We keep hearing complaints that the US military is hogging the main airport
with its' one runway for their own purposes (flying in soldiers) rather than
letting all the relief planes arrive. Saw a report tonight of a makeshift
hospital, a couple hundred feet from the airport, sewing a couple of kids up
without anesthetic or other medical supplies.
Might be time for the Americans to go out and play soldier while someone
else runs the airport.
The Haitian people need all manner of medical supplies today...not next
week.

Don White wrote:
We keep hearing complaints that the US military is hogging the main airport
with its' one runway for their own purposes (flying in soldiers) rather than
letting all the relief planes arrive. Saw a report tonight of a makeshift
hospital, a couple hundred feet from the airport, sewing a couple of kids up
without anesthetic or other medical supplies.
Might be time for the Americans to go out and play soldier while someone
else runs the airport.
The Haitian people need all manner of medical supplies today...not next
week.




Full employment for the military?

"Harry" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
We keep hearing complaints that the US military is hogging the main
airport with its' one runway for their own purposes (flying in soldiers)
rather than letting all the relief planes arrive. Saw a report tonight
of a makeshift hospital, a couple hundred feet from the airport, sewing a
couple of kids up without anesthetic or other medical supplies.
Might be time for the Americans to go out and play soldier while someone
else runs the airport.
The Haitian people need all manner of medical supplies today...not next
week.


Full employment for the military?

Might be.
The French and Doctors Without Borders were also complaining about the big
bottleneck and the slow pace of getting supplies out where they're needed.

Don White wrote:
"Harry" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
We keep hearing complaints that the US military is hogging the main
airport with its' one runway for their own purposes (flying in soldiers)
rather than letting all the relief planes arrive. Saw a report tonight
of a makeshift hospital, a couple hundred feet from the airport, sewing a
couple of kids up without anesthetic or other medical supplies.
Might be time for the Americans to go out and play soldier while someone
else runs the airport.
The Haitian people need all manner of medical supplies today...not next
week.

Full employment for the military?

Might be.
The French and Doctors Without Borders were also complaining about the big
bottleneck and the slow pace of getting supplies out where they're needed.


Who would run it?
The Haitian Officials was apparently still running the airport in some
capacity.
There is only so much room to land and park.
The Chinese held up landings, at one point, while they posed their
aircraft and "Workers" for a photo op.
There was a msnbc report, I think, that they had more food than they
could distribute or store.
The Medical needs seem to be huge. It takes time. I think our People are
doing a great job.

"lil abner" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"Harry" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
We keep hearing complaints that the US military is hogging the main
airport with its' one runway for their own purposes (flying in
soldiers) rather than letting all the relief planes arrive. Saw a
report tonight of a makeshift hospital, a couple hundred feet from the
airport, sewing a couple of kids up without anesthetic or other medical
supplies.
Might be time for the Americans to go out and play soldier while
someone else runs the airport.
The Haitian people need all manner of medical supplies today...not next
week.

Full employment for the military?

Might be.
The French and Doctors Without Borders were also complaining about the
big bottleneck and the slow pace of getting supplies out where they're
needed.
Who would run it?
The Haitian Officials was apparently still running the airport in some
capacity.
There is only so much room to land and park.
The Chinese held up landings, at one point, while they posed their
aircraft and "Workers" for a photo op.
There was a msnbc report, I think, that they had more food than they could
distribute or store.
The Medical needs seem to be huge. It takes time. I think our People are
doing a great job.


I do as well, but I also think the Israelies are also. They had their
portable hospitals up and running almost immediately.

--
Nom=de=Plume

On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 22:30:59 -0500, lil abner wrote:

Don White wrote:
"Harry" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
We keep hearing complaints that the US military is hogging the main
airport with its' one runway for their own purposes (flying in soldiers)
rather than letting all the relief planes arrive. Saw a report tonight
of a makeshift hospital, a couple hundred feet from the airport, sewing a
couple of kids up without anesthetic or other medical supplies.
Might be time for the Americans to go out and play soldier while someone
else runs the airport.
The Haitian people need all manner of medical supplies today...not next
week.

Full employment for the military?

Might be.
The French and Doctors Without Borders were also complaining about the big
bottleneck and the slow pace of getting supplies out where they're needed.


Who would run it?
The Haitian Officials was apparently still running the airport in some
capacity.
There is only so much room to land and park.
The Chinese held up landings, at one point, while they posed their
aircraft and "Workers" for a photo op.
There was a msnbc report, I think, that they had more food than they
could distribute or store.
The Medical needs seem to be huge. It takes time. I think our People are
doing a great job.

If one is really interested in doing anything besides trashing the USA
(liberals, take note), one might look at the Port au Prince map and
check out the airport. When doing so, note how many highways go from
the airport to downtown. One major road, which is a log jam, as shown
on CNN yesterday.

The government in Haiti is almost non-existent. But, if I were running
things the first thing I'd do is bar all non-essential traffic from
the streets.
--
John H

All decisions are the result of binary thinking.

On Jan 21, 8:46*am, John H wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 22:30:59 -0500, lil abner wrote:
Don White wrote:
"Harry" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
We keep hearing complaints that the US military is hogging the main
airport with its' one runway for their own purposes (flying in soldiers)
rather than letting all the relief planes arrive. *Saw a report tonight
of a makeshift hospital, a couple hundred feet from the airport, sewing a
couple of kids up without anesthetic or other medical supplies.
Might be time for the Americans to go out and play soldier while someone
else runs the airport.
The Haitian people need all manner of medical supplies today...not next
week.

Full employment for the military?

Might be.
The French and Doctors Without Borders were also complaining about the big
bottleneck and the slow pace of getting supplies out where they're needed.

Who would run it?
The Haitian Officials was apparently still running the airport in some
capacity.
There is only so much room to land and park.
The Chinese held up landings, at one point, while they posed their
aircraft and "Workers" for a photo op.
There was a msnbc report, I think, that they had more food than they
could distribute or store.
The Medical needs seem to be huge. It takes time. I think our People are
doing a great job.

If one is really interested in doing anything besides trashing the USA
(liberals, take note), one might look at the Port au Prince map and
check out the airport. When doing so, note how many highways go from
the airport to downtown. One major road, which is a log jam, as shown
on CNN yesterday.

The government in Haiti is almost non-existent. But, if I were running
things the first thing I'd do is bar all non-essential traffic from
the streets.
--
John H

All decisions are the result of binary thinking.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Gee, makes you wonder just how in hell those Israelis got those state
of the art hospitals set up, doesn't it?

On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 22:57:52 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

We keep hearing complaints that the US military is hogging the main airport
with its' one runway for their own purposes (flying in soldiers) rather than
letting all the relief planes arrive. Saw a report tonight of a makeshift
hospital, a couple hundred feet from the airport, sewing a couple of kids up
without anesthetic or other medical supplies.
Might be time for the Americans to go out and play soldier while someone
else runs the airport.
The Haitian people need all manner of medical supplies today...not next
week.


ever been involved in a mass casualty event? the logistics are
incredible. the 2nd guessers and backbench warmers can sit this one
out.

On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 22:57:52 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:

We keep hearing complaints that the US military is hogging the main airport
with its' one runway for their own purposes (flying in soldiers) rather than
letting all the relief planes arrive. Saw a report tonight of a makeshift
hospital, a couple hundred feet from the airport, sewing a couple of kids up
without anesthetic or other medical supplies.
Might be time for the Americans to go out and play soldier while someone
else runs the airport.
The Haitian people need all manner of medical supplies today...not next
week.

Mass casualty events are always difficult to service properly. I
particular in these kinds of situations. One runway, no fuel depot
and no practical ATC, the only recourse you have is the military and
if there is a military that is capable of getting it on track, it's
ours - possibly your country as you have a sealift and air capacity
that's pretty good.

Air support is all well and good, but you can't transport the
quantities needed in a situation like this - it has to come by sea or
overland. And that takes time. I was involved in the St. Croix
efforts after Hurricane Hugo and can tell you from practical
experience that it's difficult without ATC. Give credit to the Devil,
KV4FZ did yoeman's work controlling air traffic until the military got
there to set up. And even then it wasn't easy. Haiti is three/four
times worse than the St. Croix.

The other part of the problem is that everybody wants to help even if
it's not needed. You have an event like this and suddenly you've got
every country in the world with an interest rushing in to "help". That
just creates chaos. I know when I was involved in urban search and
rescue with my dogs, the one thing they tell you is not to rush to the
scene - wait to be called and dispatched. The opposite happened here.

I'm not saying that mistakes happen - they do. But soldiers are
necessary to the effort for a variety of reasons from distributing aid
to providing security - and Haitians need some sort of security.

Perhaps it's time for Canadians and Americans to declare Haiti a
protectorate and get on with the reconstruction - collectively your
government and mine has an interest in maintaining order there.

On Jan 21, 8:17*am, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 22:57:52 -0400, "Don White"

wrote:
We keep hearing complaints that the US military is hogging the main airport
with its' one runway for their own purposes (flying in soldiers) rather than
letting all the relief planes arrive. *Saw a report tonight of a makeshift
hospital, a couple hundred feet from the airport, sewing a couple of kids up
without anesthetic or other medical supplies.
Might be time for the Americans to go out and play soldier while someone
else runs the airport.
The Haitian people need all manner of medical supplies today...not next
week.

Mass casualty events are always difficult to service properly. *I
particular in these kinds of situations. *One runway, no fuel depot
and no practical ATC, the only recourse you have is the military and
if there is a military that is capable of getting it on track, it's
ours - possibly your country as you have a sealift and air capacity
that's pretty good.

Air support is all well and good, but you can't transport the
quantities needed in a situation like this - it has to come by sea or
overland. And that takes time. *I was involved in the St. Croix
efforts after Hurricane Hugo and can tell you from practical
experience that it's difficult without ATC. *Give credit to the Devil,
KV4FZ did yoeman's work controlling air traffic until the military got
there to set up. *And even then it wasn't easy. *Haiti is three/four
times worse than the St. Croix.

The other part of the problem is that everybody wants to help even if
it's not needed. *You have an event like this and suddenly you've got
every country in the world with an interest rushing in to "help". That
just creates chaos. *I know when I was involved in urban search and
rescue with my dogs, the one thing they tell you is not to rush to the
scene - wait to be called and dispatched. *The opposite happened here.

I'm not saying that mistakes happen - they do. *But soldiers are
necessary to the effort for a variety of reasons from distributing aid
to providing security - and Haitians need some sort of security.

Perhaps it's time for Canadians and Americans to declare Haiti a
protectorate and get on with the reconstruction - collectively your
government and mine has an interest in maintaining order there.

Good thoughts, Tom.