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On 19/02/2010 11:10 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
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On 19/02/2010 2:52 AM, Jim wrote:
Canuck57 wrote:

I must admit, I agree with this guys letter.

Lib - Ever wonder the percentage of IRS agents who are lib?

Bet most are. Better than 1/2 any way.


Because they work for the government, right?

Yep. Ever work for the government? What a mess, as a consultant I was
glad I had a term engagement and could get out.

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On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 01:06:58 -0800 (PST), Tim
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On Feb 19, 12:19 am, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
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On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 18:12:45 -0700, Canuck57

wrote:

I must admit, I agree with this guys letter. The appathetic sheep
in
US
and Canada should wake up and assert economic freedom to the
governments. Make the crooked *******s in our society pay with
their
lives.

Ah, Canadian al Qaeda. You're just as insane as we've come to
expect.

If it's Tim McVeigh or that assholes in Kansas who thinks he was
right
in killing the abortion doctor, it's just a crime.

If a brown person does it on behalf of Allah, they're a
terrorist.

There's no difference between this asshole and bin Laden apart
from
the sizes of their organizations.

Good grief... Canuck thinks that a beef with the IRS means it's ok
to
kill
people. That's just sick.

--
Nom=de=Plume

He said this:

"I must admit, I agree with this guys letter. The apathetic sheep in
US and Canada should wake up and assert economic freedom to the
governments. Make the crooked *******s in our society pay with their
lives. "

Do you see ANYTHING there that promotes murder?

C'mon....

Tim, I don't think she's going to pass up any opportunity to throw
the
gratuituous strawman into the fray. Without the informal fallacy,
most radicalized liberals would have to rely only on the patented
shout-down.


Screw you. You're a fraud intellectual. Canuck posted the entire rant,
then
Tim claimed there are pieces of it that are "reasonable." That's a
fraud.

Ma'am, I lay no claim to being an intellectual, legitimately or
otherwise. Tim did not claim in his original response to you that
"pieces of it are reasonable." He asked you if what he quoted was a
promotion of murder. The fraudulence lies in your diversion.


You're a liar.

Uh, nincdepoop, we can all read.

Perhaps you could be a tad more specific with your accusation. About what
did he
lie?

Some of us can read, others confabulate. You, John, are obviously a
reader...


And, you're a liar. I don't like fake people. You make it seem like you're
highly educated, but I suspect you're not. I'd rather have a beer with an
honest redneck with a high school education than a pseudo-intellectual such
as yourself.

On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 22:10:13 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote:

Right! So, when you don't like what someone has to say, you make up
derogatory names to put them down. Typical from you guys.

It's so...psuedo-intellectual.

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On 19/02/2010 9:25 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 18:12:45 -0700,
wrote:


I must admit, I agree with this guys letter. The appathetic sheep in US
and Canada should wake up and assert economic freedom to the
governments. Make the crooked *******s in our society pay with their lives.

For example, Wagoner of GM. He should have been stripped of his wealth
and spent the rest of his days in labour camp. Instead, Obama gives
hime a severance and $20 million dollar pension plan. And now working
middle class pays the bills. Wagoner is only one of thousands screwing
us left and right with their corruption.

the middle class already paid for bush's trillion dollar lie in iraq.
what's $20M which was already in the works with bush?


Maybe it is time to vote independant or for representatives with a solid
and honest track record of proactively calling corruption corruption.

the US political system is fatally corrupt. it's legal corruption and
the bush supreme court justices just approved it big time

I would have to agree with that, the US federal system is fatally
corrupt at this juncture. Part of why the economy is bad is that no one
trusts the system any more. Debtors don't have to pay, companies and
people can run their ponzi scheme well past bankruptcy and the goverment
slights the workers via taxation. Reward the losers and punchish the
successful.

Take Ally, in reality, GMAC Government Bank, branch of the government
just like Fannie and Freddie. Another bankrupt and corrupt corporation
run by the government. Ally even advertises in a way to attempt hiding
the fact it is GMAC with a dysfunctional credit rating.

I will say this, the Chinese are beating the USA because they are not as
corrupt. This keeps the cost of government more in line with what the
economics can afford. And since they are more effective for what they
spend, the US economy will shrink and the Chinese will expand. There is
a reason why corrupt nations tend to gravitate to a lowr standard of living.

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"Canuck57" wrote in message
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On 19/02/2010 11:10 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
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On 19/02/2010 2:52 AM, Jim wrote:
Canuck57 wrote:

I must admit, I agree with this guys letter.

Lib - Ever wonder the percentage of IRS agents who are lib?

Bet most are. Better than 1/2 any way.


Because they work for the government, right?

Yep. Ever work for the government? What a mess, as a consultant I was
glad I had a term engagement and could get out.


So, you worked for the government? Hard to believe, but if so, you must be a
liberal! Now that's funny!

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Nom=de=Plume

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On 20/02/2010 10:37 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 10:36:38 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
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On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 22:19:28 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
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a beef with the IRS means it's ok to kill
people. That's just sick.


I agree this guy is a terrorist, just as much as McVeigh, the shoe
bomber and the jock strap jihadist.
I also agree with Scotty that the Sea Shepards, ELF tree spikers and
ski lodge arsonists, along with abortion clinic bombers and the people
who used to burn draft centers are terrorists too.
Anyone who is willing to endanger life to promote their cause is a
terrorist.
Unfortunately that makes John Adams a terrorist too ... at least that
is what King George thought.



I find it intellectually dishonest to include Adams in with McVeigh and
others. I don't believe KG thought that at all. The revolutionaries were
viewed as traitors.

The practice of targeting british officers was seen as a violation of
the rules of war and we did do a lot of ambush shootings, again seen
as war crimes in those days.
Perhaps more on point would be the terrorist activities of the early
Zionists against the British in Palestine. Guys like Begin were
clearly terrorists in the 20th century way.

While the Sea Shepards try to disable shipping isn't what I would choose,
they are making a point that needs to be made. They are far more at risk of
dying by the hands of own actions and those of the Japanese than the
reverse.

Perhaps that is true when the SS are in their RIBs and speed boats but
when they are using the mother ship to ram a whaler, loss of life is
clearly a possibility. The ELF arsonists and tree spikers are clearly
a life threatening hazard to workers.

I am sure in the back woods of Canada there are a few who spiked trees
and were never heard from again. Dirty business. But also why I don't
support Greenpeace, in reality they are eco-terrorist business.

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On 20/02/2010 11:04 AM, nom=de=plume wrote:
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On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 13:13:44 -0500, I am Tosk
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On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 22:19:28 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
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a beef with the IRS means it's ok to kill
people. That's just sick.


I agree this guy is a terrorist, just as much as McVeigh, the shoe
bomber and the jock strap jihadist.
I also agree with Scotty that the Sea Shepards, ELF tree spikers and
ski lodge arsonists, along with abortion clinic bombers and the people
who used to burn draft centers are terrorists too.
Anyone who is willing to endanger life to promote their cause is a
terrorist.
Unfortunately that makes John Adams a terrorist too ... at least that
is what King George thought.


One could argue that John Adams killed in self defense? I am not really
familiar with his history, it's been a long time since I studied that;)

Scotty

I doubt John Adams actually killed anyone himself but he advocated the
violent overthrow of the British government in the American colonies.
In that regard he was the bin laden of that movement.


Adams had no military experience and didn't engage in war while president.
He was a lawyer and a diplomat.

But in the British eyes, a treasonous traitor.

By your logic, Osama Bin Laden didn't pull the trigger either. Has lots
of degrees including economics.

Don't get me wrong, if I saw Osama and could kill him, I would. But the
point is, one sides hero is the other sides enemy. It is relative to
your position in the field.

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On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 09:57:37 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote:

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On 19/02/2010 11:06 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
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On 19/02/2010 11:27 AM, nom=de=plume wrote:
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On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 18:12:45 -0700,
wrote:

I must admit, I agree with this guys letter. The appathetic sheep in
US
and Canada should wake up and assert economic freedom to the
governments. Make the crooked *******s in our society pay with their
lives.

Ah, Canadian al Qaeda. You're just as insane as we've come to expect.

If it's Tim McVeigh or that assholes in Kansas who thinks he was
right
in killing the abortion doctor, it's just a crime.

If a brown person does it on behalf of Allah, they're a terrorist.

There's no difference between this asshole and bin Laden apart from
the sizes of their organizations.

Good grief... Canuck thinks that a beef with the IRS means it's ok to
kill
people. That's just sick.

--
Nom=de=Plume

He said this:

"I must admit, I agree with this guys letter. The apathetic sheep in
US and Canada should wake up and assert economic freedom to the
governments. Make the crooked *******s in our society pay with their
lives. "

Do you see ANYTHING there that promotes murder?

C'mon....

He posted the who thing, which was an attempt to justify the horrific
act
he
was about to do. It's pretty easy to take a few sentences out of just
about
anything and agree with them out of context. C'mon you.

Huge difference between justifing it and understanding it.

You would be a real crappy chess player. Why is simple, you have no
empathy and cannot see the other sides stategy and actions. Doesn't
mean
you agree, just that you understand.

Ya, I know, this is beyond the capabilities of your average vermin
liberals. Usually too wrapped up in their own world to understand
others
needs for freedom an liberty. To insecure and needy in believing in
governemtn is always good and needs to be big.


It takes very little to understand it. It takes a bit more to not promote
it, which is what you're doing.

So, like our economic freedoms being ****ed away for us by others, put the
two together and ignore it? That is the answer?

No. Promote a murder, which is what you're doing. Why don't you call me a
vermin again if it makes you feel better.


I call that sticking you head up your ass. A desire to be ignorant of
reality is what lead to the depression be it economic or individual.

But lets face it, if you are say 60 in a middle class job or less, up to
your ass in debt, just lost your job, home and family - I would say that
puts you on a risk list. Because as people find the system is to a large
degree a ruse, some will hit back...


I'd say you don't have room up your ass because you're heads to big and you
have a very tight sphincter.

So, because you got some hard knocks and perhaps weren't smart as others,
you decide to "hit back." Sounds to me like you're promoting what he did.


"...you're heads to big..."

"...you weren't smart as others..."

Did you mean to say, "...your head's too big..." and "...you weren't as smart as
others..."?

Perhaps you should practice some English writing? Oh, and if you're going to
comment on the intelligence of others, clean up your own act first.

WAFJ!
--
John H

"A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul."
-- George Bernard Shaw

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On 20/02/2010 11:19 AM, nom=de=plume wrote:
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nom=de=plume wrote:
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On 19/02/2010 6:25 PM, John H wrote:
On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 22:19:28 -0800,
wrote:

wrote in message
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On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 18:12:45 -0700,
wrote:

I must admit, I agree with this guys letter. The appathetic sheep
in US
and Canada should wake up and assert economic freedom to the
governments. Make the crooked *******s in our society pay with
their
lives.
Ah, Canadian al Qaeda. You're just as insane as we've come to
expect.

If it's Tim McVeigh or that assholes in Kansas who thinks he was
right
in killing the abortion doctor, it's just a crime.

If a brown person does it on behalf of Allah, they're a terrorist.

There's no difference between this asshole and bin Laden apart from
the sizes of their organizations.

Good grief... Canuck thinks that a beef with the IRS means it's ok to
kill
people. That's just sick.
Miss ninc=de=poop...where, pray tell, did Canuck say that? You seem to
be having
a rough time reading lately.

Is that a lib thing?
ninc-de-poop -- good one. Definitely is a liberal-statist.


Right! So, when you don't like what someone has to say, you make up
derogatory names to put them down. Typical from you guys.

Oh come on dear. That's mild compared to some of the things the boys would
like to call you. Be thankful we are holding back.


Don't hold back. You might wet yourself!

For you, doubtful.

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Canuck57 wrote:
On 19/02/2010 4:19 PM, HK wrote:
Tim wrote:


"I must admit, I agree with this guys letter. The apathetic sheep in
US and Canada should wake up and assert economic freedom to the
governments. Make the crooked *******s in our society pay with their
lives. "

Do you see ANYTHING there that promotes murder?

C'mon....

"Make the crooked *******s in our society pay with their
lives. "

And just what does that mean?

Just what it says. BTW, pay with their lives isn't a bullet, but 20
years in jail would be a good start for Wagoner. Say enforce SOX for
his financial mistatements.

So, it doesn't mean "Just what it says." It means something else.
The usual right-tard illogic.

Take the banks in trouble, liquify them and let the lessons be learned.

Line up senators and congress people and polygraph for bribery,
extortion, conspiracy to defraud.

Who are the crooked *******s?

To lengthly a list. Just use Wagoner, screws up costing people $100
billion in crooked bailouts. Then instead of getting a SOX SEC arrest,
he gets a $20 million taxpayer funded bailiut of his own, an Obama
Harvard almater buddy.

Continued scattershot wackoism.

Take underfunded pensions and the screwings going on there.

The 67 year-old IRS worker and his family?

67? Hell, he would have long been retired. But a casualty yes.

So you're the death panel now too.
Easy to see why the right-tards were all death-panel-happy recently.
It's in their blood.

Give it some thought.

Have already. Liberty comes with the willingness to fight for it.

What's your fighting background?
Tussling with your pants to get them on?

Then pick your *******s.
I'm going feeeeeshing.

What for? (Serious!) Groopers, bass?? Good idea.

Loopyfish. They can only turn right, so you need a good swivel.

A bad day fishing is better than a good day t work.

You don't expect anybody to believe you actually know anything about
fishing, do you? That's crazy. Oh, wait....

Canuck57 - Wishes he knew how to fly and had a plane and some guts. Oh
well. There's always the next life.

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On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 09:57:37 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
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On 19/02/2010 11:06 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
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On 19/02/2010 11:27 AM, nom=de=plume wrote:
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On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 18:12:45 -0700,
wrote:

I must admit, I agree with this guys letter. The appathetic sheep
in
US
and Canada should wake up and assert economic freedom to the
governments. Make the crooked *******s in our society pay with
their
lives.

Ah, Canadian al Qaeda. You're just as insane as we've come to
expect.

If it's Tim McVeigh or that assholes in Kansas who thinks he was
right
in killing the abortion doctor, it's just a crime.

If a brown person does it on behalf of Allah, they're a terrorist.

There's no difference between this asshole and bin Laden apart from
the sizes of their organizations.

Good grief... Canuck thinks that a beef with the IRS means it's ok
to
kill
people. That's just sick.

--
Nom=de=Plume

He said this:

"I must admit, I agree with this guys letter. The apathetic sheep
in
US and Canada should wake up and assert economic freedom to the
governments. Make the crooked *******s in our society pay with
their
lives. "

Do you see ANYTHING there that promotes murder?

C'mon....

He posted the who thing, which was an attempt to justify the horrific
act
he
was about to do. It's pretty easy to take a few sentences out of just
about
anything and agree with them out of context. C'mon you.

Huge difference between justifing it and understanding it.

You would be a real crappy chess player. Why is simple, you have no
empathy and cannot see the other sides stategy and actions. Doesn't
mean
you agree, just that you understand.

Ya, I know, this is beyond the capabilities of your average vermin
liberals. Usually too wrapped up in their own world to understand
others
needs for freedom an liberty. To insecure and needy in believing in
governemtn is always good and needs to be big.


It takes very little to understand it. It takes a bit more to not
promote
it, which is what you're doing.

So, like our economic freedoms being ****ed away for us by others, put
the
two together and ignore it? That is the answer?

No. Promote a murder, which is what you're doing. Why don't you call me a
vermin again if it makes you feel better.


I call that sticking you head up your ass. A desire to be ignorant of
reality is what lead to the depression be it economic or individual.

But lets face it, if you are say 60 in a middle class job or less, up to
your ass in debt, just lost your job, home and family - I would say that
puts you on a risk list. Because as people find the system is to a
large
degree a ruse, some will hit back...


I'd say you don't have room up your ass because you're heads to big and
you
have a very tight sphincter.

So, because you got some hard knocks and perhaps weren't smart as others,
you decide to "hit back." Sounds to me like you're promoting what he did.


"...you're heads to big..."

"...you weren't smart as others..."

Did you mean to say, "...your head's too big..." and "...you weren't as
smart as
others..."?

Perhaps you should practice some English writing? Oh, and if you're going
to
comment on the intelligence of others, clean up your own act first.

WAFJ!
--
John H

"A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the
support of Paul."
-- George Bernard Shaw


Perhaps you should grow up or get some growth hormone injections.

--
Nom=de=Plume