wrote in message
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On 20/02/2010 2:04 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
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On 20/02/2010 11:23 AM, nom=de=plume wrote:
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On 19/02/2010 9:41 PM, bpuharic wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/17/bu...nhardt.html?hp

Just look at the outside evaluations of the stimulus. Perhaps the
best-known economic research firms are IHS Global Insight,
Macroeconomic Advisers and Moody’s Economy.com. They all estimate
that
the bill has added 1.6 million to 1.8 million jobs so far and that
its
ultimate impact will be roughly 2.5 million jobs. The Congressional
Budget Office, an independent agency, considers these estimates to be
conservative.

------------

this is after the recent USAtoday interview of 50 economists, where
the median estimate of job creation was about 1.5M jobs

seems everyone knows the stimulus is working

except the right wing

Even if it were say 2 million jobs, that is about $1 million per job
on
a
$2 trillion debt-spending spree.

Like usually, not very cost effective no mater how you look at it.

But if they balanced the governemnts pending, and say eliminated 50%
or
more of fedeal income tax, bet the jobs would be created coat to coast
was
the people would actually keep more of their own money and it will not
"disappear" or be skimmed by the government.

On a dollar cost basis, at best Obamanomics is a dismal monumentus
failure.


Fortunately for you, it doesn't matter, since you're not an American
and
you
hate our country.

Unfortunately Caanda is in lock step with the US.... this bailout horse
**** is going to drag Canada right into it. We are already taxed up the
ass and can't afford the GM, Chrysler and bank screw over.


I think you should move to Russia.


Nope, I was thinking of somewhere south of Mexico....


Great idea. Let us know when you arrive!

--
Nom=de=Plume

On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 17:07:53 -0800, "CalifBill"
wrote:


"bpuharic" wrote in message
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On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 17:00:53 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:



what i see is that the right never blames the rich white guy for the
problems he created

instead, they blame them on the black guy, cuz black guys aren't
supposed to have power.

that's called 'racism'

No racism is you! Injecting the N word and saying because Obama is black he
is perfect

really? got proof i believe that?

oh. you dont


Obama has screwed up! Tarp was to stop the depression,

what you ignore is that obama had precisely

zero

control over the deficit last year. none. nada. the numbers were
alreeady determined by bush's tax cuts, the war in iraq and the
collapse of the economy

yet you blame obama.

so if you blame him for something he had NO control over, while saying
NOTHING about the WHITE guy who DID have control over it

that's racism


Stimulus was to keep unemployment under 8%.

no one ever said that was the purpose. sorry

Tarp was Bush. So I guess he
was more successful than Obama. Real unemployment is probably closer to or
above 17%.

again this is bush's fault. obama had no control over the economy last
year. none.


And those 2 million jobs. What cost per job, and how many were
created?

first you guys said NO jobs were created NOW you admit he DID create
jobs.


They give a bunch of money to the San Francisco Muni for
maintenance and call that jobs saved and / or created. Government jobs that
do not add to the real income of the USA. Government workers. How many
real jobs, tax paying, GDP improving jobs were created for that $2 Trillion
buckeroos?

i'd rather do that than spend a trillion on a war for the iraqis who
hate us anyhow and killed 4400 american soldiers

you guys are just racist

On 20/02/2010 4:28 PM, your kind of guy wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 16:12:46 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:

On 20/02/2010 3:02 PM, your kind of guy wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 14:00:08 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:

On 20/02/2010 1:23 PM, your kind of guy wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 13:09:20 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:

Unfortunately Caanda is in lock step with the US.... this bailout horse
**** is going to drag Canada right into it. We are already taxed up the
ass and can't afford the GM, Chrysler and bank screw over.

Tough ****. Maybe Obama has some friendly advice for a toilet cleaner such
as yourself.

Guess you are just another liberal.

If the US goes belly up so goes the world. Preach your bullship all you
want. We all see your agenda.

US isn't going to go belly up, but take a step down the economic ladder,
you bet. China is growing like the US is shrinking as a percentage of
world GDP.

We all knew that when W.Bush was making a dope out of the Republicans for
eight years. jeeesis, were you locked up at the time.

Ya, but the real dope is in office:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...idential_terms

Busy morgaging your future.

Look a the Barack Obama world record debt increase of 35%!!!!!!!!!!!

Yep, Obama the big mouth will carry the US debt to more than GDP at the
rate he is going.

LMAO. Til Debt Do Us Part.

On 20/02/2010 6:12 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
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On 20/02/2010 2:04 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
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On 20/02/2010 11:23 AM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
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On 19/02/2010 9:41 PM, bpuharic wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/17/bu...nhardt.html?hp

Just look at the outside evaluations of the stimulus. Perhaps the
best-known economic research firms are IHS Global Insight,
Macroeconomic Advisers and Moody’s Economy.com. They all estimate
that
the bill has added 1.6 million to 1.8 million jobs so far and that
its
ultimate impact will be roughly 2.5 million jobs. The Congressional
Budget Office, an independent agency, considers these estimates to be
conservative.

------------

this is after the recent USAtoday interview of 50 economists, where
the median estimate of job creation was about 1.5M jobs

seems everyone knows the stimulus is working

except the right wing

Even if it were say 2 million jobs, that is about $1 million per job
on
a
$2 trillion debt-spending spree.

Like usually, not very cost effective no mater how you look at it.

But if they balanced the governemnts pending, and say eliminated 50%
or
more of fedeal income tax, bet the jobs would be created coat to coast
was
the people would actually keep more of their own money and it will not
"disappear" or be skimmed by the government.

On a dollar cost basis, at best Obamanomics is a dismal monumentus
failure.


Fortunately for you, it doesn't matter, since you're not an American
and
you
hate our country.

Unfortunately Caanda is in lock step with the US.... this bailout horse
**** is going to drag Canada right into it. We are already taxed up the
ass and can't afford the GM, Chrysler and bank screw over.


I think you should move to Russia.


Nope, I was thinking of somewhere south of Mexico....


Great idea. Let us know when you arrive!

Will do, after I go fishing that is...

On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 20:18:13 -0500, bpuharic wrote:

On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 17:07:53 -0800, "CalifBill"
wrote:


"bpuharic" wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 17:00:53 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:



what i see is that the right never blames the rich white guy for the
problems he created

instead, they blame them on the black guy, cuz black guys aren't
supposed to have power.

that's called 'racism'

No racism is you! Injecting the N word and saying because Obama is black he
is perfect

really? got proof i believe that?

oh. you dont


Obama has screwed up! Tarp was to stop the depression,

what you ignore is that obama had precisely

zero

control over the deficit last year. none. nada. the numbers were
alreeady determined by bush's tax cuts, the war in iraq and the
collapse of the economy

yet you blame obama.

so if you blame him for something he had NO control over, while saying
NOTHING about the WHITE guy who DID have control over it

that's racism


Stimulus was to keep unemployment under 8%.

no one ever said that was the purpose. sorry

Tarp was Bush. So I guess he
was more successful than Obama. Real unemployment is probably closer to or
above 17%.

again this is bush's fault. obama had no control over the economy last
year. none.


And those 2 million jobs. What cost per job, and how many were
created?

first you guys said NO jobs were created NOW you admit he DID create
jobs.


They give a bunch of money to the San Francisco Muni for
maintenance and call that jobs saved and / or created. Government jobs that
do not add to the real income of the USA. Government workers. How many
real jobs, tax paying, GDP improving jobs were created for that $2 Trillion
buckeroos?

i'd rather do that than spend a trillion on a war for the iraqis who
hate us anyhow and killed 4400 american soldiers

you guys are just racist



If you feel better blaming 'Bama's ****ups on racism, go for it.
--
John H

"A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul."
-- George Bernard Shaw

On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 20:35:05 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 20:18:13 -0500, bpuharic wrote:


first you guys said NO jobs were created NOW you admit he DID create
jobs.


They give a bunch of money to the San Francisco Muni for
maintenance and call that jobs saved and / or created. Government jobs that
do not add to the real income of the USA. Government workers. How many
real jobs, tax paying, GDP improving jobs were created for that $2 Trillion
buckeroos?

i'd rather do that than spend a trillion on a war for the iraqis who
hate us anyhow and killed 4400 american soldiers

you guys are just racist



If you feel better blaming 'Bama's ****ups on racism, go for it.

OK i will. because it's the truth

On 20/02/2010 6:18 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 17:07:53 -0800, "CalifBill"
wrote:


wrote in message
...
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 17:00:53 -0500, wrote:



what i see is that the right never blames the rich white guy for the
problems he created

instead, they blame them on the black guy, cuz black guys aren't
supposed to have power.

that's called 'racism'

No racism is you! Injecting the N word and saying because Obama is black he
is perfect

really? got proof i believe that?

oh. you dont


Obama has screwed up! Tarp was to stop the depression,

what you ignore is that obama had precisely

zero

control over the deficit last year. none. nada. the numbers were
alreeady determined by bush's tax cuts, the war in iraq and the
collapse of the economy

yet you blame obama.

so if you blame him for something he had NO control over, while saying
NOTHING about the WHITE guy who DID have control over it

Sorry, it wasn't Bush who bailed everyone out. Bush spread a small
amount to get them to Obama's real inaguration date, that was it. When
GM pork was needed, when banks came up, Obama was there with the cheque
book. As of January 2009 it was Obama's baby. Any dimes spent since
then are Obama's doing.

Obama is just using it as an excuse to forget about fiscal sanity, and
debt spend. Trouble is the fool does not understand, you can't spend
your way out of debt, just get some serious consequences later.

And those 2 million jobs. What cost per job, and how many were
created?

first you guys said NO jobs were created NOW you admit he DID create
jobs.

Just using the numbers you clain against the price paid. Not a very
good deal if you ask me. 2 trillion and 2 million jobs. Do the math.

They give a bunch of money to the San Francisco Muni for
maintenance and call that jobs saved and / or created. Government jobs that
do not add to the real income of the USA. Government workers. How many
real jobs, tax paying, GDP improving jobs were created for that $2 Trillion
buckeroos?

i'd rather do that than spend a trillion on a war for the iraqis who
hate us anyhow and killed 4400 american soldiers

you guys are just racist

Not at all. Just Obama wants to hide behind the race card. He is now
about to become the worlds biggest debt monger ever on 2010. No
restraint, just liberal debt...

Going to be a long depression.