On Feb 8, 11:34*am, Tim wrote:
On Feb 7, 6:00*pm, Frogwatch wrote:

Yes, sailing is fun but for getting anywhere it is really slow.
Seriously, only 50 miles in a 10 hour day is slow. *After this cruise,
I may try cruising some other way. *Maybe I'll build a larger Tolman
for cruising. *That way, I will never pay slip fees either. *I have
found that fuel cost is a small part of the cost of boat ownership and
with a Tolman getting 6 mpg and able to go 30 mph, cruising becomes
practical. *She won't cross oceans but would get to the Bahamas and
Dry Tortugas.

When my dad was headed for the phillippenes in WW2, he said that he
and and several compaies were loaded onto an old Dutch steam vessel
that had been converted over to a troop transport which was contracted
to th US govtl

. The only ventilation was provided by those huge horns on deck and
salt water showers with berths stacked 8 high down in the hold.
Blubbering across the south Pacific at 3-5 kt, he said it was the
sorriest time of his life. It stunk *so bad down in the hold courtesy
of all the puke and pee, that most of the time they slept on deck when
they could.

*Now that would be Slo-o-o-o-o-ow!

The Tolman Jumbo has a transom deadrise of 14 degrees and much greater
amidships. My Standard Tolman has an 8 degree deadrise at the transom
and 14 amidships so i am not sure where it should \be counted.
However, if you go to the FishyFish Tolman site, you will find
accounts of Tolman voyages in the Alaskan waters in breaking seas over
20'. These were on more enclosed versions than my center console
Standard. They also had large scuppers.
BTW, Tolman has an interesting idea for the scuppers so they will
drain but not take in water shown on:.
http://woodenboatblog.com/taxonomy/term/1
Unfortunately it looks like hell but they can be removed when not
underway.

On Feb 8, 10:48*am, Frogwatch wrote:
On Feb 8, 11:34*am, Tim wrote:





On Feb 7, 6:00*pm, Frogwatch wrote:

Yes, sailing is fun but for getting anywhere it is really slow.
Seriously, only 50 miles in a 10 hour day is slow. *After this cruise,
I may try cruising some other way. *Maybe I'll build a larger Tolman
for cruising. *That way, I will never pay slip fees either. *I have
found that fuel cost is a small part of the cost of boat ownership and
with a Tolman getting 6 mpg and able to go 30 mph, cruising becomes
practical. *She won't cross oceans but would get to the Bahamas and
Dry Tortugas.

When my dad was headed for the phillippenes in WW2, he said that he
and and several compaies were loaded onto an old Dutch steam vessel
that had been converted over to a troop transport which was contracted
to th US govtl

. The only ventilation was provided by those huge horns on deck and
salt water showers with berths stacked 8 high down in the hold.
Blubbering across the south Pacific at 3-5 kt, he said it was the
sorriest time of his life. It stunk *so bad down in the hold courtesy
of all the puke and pee, that most of the time they slept on deck when
they could.

*Now that would be Slo-o-o-o-o-ow!

The Tolman Jumbo has a transom deadrise of 14 degrees and much greater
amidships. *My Standard Tolman has an 8 degree deadrise at the transom
and 14 amidships so i am not sure where it should \be counted.
However, if you go to the FishyFish Tolman site, you will find
accounts of Tolman voyages in the Alaskan waters in breaking seas over
20'. *These were on more enclosed versions than my center console
Standard. *They also had large scuppers.
BTW, Tolman has an interesting idea for the scuppers so they will
drain but not take in water shown on:.http://woodenboatblog.com/taxonomy/term/1
Unfortunately it looks like hell but they can be removed when not
underway.- Hide quoted text -

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I dont't think they look that bad and leavign them on at dock might be
OK as long as they arn'tdock height to get smashed. Do they have one
pointed forward and one back?