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"Canuck57" wrote in message
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On 20/02/2010 11:04 AM, nom=de=plume wrote:
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On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 13:13:44 -0500, I am Tosk
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On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 22:19:28 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
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a beef with the IRS means it's ok to kill
people. That's just sick.


I agree this guy is a terrorist, just as much as McVeigh, the shoe
bomber and the jock strap jihadist.
I also agree with Scotty that the Sea Shepards, ELF tree spikers and
ski lodge arsonists, along with abortion clinic bombers and the people
who used to burn draft centers are terrorists too.
Anyone who is willing to endanger life to promote their cause is a
terrorist.
Unfortunately that makes John Adams a terrorist too ... at least that
is what King George thought.


One could argue that John Adams killed in self defense? I am not really
familiar with his history, it's been a long time since I studied that;)

Scotty

I doubt John Adams actually killed anyone himself but he advocated the
violent overthrow of the British government in the American colonies.
In that regard he was the bin laden of that movement.


Adams had no military experience and didn't engage in war while
president.
He was a lawyer and a diplomat.

But in the British eyes, a treasonous traitor.

By your logic, Osama Bin Laden didn't pull the trigger either. Has lots
of degrees including economics.

Don't get me wrong, if I saw Osama and could kill him, I would. But the
point is, one sides hero is the other sides enemy. It is relative to your
position in the field.


By most intelligent people's logic, you're a ninny.

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Nom=de=Plume

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On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 18:12:45 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:

Did him up. He sounds like a leader alright.
I wish he were still here.
I want to know if it was worth it.

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On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 13:02:12 -0800, nom=de=plume wrote:

"Canuck57" wrote in message
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On 20/02/2010 11:04 AM, nom=de=plume wrote:
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On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 13:13:44 -0500, I am Tosk
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In article86ktn5lruo0p72nm915dc6gad5ee4h2edj@4aWARNI NG: The message is mostly quoted text.
Post anyway, despite this problem?x.com,

says...

On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 22:19:28 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

a beef with the IRS means it's ok to kill
people. That's just sick.


I agree this guy is a terrorist, just as much as McVeigh, the shoe
bomber and the jock strap jihadist.
I also agree with Scotty that the Sea Shepards, ELF tree spikers and
ski lodge arsonists, along with abortion clinic bombers and the people
who used to burn draft centers are terrorists too.
Anyone who is willing to endanger life to promote their cause is a
terrorist.
Unfortunately that makes John Adams a terrorist too ... at least that
is what King George thought.


One could argue that John Adams killed in self defense? I am not really
familiar with his history, it's been a long time since I studied that;)

Scotty
WARNING: The message is mostly quoted text.
Post anyway, despite this problem?
I doubt John Adams actually killed anyone himself but he advocated the
violent overthrow of the British government in the American colonies.
In that regard he was the bin laden of that movement.


Adams had no military experience and didn't engage in war while
president.
He was a lawyer and a diplomat.

But in the British eyes, a treasonous traitor.

By your logic, Osama Bin Laden didn't pull the trigger either. Has lots
of degrees including economics.

Don't get me wrong, if I saw Osama and could kill him, I would. But the
point is, one sides hero is the other sides enemy. It is relative to your
position in the field.


By most intelligent people's logic, you're a ninny.

And your too kind!

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wrote in message
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On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 13:02:12 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Adams had no military experience and didn't engage in war while
president.
He was a lawyer and a diplomat.

But in the British eyes, a treasonous traitor.

By your logic, Osama Bin Laden didn't pull the trigger either. Has lots
of degrees including economics.

Don't get me wrong, if I saw Osama and could kill him, I would. But the
point is, one sides hero is the other sides enemy. It is relative to
your
position in the field.


By most intelligent people's logic, you're a ninny.

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It is always true that one man's terrorist is another man's patriot.
The winner also always gets to decide how that person goes down in
history.
The Vietnamese named their capital city after Ho Chi Minh.
If things had turned out the other way it might be Johnsonville or
Nguyen Van Thiu City and 80,000 Vietcong would have been rounded up
and shot..



Ummm... being a "treasonous traitor" (which is fairly redundant but look who
wrote it) is quite different than being a terrorist.


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Nom=de=Plume

Nom da plume off topic as usual
 

nom=de=plume wrote:
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On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 13:02:12 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Adams had no military experience and didn't engage in war while
president.
He was a lawyer and a diplomat.
But in the British eyes, a treasonous traitor.

By your logic, Osama Bin Laden didn't pull the trigger either. Has lots
of degrees including economics.

Don't get me wrong, if I saw Osama and could kill him, I would. But the
point is, one sides hero is the other sides enemy. It is relative to
your
position in the field.

By most intelligent people's logic, you're a ninny.

--
It is always true that one man's terrorist is another man's patriot.
The winner also always gets to decide how that person goes down in
history.
The Vietnamese named their capital city after Ho Chi Minh.
If things had turned out the other way it might be Johnsonville or
Nguyen Van Thiu City and 80,000 Vietcong would have been rounded up
and shot..



Ummm... being a "treasonous traitor" (which is fairly redundant but look who
wrote it) is quite different than being a terrorist.

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On 19/02/2010 11:10 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
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On 19/02/2010 2:52 AM, Jim wrote:
Canuck57 wrote:

I must admit, I agree with this guys letter.

Lib - Ever wonder the percentage of IRS agents who are lib?

Bet most are. Better than 1/2 any way.


Because they work for the government, right?

Yep. People tend to gravitate towards their environment, and government
saying to itself we must become smaller, leaner and rationalize what we
do it not an intrinsic traight. More likely, whining and polics to
justify bigger, fatter more in your face government is the norm.

And liberals and statists get along better than say a conservative and
statist. Or a Libratarian and Liberal...

Yep, I would say yes.

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On 20/02/2010 11:22 AM, nom=de=plume wrote:
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On 19/02/2010 11:10 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
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On 19/02/2010 2:52 AM, Jim wrote:
Canuck57 wrote:

I must admit, I agree with this guys letter.

Lib - Ever wonder the percentage of IRS agents who are lib?

Bet most are. Better than 1/2 any way.


Because they work for the government, right?

Yep. Ever work for the government? What a mess, as a consultant I was
glad I had a term engagement and could get out.


So, you worked for the government? Hard to believe, but if so, you must be a
liberal! Now that's funny!

Government and I have crossed paths on a few occassions. Nope, not a
liberal. In each contact I got the impression dysfunctional politics
was more important than rationality. I can't see how anyone would ever
last 30-40 years in government without going insane.

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On Feb 19, 8:15*pm, jps wrote:
On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 15:26:17 -0800 (PST), Tim
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On Feb 19, wrote:
On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 14:14:13 -0800 (PST), Tim
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On Feb 19, wrote:
On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 12:50:37 -0800 (PST), Tim
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On Feb 19, wrote:
On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 08:38:40 -0800 (PST), Tim
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On Feb 19, wrote:
On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 01:06:58 -0800 (PST), Tim
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On Feb 19, 12:19*am, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
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On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 18:12:45 -0700, Canuck57
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I must admit, I agree with this guys letter. *The appathetic sheep in US
and Canada should wake up and assert economic freedom to the
governments. *Make the crooked *******s in our society pay with their
lives.

Ah, Canadian al Qaeda. *You're just as insane as we've come to expect.

If it's Tim McVeigh or that assholes in Kansas who thinks he was right
in killing the abortion doctor, it's just a crime.

If a brown person does it on behalf of Allah, they're a terrorist.

There's no difference between this asshole and bin Laden apart from
the sizes of their organizations.

Good grief... Canuck thinks that a beef with the IRS means it's ok to kill
people. That's just sick.

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Nom=de=Plume

He said this:

"I must admit, I agree with this guys letter. *The apathetic sheep in
US and Canada should wake up and assert economic freedom to the
governments. *Make the crooked *******s in our society pay with their
lives. "

Do you see ANYTHING there that promotes murder?

C'mon....

Uh, it's not what he wrote that's affecting people the most, it's the
innocent victims in the IRS office who did nothing to deserve being
killed or injured.

But feel free to join the al Qaeda-like thinking Tim. *And certainly
do promote among your friends and family.

I don't like fundies and I think they're screwing up our country.
Should I drive my car into the nearest fundie church with a load of
explosives?- Hide quoted text -

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No you shouldn't unless you feel for some mad reason it's justifiable.
There's famous leftists college professors that believe in it, so, why
shouldn't you? One did bomb people and has little regrets and I
believe his name is Ayers.

Oh, so you're endorsing the practice? *

Seems you agree with the guy who flew his plane into the IRS building,
killing innocent people. *You most likely agree with the Kansas City
killer for taking out the abortion doctor.

Based on my hatred of fundies, you're saying I should feel free to
exercise my anger by delivering a car bomb or some other destructive
force to a fundie center near me?

Because I'm tired of fundies screwing up our country?- Hide quoted text -

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Whatever you wish to think. That is your option.

?;^ )

Yours is a no-response. *

Incapable of saying anything to further your "argument" or refute
mine? *That's just what I expected.

Your children will watch the downfall of their father's country for
lack of reason.

You're a prime example.- Hide quoted text -

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I don't argue, and I don't insult either. But thanks for giving me
that option.

?;^ )

You have the option of refuting the argument without insulting me.

We each show our passion in different ways, we each show our
intellectual capabilities in different ways.

Turning the other cheek isn't going to save our country from going
down the ****ter and your complicit agreement with this bloody lunatic
is among the reasons this country is taking a dive.

Make sure to tell your kids that you're part of the problem, if they
don't already know.

Oh believe me. I most certainly will!

LOL!

Let Jesus know next time you pseudo talk to him. *Say hi to J for me
and let him know that he's a pussy too. *I'm sure he's loving the IRS
kamikazi as much as you.

Pseudo libertarians.

I'd like to send a few Seattle anarchists your way. *They'd make you
crap your pants before you ever got close to your cache of weapons.


"Are you attempting a personal attack?"

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On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 15:26:04 -0700, Canuck57
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Government and I have crossed paths on a few occassions. Nope, not a
liberal. In each contact I got the impression dysfunctional politics
was more important than rationality. I can't see how anyone would ever
last 30-40 years in government without going insane.

and i used to work for ATT. they went under. free market capitalism,
unregulated, aint no great deal either

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On 21/02/2010 3:50 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 15:26:04 -0700,
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Government and I have crossed paths on a few occassions. Nope, not a
liberal. In each contact I got the impression dysfunctional politics
was more important than rationality. I can't see how anyone would ever
last 30-40 years in government without going insane.

and i used to work for ATT. they went under. free market capitalism,
unregulated, aint no great deal either

ATT was like government, fat and lethargic. I worked for a company that
loved competing with ATT, we used to joke, "It isn't that we are so
good, it is that they are far worse."

I worked for NorTel as we smashed ATT's Western Electric into the
ground. Free market capitalism rocks. The lethargic idiots made a
product that no one wanted and we made ones companies wanted. Their
appathy was their doom.

But in 1995, I could see NorTel management got what I call dysfunctional
senior management. So I left. No sense in dealing with idiot senior
managers. Boy, was I right to leave when I did. Lesson learned, keep
your eyes wide open.