On 28/01/2010 8:49 AM, Frogwatch wrote:

From the State of the Union Speech, ""We will double our exports over
the next five years,".

Obama is either arrogant or he is planning on all the money creating
hyperinflation due to currency devaluation. It will make American labor
cheap and costs high.

Like I have said all along, it is the governments plan to devalue the
dollar. Nothing more than Obama would like but to see the USD 1/2 its
value over night.

About the only way exports will go up, and it will not last.

Remember, "Union man, we'll work out a five year plan. Cuz we're all
brothers to our union man,

Think about the union farce, how many union people got laid off. LMAO.
They killed the golden goose.

"And we will nationalize the wealthy companies, And all the directors
will be answerable to me, ..........You better run you better hide and
lock your doors and stay inside, cuz here comes Flash"

Nothing like a good five year plan to satisfy the proles.

Begining to sound like Chaves.

Obama Chevez Bin Ladden. Big talk leading to subversion of the people.

On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 16:22:44 -0700, Canuck57
wrote:

On 28/01/2010 8:49 AM, Frogwatch wrote:

From the State of the Union Speech, ""We will double our exports over
the next five years,".

Obama is either arrogant or he is planning on all the money creating
hyperinflation due to currency devaluation. It will make American labor
cheap and costs high.

Like I have said all along, it is the governments plan to devalue the
dollar. Nothing more than Obama would like but to see the USD 1/2 its
value over night.

guess the crybaby thinks obama's been pres for 8 years. the dollar's
collapse was well underway when the frat punk bush was pres.


About the only way exports will go up, and it will not last.

Remember, "Union man, we'll work out a five year plan. Cuz we're all
brothers to our union man,

Think about the union farce, how many union people got laid off. LMAO.
They killed the golden goose.

had zip to do with unions. manufacturing is dying in the US and there
are no unions.


"And we will nationalize the wealthy companies, And all the directors
will be answerable to me, ..........You better run you better hide and
lock your doors and stay inside, cuz here comes Flash"

Nothing like a good five year plan to satisfy the proles.

Begining to sound like Chaves.

Obama Chevez Bin Ladden. Big talk leading to subversion of the people.

the idiot crybaby can't understand facts

On 29-Jan-2010, Canuck57 wrote:

Like I have said all along, it is the governments plan to devalue the
dollar. Nothing more than Obama would like but to see the USD 1/2 its
value over night.

About the only way exports will go up, and it will not last.

Agree entirely about the upcoming devaluation, likely
involuntarily.............

BUT, the only way exports will go up is when "Americans" stop sending their
money overseas - it would be an economic pressure for the Asians to accept
products from North America. They currently do not. The scum you've elected
do not "get it," can't do anything about it (although they caused the
debacle) and shouldn't. When U.S. wages are equalized with 3rd world
countries, trade would be balanced - or, much better in practice, made
"fair" via the buying practices of the "American" ignoramuses. This won't
happen, either - fat happy and stupid rules the day.

"Steve" wrote in message
...

On 29-Jan-2010, Canuck57 wrote:

Like I have said all along, it is the governments plan to devalue the
dollar. Nothing more than Obama would like but to see the USD 1/2 its
value over night.

About the only way exports will go up, and it will not last.

Agree entirely about the upcoming devaluation, likely
involuntarily.............

BUT, the only way exports will go up is when "Americans" stop sending
their
money overseas - it would be an economic pressure for the Asians to accept
products from North America. They currently do not. The scum you've
elected
do not "get it," can't do anything about it (although they caused the
debacle) and shouldn't. When U.S. wages are equalized with 3rd world
countries, trade would be balanced - or, much better in practice, made
"fair" via the buying practices of the "American" ignoramuses. This won't
happen, either - fat happy and stupid rules the day.


Huh? US exports have been up since 2007. As the dollar falls, exports tend
to rise and tourism increases domestically.

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On 2/6/10 1:37 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
...

On 29-Jan-2010, wrote:

Like I have said all along, it is the governments plan to devalue the
dollar. Nothing more than Obama would like but to see the USD 1/2 its
value over night.

About the only way exports will go up, and it will not last.

Agree entirely about the upcoming devaluation, likely
involuntarily.............

BUT, the only way exports will go up is when "Americans" stop sending
their
money overseas - it would be an economic pressure for the Asians to accept
products from North America. They currently do not. The scum you've
elected
do not "get it," can't do anything about it (although they caused the
debacle) and shouldn't. When U.S. wages are equalized with 3rd world
countries, trade would be balanced - or, much better in practice, made
"fair" via the buying practices of the "American" ignoramuses. This won't
happen, either - fat happy and stupid rules the day.


Huh? US exports have been up since 2007. As the dollar falls, exports tend
to rise and tourism increases domestically.


These rightie tea-baggers are not connected to reality.

On 6-Feb-2010, Harry wrote:

When U.S. wages are equalized with 3rd world
countries, trade would be balanced - or, much better in practice, made
"fair" via the buying practices of the "American" ignoramuses. This
won't
happen, either - fat happy and stupid rules the day.


Huh? US exports have been up since 2007. As the dollar falls, exports
tend
to rise and tourism increases domestically.


These rightie tea-baggers are not connected to reality.

Exports ARE up, and disproportionately, imports - the "balance" is worsening
and has been for 20 years - it's not a creation of the idiots Obama, Bush or
even Clinton. It goes back to the mid 70's.

The exports from North America are to an increasing degree raw materials,
e.g., iron ore, coal, wood, raw materials that are typical to the exports of
any 3rd world country or colony centuries ago. Ships deliver manufacture red
products to North America and return with raw materials for production
elsewhere.

Morons: This is not a "right wing" or "leftist bedwetter" subject - it's
about 4th grade economics, even in the U.S. government "educational system."
Multiple levels of production produce wealth - countries that ship raw
materials to productive countries are exactly the same economic exchange as
an African colony shipping raw rubber to the UK to produce tires 75 years
ago. The people in the colony live in the bushes, the productive nations
live at a much higher levels. Your wages are decreasing and will continue
to, until equilibrium is achieved with Southeast Asia.

Example: General Motors was the largest company and largest employer (with
extreme multiple-levels of production and with thousands of suppliers) 40
years ago, with the highest wages worldwide and a burgeoning middle (high
middle) class. Now that same position is held by Walmart, with minimal wages
and the overall population squealing for handouts. Get it?

I didn't think you would.

Get rid of the "left verses right" stupidity and focus on the basics. You
are myrmidons led by the nose, by corrupt political syndicates. How
lardasses can cruise around in Asian vehicles and load them with overpriced
Chinese products while bitching about jobs makes me laugh.

In 2nd and 3rd world countries, little kids don't know they're poor - they
are happy. Your kids will be in the same boat, likely unloading the boats
from countries that are doing what the U.S. and Canada did 50 years ago.

It's time for you to go beyond being a shill for your favorite political
syndicate and quit bitching about what what YOU have created.

"Steve" wrote in message
...

On 6-Feb-2010, Harry wrote:

When U.S. wages are equalized with 3rd world
countries, trade would be balanced - or, much better in practice, made
"fair" via the buying practices of the "American" ignoramuses. This
won't
happen, either - fat happy and stupid rules the day.


Huh? US exports have been up since 2007. As the dollar falls, exports
tend
to rise and tourism increases domestically.


These rightie tea-baggers are not connected to reality.

Exports ARE up, and disproportionately, imports - the "balance" is
worsening
and has been for 20 years - it's not a creation of the idiots Obama, Bush
or
even Clinton. It goes back to the mid 70's.

If you want to create jobs, especially in the short term, exports are a good
thing. Don't forget the economy grew by 6%.

The exports from North America are to an increasing degree raw materials,
e.g., iron ore, coal, wood, raw materials that are typical to the exports
of
any 3rd world country or colony centuries ago. Ships deliver manufacture
red
products to North America and return with raw materials for production
elsewhere.

This means nothing in the short term. The point is to increase jobs. You're
talking about trade deficits, which is a different thing.

Morons: This is not a "right wing" or "leftist bedwetter" subject - it's
about 4th grade economics, even in the U.S. government "educational
system."
Multiple levels of production produce wealth - countries that ship raw
materials to productive countries are exactly the same economic exchange
as
an African colony shipping raw rubber to the UK to produce tires 75 years
ago. The people in the colony live in the bushes, the productive nations
live at a much higher levels. Your wages are decreasing and will continue
to, until equilibrium is achieved with Southeast Asia.

Again, nothing to do with jobs in the short term.

Example: General Motors was the largest company and largest employer (with
extreme multiple-levels of production and with thousands of suppliers) 40
years ago, with the highest wages worldwide and a burgeoning middle (high
middle) class. Now that same position is held by Walmart, with minimal
wages
and the overall population squealing for handouts. Get it?

Get it... GM failed as a company. Wal-Mart didn't. They're in two different
markets. Not much of an example.


I didn't think you would.

First step, you need to think. You've missed that step.


Get rid of the "left verses right" stupidity and focus on the basics. You
are myrmidons led by the nose, by corrupt political syndicates. How
lardasses can cruise around in Asian vehicles and load them with
overpriced
Chinese products while bitching about jobs makes me laugh.

Good idea. You should go for that. I'm sure you laugh at lots of things.
Like...

In 2nd and 3rd world countries, little kids don't know they're poor - they
are happy. Your kids will be in the same boat, likely unloading the boats
from countries that are doing what the U.S. and Canada did 50 years ago.

Child labor... sure is funny isn't it. I'm sure they really enjoy working
12+ hours a day in dangerous surroundings.

It's time for you to go beyond being a shill for your favorite political
syndicate and quit bitching about what what YOU have created.

Poor baby! Stop watching Faux News.

--
Nom=de=Plume

nom=de=plume wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message
...
On 6-Feb-2010, Harry wrote:

When U.S. wages are equalized with 3rd world
countries, trade would be balanced - or, much better in practice, made
"fair" via the buying practices of the "American" ignoramuses. This
won't
happen, either - fat happy and stupid rules the day.

Huh? US exports have been up since 2007. As the dollar falls, exports
tend
to rise and tourism increases domestically.

These rightie tea-baggers are not connected to reality.
Exports ARE up, and disproportionately, imports - the "balance" is
worsening
and has been for 20 years - it's not a creation of the idiots Obama, Bush
or
even Clinton. It goes back to the mid 70's.

If you want to create jobs, especially in the short term, exports are a good
thing. Don't forget the economy grew by 6%.

Right. You sound like Alan Greenspan. And as credible.

The exports from North America are to an increasing degree raw materials,
e.g., iron ore, coal, wood, raw materials that are typical to the exports
of
any 3rd world country or colony centuries ago. Ships deliver manufacture
red
products to North America and return with raw materials for production
elsewhere.

This means nothing in the short term. The point is to increase jobs. You're
talking about trade deficits, which is a different thing.

Right. Other countries produce our goods, by working on jobs we don't
have, which creates a big part of the trade deficit.
That's why jobs and trade deficits are unrelated.
C'mon now, sure you're not spoofing Alan Greenspan?

Morons: This is not a "right wing" or "leftist bedwetter" subject - it's
about 4th grade economics, even in the U.S. government "educational
system."
Multiple levels of production produce wealth - countries that ship raw
materials to productive countries are exactly the same economic exchange
as
an African colony shipping raw rubber to the UK to produce tires 75 years
ago. The people in the colony live in the bushes, the productive nations
live at a much higher levels. Your wages are decreasing and will continue
to, until equilibrium is achieved with Southeast Asia.

Again, nothing to do with jobs in the short term.

Right. Stick your head in the sand. Real economics are pretty scary.

Example: General Motors was the largest company and largest employer (with
extreme multiple-levels of production and with thousands of suppliers) 40
years ago, with the highest wages worldwide and a burgeoning middle (high
middle) class. Now that same position is held by Walmart, with minimal
wages
and the overall population squealing for handouts. Get it?

Get it... GM failed as a company. Wal-Mart didn't. They're in two different
markets. Not much of an example.

I didn't think you would.

And of course you also get that GM is good jobs and production of real
goods, while Walmart is about bad jobs and consumption of foreign goods.

First step, you need to think. You've missed that step.

People who have worked productively in the "real" economy don't even
have to "think" about this sort of thing.

Get rid of the "left verses right" stupidity and focus on the basics. You
are myrmidons led by the nose, by corrupt political syndicates. How
lardasses can cruise around in Asian vehicles and load them with
overpriced
Chinese products while bitching about jobs makes me laugh.

Good idea. You should go for that. I'm sure you laugh at lots of things.
Like...

In 2nd and 3rd world countries, little kids don't know they're poor - they
are happy. Your kids will be in the same boat, likely unloading the boats
from countries that are doing what the U.S. and Canada did 50 years ago.

Child labor... sure is funny isn't it. I'm sure they really enjoy working
12+ hours a day in dangerous surroundings.

I doubt he wishes it on America. But you probably have no problem as a
liberal uber-consumer supporting the labor practices that make it possible.
And as a good liberal, what's good for the 3rd world is good for us, right?

It's time for you to go beyond being a shill for your favorite political
syndicate and quit bitching about what what YOU have created.

Poor baby! Stop watching Faux News.

Hardly Fox news-like opinions.
But he's a union thug, which means commie, so his opinions are as
worthless as your limousine liberal opinions.

Sarah in 2012!
Don't Let Dem Anti-feminism Sway You!

On 7-Feb-2010, Jim wrote:

It's time for you to go beyond being a shill for your favorite
political
syndicate and quit bitching about what YOU have created.

Poor baby! Stop watching Faux News.

Hardly Fox news-like opinions.
But he's a union thug, which means commie, so his opinions are as
worthless as your limousine liberal opinions.

Sarah in 2012!
Don't Let Dem Anti-feminism Sway You!

Union thug??? I'm proud to have personally beat Jimmy Hoffa junior into the
ground in the early 80's when he was a business punk for local 299. Legally,
I meant, not violently.

Unions are government endorsed scams that get a percentage of the cattle's
earnings for nothing.

Sarah is cute, energetic, but inevitably a bimbo for being willing to leave
God's country to leave near, and work with, vermin.

Sorry my response was so late - I was overseas working on expanding ways to
export inferior, overpriced merchandise to you loons.

On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 22:21:42 GMT, "Steve" wrote:


On 7-Feb-2010, Jim wrote:

It's time for you to go beyond being a shill for your favorite
political
syndicate and quit bitching about what YOU have created.

Poor baby! Stop watching Faux News.

Hardly Fox news-like opinions.
But he's a union thug, which means commie, so his opinions are as
worthless as your limousine liberal opinions.

Sarah in 2012!
Don't Let Dem Anti-feminism Sway You!

Union thug??? I'm proud to have personally beat Jimmy Hoffa junior into the
ground in the early 80's when he was a business punk for local 299. Legally,
I meant, not violently.

Unions are government endorsed scams that get a percentage of the cattle's
earnings for nothing.

Sarah is cute, energetic, but inevitably a bimbo for being willing to leave
God's country to leave near, and work with, vermin.

Sorry my response was so late - I was overseas working on expanding ways to
export inferior, overpriced merchandise to you loons.

Speaking of Sarah, here's what had the liberals in a tizzy. This is Sarah's
'teleprompter' that had CNN going ape**** for hours on end.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2802/...fdb838b3_o.jpg
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John H